Firmware 2.4 rumour. Trophies and in-game XMB? (JUNE)

Well, it seems it may be coming next month. At long ****ing last.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=189052

About time as well :)

This rumor is hardly backed up by any facts. Don't other games already have trophy support? Don't you need Home to view trophies?TMontana1004

According to the article there's 2d trophies as well, viewable from XMB.

took em long enough, and i still wont believe it till i see it on my ps3. when was i suppose to be on home again..

Is this the update that everyone has been holding their breath for? The one the will make PSN just as good as XBL if not better since it's free. I thought it was just a bedtime story fan boys were told so they can go to bed without thinking they made a mistake purchasing a PS3.player_leo

Beause we all know that achievements are the reason we play games :roll:

It's gonna get really interesting to see how people justify XBL cost in months to come.

"teh XBL powaaa" :P

[QUOTE="TMontana1004"]This rumor is hardly backed up by any facts. Don't other games already have trophy support? Don't you need Home to view trophies?thrones

According to the article there's 2d trophies as well, viewable from XMB.

Doesn't seem like anyone said it yet so i'm going to.

"TEH COPYCATZOR..SONY HAD TO COPY XBL AND THE ACHIEVEMENT SYSTEM COWS LOLZOR"

Lets hope, I NEED my own music in game.Stonin

You typed this on a computer. Open Windows Media Player, iTunes or any other similar program.

Beause we all know that achievements are the reason we play games :roll:

leejohnson7

Well you probably missed it but since the introduction of achievements, playing games for the purpose of enjoyment died last gen. Now, if there are no achievements, the game is not worth playing.

Hasn't there been a rumor for this every month?

January: in game XMB in February!

February: in game XMB in March!

March: in game XMB in....

Unfortunately the update won't have custom soundtracks so I could care less until they actually do that first place, multiplayer is made better by custom soundtracks.

This rumor is hardly backed up by any facts. Don't other games already have trophy support? Don't you need Home to view trophies?

TMontana1004

Supposedy they're '2D Trophies' similar to achievments. Not the 3D virtual trophies in Home.

Best thing is PSN is FREE!!! And getting closer to XBL equivalent. Good news, thanks.

[QUOTE="Stonin"]Lets hope, I NEED my own music in game.PRKiNG45

You typed this on a computer. Open Windows Media Player, iTunes or any other similar program.

Beause we all know that achievements are the reason we play games :roll:

leejohnson7

Well you probably missed it but since the introduction of achievements, playing games for the purpose of enjoyment died last gen. Now, if there are no achievements, the game is not worth playing.

lol what the hell does me typing on a computer have to do with custom soundtracks while playing my PS3? Are you suggesting I run a PC and control my music from that while turning off the in game music on every game on the PS3? I'd just play my 360 instead of going to that length.

[QUOTE="PRKiNG45"]

[QUOTE="Stonin"]Lets hope, I NEED my own music in game.Stonin

You typed this on a computer. Open Windows Media Player, iTunes or any other similar program.

Beause we all know that achievements are the reason we play games :roll:

leejohnson7

Well you probably missed it but since the introduction of achievements, playing games for the purpose of enjoyment died last gen. Now, if there are no achievements, the game is not worth playing.

lol what the hell does me typing on a computer have to do with custom soundtracks while playing my PS3? Are you suggesting I run a PC and control my music from that while turning off the in game music on every game on the PS3? I'd just play my 360 instead of going to that length.

Sorry, I did not know you were that lazy. If I did, I wouldn't have made such a foolish suggestion.

Sorry folks, don't hold your breath. We have heard these rumors for almost a year now. I will believe when I see it and as of now I doubt that will be next month.

AR

Sony Home:

Announced a year ago.

Delayed...

One year later...LMAO.

Best thing is PSN is FREE!!! And getting closer to XBL equivalent. Good news, thanks.

patriots7672

Freebies kick ASS!

Awesome. I wonder if the old games will get update patches to support trophies.carljohnson3456

One would hope so, but I doubt it. Achievements are better when they are implemented to make you play the game in a way you wouldn't normally do. If it's just "kill 50 enemies with the crossbow" they can keep it. Those kind of achievements are worthless. Look at Crackdowns list of achievements for a look at how achievements are done the right way. Or Mass Effect for achievement bonuses. tacked on trophies would just blow.

Another problem is that achievements are a Microsoft mandate. They have to be in every game in some form.There are no xbox 360 games without them, even the arcade titles. PSN trophies won't be, so I really don't see developers doing the extra work if they don't have to. They have enough trouble getting the games out the door.

[QUOTE="TMontana1004"]This rumor is hardly backed up by any facts. Don't other games already have trophy support? Don't you need Home to view trophies?thrones

According to the article there's 2d trophies as well, viewable from XMB.

you mean achivements with a different name?, oh the irony on those cows who mocked having acheivments.

Another problem is that achievements are a Microsoft mandate. They have to be in every game in some form.There are no xbox 360 games without them, even the arcade titles. PSN trophies won't be, so I really don't see developers doing the extra work if they don't have to. They have enough trouble getting the games out the door.heretrix

Well apparently achievements add to the value of a game, so surely devs will want to add them in. I cant imagine them being that hard to implement either. I wonder if Sony will make devs use them. If big guns like Konami are pushing Sony to use them, that's a good sign that developers actually want them to. Hopefully these trophies will be good. If not, at least it's not going to take away from the game, lol.

[QUOTE="heretrix"] Another problem is that achievements are a Microsoft mandate. They have to be in every game in some form.There are no xbox 360 games without them, even the arcade titles. PSN trophies won't be, so I really don't see developers doing the extra work if they don't have to. They have enough trouble getting the games out the door.carljohnson3456

Well apparently achievements add to the value of a game, so surely devs will want to add them in. I cant imagine them being that hard to implement either. I wonder if Sony will make devs use them. If big guns like Konami are pushing Sony to use them, that's a good sign that developers actually want them to. Hopefully these trophies will be good. If not, at least it's not going to take away from the game, lol.

I hope all the cows get really really excited for this, and then June comes....

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"] Another problem is that achievements are a Microsoft mandate. They have to be in every game in some form.There are no xbox 360 games without them, even the arcade titles. PSN trophies won't be, so I really don't see developers doing the extra work if they don't have to. They have enough trouble getting the games out the door.heretrix

Well apparently achievements add to the value of a game, so surely devs will want to add them in. I cant imagine them being that hard to implement either. I wonder if Sony will make devs use them. If big guns like Konami are pushing Sony to use them, that's a good sign that developers actually want them to. Hopefully these trophies will be good. If not, at least it's not going to take away from the game, lol.

Exactly. Just look at games like MGO, these individual devs are left to figure out how online will work. So these devs can make you sign up for their websites to get an ID then get a gaming ID, and so on. Online, Trophies, and in-game XMB might be really just up to the devs if they want to implement them or not, because Sony is not making them mandatory. And speaking about mandatory, the devs can also have mandatory installs if they wanted to.

It's gonna get really interesting to see how people justify XBL cost in months to come.

"teh XBL powaaa" :P

FragTycoon

Oh so i take it the way things will work, Sony will magically release loads of new features on time now, that will not only bring PSN up to the level of XBL, but also pass it. And while this is happening, XBL will be at a standstill, with M$ not bothering to do anything new and let Sony catch up?

[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"] Another problem is that achievements are a Microsoft mandate. They have to be in every game in some form.There are no xbox 360 games without them, even the arcade titles. PSN trophies won't be, so I really don't see developers doing the extra work if they don't have to. They have enough trouble getting the games out the door.ReverseCycology

Well apparently achievements add to the value of a game, so surely devs will want to add them in. I cant imagine them being that hard to implement either. I wonder if Sony will make devs use them. If big guns like Konami are pushing Sony to use them, that's a good sign that developers actually want them to. Hopefully these trophies will be good. If not, at least it's not going to take away from the game, lol.

Exactly. Just look at games like MGO, these individual devs are left to figure out how online will work. So these devs can make you sign up for their websites to get an ID then get a gaming ID, and so on. Online, Trophies, and in-game XMB might be really just up to the devs if they want to implement them or not, because Sony is not making them mandatory. And speaking about mandatory, the devs can also have mandatory installs if they wanted to.

Could you imagine if Bungie had decided to make Halo 3 seperate fom XBL? WTF is up with that? Given how "smoothly" the beta went, I doubt that they could switch over and make it right by the time the game comes out next month even if they wanted to....

[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"] Another problem is that achievements are a Microsoft mandate. They have to be in every game in some form.There are no xbox 360 games without them, even the arcade titles. PSN trophies won't be, so I really don't see developers doing the extra work if they don't have to. They have enough trouble getting the games out the door.ReverseCycology

Well apparently achievements add to the value of a game, so surely devs will want to add them in. I cant imagine them being that hard to implement either. I wonder if Sony will make devs use them. If big guns like Konami are pushing Sony to use them, that's a good sign that developers actually want them to. Hopefully these trophies will be good. If not, at least it's not going to take away from the game, lol.

Exactly. Just look at games like MGO, these individual devs are left to figure out how online will work. So these devs can make you sign up for their websites to get an ID then get a gaming ID, and so on. Online, Trophies, and in-game XMB might be really just up to the devs if they want to implement them or not, because Sony is not making them mandatory. And speaking about mandatory, the devs can also have mandatory installs if they wanted to.

I thought the gaming ID for MGO was just for beta... and why sneak in a "mandatory install" comment? That's irrelevant.

[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"][QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"] Another problem is that achievements are a Microsoft mandate. They have to be in every game in some form.There are no xbox 360 games without them, even the arcade titles. PSN trophies won't be, so I really don't see developers doing the extra work if they don't have to. They have enough trouble getting the games out the door.carljohnson3456

Well apparently achievements add to the value of a game, so surely devs will want to add them in. I cant imagine them being that hard to implement either. I wonder if Sony will make devs use them. If big guns like Konami are pushing Sony to use them, that's a good sign that developers actually want them to. Hopefully these trophies will be good. If not, at least it's not going to take away from the game, lol.

Exactly. Just look at games like MGO, these individual devs are left to figure out how online will work. So these devs can make you sign up for their websites to get an ID then get a gaming ID, and so on. Online, Trophies, and in-game XMB might be really just up to the devs if they want to implement them or not, because Sony is not making them mandatory. And speaking about mandatory, the devs can also have mandatory installs if they wanted to.

I thought the gaming ID for MGO was just for beta... and why sneak in a "mandatory install" comment? That's irrelevant.

carlj, are you arguing against a person who ACTUALLY owns a PS3 that probably knows more PS3 tech than you do..?!

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"][QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"] Another problem is that achievements are a Microsoft mandate. They have to be in every game in some form.There are no xbox 360 games without them, even the arcade titles. PSN trophies won't be, so I really don't see developers doing the extra work if they don't have to. They have enough trouble getting the games out the door.SHuN_G0Ku

Well apparently achievements add to the value of a game, so surely devs will want to add them in. I cant imagine them being that hard to implement either. I wonder if Sony will make devs use them. If big guns like Konami are pushing Sony to use them, that's a good sign that developers actually want them to. Hopefully these trophies will be good. If not, at least it's not going to take away from the game, lol.

Exactly. Just look at games like MGO, these individual devs are left to figure out how online will work. So these devs can make you sign up for their websites to get an ID then get a gaming ID, and so on. Online, Trophies, and in-game XMB might be really just up to the devs if they want to implement them or not, because Sony is not making them mandatory. And speaking about mandatory, the devs can also have mandatory installs if they wanted to.

I thought the gaming ID for MGO was just for beta... and why sneak in a "mandatory install" comment? That's irrelevant.

carlj, are you arguing against a person who ACTUALLY owns a PS3 that probably knows more PS3 tech than you do..?!

Who? Reversecycology? Don't make me laugh, Each and every one of his posts are bashing the PS3...

Who? Reversecycology? Don't make me laugh, Each and every one of his posts are bashing the PS3...

sam280992

You forum-stalk him?

You weirdo.

carlj, are you arguing against a person who ACTUALLY owns a PS3 that probably knows more PS3 tech than you do..?!

SHuN_G0Ku

Lol. :lol: Reverse C is one of the biggest and most ignorant lemmings on the site. As for him actually owning a PS3....I'm pretty sure he's faking it.