For all bashers of Crysis 2 and non belivers,there is no port *link*

http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2010/02/14/crysis-2-there-is-no-port/

Man it sounds great,they actually worked around having to make 3 times more to port game from pc to 360 then on ps3,great news :)

Now they will be able to focus on it like its exclusive for every platform,i new they wouldnt say they are targeting for best game on all platforms.

It sounds like the stuff of dreams for developers – both the PS3 and 360 versions run in-sync alongside the PC version across three monitors, which can all be edited on the fly as required with a keyboard and mouse.

There is no downtime, says the magazine – the game simply exists as multiformat: two testers play the console iterations whilst a third edits the game live. Everything is shared, the engine powering all three versions together – "there is no port".

It sounds terrible to a PC gamer. They'll develop a game for consoles with 512 mb of ram that's bound to be equal on all 3 plataforms instead of a PC with 2-4 gbs and they'll have to lock the fps in 30. There will be sacrifices and cutbacks, I believe; the good thing about the first Crysis was that it didn't make any at all (no wonder why it is such a heavy game).

whats with the worsihp of this meh game. only thing great about it is the engine it runs on. I got bored of it a long time ago .

It sounds terrible to a PC gamer. They'll develop a game for consoles with 512 mb of ram that's bound to be equal on all 3 plataforms instead of a PC with 2-4 gbs and they'll have to lock the fps in 30. There will be sacrifices and cutbacks, I believe; the good thing about the first Crysis was that it didn't make any at all.

Masculus

It might be, what bothers me is the probability of having some features and some of the liberty of the player taken away. Don't know if console limitations will be taken into consideration on the design of the game mostly in features such as the openess of the mapsor if they'll be streamed. Maybe there is no console limitations. We don't know nothing about the game, just the engine... They should show gameplay already!

Masculus

It might be, what bothers me is the probability of having some features and some of the liberty of the player taken away. Don't know if console limitations will be taken into consideration on the design of the game mostly in features such as the openess of the mapsor if they'll be streamed. Maybe there is no console limitations. We don't know nothing about the game, just the engine... They should show gameplay already!

I sure would trade some of Crysis freedom for more intrigue and deeper story.Also it wont be downgraded,this article says it all,its like exclusive on all 3 platforms.PC version will have all the assets that Crysis 1 had but more optimized and "updated",consoles meanwhile will be cut for some high assets but will look better then tech demo because it wont be open with alot of vegetation but rather more linear,shall i say vertical so that textures fit in vram,but they will be higher res then those in tech demo.

It sounds terrible to a PC gamer. They'll develop a game for consoles with 512 mb of ram that's bound to be equal on all 3 plataforms instead of a PC with 2-4 gbs and they'll have to lock the fps in 30. There will be sacrifices and cutbacks, I believe; the good thing about the first Crysis was that it didn't make any at all (no wonder why it is such a heavy game).

Masculus

They built the Cry Engine 3 to automatically scale the game between the 3 platforms. They can build one version and it will be optimized for all 3 at the same time. It's extremely powerful tech.

Whoops, that's one too many objects for X console, we are going to have to delete it from all three versions to keep it consistent...

That's what's going to happen, sure certain effects are scalable; but level design (game play impacting) is not.

I'm beggining to like Crytek quite alot, this is a very good move.

Whoops, that's one too many objects for X console, we are going to have to delete it from all three versions to keep it consistent...

That's what's going to happen, sure certain effects of scalable; but level design (game play impacting) is not.

AnnoyedDragon

I'm sure they can manually change some things. SAGE_OF_FIRE

In terms of foliage density and object LOD distance; I have no doubt that they can scale the PC version up higher. But in terms of object placement, say a battered car that can be used for cover, that will be kept the same across all three versions.

That will be designed around what consoles can support.

Seems like this game is more to sell the tech than anything else :P

The only bashers of Crysis 2 are PC fanboys angry to see their behemoth FPS that solidified their superiority be done with nearly the same results on the consoles.

The only bashers of Crysis 2 are PC fanboys angry to see their behemoth FPS that solidified their superiority be done with nearly the same results on the consoles.

clubsammich91

The only bashers of Crysis 2 are PC fanboys angry to see their behemoth FPS that solidified their superiority be done with nearly the same results on the consoles.

clubsammich91

It's amazing how someone can make comments that scream out for criticism; and criticise PC gamers for responding to these uninformed comments in the same sentence.

I think CryEngine 3 is an amazing piece of tech, here is a video showing what TC said :D

[QUOTE="Masculus"]

It sounds terrible to a PC gamer. They'll develop a game for consoles with 512 mb of ram that's bound to be equal on all 3 plataforms instead of a PC with 2-4 gbs and they'll have to lock the fps in 30. There will be sacrifices and cutbacks, I believe; the good thing about the first Crysis was that it didn't make any at all (no wonder why it is such a heavy game).

They built the Cry Engine 3 to automatically scale the game between the 3 platforms. They can build one version and it will be optimized for all 3 at the same time. It's extremely powerful tech.

I have always thought this would be extemely interesting to see. Here we have a developer that has made it's name and sold it's games based on the premise that they trump up the graphics and physics to the point where no ones current computer can run it. Not hard for you to be graphics king when you scale your game way past what other developers would ever attempt due to lost sales from unplayability. I am giddy with anticipation to see what this "great" dev can do when they are limited to the tech that everyone else has to use. Obviously I'm talking about the console versions. I expect the game to be a major flop, however I would be very happy to be proven wrong but I wouldn't count on it.

whats with the worsihp of this meh game. only thing great about it is the engine it runs on. I got bored of it a long time ago .

dontshackzmii

The only bashers of Crysis 2 are PC fanboys angry to see their behemoth FPS that solidified their superiority be done with nearly the same results on the consoles.

clubsammich91

I expect that Crysis 2 will be a great game and to be succesful in consoles, but mostly because I want to see more Crysis games, and the console sales of the games could provide foundings to keep pushing the tech in the PC versions.

Aside from this, I have no special interest in playing a fps with a pad, or at lower resolutions and framerrates and level of detail than in my 8800 GT 2.5 years ago. Currently C, CWH and CW runs maxed (except AA) at 1080p x 40-50 fps in my 5870 powered HTPC.

Seems like this game is more to sell the tech than anything else :P

Espada12

I think CryEngine 3 is an amazing piece of tech, here is a video showing what TC said :D

anotherone10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlVBSaaI5wk

[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]

The only bashers of Crysis 2 are PC fanboys angry to see their behemoth FPS that solidified their superiority be done with nearly the same results on the consoles.

AnnoyedDragon

It's amazing how someone can make comments that scream out for criticism; and criticise PC gamers for responding to these uninformed comments in the same sentence.

That's why I said "nearly the same results" in my sentence. If you have a powerful enough gaming rig it will look better than the console counterpart, but the game still will look fantastic on all three systems. clubsammich91

Sure 2010 hardware has improved; but 2005 hardware can achieve nearly the same results, 5 years has done little for technological progress huh? :roll:

Give me a break, if you are going to make such claims we are done here, not interested.

[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]That's why I said "nearly the same results" in my sentence. If you have a powerful enough gaming rig it will look better than the console counterpart, but the game still will look fantastic on all three systems. AnnoyedDragon

Sure 2010 hardware has improved; but 2005 hardware can achieve nearly the same results, 5 years has done little for technological progress huh? :roll:

Give me a break, if you are going to make such claims we are done here, not interested.

I don't know why your so up tight:? Fine, Crysis 2 on consoles will look like an N64 game compared to the PC version. I don't know why PC gamers use graphics to top us console people here, modding should be your main argument.clubsammich91

I'm not interested in whatever steriotype you have formed in your head and decided to assign to me.

My criticism is you claiming 5 years of technological progress has done little to improve performance, that's what you suggested when you said consoles can produce "nearly the same results" as a gaming PC. It isn't egotistical of me to object to that comment, it is egotistical of you to suggest consoles have such incredible abilities to transcend progress while PC has barely improved in half a decade.

[QUOTE="Masculus"]

It sounds terrible to a PC gamer. They'll develop a game for consoles with 512 mb of ram that's bound to be equal on all 3 plataforms instead of a PC with 2-4 gbs and they'll have to lock the fps in 30. There will be sacrifices and cutbacks, I believe; the good thing about the first Crysis was that it didn't make any at all (no wonder why it is such a heavy game).

Wasdie

They built the Cry Engine 3 to automatically scale the game between the 3 platforms. They can build one version and it will be optimized for all 3 at the same time. It's extremely powerful tech.

[QUOTE="Sollet"]Uhm I think the PC version will be the first game to trumph Crysis in the graphics department.Masculus

It might be, what bothers me is the probability of having some features and some of the liberty of the player taken away. Don't know if console limitations will be taken into consideration on the design of the game mostly in features such as the openess of the mapsor if they'll be streamed. Maybe there is no console limitations. We don't know nothing about the game, just the engine... They should show gameplay already!

[QUOTE="Espada12"]Seems like this game is more to sell the tech than anything else :PRavenLoud

I have nothing against the UE3 but I am definitely more hyped for the CE3 and wish to see it in more games as well. Crytek has impressed me significantly more than Epic has.

[QUOTE="RavenLoud"][QUOTE="anotherone10"] The 360 version seems to be trailing behind, takes longer to respond and has framerate issues. :shock: Anyone else seen this?Magik85

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlVBSaaI5wk

Well, i think we should wait for a final product to see which looks & performs better.

[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]I don't know why your so up tight:? Fine, Crysis 2 on consoles will look like an N64 game compared to the PC version. I don't know why PC gamers use graphics to top us console people here, modding should be your main argument.AnnoyedDragon

I'm not interested in whatever steriotype you have formed in your head and decided to assign to me.

My criticism is you claiming 5 years of technological progress has done little to improve performance, that's what you suggested when you said consoles can produce "nearly the same results" as a gaming PC. It isn't egotistical of me to object to that comment, it is egotistical of you to suggest consoles have such incredible abilities to transcend progress while PC has barely improved in half a decade.

First of all, wasn't assigning any stereotype to anybody. Second, I really don't understand the argument your trying to make. Yes, consoles have remained static while PC technology has improved over the years. But Crytech is a smart company and I'm sure they will make a great looking game on all 3 platforms and that is all I'm saying. I don't know why your turning "This game will look great all around" into "This game will look exactly the same all around" In other words, the PC version will look better, but the console versions will still look fantastic.

clubsammich91

No, you said consoles using old tech will look nearly as good as PCs using new tech. That it will look good on all systems but better on PC was a response made after the original comment. Your initial comment was meant as an attack on PC gaming, you said PC gamers are angry because the game that demonstrated PC capability would be done 'nearly as good' on console hardware.

You didn't say it would look good on all systems; with PC being better. You said PC progress doesn't count for much; because these cheap 2005 systems would produce nearly the same results. That PC gamers were aware of this and that is why they are angry.

I don't think you realize what a can of worms you were opening up there, in fact you probably do and that's why you are trying to change its meaning when what you said initially was clear.

The only bashers of Crysis 2 are PC fanboys angry to see their behemoth FPS that solidified their superiority be done with nearly the same results on the consoles.

clubsammich91

Honestly I deal with console gamer comments all day so I can just ignore this, it's that you are trying to deny it that has my attention.

[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]

First of all, wasn't assigning any stereotype to anybody. Second, I really don't understand the argument your trying to make. Yes, consoles have remained static while PC technology has improved over the years. But Crytech is a smart company and I'm sure they will make a great looking game on all 3 platforms and that is all I'm saying. I don't know why your turning "This game will look great all around" into "This game will look exactly the same all around" In other words, the PC version will look better, but the console versions will still look fantastic.

AnnoyedDragon

No, you said consoles using old tech will look nearly as good as PCs using new tech. That it will look good on all systems but better on PC was a response made after the original comment. Your initial comment was meant as an attack on PC gaming, you said PC gamers are angry because the game that demonstrated PC capability would be done 'nearly as good' on console hardware.

You didn't say it would look good on all systems; with PC being better. You said PC progress doesn't count for much; because these cheap 2005 systems would produce nearly the same results. That PC gamers were aware of this and that is why they are angry.

I don't think you realize what a can of worms you were opening up there, in fact you probably do and that's why you are trying to change its meaning when what you said initially was clear.

The only bashers of Crysis 2 are PC fanboys angry to see their behemoth FPS that solidified their superiority be done with nearly the same results on the consoles.

clubsammich91

Honestly I deal with console gamer comments all day so I can just ignore this, it's that you are trying to deny it that has my attention.

Ehhh .I really don't understand the point you're trying to made here dude. I could make an argument about how there is a reason why Crysis 2 is going to consoles instead of being a PC exclusive, or I could point out that Cryengine 3 is being designed for all 3 systems rather than just the PC.

clubsammich91

And I would counter by pointing out the cross platform orientation of this generation, leading to games on both PC and console going cross platform to accommodate development costs, says nothing bad about PC or consoles. It is simply developers adapting to rising content development costs, Crysis made a suitable profit; but with budgets in the $20 million range went cross platform to access a larger audience.

If you attempted to spin this as saying something bad about PC; I could simply point out the number of games going cross platform on consoles as well. On top of that I could point out that despite the cross platform orientation of this generation, PC has more 3rd party exclusives.

In the end however, you would be in the wrong for attempting to make such a criticism. You started this with a insult to PC, a insult I criticised. You would respond to my criticism of your insult by attempting to further insult PC? That would just further put you in the wrong.

To clarify my original point, I was saying that Crysis 1 was the game for PC gamers to flaunt their superiority at console gamers and now with Crysis 2 going to consoles as well that superiority will take a pretty big blow. Since we haven't even seen a single screenshot of the game on any platform it would be stupid of me and you to say which version looks better than the other. But what I do know is that the game will look great on all 3 platforms. Pleas stop twisting my words.

clubsammich91

Considering we have multiple sources of information that indicate the impact consoles specification has had on Crysis, this image just being one example, how would it diminish PC's technological advantage? To do that consoles would have to match or come near to PC capability, doing with 2005 hardware what PC needed at least 2008 to run. Seeing how the sources we have show consoles are not doing that, it would not diminish PCs performance advantage in the slightest.

If you honestly believe consoles 'might' do just that, then you are demonstrating you are either highly uninformed about PC capability; or are too biased to recognise that. I don't have to twist your words because what you are saying is clear enough, despite your repeated denial of your own words. You think consoles are right up there, just under PC capability, despite half a decade passing since their hardware was finalized. You think because Crysis is coming to consoles then PC capability is diminished, despite there being various examples of consoles failing to match the capability you think has been diminished.

Do you even know that Crysis has been converted to Cell streaming as a result of console involvement? If not you don't know enough to comment on what consoles are achieving, it isn't what Crysis was doing on PC, that's for sure.

[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]

Ehhh .I really don't understand the point you're trying to made here dude. I could make an argument about how there is a reason why Crysis 2 is going to consoles instead of being a PC exclusive, or I could point out that Cryengine 3 is being designed for all 3 systems rather than just the PC.

AnnoyedDragon

And I would counter by pointing out the cross platform orientation of this generation, leading to games on both PC and console going cross platform to accommodate development costs, says nothing bad about PC or consoles. It is simply developers adapting to rising content development costs, Crysis made a suitable profit; but with budgets in the $20 million range went cross platform to access a larger audience.

If you attempted to spin this as saying something bad about PC; I could simply point out the number of games going cross platform on consoles as well. On top of that I could point out that despite the cross platform orientation of this generation, PC has more 3rd party exclusives.

In the end however, you would be in the wrong for attempting to make such a criticism. You started this with a insult to PC, a insult I criticised. You would respond to my criticism of your insult by attempting to further insult PC? That would just further put you in the wrong.

To clarify my original point, I was saying that Crysis 1 was the game for PC gamers to flaunt their superiority at console gamers and now with Crysis 2 going to consoles as well that superiority will take a pretty big blow. Since we haven't even seen a single screenshot of the game on any platform it would be stupid of me and you to say which version looks better than the other. But what I do know is that the game will look great on all 3 platforms. Pleas stop twisting my words.

clubsammich91

Considering we have multiple sources of information that indicate the impact consoles specification has had on Crysis, this image just being one example, how would it diminish PC's technological advantage? To do that consoles would have to match or come near to PC capability, doing with 2005 hardware what PC needed at least 2008 to run. Seeing how the sources we have show consoles are not doing that, it would not diminish PCs performance advantage in the slightest.

If you honestly believe consoles 'might' do just that, then you are demonstrating you are either highly uninformed about PC capability; or are too biased to recognise that. I don't have to twist your words because what you are saying is clear enough, despite your repeated denial of your own words. You think consoles are right up there, just under PC capability, despite half a decade passing since their hardware was finalized. You think because Crysis is coming to consoles then PC capability is diminished, despite there being various examples of consoles failing to match the capability you think has been diminished.

Do you even know that Crysis has been converted to Cell streaming as a result of console involvement? If not you don't know enough to comment on what consoles are achieving, it isn't what Crysis was doing on PC, that's for sure.

But this will not change the fact that the game will look great on consoles as well. Once again I will say this as clearly as I can. The PC version of Crysis 2 will look better than the console version, but that wont stop the console versions from looking great. Let me repeat that one more time just so we're clear. the console versions will look great, but the PC version will look better.clubsammich91

I'm not questioning that, despite your repeated attempts to suggest I am. I have clearly stated what post I am referring to; and I have said I have noticed you are attempting to use this post in an effort to cover up the initial comment. This is a rework from what you originally said to make it sound less of an attack on PC, this is not what I am criticising, I explained that earlier.

You have repeatedly avoided admitting to your original comment, insisting the response that came later was the true meaning; when the original is clearly meant to jab at PC. If you refuse to recognise what you yourself said then there isn't much point in continuing, you will just continue to push this while I keep pointing out I am referring to your first comment.

Later.

[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]But this will not change the fact that the game will look great on consoles as well. Once again I will say this as clearly as I can. The PC version of Crysis 2 will look better than the console version, but that wont stop the console versions from looking great. Let me repeat that one more time just so we're clear. the console versions will look great, but the PC version will look better.AnnoyedDragon

I'm not questioning that, despite your repeated attempts to suggest I am. I have clearly stated what post I am referring to; and I have said I have noticed you are attempting to use this post in an effort to cover up the initial comment. This is a rework from what you originally said to make it sound less of an attack on PC, this is not what I am criticising, I explained that earlier.

You have repeatedly avoided admitting to your original comment, insisting the response that came later was the true meaning; when the original is clearly meant to jab at PC. If you refuse to recognise what you yourself said then there isn't much point in continuing, you will just continue to push this while I keep pointing out I am referring to your first comment.

Later.

Devs like id Software and Crytek are the only few ones with real true programming talent, the same cannot be said about the other 97% of lazy, no talent devs in the game industry who are not willing to do anything to advance game developemt technology. I love what I was seeing in that video.

It sounds terrible to a PC gamer. They'll develop a game for consoles with 512 mb of ram that's bound to be equal on all 3 plataforms instead of a PC with 2-4 gbs and they'll have to lock the fps in 30. There will be sacrifices and cutbacks, I believe; the good thing about the first Crysis was that it didn't make any at all (no wonder why it is such a heavy game).

Masculus

Sorry to say, but it looks like they're going where the money is.

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

whats with the worsihp of this meh game. only thing great about it is the engine it runs on. I got bored of it a long time ago .

AAllxxjjnn

or... maybe he's right and Crysis is a very "meh" game, only praised because of its visuals. Crysis is nothing special, it's a benchmark for my PC and nothing more.

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

whats with the worsihp of this meh game. only thing great about it is the engine it runs on. I got bored of it a long time ago .

moistsandwich

or... maybe he's right and Crysis is a very "meh" game, only praised because of its visuals. Crysis is nothing special, it's a benchmark for my PC and nothing more.

Crysis gameplay is as good as its visuals. i never understand why people say the gameplay is medicore. I think they must onyl say this because they can not get the game to run smoothly enough to make it a enjoy able expereince. I know when I played Crysis on a 8800gts I could not get into it because of stutter and lag. But now on a more recent rig the game runs well and then you start to see what's underneath the bonnet in terms of gameplay. And it's a great shooter with loads of freedom and different approaches to situations.

[QUOTE="Masculus"]

It sounds terrible to a PC gamer. They'll develop a game for consoles with 512 mb of ram that's bound to be equal on all 3 plataforms instead of a PC with 2-4 gbs and they'll have to lock the fps in 30. There will be sacrifices and cutbacks, I believe; the good thing about the first Crysis was that it didn't make any at all (no wonder why it is such a heavy game).

macs77

Sorry to say, but it looks like they're going where the money is.

Who wouldn't want to use a game engine that makes multi-platform development faster and easier, and could potentially maximize profits? gives the devs more money to make more, and better games.

ill be getting the game regardless, but i know the game wont hold a candle to the original seeing as its getting developed along with the console version.

I have a hard time believing that Crysis 2 will not feel more like a console game. I can already tell from some of the interviews that are being given and the focus being given to the console versions of the game that it will feel dumbed down to anyone who played the original Crysis on PC. Look at all of the former PC juggernauts that have attempted to go to consoles and turned to complete crap or abandoned the original fanbase of the game : Deus ex, Far Cry, TES, FEAR,Rainbow Six,Unreal Tournament ,Thief,Call of Duty,Fallout,Battlefield (where is battlefield 3?) and SWAT (SWAT4 kind of changed that). Those are just off the top of my head. I realize some of these games still went on to get good scores on GS ,but most went through a fundamental change in how the game was meant to be played. By comparing previous versions of the game you could tell the developer catered to the console audience to a much further degree.

My guess?

Next PC games on the chopping block: Crysis,S.T.A.L.K.E.R and the Witcher.

It sounds terrible to a PC gamer. They'll develop a game for consoles with 512 mb of ram that's bound to be equal on all 3 plataforms instead of a PC with 2-4 gbs and they'll have to lock the fps in 30. There will be sacrifices and cutbacks, I believe; the good thing about the first Crysis was that it didn't make any at all (no wonder why it is such a heavy game).

Masculus