Fine throw graphics out the window."GAMEPLAY" GEOW 2 >>> KZ 2

[QUOTE="Dur_Rocky"]

Gears 2 >>>>>>>>>>> Flop Zone 2 so bad gameplay wise and fun factor wise. And not to mention Gears 2 graphics are just more pleasing to the eye. Much better eye candy artistic wise.

Animal-Mother

you read how to build a time machine too? where did you get your time machine parts?

KillZone 2 is an unknown quantity in the gameplay department. It could be great.

That being said, Gears of War 2 is the technical superior to it's predecessor. And we all know Gears of War 1 was the recipient of no short list of technical and gaming awards, including Game of The Year on this site. It's also more refined and honed than Gears 1 was. That means it will be a better game than the one that score 9.6 here only 1.5 years ago.

That's tough competition, and almost unfair competition for KillZone 2 to have to be constantly compared to.

As such, it's only fair to assume Gears of War 2 to be the superior to KillZone 2 until KillZone 2 proves itself to be better.

My recommendation to Cows: Let KillZone 2 be KillZone 2. Stop comparing it to Gears of War because that 9.6 presents a bar that is probably too high for KillZone 2 to climb. It's like setting yourselves up for failure.

Remember: the only way KillZone 2 beats Gears is if it scores a 10 (since 9.7 is no longer possible).

Lemmings: Relax. The game got a 9.6. It doesn't have to prove itself to anyone. It took home all the hardware anyone cared about in 2006. And it deserved all of it. Crying about Cows wanting to compare the games makes you look desperate. That's an odd position to put yourselves in. Try taking a high road. You'll look less ridiculous.

Dreams-Visions

I agree with mostly everything except that you are pretty much saying Gears2 is a guranteed superior game to Gears1; I'm not saying it doesn't have a chance, but Gears1 did get high praises and GOTY on this site, if it is so great already, then it should be hard to improve upon it due to the bar being set so high. *Not bashing Gears2, just sayin'*

Agreed.

Sorry but corridor zone 2 with its extremely linear and cookie cutter level design and generic guns = fail.

Gears 2 will take a steamy dump on this already steaming turd of a game.

OH LOOK! An explosive barrel next to an enemy. How groundbreaking!

mephisto_11

Sorry but corridor zone 2 with its extremely linear and cookie cutter level design and generic guns = fail

wow yeah like gears 2 isn't going to be this.

If you prefer First Person Shooters : KZ2 > Gears 2.

If you prefer Third Person Shooters : Gears 2 > KZ2.

It's that simple really.

Tykain

[QUOTE="Tykain"]

If you prefer First Person Shooters : KZ2 > Gears 2.

If you prefer Third Person Shooters : Gears 2 > KZ2.

It's that simple really.

Nike_Air

Then pick one at randomly... DUH!!!

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

KillZone 2 is an unknown quantity in the gameplay department. It could be great.

That being said, Gears of War 2 is the technical superior to it's predecessor. And we all know Gears of War 1 was the recipient of no short list of technical and gaming awards, including Game of The Year on this site. It's also more refined and honed than Gears 1 was. That means it will be a better game than the one that score 9.6 here only 1.5 years ago.

That's tough competition, and almost unfair competition for KillZone 2 to have to be constantly compared to.

As such, it's only fair to assume Gears of War 2 to be the superior to KillZone 2 until KillZone 2 proves itself to be better.

My recommendation to Cows: Let KillZone 2 be KillZone 2. Stop comparing it to Gears of War because that 9.6 presents a bar that is probably too high for KillZone 2 to climb. It's like setting yourselves up for failure.

Remember: the only way KillZone 2 beats Gears is if it scores a 10 (since 9.7 is no longer possible).

Lemmings: Relax. The game got a 9.6. It doesn't have to prove itself to anyone. It took home all the hardware anyone cared about in 2006. And it deserved all of it. Crying about Cows wanting to compare the games makes you look desperate. That's an odd position to put yourselves in. Try taking a high road. You'll look less ridiculous.

nuge004

I agree with mostly everything except that you are pretty much saying Gears2 is a guranteed superior game to Gears1; I'm not saying it doesn't have a chance, but Gears1 did get high praises and GOTY on this site, if it is so great already, then it should be hard to improve upon it due to the bar being set so high. *Not bashing Gears2, just sayin'*

that's just about everything. :)

Sorry but you must really be in denial if. thats not a huge open vista then i dont know what is. Are three not enemies in the level and tanks, choppers, huge minibosses? i must be seeing something else.

gears 2 is a tactical tps. allowing a huge free roaming open world would kind of destroy the cover and tactical aspect. whereas killzone 2 is corridors only with no color, recycled enemies, and generic gameplay

mephisto_11

Any Gears fan that even mention KZ2 colors in a negative way is a f***ing hypocrite. They forget quickly how Gears was bashed for it's color scheme and how they were defending that it fits the game's theme apparently.

I know this thread isn't about graphics, but it had to be said. I'm just tired of the fanboys hypocrisy.

That said, i'm looking forward to play gears 2 more than KZ2. I'm not a huge fan of consoles FPS.

[QUOTE="ukillwegrill"]It's not corridors. I'm not saying it's a wide open savannah, but it's not as claustrophobic as many make out.WSP87

they try to make sound as if the game takes place in a closet.

Maybe my copy of the game is special...just for me, how sweet.

[QUOTE="mephisto_11"]

Sorry but you must really be in denial if. thats not a huge open vista then i dont know what is. Are three not enemies in the level and tanks, choppers, huge minibosses? i must be seeing something else.

gears 2 is a tactical tps. allowing a huge free roaming open world would kind of destroy the cover and tactical aspect. whereas killzone 2 is corridors only with no color, recycled enemies, and generic gameplay

Tykain

Any Gears fan that even mention KZ2 colors in a negative way is a f***ing hypocrite. They forget quickly how Gears was bashed for it's color scheme and how they were defending that it fits the game's theme apparently.

I know this thread isn't about graphics, but it had to be said. I'm just tired of the fanboys hypocrisy.

That said, i'm looking forward to play gears 2 more than KZ2. I'm not a huge fan of consoles FPS.

No.

People bash KillZone because it was herralded as "The Halo Killer".

Because KillZone 1 was hyped to deafening levels.

Because it failed, abjectly.

Because as soon as KillZone 2's trailer debuted, that same hype started over again.

So no...the cynicism towards KillZone has a rich, storied history. It's well-earned on these forums. And Cows attempting to compare it to a former Game of The Year after the debacle that was KillZone 1 is almost offensive.

Insult to injury is that the games aren't even in the same genre, nor are they similar in any way.

KillZone 2's comparisions should have stopped with Call of Duty 4. Even then, that's aiming the bar really high.

Cow fanboys have created a Frankenstein Monster of sorts with the KillZone series.

[QUOTE="mephisto_11"]

Sorry but you must really be in denial if. thats not a huge open vista then i dont know what is. Are three not enemies in the level and tanks, choppers, huge minibosses? i must be seeing something else.

gears 2 is a tactical tps. allowing a huge free roaming open world would kind of destroy the cover and tactical aspect. whereas killzone 2 is corridors only with no color, recycled enemies, and generic gameplay

Tykain

Any Gears fan that even mention KZ2 colors in a negative way is a f***ing hypocrite. They forget quickly how Gears was bashed for it's color scheme and how they were defending that it fits the game's theme apparently.

I know this thread isn't about graphics, but it had to be said. I'm just tired of the fanboys hypocrisy.

That said, i'm looking forward to play gears 2 more than KZ2. I'm not a huge fan of consoles FPS.

Have we seen anything other than grey in Killzone 2?

EVERYTHING is grey in killzone 2:

-The enemies

-Your allies

-The environment

-The vehicules

-The guns

Its ridiculous

Gears 1 still had more color than killzone.

[QUOTE="nuge004"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

KillZone 2 is an unknown quantity in the gameplay department. It could be great.

That being said, Gears of War 2 is the technical superior to it's predecessor. And we all know Gears of War 1 was the recipient of no short list of technical and gaming awards, including Game of The Year on this site. It's also more refined and honed than Gears 1 was. That means it will be a better game than the one that score 9.6 here only 1.5 years ago.

That's tough competition, and almost unfair competition for KillZone 2 to have to be constantly compared to.

As such, it's only fair to assume Gears of War 2 to be the superior to KillZone 2 until KillZone 2 proves itself to be better.

My recommendation to Cows: Let KillZone 2 be KillZone 2. Stop comparing it to Gears of War because that 9.6 presents a bar that is probably too high for KillZone 2 to climb. It's like setting yourselves up for failure.

Remember: the only way KillZone 2 beats Gears is if it scores a 10 (since 9.7 is no longer possible).

Lemmings: Relax. The game got a 9.6. It doesn't have to prove itself to anyone. It took home all the hardware anyone cared about in 2006. And it deserved all of it. Crying about Cows wanting to compare the games makes you look desperate. That's an odd position to put yourselves in. Try taking a high road. You'll look less ridiculous.

Dreams-Visions

I agree with mostly everything except that you are pretty much saying Gears2 is a guranteed superior game to Gears1; I'm not saying it doesn't have a chance, but Gears1 did get high praises and GOTY on this site, if it is so great already, then it should be hard to improve upon it due to the bar being set so high. *Not bashing Gears2, just sayin'*

that's just about everything. :)

We'll have to see then, bu you probably know more on it than I do, don't have a 360, only ps3/wii, so can't judge it for myself when it does come out.

Can't judge what I haven't played, that's my motto.

[QUOTE="Tykain"]

[QUOTE="mephisto_11"]

Sorry but you must really be in denial if. thats not a huge open vista then i dont know what is. Are three not enemies in the level and tanks, choppers, huge minibosses? i must be seeing something else.

gears 2 is a tactical tps. allowing a huge free roaming open world would kind of destroy the cover and tactical aspect. whereas killzone 2 is corridors only with no color, recycled enemies, and generic gameplay

mephisto_11

Any Gears fan that even mention KZ2 colors in a negative way is a f***ing hypocrite. They forget quickly how Gears was bashed for it's color scheme and how they were defending that it fits the game's theme apparently.

I know this thread isn't about graphics, but it had to be said. I'm just tired of the fanboys hypocrisy.

That said, i'm looking forward to play gears 2 more than KZ2. I'm not a huge fan of consoles FPS.

Have we seen anything other than grey in Killzone 2?

EVERYTHING is grey in killzone 2:

-The enemies

-Your allies

-The environment

-The vehicules

-The guns

[QUOTE="Tykain"]

[QUOTE="mephisto_11"]

Sorry but you must really be in denial if. thats not a huge open vista then i dont know what is. Are three not enemies in the level and tanks, choppers, huge minibosses? i must be seeing something else.

gears 2 is a tactical tps. allowing a huge free roaming open world would kind of destroy the cover and tactical aspect. whereas killzone 2 is corridors only with no color, recycled enemies, and generic gameplay

Dreams-Visions

Any Gears fan that even mention KZ2 colors in a negative way is a f***ing hypocrite. They forget quickly how Gears was bashed for it's color scheme and how they were defending that it fits the game's theme apparently.

I know this thread isn't about graphics, but it had to be said. I'm just tired of the fanboys hypocrisy.

That said, i'm looking forward to play gears 2 more than KZ2. I'm not a huge fan of consoles FPS.

No.

People bash KillZone because it was herralded as "The Halo Killer".

Because KillZone 1 was hyped to deafening levels.

Because it failed, abjectly.

Because as soon as KillZone 2's trailer debuted, that same hype started over again.

So no...the cynicism towards KillZone has a rich, storied history. It's well-earned on these forums. And Cows attempting to compare it to a former Game of The Year after the debacle that was KillZone 1 is almost offensive.

Insult to injury is that the games aren't even in the same genre, nor are they similar in any way.

KillZone 2's comparisions should have stopped with Call of Duty 4. Even then, that's aiming the bar really high.

Cow fanboys have created a Frankenstein Monster of sorts with the KillZone series.

So now you're gonna tell me lems never mention KZ2 colors scheme ? If i ignore the half milion posts on this forum mentioning it then maybe i'd believe that.

I don't care if people bash it because the 1st one was crap or whatever, i don't care much about the game anyways. But saying gears is the console graphics king then bash KZ2 colors scheme = hypocrisy at it's best.

[QUOTE="Tykain"]

[QUOTE="mephisto_11"]

Sorry but you must really be in denial if. thats not a huge open vista then i dont know what is. Are three not enemies in the level and tanks, choppers, huge minibosses? i must be seeing something else.

gears 2 is a tactical tps. allowing a huge free roaming open world would kind of destroy the cover and tactical aspect. whereas killzone 2 is corridors only with no color, recycled enemies, and generic gameplay

Dreams-Visions

Any Gears fan that even mention KZ2 colors in a negative way is a f***ing hypocrite. They forget quickly how Gears was bashed for it's color scheme and how they were defending that it fits the game's theme apparently.

I know this thread isn't about graphics, but it had to be said. I'm just tired of the fanboys hypocrisy.

That said, i'm looking forward to play gears 2 more than KZ2. I'm not a huge fan of consoles FPS.

No.

People bash KillZone because it was herralded as "The Halo Killer".

Because KillZone 1 was hyped to deafening levels.

Because it failed, abjectly.

Because as soon as KillZone 2's trailer debuted, that same hype started over again.

So no...the cynicism towards KillZone has a rich, storied history. It's well-earned on these forums. And Cows attempting to compare it to a former Game of The Year after the debacle that was KillZone 1 is almost offensive.

Insult to injury is that the games aren't even in the same genre, nor are they similar in any way.

KillZone 2's comparisions should have stopped with Call of Duty 4. Even then, that's aiming the bar really high.

Cow fanboys have created a Frankenstein Monster of sorts with the KillZone series.

This stems from jealousy of general Killzone 2 excitement , hope , and great graphics threads ...... they don't like the attention it gets and comparisons to Gears and Halo is the best way to knock the game if it turns out to be great in the end so they can feel good about themselves.

I find it very rare when someone says Killzone 2 is going to outscore Halo 3 or outscore Gears 2 or do this or that to one of those games ...... I see more of just excitement and interest for the game on the ps3 side of things and a lot of great graphics threads.

[QUOTE="Tykain"]

[QUOTE="mephisto_11"]

Sorry but you must really be in denial if. thats not a huge open vista then i dont know what is. Are three not enemies in the level and tanks, choppers, huge minibosses? i must be seeing something else.

gears 2 is a tactical tps. allowing a huge free roaming open world would kind of destroy the cover and tactical aspect. whereas killzone 2 is corridors only with no color, recycled enemies, and generic gameplay

mephisto_11

Any Gears fan that even mention KZ2 colors in a negative way is a f***ing hypocrite. They forget quickly how Gears was bashed for it's color scheme and how they were defending that it fits the game's theme apparently.

I know this thread isn't about graphics, but it had to be said. I'm just tired of the fanboys hypocrisy.

That said, i'm looking forward to play gears 2 more than KZ2. I'm not a huge fan of consoles FPS.

Have we seen anything other than grey in Killzone 2?

EVERYTHING is grey in killzone 2:

-The enemies

-Your allies

-The environment

-The vehicules

-The guns

Its ridiculous

Gears 1 still had more color than killzone.

So Gears can be considered the console graphics king while barely having more colors than KZ2, and we should just laugh at KZ2 colors scheme. Right, makes sense...

Thanks for proving my point.