first Bioshock mod released.

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#1 cobrax75
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http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/bioshock/download_6178921.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gumballs&tag=gumballs;img;1

this isnt the first bioshock mod in general...but its the first one to alter gameplay directly (the others just fixed some technical graphical problems)

and some people here actually tried to say the 360 version was better......This mod fixes the #1 complaint most people had with the game....being that it was to easy.

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#2 trizzle_a
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I remember that one lem who said that Bioshock wont have any mods.
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#3 dackchaar
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This is the defining point that PC>360.
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#4 cobrax75
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I believe the SDK hasnt even been released yet....

can you imagine what kind of stuff will be made when the newest unreal editor is made public.

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#5 GoodkupoBan
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I believe the SDK hasnt even been released yet....

can you imagine what kind of stuff will be made when the newest unreal editor is made public.

cobrax75

Umm yes, I remember playing Frag Ops and Red Orchestra for UT2k4 very clearly.

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#6 cobrax75
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official list of changes.

1) Wrench does 1/5 the amount of damage it used to do!

2) Rosie's have 2x more health!

3) Bouncers have 3x more health!

4) Ammo and money are alot more scarce!

5) Plasmids and Tonics now cost quadruple what they used to cost!

6) Most Gatherers Garden have 9 supplies of Health, Eve and Genetic Slots
Upgrade!

7) Harvesting Little Sisters now gives 400 ADAM while saving them gives 200
ADAM!

8) Most Circus of Values Vending Machines no longer sell ammo or AutoHacks!

9) Most Bandito Vending Machines sell AutoHacks!

10) Everything is alot harder to hack, especially Medical Stations and Vending
Machines!

11) All Health Stations yield at least one first aid kit if you break them. The
wrench works also!

12) Many Splicers have more health, or may be more inmune to certain plasmids!

13) Vending machines now only sell 3 films per roll!

14) Slight tone down to the crossbow's power!

15) Chemical Thrower is now extremely effective, but the chemicals are also
extremely scarce!

16) The wrench does 7x more damage to an enemy stuned by Electrobolt!

17) Items from Circus of Values and Bandito now cost more!

18) Damage done by things thrown by the Telekenisis plasmid is alot lower!

19) Explosive barrels, and tanks do more area damage!

20) The game will no longer help you if your low on supplies!

21) Paying the machine to hack itself costs a lot more, you also suffer a lot
more if you fail!

22) You will now feel as much damage from being electrocuted on water as the
splicers do!

23) You will now feel alot more pain if you accidentially burn your self with
incinerate!

24) The machinegun now does slightly more damage then before!

25) Cyclone trap is now more powerful!

26) Breaking stuff like Debri and Locks may take more hits with the wrench!

27) The wrench is more useful against thugs, but less useful versus other
splicers!

28) Anti-Personal Ammo and Anti-Armor Ammo are less powerful!

29) Falling does more damage to the player, and enemies he may fall on!

30) Dying will actually slightly increases difficulty.

31) The wrench now does alot more damage to Security Stuff like Turrets and
Cameras!

32) On easy mode so you have 4x health, 6x eve and do 6x more damage then hard
mode.

33) On normal mode so you have 2x health, 3x eve and do 3x more damage then
hard mode.

34) Bosses now have more health or do more damage!

35) The mod is most likely compatible with future versions of Bioshock.

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#7 Torn_NetSPy
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I finished playing it , why would I care about playing it again with a file that probably has a trojan in it?
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#8 -R3Volation
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I have Bioshock for 360 and PC and I just have to say PC>360. The image quality seems to be a lot better, as well as many of the effects. With this mod it still makes all the difference.
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#9 Zeliard9
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I finished playing it , why would I care about playing it again with a file that probably has a trojan in it?Torn_NetSPy

You don't rest your case. You just have no idea what a mod is.

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[QUOTE="Torn_NetSPy"]I finished playing it , why would I care about playing it again with a file that probably has a trojan in it?Zeliard9

You don't rest your case. You just have no idea what a mod is.

and this cant possibly have malware in it....its not an executable file.

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#11 GGNoRematch
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wtf? I finished playing BioShock on Hard and I died like a million times..

Why Would I want to play the game that's even harder than hard?

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#12 cobrax75
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wtf? I finished playing BioShock on Hard and I died like a million times..

Why Would I want to play the game that's even harder than hard?

GGNoRematch

dieing doesnt really matter in Bioshock because of its death system.

this isnt to increase difficulty anyway....its to have better balance in game.

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#13 Torn_NetSPy
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Once I finish a game I don't play it again. I don't even know how being bad ending is since it's just not fun playing a game twice.
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#14 Velocitas8
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I finished playing it , why would I care about playing it again with a file that probably has a trojan in it?Torn_NetSPy

Wow. Ignorant, much?

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#15 cobrax75
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Once I finish a game I don't play it again. I don't even know how being bad ending is since it's just not fun playing a game twice.Torn_NetSPy

a. the whole point is that the gameplay would be fundimentaly different this time.

b. its a shame you dont play good games twice.

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Once I finish a game I don't play it again. I don't even know how being bad ending is since it's just not fun playing a game twice.Torn_NetSPy

Wow, what a waste.

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#17 Zeliard9
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[QUOTE="Zeliard9"]

[QUOTE="Torn_NetSPy"]I finished playing it , why would I care about playing it again with a file that probably has a trojan in it?cobrax75

You don't rest your case. You just have no idea what a mod is.

and this cant possibly have malware in it....its not an executable file.

I remember posting that I can't wait for Bioshock mods to come out, and some console owners responded with something like "enjoy waiting 2 years, mods take a long time." I think a lot of them believe the only mods are total conversion mods. Even a relatively simple mod like this one is a drastic change to the original gameplay. Makes it more like System Shock 2 in that you have to be a lot more careful about hoarding and not wasting ammo and items.

I've gotta say though, I never understood the whining about the Vita-Chamber from PC gamers. You can simply quick save/quick load, like in every other PC FPS. Almost everytime I died, I just quick loaded. The Vita-Chamber is there, but nobody is forcing you to use it. Reminds me of people who whined about the fast travel in Oblivion. Nobody is forcing you to use the fast travel.

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#18 Velocitas8
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Once I finish a game I don't play it again. I don't even know how being bad ending is since it's just not fun playing a game twice.Torn_NetSPy

You buy games and only play them once?

Sucks to be you.

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#19 wklzip
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Once I finish a game I don't play it again. I don't even know how being bad ending is since it's just not fun playing a game twice.Torn_NetSPy

ok thats your decision i hope it works you well

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[QUOTE="Torn_NetSPy"]Once I finish a game I don't play it again. I don't even know how being bad ending is since it's just not fun playing a game twice.Velocitas8

You buy games and only play them once?

Sucks to be you.

Cause I play a game once? lol

If it has good multiplayer I keep playing it, but single player twice is boring.

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#21 Cubs360
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Who cares, we all know what Platform trumped in Sales.
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#22 Torn_NetSPy
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Who cares, we all know what Platform trumped in Sales.Cubs360

The 360 did.

There are way too many PC gamers I know that don't buy games and get them for free from torrent sites or even copying the game.

It's sad cause one day they may stop making for PCs and just do consoles.

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#23 Zeliard9
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Who cares, we all know what Platform trumped in Sales.Cubs360

You're right, sales = quality. Britney Spears is one of the best-selling female artists in history.

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#24 cobrax75
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Who cares, we all know what Platform trumped in Sales.Cubs360

right...because sales certainly guarentee quality.

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#25 Zeliard9
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[QUOTE="Cubs360"]Who cares, we all know what Platform trumped in Sales.Torn_NetSPy

The 360 did.

There are way too many PC gamers I know that don't buy games and get them for free from torrent sites or even copying the game.

It's sad cause one day they may stop making for PCs and just do consoles.

You don't know any PC gamers. You don't even know what a mod is.

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[QUOTE="Cubs360"]Who cares, we all know what Platform trumped in Sales.Zeliard9

You're right, sales = quality. Britney Spears is one of the best-selling female artists in history.

Shes hot! I love reading my anime comic books and listening to her jams

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#27 Velocitas8
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Cause I play a game once? lol

If it has good multiplayer I keep playing it, but single player twice is boring.

Torn_NetSPy

It's boring to re-play through singleplayer? Maybe in games with poor or mediocre gameplay. Are you telling me you don't re-play through FUN games on harder difficulties after beating them?

Even more replay value is added with mods like this one. Sure you know the story already, but if the gameplay is still fresh and fun there's plenty of reason to play through it again.

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#28 Torn_NetSPy
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[QUOTE="Torn_NetSPy"]

[QUOTE="Cubs360"]Who cares, we all know what Platform trumped in Sales.Zeliard9

The 360 did.

There are way too many PC gamers I know that don't buy games and get them for free from torrent sites or even copying the game.

It's sad cause one day they may stop making for PCs and just do consoles.

You don't know any PC gamers. You don't even know what a mod is.

A mod is something you download and it changes certain aspects of the game whether it be the graphics, the way game characters look or as with this mod the difficulty of the game

You don't tell me!

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#30 Velocitas8
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Who cares, we all know what Platform trumped in Sales.Cubs360

And?

Are you trying to say that makes it superior? :lol:

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[QUOTE="Torn_NetSPy"]Cause I play a game once? lol

If it has good multiplayer I keep playing it, but single player twice is boring.

Velocitas8

It's boring to re-play through singleplayer? Maybe in games with poor or mediocre gameplay. Are you telling me you don't re-play through FUN games on harder difficulties after beating them?

Even more replay value is added with mods like this one. Sure you know the story already, but if the gameplay is still fresh and fun there's plenty of reason to play through it again.

No, cause I already seen it and I don't want to see it again. It's not like going on a vacation, at least not for me.

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#32 Velocitas8
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A mod is something you download and it changes certain aspects of the game whether it be the graphics, the way game characters look or as with this mod the difficulty of the game

You don't tell me!

Torn_NetSPy

Those are only some of the most basic mods.

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#33 Zeliard9
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A mod is something you download and it changes certain aspects of the game whether it be the graphics, the way game characters look or as with this mod the difficulty of the game

You don't tell me!

Torn_NetSPy

If you knew what a mod can do, based on past experience, you wouldn't have said "why would I care about playing it again". Because that's the whole point of mods, to give you reasons to play the game again, and often times make it a more enjoyable experience. And if you had any experience with computers at all, you wouldn't have been worried about a non-executable hosted on Gamespot being a trojan.

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#34 Velocitas8
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No, cause I already seen it and I don't want to see it again. It's not like going on a vacation, at least not for me.Torn_NetSPy

Do you not play games for fun and enjoyment?

Or do you only play games for the storyline?

Either way you fall into the minority of gamers. Most who enjoy a game will re-play it at least a couple times. That goes double for PC gamers who have access to mods, which can modify games into an entirely different experience.

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~-~That's just like you hermits rubbing it in the poor people's faces that they can't afford a good PC!:cry: You know maybe we wanted this on PC and maybe we wanted to make stuff with the ES:CS for Oblivion but we don't have that kind of money or have any idea how to build PCs.:cry:... *gasp gasp*:cry:... :(... :|... Sorry, I'm ok now.>.>...~-~ ~-~Added: Actually, I'm like what's his face. I usually only play a game through once. (if I even make it through the whole thing. I never finished FF X despite it being in my sig.:?) It just doesn't hold my attention as well. But you know what? BioShock was an exception to that. I've beaten it twice and I'm thinking of doing it again since I'm missing two achievements. (didn't find all the tapes or tonics.) Castlevania games are also always an exception to that. But besides those I haven't done a second run through in ages.~-~
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#37 RebornInFlames
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that's a pretty cool mod, but what I like to do to make the difficulty harder is reload when you die instead of vita-chamber. still, some of these really would alter things for the better....one that is sorely missing is that electrogel should no longer paralyze the whole time it is sprayed on an enemy. this gun could take out any big daddy without even spending a whole clip, and renders the fight with fontaine stupefyingly easy.