for better and smoother framerates for ps3 games, do these things

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The following improvements should be made for better and smoother framerates for ps3 games:

Setting the BD/DVD upscaler set off, HDMI 24fps off, HDMI audio set on bitstream, PS2 upscaler/smoother set off.

Disable system display notify/ mediaserver off / all other automatic setting set to off / internet disable if not multiplaying and other setting etc will all help improve framerates.

Happy Holidays.

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The following improvements should be made for better and smoother framerates for ps3 games:

Setting the BD/DVD upscaler set off, HDMI 24fps off, HDMI audio set on bitstream, PS2 upscaler/smoother set off.

Disable system display notify/ mediaserver off / all other automatic setting set to off / internet disable if not multiplaying and other setting etc will all help improve framerates.

Happy Holidays.

0gramaticERRORS

Just set ur ps3 off. For better framerates play games on 360.

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The following improvements should be made for better and smoother framerates for ps3 games:

Setting the BD/DVD upscaler set off, HDMI 24fps off, HDMI audio set on bitstream, PS2 upscaler/smoother set off.

Disable system display notify/ mediaserver off / all other automatic setting set to off / internet disable if not multiplaying and other setting etc will all help improve framerates.

Happy Holidays.

Fruity_mixer

Just set ur ps3 off. For better framerates play games on 360.

:lol:

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#4 Runningflame570
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Just set ur ps3 off. For better framerates play games on 360.

Fruity_mixer

No, 360 is DiRT-y.

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#5 lazerluke
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Or improve your framerates by buying a 360 with its UMA.
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The following improvements should be made for better and smoother framerates for ps3 games:

Setting the BD/DVD upscaler set off, HDMI 24fps off, HDMI audio set on bitstream, PS2 upscaler/smoother set off.

Disable system display notify/ mediaserver off / all other automatic setting set to off / internet disable if not multiplaying and other setting etc will all help improve framerates.

Happy Holidays.

0gramaticERRORS

so you want people to turn off the reason why the ps3 is a good blu ray player, it the reason i got thing 1080/24 is a must have to stop the judder 1.3 hdmi.

lol it's like saying if you want fast fps on a pc put all the rez and setting to low imo rofl.

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#8 F-14Bombcat
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[QUOTE="0gramaticERRORS"]

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The following improvements should be made for better and smoother framerates for ps3 games:

Setting the BD/DVD upscaler set off, HDMI 24fps off, HDMI audio set on bitstream, PS2 upscaler/smoother set off.

Disable system display notify/ mediaserver off / all other automatic setting set to off / internet disable if not multiplaying and other setting etc will all help improve framerates.

Happy Holidays.

SeekeRuk

so you want people to turn off the reason why the ps3 is a good blu ray player, it the reason i got thing 1080/24 is a must have to stop the judder 1.3 hdmi.

lol it's like saying if you want fast fps on a pc put all the rez and setting to low imo rofl.

Okay, first off, if you are not wanting to play movies, then I do not see how it is a problem to disable those options, then turn them on when needed.

And secondly, Turning the resolution and settings down to the lowest possible options on the PC will still make the games look comparable to the consoles.

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The following improvements should be made for better and smoother framerates for ps3 games:

Setting the BD/DVD upscaler set off, HDMI 24fps off, HDMI audio set on bitstream, PS2 upscaler/smoother set off.

Disable system display notify/ mediaserver off / all other automatic setting set to off / internet disable if not multiplaying and other setting etc will all help improve framerates.

Happy Holidays.

Fruity_mixer

Just set ur ps3 off. For better framerates play games on 360.



Can't have better framerates without a working console.
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The following improvements should be made for better and smoother framerates for ps3 games:

Setting the BD/DVD upscaler set off, HDMI 24fps off, HDMI audio set on bitstream, PS2 upscaler/smoother set off.

Disable system display notify/ mediaserver off / all other automatic setting set to off / internet disable if not multiplaying and other setting etc will all help improve framerates.

Happy Holidays.

Fruity_mixer

Just set ur ps3 off. For better framerates play games on 360.

Lol, good one.

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The following improvements should be made for better and smoother framerates for ps3 games:

Setting the BD/DVD upscaler set off, HDMI 24fps off, HDMI audio set on bitstream, PS2 upscaler/smoother set off.

Disable system display notify/ mediaserver off / all other automatic setting set to off / internet disable if not multiplaying and other setting etc will all help improve framerates.

Happy Holidays.

0gramaticERRORS

are you that -Renegade- dude?

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The following improvements should be made for better and smoother framerates for ps3 games:

Setting the BD/DVD upscaler set off, HDMI 24fps off, HDMI audio set on bitstream, PS2 upscaler/smoother set off.

Disable system display notify/ mediaserver off / all other automatic setting set to off / internet disable if not multiplaying and other setting etc will all help improve framerates.

Happy Holidays.

F-14Bombcat

so you want people to turn off the reason why the ps3 is a good blu ray player, it the reason i got thing 1080/24 is a must have to stop the judder 1.3 hdmi.

lol it's like saying if you want fast fps on a pc put all the rez and setting to low imo rofl.

Okay, first off, if you are not wanting to play movies, then I do not see how it is a problem to disable those options, then turn them on when needed.

And secondly, Turning the resolution and settings down to the lowest possible options on the PC will still make the games look comparable to the consoles.

i should not have to turn things on and off if i wanna do things :/, sound like the ps3 can not handle whats it was surpose to i think!

not looking good this.

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The following improvements should be made for better and smoother framerates for ps3 games:

Setting the BD/DVD upscaler set off, HDMI 24fps off, HDMI audio set on bitstream, PS2 upscaler/smoother set off.

Disable system display notify/ mediaserver off / all other automatic setting set to off / internet disable if not multiplaying and other setting etc will all help improve framerates.

Happy Holidays.

Fruity_mixer

Just set ur ps3 off. For better framerates play games on 360.

LMFAO

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[QUOTE="Fruity_mixer"][QUOTE="0gramaticERRORS"]

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The following improvements should be made for better and smoother framerates for ps3 games:

Setting the BD/DVD upscaler set off, HDMI 24fps off, HDMI audio set on bitstream, PS2 upscaler/smoother set off.

Disable system display notify/ mediaserver off / all other automatic setting set to off / internet disable if not multiplaying and other setting etc will all help improve framerates.

Happy Holidays.

kingfire11

Just set ur ps3 off. For better framerates play games on 360.

LMFAO

:lol:Indeed

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The following improvements should be made for better and smoother framerates for ps3 games:

Setting the BD/DVD upscaler set off, HDMI 24fps off, HDMI audio set on bitstream, PS2 upscaler/smoother set off.

Disable system display notify/ mediaserver off / all other automatic setting set to off / internet disable if not multiplaying and other setting etc will all help improve framerates.

Happy Holidays.

mingo123

are you that -Renegade- dude?

no he's that kewii/infamousc/renegade dude....

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#16 Runningflame570
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no he's that kewii/infamousc/renegade dude....

Bchmedic28

Having been here for some time I can safely say that given their different posting styles infamousC and -Renegade- at the minimum are different people and KeyWii probably is a different person from Renegade as well, though there are a couple of similarities..

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The following improvements should be made for better and smoother framerates for ps3 games:

Setting the BD/DVD upscaler set off, HDMI 24fps off, HDMI audio set on bitstream, PS2 upscaler/smoother set off.

Disable system display notify/ mediaserver off / all other automatic setting set to off / internet disable if not multiplaying and other setting etc will all help improve framerates.

Happy Holidays.

Fruity_mixer

Just set ur ps3 off. For better framerates play games on 360.

No thanks I'll stay away from the "Copy Sony's PS3 features 1 by 1 company".

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#18 BobHipJames
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Or improve your framerates by buying a 360 with its UMA.lazerluke

http://research.scea.com/ps3_deferred_shading.pdf

"The system's unified memory architecture allows
the Cell/B.E. and GPU to exchange data through shared textures."

Would you like some fries with your failure today?

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[QUOTE="Fruity_mixer"][QUOTE="0gramaticERRORS"]

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The following improvements should be made for better and smoother framerates for ps3 games:

Setting the BD/DVD upscaler set off, HDMI 24fps off, HDMI audio set on bitstream, PS2 upscaler/smoother set off.

Disable system display notify/ mediaserver off / all other automatic setting set to off / internet disable if not multiplaying and other setting etc will all help improve framerates.

Happy Holidays.

casey7672

Just set ur ps3 off. For better framerates play games on 360.

No thanks I'll stay away from the "Copy Sony's PS3 features 1 by 1 company".

Sony just steals all of its stuff from Nintendo, though.... Sony is still getting their ass kicked so it doesn't matter.
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The following improvements should be made for better and smoother framerates for ps3 games:

Setting the BD/DVD upscaler set off, HDMI 24fps off, HDMI audio set on bitstream, PS2 upscaler/smoother set off.

Disable system display notify/ mediaserver off / all other automatic setting set to off / internet disable if not multiplaying and other setting etc will all help improve framerates.

Happy Holidays.

Fruity_mixer

Just set ur ps3 off. For better framerates play games on 360.

:lol: thats sig worthy
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The following improvements should be made for better and smoother framerates for ps3 games:

Setting the BD/DVD upscaler set off, HDMI 24fps off, HDMI audio set on bitstream, PS2 upscaler/smoother set off.

Disable system display notify/ mediaserver off / all other automatic setting set to off / internet disable if not multiplaying and other setting etc will all help improve framerates.

Happy Holidays.

Fruity_mixer

Just set ur ps3 off. For better framerates play games on 360.

Wow, you arent Pathetic are you.

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#22 casey7672
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[QUOTE="casey7672"][QUOTE="Fruity_mixer"][QUOTE="0gramaticERRORS"]

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The following improvements should be made for better and smoother framerates for ps3 games:

Setting the BD/DVD upscaler set off, HDMI 24fps off, HDMI audio set on bitstream, PS2 upscaler/smoother set off.

Disable system display notify/ mediaserver off / all other automatic setting set to off / internet disable if not multiplaying and other setting etc will all help improve framerates.

Happy Holidays.

DivergeUnify

Just set ur ps3 off. For better framerates play games on 360.

No thanks I'll stay away from the "Copy Sony's PS3 features 1 by 1 company".

Sony just steals all of its stuff from Nintendo, though.... Sony is still getting their ass kicked so it doesn't matter.

Funny we've got a Wii in the basement. I didn't know it had HDMI, BR drive, rechargable controllers, WiFi, and memory stick slots. Nint can have its crappy motion sensing, crappy online, andgame cube graphicsand stick it where the sun don't shine.

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#23 LuvGaming
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This thread is a joke! Anyways, if you want to avoid low fps, don't buy games from EA or any other game from developers that don't know how to dev correctly on the PS3.

Btw, both Ratchet and COD 4run @ 60fps so I don't think the PS3 is the cause for low fps in certain games.

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Sony just steals all of its stuff from Nintendo, though.... Sony is still getting their ass kicked so it doesn't matter.
DivergeUnify

Sony is the only company in the console wars who actually invests in new and/or upcoming technologies, Microsoft is a convicted software pirate and has a long history of ripping off people's ideas and then trying to patent them, Nintendo just uses old technologies in all their systems.

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confirmed nons3ense
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[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="casey7672"][QUOTE="Fruity_mixer"][QUOTE="0gramaticERRORS"]

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The following improvements should be made for better and smoother framerates for ps3 games:

Setting the BD/DVD upscaler set off, HDMI 24fps off, HDMI audio set on bitstream, PS2 upscaler/smoother set off.

Disable system display notify/ mediaserver off / all other automatic setting set to off / internet disable if not multiplaying and other setting etc will all help improve framerates.

Happy Holidays.

casey7672

Just set ur ps3 off. For better framerates play games on 360.

No thanks I'll stay away from the "Copy Sony's PS3 features 1 by 1 company".

Sony just steals all of its stuff from Nintendo, though.... Sony is still getting their ass kicked so it doesn't matter.

Funny we've got a Wii in the basement. I didn't know it had HDMI, BR drive, rechargable controllers, WiFi, and memory stick slots. Nint can have its crappy motion sensing, crappy online, andgame cube graphicsand stick it where the sun don't shine.

but your PS3 stole the motion sensing (SIXAXIS says hi!), but the big diffrent is WiiMote is away better than the sixaxis, that was proved by Lair.

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#27 BobHipJames
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The Wiimote is better, as proved by Medal of Honor on the Wii?

To quote Game Informer: On the PS2, it's mediocre, but on the Wii, it's terrible.

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For better Framerate on your PS3 - Turn Television OFF
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[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="casey7672"][QUOTE="Fruity_mixer"][QUOTE="0gramaticERRORS"]

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The following improvements should be made for better and smoother framerates for ps3 games:

Setting the BD/DVD upscaler set off, HDMI 24fps off, HDMI audio set on bitstream, PS2 upscaler/smoother set off.

Disable system display notify/ mediaserver off / all other automatic setting set to off / internet disable if not multiplaying and other setting etc will all help improve framerates.

Happy Holidays.

casey7672

Just set ur ps3 off. For better framerates play games on 360.

No thanks I'll stay away from the "Copy Sony's PS3 features 1 by 1 company".

Sony just steals all of its stuff from Nintendo, though.... Sony is still getting their ass kicked so it doesn't matter.

Funny we've got a Wii in the basement. I didn't know it had HDMI, BR drive, rechargable controllers, WiFi, and memory stick slots. Nint can have its crappy motion sensing, crappy online, andgame cube graphicsand stick it where the sun don't shine.

HDMI, rechargable controllers? WHOA! COOL :o

:lol: Rechargable controllers is just a dumb way of saying "we weren't cool enough to put in changable batteries so once the battery gets drained you just have to buy a new one"

And the Wii has SD slots and WiFi :|

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#30 Runningflame570
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HDMI, rechargable controllers? WHOA! COOL :o

:lol: Rechargable controllers is just a dumb way of saying "we weren't cool enough to put in changable batteries so once the battery gets drained you just have to buy a new one"

And the Wii has SD slots and WiFi :|

DivergeUnify

Actually rechargable batteries are a way to save you $20-30 on a seperate rechargable battery pack or alternatively possibly as much as $100 on normal alkaline batteries.

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#31 DivergeUnify
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HDMI, rechargable controllers? WHOA! COOL :o

:lol: Rechargable controllers is just a dumb way of saying "we weren't cool enough to put in changable batteries so once the battery gets drained you just have to buy a new one"

And the Wii has SD slots and WiFi :|

Runningflame570

Actually rechargable batteries are a way to save you $20-30 on a seperate rechargable battery pack or alternatively possibly as much as $100 on normal alkaline batteries.

You can buy recharagable batteries for the Wii controller since... you know you're not forced to use pathetic, non-removable battery packs.
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ill pass and play my 360 thanks i don't like to play BeHind
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#33 Runningflame570
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You can buy recharagable batteries for the Wii controller since... you know you're not forced to use pathetic, non-removable battery packs.
DivergeUnify

I would still argue the PS3 controller is very much the better value. If you consider the Wiimote and Nunchuck as a controller thats $10 above the cost of the other two and thats before the cost of the battery packs.

Also its worth mentioning that at the theoretical 40 hours per charge you are looking at better than a year and a half of constant playtime before the battery pack kicks the bucket.

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#34 DivergeUnify
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[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]You can buy recharagable batteries for the Wii controller since... you know you're not forced to use pathetic, non-removable battery packs.
Runningflame570

I would still argue the PS3 controller is very much the better value. If you consider the Wiimote and Nunchuck as a controller thats $10 above the cost of the other two and thats before the cost of the battery packs.

Also its worth mentioning that at the theoretical 40 hours per charge you are looking at better than a year and a half of constant playtime before the battery pack kicks the bucket.

a year and a half of constant play time? uhhh no

that charge will most likely get cut down to 20 after a few months and once the new rumble controllers kick in, well it'll go down even lower.

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#35 osan0
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[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]Sony just steals all of its stuff from Nintendo, though.... Sony is still getting their ass kicked so it doesn't matter.
Runningflame570

Sony is the only company in the console wars who actually invests in new and/or upcoming technologies, Microsoft is a convicted software pirate and has a long history of ripping off people's ideas and then trying to patent them, Nintendo just uses old technologies in all their systems.

playing devils advocate here a bit

on ure first bit about sony, they invest alot in hardware allright, wouldnt it be great though if some of that went to creating some dedicated games hardware, not multimedia centers? would tn it also be nice if they invested more in software for devs to make their lives easier.

i also have to pull u up on the ninty comment. the wii is certainyl way behind the PS3 and 360, but nintendo have not, by any means, always used old hardware and tech. the N64 was extreemly sophisticated for its time. it could easilt pound the PS1 silly and was the most powerful console of its time. then theres the GC which was the finest console ever built (shame nintys head was in the clouds in other areas). very fast and extreemly efficent, the console was relatively easy to make games for according to devs and it was alot more sophisitcated than the PS2 and was knows to give the xbox a run for its money at times. nintendo have done there fair share in investing in new tech and bringing hardware foreward in the past. they stopped simply because only 25 million ppl wanted powerful nintendo hardware.

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[QUOTE="kingfire11"][QUOTE="Fruity_mixer"][QUOTE="0gramaticERRORS"]

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The following improvements should be made for better and smoother framerates for ps3 games:

Setting the BD/DVD upscaler set off, HDMI 24fps off, HDMI audio set on bitstream, PS2 upscaler/smoother set off.

Disable system display notify/ mediaserver off / all other automatic setting set to off / internet disable if not multiplaying and other setting etc will all help improve framerates.

Happy Holidays.

Pro_wrestler

Just set ur ps3 off. For better framerates play games on 360.

LMFAO

:lol:Indeed

[QUOTE="Fruity_mixer"][QUOTE="0gramaticERRORS"]

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The following improvements should be made for better and smoother framerates for ps3 games:

Setting the BD/DVD upscaler set off, HDMI 24fps off, HDMI audio set on bitstream, PS2 upscaler/smoother set off.

Disable system display notify/ mediaserver off / all other automatic setting set to off / internet disable if not multiplaying and other setting etc will all help improve framerates.

Happy Holidays.

Dante2710

Just set ur ps3 off. For better framerates play games on 360.

:lol: thats sig worthy

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The following improvements should be made for better and smoother framerates for ps3 games:

Setting the BD/DVD upscaler set off, HDMI 24fps off, HDMI audio set on bitstream, PS2 upscaler/smoother set off.

Disable system display notify/ mediaserver off / all other automatic setting set to off / internet disable if not multiplaying and other setting etc will all help improve framerates.

Happy Holidays.

Fruity_mixer

Just set ur ps3 off. For better framerates play games on 360.

Good laugh there.

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#37 Runningflame570
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a year and a half of constant play time? uhhh no

that charge will most likely get cut down to 20 after a few months and once the new rumble controllers kick in, well it'll go down even lower.

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Lithium Ion doesn't have the memory effect like NiCad and NiMH (one of which is what the 360 and Wii battery packs use) does. Lithium Ion has the best weight to charge ratio and can go through approximately 300 cycles before dying. By doing some quick math I've determined that there are 8736 hours in a year, at 40 hours per charge for 300 charges thats 12,000 continous hours, so while I overestimated some thats still well over a year of continuous playtime. Even assuming 32 hours thats still 9600 hours..once again, more than a year of continuous playtime.

playing devils advocate here a bit

on ure first bit about sony, they invest alot in hardware allright, wouldnt it be great though if some of that went to creating some dedicated games hardware, not multimedia centers? would tn it also be nice if they invested more in software for devs to make their lives easier.

i also have to pull u up on the ninty comment. the wii is certainyl way behind the PS3 and 360, but nintendo have not, by any means, always used old hardware and tech. the N64 was extreemly sophisticated for its time. it could easilt pound the PS1 silly and was the most powerful console of its time. then theres the GC which was the finest console ever built (shame nintys head was in the clouds in other areas). very fast and extreemly efficent, the console was relatively easy to make games for according to devs and it was alot more sophisitcated than the PS2 and was knows to give the xbox a run for its money at times. nintendo have done there fair share in investing in new tech and bringing hardware foreward in the past. they stopped simply because only 25 million ppl wanted powerful nintendo hardware.

osan0

Your post isn't really that relevant to innovation in the first part, but I'll play along.

All game systems today have a lot of extra features beyond merely playing games, even the original Gameboy had additional things that you could buy to provide extra functionality, the GBA has video cartridges, NDS has a MP3 player you can purchase, Xbox and Xbox 360 both have a lot of additional features aside from games.

Would it be okay for them to invest in purely gaming hardware? Sure, but given the nature of their business and the general trend towards convergent devices this is unlikely and the same is true of Microsoft and Nintendo who have additional functionality as well.

Nintendo as a company has a history of reusing old ideas, they do this often in new or different ways but the fact remains. The N64 was sophisticated in a lot of ways but it was built using a cutdown version of a pre-existing CPU and a storage format that was obsolete upon release. The Gamecube Game Discs were in some ways innovative, but they were actually developed by and based upon pre-existing Matsushita technology.

Nintendo doesn't invest in new technology, they invest in tweaking old technology and they often perfect it in some respect but it is still very much based upon pre-existing technology. Sony for better or worse has taken part in developing a lot of different new technologies. They developed the first HD camcorder, they are the first to bring Li-On batteries to market, they are going to be the first to bring OLED to market, they developed the first real cassette tape, they co-created CDs and contributed to DVD, they co-developed S/PDIF (which bears their name), developed 3.5 inch floppy discs...need I go on?

Sony is no doubt a more innovative company than Nintendo in the hardware sector at least, the difference is that they tend to do all their innovation with hardware rather than hardware IMPLEMENTATIONS and thats the differentiating factor.