Firmware 2.4 disappointment?

"CVG has managed to get its grubby hands on the final list of features for the hotly anticipated Firmware 2.4 update, which was yesterday rumoured to be due early next week. But that's not the case we've been told...

Update: Since our original story went live, we've received further information regarding the inclusion of trophies in the 2.4 update. As expected full 2D trophy support will be in the XMB update and there will be four types: Bronze, Silver, Gold and Platinum.

Platinum is only awarded when you have collected all other trophies in a game. Also there are no gamer points, it's all done via a levelling up system. Think Call of Duty 4 levelling up system, we reckon. Update Out

Speaking under strict conditions of anonymity, a source has told CVG that Firmware 2.4 is expected to launch in around three weeks' time. A quick look at the diary reveals that E3 is just under three weeks away. It doesn't take a genius to see that Sony's pre-E3 conference would be the perfect time to launch the Sony XMB assault.

Announcing something and making it available at the same time is the way forward, as Microsoft proved by revealing Doom isn't just coming to Xbox Live Arcade, it's on Xbox Live Arcade a few E3s ago. Apple is known for this approach too.

We've also scooped the following list of XMB features that you'll be able to access in-game. Here goes:

* Friend category
* View, send, receive messages
* Manage downloads
* Set the vibration feature of the controller
* Sign in to PlayStation Network
* Register friends
* Manage Bluetooth devices
* Terminate the game
* Music category
* Use the system BGM
* Work the system BGM operation panel
* Settings category
* Assign controllers
* View profiles
* Game category
* Set audio devices
* Use the voice changer


As previously reported the update will also allow you to play back your own tunes in-game from the XMB Music column. It's unclear whether this feature will be compatible with all games or just new titles created with more recent development tools.

The system BGM will offer functions such as Play, Stop, Previous track, Next track, Change repeat mode, Change shuffle mode, Change volume (five levels). When you stop the playback of your tunes, playback of the game music will then begin.

Sony has yet to confirm or deny any of this and won't comment on rumour and speculation. If you ask us though, this is bang on the money. Not long to wait and see..."

LINKAMAHCATION

Still no mention of things like Private chat, Cross-game invites, IM system, Changing your online status, Editing your profile, Viewing your Rep (Oh wait, PSN doesnt have rep), Setting you're game defaults etc.

Bu bu, i thought in-game XMB would have everything the in-game Guide has on XBL, and would bring PSN up to XBL standards, force M$ to drop the $50-a-year charge and ultimately cause the world to implode.

A fantastic update nonetheless, really looking forward to it and it will bring PSN functionality a lot closer to that of XBL. But can we please stop the boring old "Which is better, PSN or XBL?" and "2.40 FW confirmed, PSN bettar than XBL!" because its old, boring and false. Yes, PSN may be better value for some, it may be the better choice for some, but understand that when comparing both services for what they are, XBL IS BETTER!

How can you be dissapointed. It isnt even out yet.carlisledavid79

Because if this news story is correct, then it would be a disappointment in comparison to some of the crap ive heard cows spew out recently over how it will do this and that, and how it will be better than XBL.

ah but does the 360 have a voice changer! :PNinjaMunkey01

It has voice settings menu, yes. Not sure if it changes youre actual voice, but then the voice changer in PSN could be something as simple as volume. Maybe not.

[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]ah but does the 360 have a voice changer! :PGazzaB

It has voice settings menu, yes. Not sure if it changes youre actual voice, but then the voice changer in PSN could be something as simple as volume. Maybe not.

i think it changes the pitch of your voice.

[QUOTE="GazzaB"]

[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]ah but does the 360 have a voice changer! :PNinjaMunkey01

It has voice settings menu, yes. Not sure if it changes youre actual voice, but then the voice changer in PSN could be something as simple as volume. Maybe not.

i think it changes the pitch of your voice.

Well the original Xbox done that. I dont think the 360 does.

ah but does the 360 have a voice changer! :PNinjaMunkey01

"CVG has managed to get its grubby hands on the final list of features for the hotly anticipated Firmware 2.4 update, which was yesterday rumoured to be due early next week. But that's not the case we've been told...

Update: Since our original story went live, we've received further information regarding the inclusion of trophies in the 2.4 update. As expected full 2D trophy support will be in the XMB update and there will be four types: Bronze, Silver, Gold and Platinum.

Platinum is only awarded when you have collected all other trophies in a game. Also there are no gamer points, it's all done via a levelling up system. Think Call of Duty 4 levelling up system, we reckon. Update Out

Speaking under strict conditions of anonymity, a source has told CVG that Firmware 2.4 is expected to launch in around three weeks' time. A quick look at the diary reveals that E3 is just under three weeks away. It doesn't take a genius to see that Sony's pre-E3 conference would be the perfect time to launch the Sony XMB assault.

Announcing something and making it available at the same time is the way forward, as Microsoft proved by revealing Doom isn't just coming to Xbox Live Arcade, it's on Xbox Live Arcade a few E3s ago. Apple is known for this approach too.

We've also scooped the following list of XMB features that you'll be able to access in-game. Here goes:

* Friend category
* View, send, receive messages
* Manage downloads
* Set the vibration feature of the controller
* Sign in to PlayStation Network
* Register friends
* Manage Bluetooth devices
* Terminate the game
* Music category
* Use the system BGM
* Work the system BGM operation panel
* Settings category
* Assign controllers
* View profiles
* Game category
* Set audio devices
* Use the voice changer


As previously reported the update will also allow you to play back your own tunes in-game from the XMB Music column. It's unclear whether this feature will be compatible with all games or just new titles created with more recent development tools.

The system BGM will offer functions such as Play, Stop, Previous track, Next track, Change repeat mode, Change shuffle mode, Change volume (five levels). When you stop the playback of your tunes, playback of the game music will then begin.

Sony has yet to confirm or deny any of this and won't comment on rumour and speculation. If you ask us though, this is bang on the money. Not long to wait and see..."

LINKAMAHCATION

Still no mention of things like Private chat, Cross-game invites, IM system, Changing your online status, Editing your profile, Viewing your Rep (Oh wait, PSN doesnt have rep), Setting you're game defaults etc.

Bu bu, i thought in-game XMB would have everything the in-game Guide has on XBL, and would bring PSN up to XBL standards, force M$ to drop the $50-a-year charge and ultimately cause the world to implode.

A fantastic update nonetheless, really looking forward to it and it will bring PSN functionality a lot closer to that of XBL. But can we please stop the boring old "Which is better, PSN or XBL?" and "2.40 FW confirmed, PSN bettar than XBL!" because its old, boring and false. Yes, PSN may be better value for some, it may be the better choice for some, but understand that when comparing both services for what they are, XBL IS BETTER!

GazzaB

The above updates + keeping it a Free service = No disappointment at all !!! PSN keeps getting better and better...

* Friend category
* View, send, receive messages (This is IM)
* Manage downloads
* Set the vibration feature of the controller
* Sign in to PlayStation Network (This is your status changer)
* Register friends
* Manage Bluetooth devices
* Terminate the game
* Music category
* Use the system BGM
* Work the system BGM operation panel
* Settings category
* Assign controllers
* View profiles (Maybe you can edit profile here?)
* Game category
* Set audio devices

IM system, Changing your online status, Editing your profile, GazzaB

Don't go nitpicking just yet.

[QUOTE="GazzaB"]

* Friend category
* View, send, receive messages (This is IM)
* Manage downloads
* Set the vibration feature of the controller
* Sign in to PlayStation Network (This is your status changer)
* Register friends
* Manage Bluetooth devices
* Terminate the game
* Music category
* Use the system BGM
* Work the system BGM operation panel
* Settings category
* Assign controllers
* View profiles (Maybe you can edit profile here?)
* Game category
* Set audio devices

IM system, Changing your online status, Editing your profile, DragonFlyJ

Don't go nitpicking just yet.

That isnt IM. IM meaning an instant messanger like MSN messenger or AOL. Also theres nothing there to suggest its a status changer, like having the ability to appear offline, appear busy etc. And maybe you can edit profile, But all it says there is view profiles.

"CVG has managed to get its grubby hands on the final list of features for the hotly anticipated Firmware 2.4 update, which was yesterday rumoured to be due early next week. But that's not the case we've been told...

Update: Since our original story went live, we've received further information regarding the inclusion of trophies in the 2.4 update. As expected full 2D trophy support will be in the XMB update and there will be four types: Bronze, Silver, Gold and Platinum.

Platinum is only awarded when you have collected all other trophies in a game. Also there are no gamer points, it's all done via a levelling up system. Think Call of Duty 4 levelling up system, we reckon. Update Out

Speaking under strict conditions of anonymity, a source has told CVG that Firmware 2.4 is expected to launch in around three weeks' time. A quick look at the diary reveals that E3 is just under three weeks away. It doesn't take a genius to see that Sony's pre-E3 conference would be the perfect time to launch the Sony XMB assault.

Announcing something and making it available at the same time is the way forward, as Microsoft proved by revealing Doom isn't just coming to Xbox Live Arcade, it's on Xbox Live Arcade a few E3s ago. Apple is known for this approach too.

We've also scooped the following list of XMB features that you'll be able to access in-game. Here goes:

* Friend category
* View, send, receive messages
* Manage downloads
* Set the vibration feature of the controller
* Sign in to PlayStation Network
* Register friends
* Manage Bluetooth devices
* Terminate the game
* Music category
* Use the system BGM
* Work the system BGM operation panel
* Settings category
* Assign controllers
* View profiles
* Game category
* Set audio devices
* Use the voice changer


As previously reported the update will also allow you to play back your own tunes in-game from the XMB Music column. It's unclear whether this feature will be compatible with all games or just new titles created with more recent development tools.

The system BGM will offer functions such as Play, Stop, Previous track, Next track, Change repeat mode, Change shuffle mode, Change volume (five levels). When you stop the playback of your tunes, playback of the game music will then begin.

Sony has yet to confirm or deny any of this and won't comment on rumour and speculation. If you ask us though, this is bang on the money. Not long to wait and see..."

LINKAMAHCATION

Still no mention of things like Private chat, Cross-game invites, IM system, Changing your online status, Editing your profile, Viewing your Rep (Oh wait, PSN doesnt have rep), Setting you're game defaults etc.

Bu bu, i thought in-game XMB would have everything the in-game Guide has on XBL, and would bring PSN up to XBL standards, force M$ to drop the $50-a-year charge and ultimately cause the world to implode.

A fantastic update nonetheless, really looking forward to it and it will bring PSN functionality a lot closer to that of XBL. But can we please stop the boring old "Which is better, PSN or XBL?" and "2.40 FW confirmed, PSN bettar than XBL!" because its old, boring and false. Yes, PSN may be better value for some, it may be the better choice for some, but understand that when comparing both services for what they are, XBL IS BETTER!

GazzaB

they should include private chat. but i dont see the point in cross game invites when you can just send a message in game to a friend to tell them to play with you. changing your online status? i dont see that as useful when your playing a game. there is a profile editor but i dont think anyone would be that interested in me. lol at rep, im playing games not becoming a celebrity, although seems like a cool features it not necessary unlike most of those features. they really need private chat though, that would be amazing.

[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]ah but does the 360 have a voice changer! :PGazzaB

It has voice settings menu, yes. Not sure if it changes youre actual voice, but then the voice changer in PSN could be something as simple as volume. Maybe not.

That isnt IM. IM meaning an instant messanger like MSN messenger or AOL. Also theres nothing there to suggest its a status changer, like having the ability to appear offline, appear busy etc. And maybe you can edit profile, But all it says there is view profiles.

GazzaB

You have to admit you're grasping for straws. Those features can easily be implemented, if not, already are.

they should include private chat. but i dont see the point in cross game invites when you can just send a message in game to a friend to tell them to play with you. changing your online status? i dont see that as useful when your playing a game. there is a profile editor but i dont think anyone would be that interested in me. lol at rep, im playing games not becoming a celebrity, although seems like a cool features it not necessary unlike most of those features. they really need private chat though, that would be amazing.

Arjdagr8

Theres no point arguing over which features are useful to you and which arent. Thats subjective. Also, an invite is more than just some text asking you to play a certain game. For example if im in the dashboard and someone invites me to play COD4, if i accept the invite it will take me straight to their game lobby.

[QUOTE="GazzaB"]

That isnt IM. IM meaning an instant messanger like MSN messenger or AOL. Also theres nothing there to suggest its a status changer, like having the ability to appear offline, appear busy etc. And maybe you can edit profile, But all it says there is view profiles.

DragonFlyJ

You have to admit you're grasping for straws. Those features can easily be implemented, if not, already are.

Yeah, but its just another thing the cows overhyped. Thats all.

[QUOTE="DragonFlyJ"][QUOTE="GazzaB"]

That isnt IM. IM meaning an instant messanger like MSN messenger or AOL. Also theres nothing there to suggest its a status changer, like having the ability to appear offline, appear busy etc. And maybe you can edit profile, But all it says there is view profiles.

GazzaB

You have to admit you're grasping for straws. Those features can easily be implemented, if not, already are.

Yeah, but its just another thing the cows overhyped. Thats all.

Well, they wouldn't be cows if they didn't hype it. :wink:

lmao, I hate that voice changer!

guys sounding like girls and kids sounding like...... deep voiced kids :P

The trophy system does sound a bit half assed and it looks it based off the screens I've seen. FloWeN-UK

Agreed. I was hoping for more.

Hmm - looking at this it seems Sony will be ready to include Subscription Fees with their next update.

Believe it ! :P

Hmm - looking at this it seems Sony will be ready to include Subscription Fees with their next update.

Believe it ! :P

SecretPolice

It's possible to do these things and free. Check out PC gaming...

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Hmm - looking at this it seems Sony will be ready to include Subscription Fees with their next update.

Believe it ! :P

DragonFlyJ

It's possible to do these things and free. Check out PC gaming...

Anything else will be comparing apples & oranges so just saying.

[QUOTE="DragonFlyJ"][QUOTE="GazzaB"]

* Friend category
* View, send, receive messages (This is IM)
* Manage downloads
* Set the vibration feature of the controller
* Sign in to PlayStation Network (This is your status changer)
* Register friends
* Manage Bluetooth devices
* Terminate the game
* Music category
* Use the system BGM
* Work the system BGM operation panel
* Settings category
* Assign controllers
* View profiles (Maybe you can edit profile here?)
* Game category
* Set audio devices

IM system, Changing your online status, Editing your profile, GazzaB

Don't go nitpicking just yet.

That isnt IM. IM meaning an instant messanger like MSN messenger or AOL. Also theres nothing there to suggest its a status changer, like having the ability to appear offline, appear busy etc. And maybe you can edit profile, But all it says there is view profiles.

[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"][QUOTE="GazzaB"]

[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]ah but does the 360 have a voice changer! :PGazzaB

It has voice settings menu, yes. Not sure if it changes youre actual voice, but then the voice changer in PSN could be something as simple as volume. Maybe not.

i think it changes the pitch of your voice.

Well the original Xbox done that. I dont think the 360 does.

I have never tried it really, its needless I was only joking.

Though I might give it a go.

[QUOTE="GazzaB"][QUOTE="DragonFlyJ"][QUOTE="GazzaB"]

* Friend category
* View, send, receive messages (This is IM)
* Manage downloads
* Set the vibration feature of the controller
* Sign in to PlayStation Network (This is your status changer)
* Register friends
* Manage Bluetooth devices
* Terminate the game
* Music category
* Use the system BGM
* Work the system BGM operation panel
* Settings category
* Assign controllers
* View profiles (Maybe you can edit profile here?)
* Game category
* Set audio devices

IM system, Changing your online status, Editing your profile, The_Crucible

Don't go nitpicking just yet.

That isnt IM. IM meaning an instant messanger like MSN messenger or AOL. Also theres nothing there to suggest its a status changer, like having the ability to appear offline, appear busy etc. And maybe you can edit profile, But all it says there is view profiles.

First off, cows were claiming in-game XMB will bring PSN to XBL standards. This is just another blow. Also, thats not the same, when you're offline you cant see who else is online, what they're doing etc. With appearing offline, you can. Yes, they may be small things, but they're things PSN doesnt have. Cross game invites isnt small, ive heard a lot of cows branding that about, yet theirs no mention of it. And then theres other things i remember cows hyping like being able to access the web browser mid game to look for game guides, ive also heard cows saying how theyll be able to acces the PSN store mid-game while lems have to quit out to access marketplace.

Look, im not saying this is a bad update. It just must be a big disappointment for all those cows who hyped it up to the heavens and back. I did warn them though.

Hoi is that a dissapointment? Haha it's not.. TEH OH NOEZ NO STATUZ CHAINGERR!! :cry: ...lol wtf?Couth_

I still don't get why any cows are hyping an update :|beast667

[QUOTE="Couth_"]Hoi is that a dissapointment? Haha it's not.. TEH OH NOEZ NO STATUZ CHAINGERR!! :cry: ...lol wtf?beast667

The question is, who is disappointed? Only lemmings are disappointed with an update for cows... :lol:

[QUOTE="The_Crucible"][QUOTE="GazzaB"][QUOTE="DragonFlyJ"][QUOTE="GazzaB"]

* Friend category
* View, send, receive messages (This is IM)
* Manage downloads
* Set the vibration feature of the controller
* Sign in to PlayStation Network (This is your status changer)
* Register friends
* Manage Bluetooth devices
* Terminate the game
* Music category
* Use the system BGM
* Work the system BGM operation panel
* Settings category
* Assign controllers
* View profiles (Maybe you can edit profile here?)
* Game category
* Set audio devices

IM system, Changing your online status, Editing your profile, GazzaB

Don't go nitpicking just yet.

That isnt IM. IM meaning an instant messanger like MSN messenger or AOL. Also theres nothing there to suggest its a status changer, like having the ability to appear offline, appear busy etc. And maybe you can edit profile, But all it says there is view profiles.

First off, cows were claiming in-game XMB will bring PSN to XBL standards. This is just another blow. Also, thats not the same, when you're offline you cant see who else is online, what they're doing etc. With appearing offline, you can. Yes, they may be small things, but they're things PSN doesnt have. Cross game invites isnt small, ive heard a lot of cows branding that about, yet theirs no mention of it. And then theres other things i remember cows hyping like being able to access the web browser mid game to look for game guides, ive also heard cows saying how theyll be able to acces the PSN store mid-game while lems have to quit out to access marketplace.

Look, im not saying this is a bad update. It just must be a big disappointment for all those cows who hyped it up to the heavens and back. I did warn them though.

[QUOTE="beast667"][QUOTE="Couth_"]Hoi is that a dissapointment? Haha it's not.. TEH OH NOEZ NO STATUZ CHAINGERR!! :cry: ...lol wtf?DragonFlyJ

The question is, who is disappointed? Only lemmings are disappointed with an update for cows... :lol:

At least I can finally listen to my music in-game :D

[QUOTE="beast667"]I still don't get why any cows are hyping an update :|jack_russel

I don't think it will, still the same games, still the same people.

nice to have though, kinda like that seat-belt for kids on shopping carts. It's handy for tie'n you're kid down, but ain't gonna do a lick of good if the cart flips over.

[QUOTE="DragonFlyJ"]

[QUOTE="beast667"][QUOTE="Couth_"]Hoi is that a dissapointment? Haha it's not.. TEH OH NOEZ NO STATUZ CHAINGERR!! :cry: ...lol wtf?beast667

The question is, who is disappointed? Only lemmings are disappointed with an update for cows... :lol:

At least I can finally listen to my music in-game :D

And you base this on a unverified list? I'm not taking sides here. Just like to use logic.

I don't think it's going to be a disappointment for them because I don't think they care about it as much as you do. Whatever sony puts out they're gonna be satisfied with, even if it is a few small features off from XBL. The fact that it's free probably makes up for it in their eyes.jack_russel

True, they should be pleased with the update. But still, this is system wars. I bet cows were hoping it would match XBL so they can brag about it being free. All im saying is that if there was an official hype thread for this update, it would be a flop.

[QUOTE="beast667"][QUOTE="DragonFlyJ"]

[QUOTE="beast667"][QUOTE="Couth_"]Hoi is that a dissapointment? Haha it's not.. TEH OH NOEZ NO STATUZ CHAINGERR!! :cry: ...lol wtf?DragonFlyJ

The question is, who is disappointed? Only lemmings are disappointed with an update for cows... :lol:

At least I can finally listen to my music in-game :D

And you base this on a unverified list? I'm not taking sides here. Just like to use logic.

[QUOTE="jack_russel"][QUOTE="beast667"]I still don't get why any cows are hyping an update :|FragTycoon

I don't think it will, still the same games, still the same people.

nice to have though, kinda like that seat-belt for kids on shopping carts. It's handy for tie'n you're kid down, but ain't gonna do a lick of good if the cart flips over.

[QUOTE="beast667"][QUOTE="Couth_"]Hoi is that a dissapointment? Haha it's not.. TEH OH NOEZ NO STATUZ CHAINGERR!! :cry: ...lol wtf?DragonFlyJ

The question is, who is disappointed? Only lemmings are disappointed with an update for cows... :lol:

I'm disappointed and I own a PS3. I wanted trophies to rival Achievements and that now seems like it won't happen.

Unverified? They got a list of the final update, I would assume from Sony, or the writer of that article just pulled all of that out of his ass. Maybe something will change before the update though, who knows?beast667

"Sony has yet to confirm or deny any of this and won't comment on rumour and speculation."

[QUOTE="DragonFlyJ"]

[QUOTE="beast667"][QUOTE="Couth_"]Hoi is that a dissapointment? Haha it's not.. TEH OH NOEZ NO STATUZ CHAINGERR!! :cry: ...lol wtf?SpruceCaboose

The question is, who is disappointed? Only lemmings are disappointed with an update for cows... :lol:

I'm disappointed and I own a PS3. I wanted trophies to rival Achievements and that now seems like it won't happen.

Understood. Call your congressman!

[QUOTE="jack_russel"] I don't think it's going to be a disappointment for them because I don't think they care about it as much as you do. Whatever sony puts out they're gonna be satisfied with, even if it is a few small features off from XBL. The fact that it's free probably makes up for it in their eyes.GazzaB

True, they should be pleased with the update. But still, this is system wars. I bet cows were hoping it would match XBL so they can brag about it being free. All im saying is that if there was an official hype thread for this update, it would be a flop.

[QUOTE="beast667"] Unverified? They got a list of the final update, I would assume from Sony, or the writer of that article just pulled all of that out of his ass. Maybe something will change before the update though, who knows?DragonFlyJ

"Sony has yet to confirm or deny any of this and won't comment on rumour and speculation."

"Sony has yet to confirm or deny any of this and won't comment on rumour and speculation."

DragonFlyJ

[QUOTE="DragonFlyJ"]

[QUOTE="beast667"] Unverified? They got a list of the final update, I would assume from Sony, or the writer of that article just pulled all of that out of his ass. Maybe something will change before the update though, who knows?jack_russel

"Sony has yet to confirm or deny any of this and won't comment on rumour and speculation."

I'm not your dude, buddy.

[QUOTE="GazzaB"]

That isnt IM. IM meaning an instant messanger like MSN messenger or AOL. Also theres nothing there to suggest its a status changer, like having the ability to appear offline, appear busy etc. And maybe you can edit profile, But all it says there is view profiles.

DragonFlyJ

You have to admit you're grasping for straws. Those features can easily be implemented, if not, already are.

[QUOTE="GazzaB"]

[QUOTE="jack_russel"] I don't think it's going to be a disappointment for them because I don't think they care about it as much as you do. Whatever sony puts out they're gonna be satisfied with, even if it is a few small features off from XBL. The fact that it's free probably makes up for it in their eyes.jack_russel

True, they should be pleased with the update. But still, this is system wars. I bet cows were hoping it would match XBL so they can brag about it being free. All im saying is that if there was an official hype thread for this update, it would be a flop.

I think you're missing the point. Example: Mass Effect gets 8.5, it flops. Is it still a good game? Yes. PSN 2.40 update is released, but is just below cows expectations. Is it still a good update? Yes, but nonetheless, its a disappointment

Understood. Call your congressman!

DragonFlyJ

I tried. His staff manager told me to come here.

[QUOTE="DragonFlyJ"]

[QUOTE="beast667"][QUOTE="Couth_"]Hoi is that a dissapointment? Haha it's not.. TEH OH NOEZ NO STATUZ CHAINGERR!! :cry: ...lol wtf?SpruceCaboose

The question is, who is disappointed? Only lemmings are disappointed with an update for cows... :lol:

I'm disappointed and I own a PS3. I wanted trophies to rival Achievements and that now seems like it won't happen.