Five Studios Microsoft Should Buy

"Microsoft's first-party developers portfolio is rather lackluster when compared to its rivals. But that's not to say that Microsoft doesn't have decent first-party developers at all. Lionhead Studios, Rare Ltd. and Turn 10 Studios are some of the examples of high quality devs that make exclusive titles for the Xbox brand."

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Rare has changed so much when purchased by Microsoft.

Rare has changed so much when purchased by Microsoft.

VensInferno

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Rare has changed so much when purchased by Microsoft.

percech

I've heard quite differently actually, that Microsoft actually forced Rare into making what it did and refused many ideas and concepts that likened back to their N64 days.

I'd rather MS focus on XBL fees, DLC, and kenetic that's where the money's at. Most xbox fans seems content with hypying MS's position in the market based on these things alone so why mess up a good thing. I say leave the games to a company who's actually focused on making them like Sony or Nintendo.

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Rare has changed so much when purchased by Microsoft.

Cheese-Muffins

I've heard quite differently actually, that Microsoft actually forced Rare into making what it did and refused many ideas and concepts that likened back to their N64 days.

1.Epic Games=No. Epic would probably cost A LOT to buy and Microsoft would never make a profit, so no. Maintaning a strong 3rd party would benifet MS more.

2.Crytek=Yes, Adds two series (Crysis and Timesplitters) to Microsoft and should be Microsofts major purchase next gen

3.Remedy=no, just buy the rights to Alan Wake and have 343i work on it.

4.Rufian Games=No, all they have worked with MS on is Crackdown (I think) And the second installment made MS shy away from them.

5.Gas Powered Games=idk, Never heard of them.

1.Epic Games=No. Epic would probably cost A LOT to buy and Microsoft would never make a profit, so no. Maintaning a strong 3rd party would benifet MS more.

ABCarmine

thats like that thread of sony buying rockstar, not even worth it

Why buy a studio that already makes games for your platform and if you pay them...third party exclusives.KC_Hokie

This. There's absolutely no reason why MS should have to buy studios for 3rd parties.

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[QUOTE="percech"] That's really Rare's fault for not releasing classics and games for the correct demographic.percech

I've heard quite differently actually, that Microsoft actually forced Rare into making what it did and refused many ideas and concepts that likened back to their N64 days.

No, it was coming from ex-Rare employees. IIRC, Microsoft wanted B&K to be even more radically different than what Nuts & Bolts was, but they refused and settled upon the vehicular-type gameplay.

[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="Cheese-Muffins"]

I've heard quite differently actually, that Microsoft actually forced Rare into making what it did and refused many ideas and concepts that likened back to their N64 days.

Cheese-Muffins

No, it was coming from ex-Rare employees. IIRC, Microsoft wanted B&K to be even more radically different than what Nuts & Bolts was, but they refused and settled upon the vehicular-type gameplay.

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[QUOTE="percech"] That's completely farce. Just a bunch of rumors made by people still butthurt about Rare leaving Nintendo. MS gave them plenty of resources and chances, but they were losing more money than making money at the rate Rare was going. I can assure that Banjo Nuts & Bolts was completely Rare's idea. MS is just like any other company. They wanna make money. The only use they had left for Rare was to make Kinect titles.percech

No, it was coming from ex-Rare employees. IIRC, Microsoft wanted B&K to be even more radically different than what Nuts & Bolts was, but they refused and settled upon the vehicular-type gameplay.

I've been trying to find the quote I was looking for, but I can't find it. It came from the same people who worked on the original BK games...but just because Rare said that doesn't mean anything. Almost everyone who worked there in their Nintendo days is gone.

microsoft shouldnt buy any devs we dont need any games for kinect

[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="Cheese-Muffins"]

No, it was coming from ex-Rare employees. IIRC, Microsoft wanted B&K to be even more radically different than what Nuts & Bolts was, but they refused and settled upon the vehicular-type gameplay.

Cheese-Muffins

I've been trying to find the quote I was looking for. It came from the same people who worked on the original BK games. Just because Rare said that doesn't mean anything. Almost everyone who worked there in their Nintendo days is gone.

Why would any body want M$ to buy up studios after what they did to Rare? Gamers can't be this stupidIDoItLikeAboss

What did they do to Rare? Rare was dead when Microsoft bought it. Atleast they gave them A LOT OF CHANCES "What is it, 9 games that were released under MS, Sounds good"

When Next Gen starts this should be MS First Party

343i

Rare

Liongate

Turn10

Crytek

A newly revived Blizzard

and that MGS Toronto or whatever.

Then why did M$ even buy Rare for almost half a billion dollars IF they(Rare) were supposedly already "dead?" Wow M$ must be the dumbass corporation ever. It's funny how just on que here come the 360 fanboys rushing in to defend m$ to the deathIDoItLikeAboss

*Calls Microsoft the Dumbest corporation ever

*Forgets Microsoft is a more succesful Corporation than Sony Finance Wise

*Calls me a 360 fanboy

lol.

No, micrsoft has proven they don't need 1st party games, ONLINE IS HUGE. Unless sony picks up there game in that area, micrsoft will do just fine.

None make much sense, crytek has a good thing going with ea. Epic is well epic, they like doing their own thing.

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[QUOTE="percech"] Rare themselves stated that this is exactly what they wanted to do with Banjo Tooie back on N64 but they weren't able to due to hardware limitations.percech

I've been trying to find the quote I was looking for. It came from the same people who worked on the original BK games. Just because Rare said that doesn't mean anything. Almost everyone who worked there in their Nintendo days is gone.

Except Microsoft pushed Rare into creating their games in a new light, away from the more family friendly approach seen on the N64 using cute animals/characters, etc. (even went as far as having them change Kameo into calling her an elf rather than a fairy, like they wanted in the first place. The concept art for Kameo 2 shows MS's influence). They canceled a Conker sequel, Kameo sequel, Banjo racer, etc, and Gregg Mayles, the lead designer of the game, even mentioned that vehicular platforming wasn't the first option they considered. When working on the game, he stated that the traditional platforming of the original two games did not have an audience on the 360...

If you don't believe me, check out this thread:

http://neogaf.net/forum/showthread.php?t=421821

It has a ton of concept art and quotes from ex-Rare employees. Just reading what they have to say and the cancelled work they have shows you how much influence Microsoft has had on the studio.

P.s Turn 10 studios is highly over rated IMO I've always viewed Forza as a poor man's Gran Turismo. Forza don't give you a robust option of cars and tracks like Gran Turismo does. IDoItLikeAboss

Forza doesn't take a decade to make and looks better and has detail on all the cars.

P.s Turn 10 studios is highly over rated IMO I've always viewed Forza as a poor man's Gran Turismo. Forza don't give you a robust option of cars and tracks like Gran Turismo does. IDoItLikeAboss

*Calls Turn 10 studios highly overrated

*Forgets that Turn 10 is never really talked about

*Calls Forza a poor mans Gran Turismo

*Still manages to get better reviews in half the time.

lol

[QUOTE="IDoItLikeAboss"]Then why did M$ even buy Rare for almost half a billion dollars IF they(Rare) were supposedly already "dead?" Wow M$ must be the dumbass corporation ever. It's funny how just on que here come the 360 fanboys rushing in to defend m$ to the deathxbox360isgr8t

You are wrong......M$ have buy Rare for only half a million dollars.

[QUOTE="IDoItLikeAboss"]P.s Turn 10 studios is highly over rated IMO I've always viewed Forza as a poor man's Gran Turismo. Forza don't give you a robust option of cars and tracks like Gran Turismo does. James161324

Forza doesn't take a decade to make and looks better and has detail on all the cars.

to the few people here, Rare went down hill with Nintendo, Dont forget that gamecube happened after N64, STOP thinking Rare went to MS right after N64. and stop thinking just because they had cool concept art, the game would be AAAA.

I'd rather MS focus on XBL fees, DLC, and kenetic that's where the money's at. Most xbox fans seems content with hypying MS's position in the market based on these things alone so why mess up a good thing. I say leave the games to a company who's actually focused on making them like Sony or Nintendo.

casharmy

Bingo. Make my choice next gen even easier.

I love how everyone talks as if Rare was some sort of awesome developer in a past life. As an independent, they made a bunch of mediocre crap; about the only decent thing they made was Battletoads. As a Nintendo second-party, they had afew hits; GoldenEye, DKC, PD and Conker's BFD come to mind. But they also had tons of misses such as Jet Force Gemini, Blast Corps and KI Gold. Ultimately, like most developers with long histories in this industry, they are rather mediocre, but they have a few hits that gamers liked.

Right now, as the primary developer for the Avatar system and Microsoft Studios' Kinect titles, they are probably making more money and having more influence than they ever had before.

I shudder to think about what Microsoft would do to Crytek.

Buying a studio proves to be no worth financially. percech

why? outside of system wars it doesn't matter and on system wars if they did Cows would talk about the evils of microsoft for buying Studios that sony never does this.

[QUOTE="IDoItLikeAboss"]Why would any body want M$ to buy up studios after what they did to Rare? Gamers can't be this stupidABCarmine

What did they do to Rare? Rare was dead when Microsoft bought it. Atleast they gave them A LOT OF CHANCES "What is it, 9 games that were released under MS, Sounds good"

The further you go down the list the more realistic the acquisition would be. The first few though are a big "hell no".