For consoles, Sony PS3 is and has been the best deal in gaming this generation.

tl:dr

Summary: PS3 is better.

tl:dr

Summary: PS3 is better.

Blue-Sky

tl:dr

Summary: PS3 is better.

Blue-Sky

I just skimmed through but there are a few things you got wrong. I'm ignoring the Wii too.

1) The 360 controller is 5 dollars cheaper and arguebly the better of the two and six axis is rarely used, and even then in most cases it's not even more useful than just using the sticks or buttons (like turning valves in Killzone). You have to buy a rechareable battery pack true, but the battery life of it is much longer than what the PS3 has.

2) You said 360 using P2P, what? Publishers decide to use dedicated servers or P2P. EA and THQ use dedicated servers on both systems for example. A developer will never use dedicated on one but not the other. Sony uses dedicated servers for their games, and Microsoft has begun using dedicated too, Gears 3 and Forza 4 will both have dedicated servers.

3) You can use Keyboards with the Xbox too, just plug it into the USB port and viola.

4) You do not have to use Microsoft branded headsets, you can buy turtle beaches or gigaware or even those cheapo Chinese headsets that cost 2 bucks on ebay.

5) Okay, maybe you think a blueray drive is better than an extra 90GB, but that 250gb xbox system is currently bundled with Forza 3 and Alan Wake while the PS3 isn't bundled with anything. Blueray players do not cost that much anymore. It also has a superior built in wifi adapter which is faster and keeps a more stable connnection. It is also bundled with a headset which counters the argument you made about the PS3 controller having bulit in batteries.

6) XBL does not cost 60 a year if you are smart. There are constantly XBL deals on the dashboard, on Amazon, in Wallmart, somewhere it will be at a discount. I got a full year for 30 dollars during an XBL promotion around the Halo Reach launch on the Xbox dashboard itself. Also, if you forget about the price, XBL is significantly the better service. Whether it's worth the price is subjective.

jesus....that wall is so tall the chinese would be impressed

I just skimmed through but there are a few things you got wrong. I'm ignoring the Wii too.

1) The 360 controller is 5 dollars cheaper and arguebly the better of the two and six axis is rarely used, and even then in most cases it's not even more useful than just using buttons would be (like turning valves in Killzone). You have to buy a rechareable battery pack true, but the battery life of it is much longer than what the PS3 has.

2) You said 360 using P2P, what? Publishers decide to use dedicated servers or P2P. EA and THQ use dedicated servers on both systems for example. A developer will never use dedicated on one but not the other. Sony uses dedicated servers for their games, and Microsoft has begun using dedicated too, Gears 3 and Forza 4 will both have dedicated servers.

3) You can use Keyboards witht the Xbox too, just plug it into the USB port and viola.

4) You do not have to use Microsoft branded headsets, you can buy turtle beaches or gigaware or even those cheapo Chinese headsets that cost 2 bucks on ebay.

5) Okay, maybe you think a blueray drive is better than an extra 90GB, but that 250gb xbox system is currently bundled with Forza 3 and Alan Wake while the PS3 isn't bundled with anything. Blueray players do not cost that much anymore. It also has a superior built in wifi adapter which is faster and has a better connection. It is also bundled with a headset which counters the argument you made about the PS3 controller having bulit in batteries.

6) XBL does not cost 60 a year if you are smart. There are constatly XBL deals on the dashboard, on Amazon, in Wallmart, somewhere where it will be at a discount. I got a full year for 30 dollars during an XBL promotion around the Halo Reach launch on the Xbox dashboard itself. Also, if you forget about the price, XBL is significatly the better service. Whether it's worth the price is subjective.

Hazzard6X

thank you saved me lots of time..

I just skimmed through but there are a few things you got wrong. I'm ignoring the Wii too.

1) The 360 controller is 5 dollars cheaper and arguebly the better of the two and six axis is rarely used, and even then in most cases it's not even more useful than just using the sticks or buttons (like turning valves in Killzone). You have to buy a rechareable battery pack true, but the battery life of it is much longer than what the PS3 has.

2) You said 360 using P2P, what? Publishers decide to use dedicated servers or P2P. EA and THQ use dedicated servers on both systems for example. A developer will never use dedicated on one but not the other. Sony uses dedicated servers for their games, and Microsoft has begun using dedicated too, Gears 3 and Forza 4 will both have dedicated servers.

3) You can use Keyboards with the Xbox too, just plug it into the USB port and viola.

4) You do not have to use Microsoft branded headsets, you can buy turtle beaches or gigaware or even those cheapo Chinese headsets that cost 2 bucks on ebay.

5) Okay, maybe you think a blueray drive is better than an extra 90GB, but that 250gb xbox system is currently bundled with Forza 3 and Alan Wake while the PS3 isn't bundled with anything. Blueray players do not cost that much anymore. It also has a superior built in wifi adapter which is faster and keeps a more stable connnection. It is also bundled with a headset which counters the argument you made about the PS3 controller having bulit in batteries.

6) XBL does not cost 60 a year if you are smart. There are constantly XBL deals on the dashboard, on Amazon, in Wallmart, somewhere it will be at a discount. I got a full year for 30 dollars during an XBL promotion around the Halo Reach launch on the Xbox dashboard itself. Also, if you forget about the price, XBL is significantly the better service. Whether it's worth the price is subjective.

Hazzard6X

1. The technology in the PS3 controller is more advanced because of the Sixaxis. The implementation of it in games is really irrelevant to this point. I don't care how long the batteries last. The PS3 controller comes with a rechargable lithium battery and the 360/Wii doesn't.

2. My point exactly. The performance of games online is up to the developers choice to use P2P or dedicated servers combined with their netcode. So remind me, what is the cost for Xbox Live again considering it doesn't affect online performance?

3. That's weird, I tried it and it didn't work. You sure about that?

4. Those Turtle Beach head sets are even more expensive than the Microsoft brand head sets.

5. I just checked Costco, Best Buy, WalMart and Target online, and I don't see Alan Wake or Forza bundled with any $300 dollar 360, so I don't know what you're talking about on this one. They don't come with any games. I'm not talking about finding special deals on no name websites through non reputable companies, I'm talking about the comparison of products and their prices as if you were to buy them from the manufacturers directly. My 4gb 360 console did not come with a headset, I had to buy one separately.

6. Again, 30 dollars, 60 dollars, neither of them are worth cross game voice chat IMO. Microsoft asks for 60 bucks for a year of Xbox Live, so I just say 60 bucks.

Its pretty good bang for your buck. I admittedly got mine for MGS4 and a Blu-Ray player. But its got a lot of good games. I think a lot of it boils down to your preference in games. I personally enjoy Halo and Gears more than most of the PS3 exclusives, but again that's just me.

For me personally, the 360 is the better console. For one thing, I already had a Blu-Ray player at the time I bought a 360, so I didn't need the Blu-Ray player in the PS3. Also, there aren't really any games on the PS3 which interest me. Some of my favorite games for the 360 (I've had the 360 for almost a year and a half) have included such titles as Splinter Cell: Conviction, Alan Wake, and Halo: Reach, all of which are only on the 360 and/or PC. I have plenty of multiplats (my recent favorites being Dead Space 2 and LA Noire).

I have a ps3 and I disagree PSN is horrible especially when you are forced on having a wireless connection...

I always despise when a game update comes because psn is so unreliable...

For you perhaps, but for others it is the 360. And for others it is the Wii. I use mostly only the Wii and PC this gen despite owning the all systems.

I have a ps3 and I disagree PSN is horrible especially when you are forced on having a wireless connection...

I always despise when a game update comes because psn is so unreliable...

fueled-system

I'm seriously pissed at Sony this gen. I've had to replace two PS3s, and now my third is currently not working. I've sent it in to be fixed under warranty twice, got it back both times still not working. Their customer service is atrocious. I had one 360 RRoD, and had a new one in a week (which is very fast as I live in HI and it usually takes a while for stuff to get here) with a month free of Live thrown in. In addition to these problems, I've had to throw away two DS controllers when they died because I hadn't used them in many months (they did not work plugged in either).

This is not to mention Sony's lackluster security measures that compromised my personal information to criminals which caused me much hassle as someone tried to get into my Steam account and also made charges on my card. PSN-you get what you pay for. I've had an extraordianarily bad experience with Sony this generation, and were it not for some exclusives I wouldn't give them the time of day. I'm trying my best to find any way to not support them, but they have some great games coming out, so I really have no choice.

The "best deal" this gen has cost me hundreds and hundreds of dollars. They've REALLY pissed me off.

I have a ps3 and I disagree PSN is horrible especially when you are forced on having a wireless connection...

I always despise when a game update comes because psn is so unreliable...

fueled-system

I have 360 and PS3...my 360 is my iPOD basicaly lol and for exclusives...I enjoy the people on PS3 waaaaayyyy better...on 360 its mostly screaming kids with thier crappy mics that come with the game...seems to be a older sometimes more mature crowd on PS3...the deal breaker IMO is the Blu RAY though...you cant go wrong with a more advanced console if money isnt a issue even though the Xbox does have alot of hidden fees and ends up being almost the same if not more then the PS3 overtime

[QUOTE="Hazzard6X"]

I just skimmed through but there are a few things you got wrong. I'm ignoring the Wii too.

1) The 360 controller is 5 dollars cheaper and arguebly the better of the two and six axis is rarely used, and even then in most cases it's not even more useful than just using the sticks or buttons (like turning valves in Killzone). You have to buy a rechareable battery pack true, but the battery life of it is much longer than what the PS3 has.

2) You said 360 using P2P, what? Publishers decide to use dedicated servers or P2P. EA and THQ use dedicated servers on both systems for example. A developer will never use dedicated on one but not the other. Sony uses dedicated servers for their games, and Microsoft has begun using dedicated too, Gears 3 and Forza 4 will both have dedicated servers.

3) You can use Keyboards with the Xbox too, just plug it into the USB port and viola.

4) You do not have to use Microsoft branded headsets, you can buy turtle beaches or gigaware or even those cheapo Chinese headsets that cost 2 bucks on ebay.

5) Okay, maybe you think a blueray drive is better than an extra 90GB, but that 250gb xbox system is currently bundled with Forza 3 and Alan Wake while the PS3 isn't bundled with anything. Blueray players do not cost that much anymore. It also has a superior built in wifi adapter which is faster and keeps a more stable connnection. It is also bundled with a headset which counters the argument you made about the PS3 controller having bulit in batteries.

6) XBL does not cost 60 a year if you are smart. There are constantly XBL deals on the dashboard, on Amazon, in Wallmart, somewhere it will be at a discount. I got a full year for 30 dollars during an XBL promotion around the Halo Reach launch on the Xbox dashboard itself. Also, if you forget about the price, XBL is significantly the better service. Whether it's worth the price is subjective.

arkephonic

1. The technology in the PS3 controller is more advanced because of the Sixaxis. The implementation of it in games is really irrelevant to this point. I don't care how long the batteries last. The PS3 controller comes with a rechargable lithium battery and the 360/Wii doesn't.

2. My point exactly. The performance of games online is up to the developers choice to use P2P or dedicated servers combined with their netcode. So remind me, what is the cost for Xbox Live again considering it doesn't affect online performance?

3. That's weird, I tried it and it didn't work. You sure about that?

4. Those Turtle Beach head sets are even more expensive than the Microsoft brand head sets.

5. I just checked Costco, Best Buy, WalMart and Target online, and I don't see Alan Wake or Forza bundled with any $300 dollar 360, so I don't know what you're talking about on this one. They don't come with any games. I'm not talking about finding special deals on no name websites through non reputable companies, I'm talking about the comparison of products and their prices as if you were to buy them from the manufacturers directly. My 4gb 360 console did not come with a headset, I had to buy one separately.

6. Again, 30 dollars, 60 dollars, neither of them are worth cross game voice chat IMO. Microsoft asks for 60 bucks for a year of Xbox Live, so I just say 60 bucks.

It depends when you bought it.

For me, a launch owner, it has been the worst investment in a console i've ever made.

It sat un-used for the best part of a year and a halfwaiting for them to release something I wanted to play. The controller shoulder buttons SUCKED and I had to go and buy some dual shock 3's just to put some weight and rumble back into them so they didn't feel like flimsy plastic junk.

Maybe if you bought one now it might be, MIGHT be.

Also, Bluray is overated and the monsterous cost of movies on the format (slowly getting better) put me right off.

The PS3 is better, but I dun have to post that in a forum to prove my point.

It's my favorite console too. Nevertheless, at the end of the day it's really all subjective. I can envision scenarios and reasons why a person would prefer any of the platforms. It just depends on what you value and what you like.

Personally the PC is my favorite platform, followed by the PS3, then the 360, then the Wii.

It depends when you bought it.

For me, a launch owner, it has been the worst investment in a console i've ever made.

It sat un-used for the best part of a year and a halfwaiting for them to release something I wanted to play. The controller shoulder buttons SUCKED and I had to go and buy some dual shock 3's just to put some weight and rumble back into them so they didn't feel like flimsy plastic junk.

Maybe if you bought one now it might be, MIGHT be.

Also, Bluray is overated and the monsterous cost of movies on the format (slowly getting better) put me right off.

1080pOnly

I like that youre user name is 1080Ponly but think that bluray is overated.. lol

on topic. i buy most of my games for the PS3 because i have 7.1 surround and online is free. but for what the consoles can do they are just about even, and I enjoy playing both:)

And I don't think you're arguing that, so I feel the same way that i get more from the PS3 than my 360, but maybe that's because I buy both my games and movies for that system:)

Definitely not the best deal in gaming this generation. For the first 3 years of the PS3's life it was one of the worst deals in gaming ever. It was way over priced, and it had virtually no games.

Only since the price drop and Slim release has the PS3 been a good deal. So if you argued that since 2009 the PS3 has been the best deal in gaming I could accept that, but not this whole generation.

Only in the 2nd half.

The 360 was better from 2005 to 2007.In 2008,they were equal.Right now,the PS3 is the best console.

edit: Derp!Forgot that the ps3 was released in 2006.Still,the 360 was better in 2005 as it was the first next-gen system:P

tl:dr

Summary: PS3 is better.

Blue-Sky

Sorry but I own a PC/PS3/Xbox360 and most of the 'features' on PS3 are irrealavent to gaming and are done better on the PC. The PC will always be the best deal in gaming...

I just skimmed through but there are a few things you got wrong. I'm ignoring the Wii too.

1) The 360 controller is 5 dollars cheaper and arguebly the better of the two and six axis is rarely used, and even then in most cases it's not even more useful than just using the sticks or buttons (like turning valves in Killzone). You have to buy a rechareable battery pack true, but the battery life of it is much longer than what the PS3 has.

2) You said 360 using P2P, what? Publishers decide to use dedicated servers or P2P. EA and THQ use dedicated servers on both systems for example. A developer will never use dedicated on one but not the other. Sony uses dedicated servers for their games, and Microsoft has begun using dedicated too, Gears 3 and Forza 4 will both have dedicated servers.

3) You can use Keyboards with the Xbox too, just plug it into the USB port and viola.

4) You do not have to use Microsoft branded headsets, you can buy turtle beaches or gigaware or even those cheapo Chinese headsets that cost 2 bucks on ebay.

5) Okay, maybe you think a blueray drive is better than an extra 90GB, but that 250gb xbox system is currently bundled with Forza 3 and Alan Wake while the PS3 isn't bundled with anything. Blueray players do not cost that much anymore. It also has a superior built in wifi adapter which is faster and keeps a more stable connnection. It is also bundled with a headset which counters the argument you made about the PS3 controller having bulit in batteries.

6) XBL does not cost 60 a year if you are smart. There are constantly XBL deals on the dashboard, on Amazon, in Wallmart, somewhere it will be at a discount. I got a full year for 30 dollars during an XBL promotion around the Halo Reach launch on the Xbox dashboard itself. Also, if you forget about the price, XBL is significantly the better service. Whether it's worth the price is subjective.

Hazzard6X

As a gaming machine, it definitely isn't.

Sorry but I own a PC/PS3/Xbox360 and most of the 'features' on PS3 are irrealavent to gaming and are done better on the PC. The PC will always be the best deal in gaming...

KevinnButlerNPK

Overall, it's pretty indisputable that the PS3 is the more fully-featured system (slightly). Heck, it may even be the better system. It is, however, hard to beat the 360 in value as a gaming machine. $199 to get you in the door with a huge library of games sounds like a decent deal to me.romans828_2002

I just skimmed through but there are a few things you got wrong. I'm ignoring the Wii too.

1) The 360 controller is 5 dollars cheaper and arguebly the better of the two and six axis is rarely used, and even then in most cases it's not even more useful than just using the sticks or buttons (like turning valves in Killzone). You have to buy a rechareable battery pack true, but the battery life of it is much longer than what the PS3 has.

2) You said 360 using P2P, what? Publishers decide to use dedicated servers or P2P. EA and THQ use dedicated servers on both systems for example. A developer will never use dedicated on one but not the other. Sony uses dedicated servers for their games, and Microsoft has begun using dedicated too, Gears 3 and Forza 4 will both have dedicated servers.

3) You can use Keyboards with the Xbox too, just plug it into the USB port and viola.

4) You do not have to use Microsoft branded headsets, you can buy turtle beaches or gigaware or even those cheapo Chinese headsets that cost 2 bucks on ebay.

5) Okay, maybe you think a blueray drive is better than an extra 90GB, but that 250gb xbox system is currently bundled with Forza 3 and Alan Wake while the PS3 isn't bundled with anything. Blueray players do not cost that much anymore. It also has a superior built in wifi adapter which is faster and keeps a more stable connnection. It is also bundled with a headset which counters the argument you made about the PS3 controller having bulit in batteries.

6) XBL does not cost 60 a year if you are smart. There are constantly XBL deals on the dashboard, on Amazon, in Wallmart, somewhere it will be at a discount. I got a full year for 30 dollars during an XBL promotion around the Halo Reach launch on the Xbox dashboard itself. Also, if you forget about the price, XBL is significantly the better service. Whether it's worth the price is subjective.

Hazzard6X

Lets see, nope the pc is

Steam

I can have blueray too

1tb hd, pff only 250 gb

4 gb of ram

true 1080p

I disagree whole heartedly... I have yet to find a reason why I should own a ps3. If I find one I'll buy it. nothing yet. too expensive this far into the generation, inferior online and the multiplats look better most of the time on 360 and ps3 exclusives dont warrent a 400 dollar purchase. sorry, thats just my opinion.

Sorry but I own a PC/PS3/Xbox360 and most of the 'features' on PS3 are irrealavent to gaming and are done better on the PC. The PC will always be the best deal in gaming...

KevinnButlerNPK

Lets see, nope the pc is

Steam

I can have blueray too

1tb hd, pff only 250 gb

4 gb of ram

true 1080p

James161324

2) Few publishers use servers on 360, you name 2 out of what more than 200 developers out there? Xbox live has been pay to play since it started, and the great majority of games had been P2P, which mean you use your own connection, and your own console with your own game to host a game, which cost MS absolutely nothing. Yet they charge you for it $60 dollars a year. Now gears and PGR4 will use server, yay maybe now Gears will stop having once and for all host advantages issues.tormentos

You don't know how servers, etc., works, do you? Do you honestly believe that they come cheap & believe that it costs MS next to nothing to run Xbox Live at all? If so, then I got to laugh at you.

Same goes for Sony with PSN. Do you know that they lose money off of their online entertainment division by offering PSN for free? Same with Nintendo with Wiiware. Sure, online play for those two consoles of Wii & PS3 are free, but they do come with a price or with risks on having free online on closed gaming platforms, such as 3rd party developers have to pay money out of their own pockets to provide servers.

Heck, even Sega used to charge people online with SegaNet for Dreamcast (& Sega Saturn, but for Japan only) monthly, plus there are even subscriptions for World of Warcraft.

[QUOTE="KevinnButlerNPK"]

Sorry but I own a PC/PS3/Xbox360 and most of the 'features' on PS3 are irrealavent to gaming and are done better on the PC. The PC will always be the best deal in gaming...

call_of_duty_10

Lets see, nope the pc is

Steam

I can have blueray too

1tb hd, pff only 250 gb

4 gb of ram

true 1080p

James161324