For those who say "Gaming is an expensive hobby...get used to it."

Please explain your side of the story.

FIRST: I'm not saying I'm against fair pricing. BUT, for example, lets say company A wants to sella DLC of different car colors for $15. Or something that 1) should have been in the game, and 2) is priced high for what it is to begin with.

Lets just say for arguments sake you know the situation I'm talking about. There are those who say it's just the way it is. Then there are those who find holes in the common sense of that.

I find those that say "Get used to it....developers deserve every penny!!"a little out of touch.

So I have one comment on this and then read some of the discussion: Do those, who are for high prices, think that those developers and publishers would help you out in a time of need? If you got fired, lost your home, counldn't afford to eat.......do you think they would help you out? They don't care.

Remember I'm talking about instances where the pricing is stupid. Not, Bungie who I hear listens to their community, then puts a game on the market for retail. I'm talking about those companies that seem to nickle and dime you to death at every possible opportunity.

Before posting, please keep the last thing I said in mind.

The ones who tend to justify that nonsense are usually the ones who don't pay for it themselves, and use mom or dads credit card, or those who don't think about the consequences of their actions in the long run. As long as people continue to support things like over-priced dlc, greedy developers will continue to sell their snake oil to them.

No one is for nickle and diming. However one thing I agree about is that certain people defend DLC to the death, even when it's awful. For instance Mass Effect 2's DLC was pretty bad, it was the first DLC I ever bought and I felt jipped. Yet this was supposed to be "good" dlc... I could only imagine what bad DLC is. Though don't take me on too much I suppose, I'm going to buy every single DLC character for Marvel vs Capcom 3.

It shouldn't be this expensive, Valve proved that with lower prices you get a huge increase in sales. They charged like ten bucks for L4D2 and they saw more profits than launch day.

If the pricing seems stupid to you, you should... not buy it. No one is forcing you to.IronBass

Gaming is not medicine. Gaming is neither food nor shelter. It is a luxury, not a necessity. Gaming is also a business and as such, they charge what the market will bear. If I feel some dlc isn't worth it, I simply won't buy it.getyeryayasout

[QUOTE="getyeryayasout"]Gaming is not medicine. Gaming is neither food nor shelter. It is a luxury, not a necessity. Gaming is also a business and as such, they charge what the market will bear. If I feel some dlc isn't worth it, I simply won't buy it.monkey_muffin

You're only being taken advantage of if people buy it. EX: XBL Gold, $15 map packs that only include 3 new maps, games that should be DLC/expansions for not retail price, and horse armor DLC.

[QUOTE="IronBass"]If the pricing seems stupid to you, you should... not buy it. No one is forcing you to.monkey_muffin

[QUOTE="monkey_muffin"][QUOTE="IronBass"]If the pricing seems stupid to you, you should... not buy it. No one is forcing you to.IronBass

So I have one comment on this and then read some of the discussion: Do those, who are for high prices, think that those developers and publishers would help you out in a time of need? If you got fired, lost your home, counldn't afford to eat.......do you think they would help you out? They don't care.

monkey_muffin

Uh, well I didn't give a dime of my money to any game developer who went bust, so I don't really care about them either.

In times of need I've gone to the PC as a way of saving money, but I'm not going to sit here and preach that developers don't deserve every single penny of my money if they were to provide something that I want.

[QUOTE="monkey_muffin"][QUOTE="IronBass"]If the pricing seems stupid to you, you should... not buy it. No one is forcing you to.IronBass

No...no it was not. You did, in fact, miss the point completely.

So I have one comment on this and then read some of the discussion: Do those, who are for high prices, think that those developers and publishers would help you out in a time of need? If you got fired, lost your home, counldn't afford to eat.......do you think they would help you out? They don't care.monkey_muffin

I find those that say "Get used to it....developers deserve every penny!!"a little out of touch. monkey_muffin

[QUOTE="monkey_muffin"]No...no it was not. You did, in fact, miss the point completely.IronBass

The DLC was an example. So it's not just that. Basically I was saying any pricing that is not justified.

You said basiclally "don't buy it if you think it's too high". Thats not the point. I know there are those kinds of replies out there. I was asking those whodefend high game prices and high DLC prices to explain to me why they are so inclined to defend the devs and publishers. My defense being they would not help you out if YOU needed it, so why be so willing to "help" them out.

Your remark would fit if I were complaining. I'm not.

All I have to say to people who can't afford $50-$60 games is that rental and used games are always there and viable options. I hear Gamefly is actually pretty great.enterawesome

It's only expensive if you don't know how to shop properly.

I REALLY hate that phrase, but not in the context your using it.

Gamings cheap for me. My average purchase is probably around £10.

Working and common sense = profit for me.

If i didnt have my part time job my gaming collection would have barely changed that much..Got over30 games on PS3 and around 20 on my 360 :S

If the pricing seems stupid to you, you should... not buy it. No one is forcing you to.IronBass

that's not the right mentality to have. take for example a 15$ dlc yet there is barely any content on it. Now if everyone who wants it go and buy it the company is gonna be like well "I can sell them little content for any price" so they might raise or keep the price the same.

but if no one buys it, they will reduce the price of the product to a lower or more appropriate price and the next time around they will most likely come with a new dlc at a more reasonable price right from the start.

Yea but it's my money: sure it is but wouldn't you prefer to have more money to spend it on something else as well?

But I want the content now: seriously you are not gonna die if you wait

obviously this is only about dlc that the price doesn't match the content cough*MW2*cough

I think it was Fable 3 that charged you for a DLC to use the color black for clothes.:lol:

Now that is ridiculous.

On the better games, developers usually release additional storylines in DLCs.

I refuse to buy the games or DLC that is a rip off unless it is on sale or takes a big reduction in price. Patients is the key here, unless you are dealing with Ninendo and their never moving prices this gen.

I've just been accepting it for what it is for years now.

The ones who tend to justify that nonsense are usually the ones who don't pay for it themselves, and use mom or dads credit card, or those who don't think about the consequences of their actions in the long run. As long as people continue to support things like over-priced dlc, greedy developers will continue to sell their snake oil to them.

Bigboi500

Yea gaming is expensive and i must say that it does seem like we get taken advantage of a little, but you gotta remember the world we live in. I mean How many other companies sell there product compeletly over priced? Everyone does, its just the way the world works. But if you dont want to feel the sting of over priced gaming then you best bet is to have patience, I always wait for a couple of price cuts and then go buy the game or system used and ususally i always get my $ worth. Its all just how you work the system my friend. 8)

Please explain your side of the story.

FIRST: I'm not saying I'm against fair pricing. BUT, for example, lets say company A wants to sella DLC of different car colors for $15. Or something that 1) should have been in the game, and 2) is priced high for what it is to begin with.

Lets just say for arguments sake you know the situation I'm talking about. There are those who say it's just the way it is. Then there are those who find holes in the common sense of that.

I find those that say "Get used to it....developers deserve every penny!!"a little out of touch.

So I have one comment on this and then read some of the discussion: Do those, who are for high prices, think that those developers and publishers would help you out in a time of need? If you got fired, lost your home, counldn't afford to eat.......do you think they would help you out? They don't care.

Remember I'm talking about instances where the pricing is stupid. Not, Bungie who I hear listens to their community, then puts a game on the market for retail. I'm talking about those companies that seem to nickle and dime you to death at every possible opportunity.

Before posting, please keep the last thing I said in mind.

monkey_muffin

Seems like a one sided argument. Of course not. Its a predictable answer. I don't like the high prices, but development costs are going up up up. I don't know how gaming will maintain itself! The extra profit devs would make from DD seems like the next best step to keep us from paying $100 per game, but I don't know what happens after that. Technology won't tap out, but cost vs. reward will and has already started to.

My only problem with pricing is the extortionate amount people have to pay in europe and australia. $360 for the 3DS in the UK and new games in sweden where I live now are $112, even for a game like Bad Company 2 thats actually MADE in sweden and manufactured in germany :|

DLC is the least of my problems at the moment

The point isn't whether or not I should buy it. Those that say "Just don't buy it" have it wrong. What if Americas founding fathers would have said,"Well, it's England's rule, get over it," we would have never been America. Questioning those that have power is the basis for American way of life.monkey_muffin

The point isn't whether or not I should buy it. Those that say "Just don't buy it" have it wrong. What if Americas founding fathers would have said,"Well, it's England's rule, get over it," we would have never been America. Questioning those that have power is the basis for American way of life.monkey_muffin

My only problem with pricing is the extortionate amount people have to pay in europe and australia. $360 for the 3DS in the UK and new games in sweden where I live now are $112 :|.

DLC is the least of my problems at the moment

The point isn't whether or not I should buy it. Those that say "Just don't buy it" have it wrong. What if Americas founding fathers would have said,"Well, it's England's rule, get over it," we would have never been America. Questioning those that have power is the basis for American way of life.monkey_muffin

You have the ability to not pay for the games you know, and that'll certainly send a message to the developers to change what they're doing.

Just don't buy it 8)

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]

My only problem with pricing is the extortionate amount people have to pay in europe and australia. $360 for the 3DS in the UK and new games in sweden where I live now are $112 :|.

DLC is the least of my problems at the moment

hoosier7

Gaming has ALWAYS been expensive.

Back in 1987, I was only 10 and had to save up my Christmas & birthday money just to buy a Sega Master System. Luckily, I had a large family on both my parents' side.

When I turned 13, everyone in school and neighborhood were bragging about the Genesis. I had to work at my uncle's butcher shop, after school, sweeping floors and placing orders, just to desperately get one.

Seems to me the only reason to make the claim that gaming should be cheaper is the smoke screen used by people to justify their piracy.
I've paid for all my games and systems and even I agree gaming is an expensive hobby much like all hobbies are expensive based upon how much you put into them.

Its expensive to want to own most of the games, and dlc and systems get used to it.
also it seems to me the people that think gaming should be cheaper are the ones that aren't in the industry, have no idea how it works let alone know how buisness it self works.

Please explain your side of the story.

FIRST: I'm not saying I'm against fair pricing. BUT, for example, lets say company A wants to sella DLC of different car colors for $15. Or something that 1) should have been in the game, and 2) is priced high for what it is to begin with.

Lets just say for arguments sake you know the situation I'm talking about. There are those who say it's just the way it is. Then there are those who find holes in the common sense of that.

I find those that say "Get used to it....developers deserve every penny!!"a little out of touch.

So I have one comment on this and then read some of the discussion: Do those, who are for high prices, think that those developers and publishers would help you out in a time of need? If you got fired, lost your home, counldn't afford to eat.......do you think they would help you out? They don't care.

Remember I'm talking about instances where the pricing is stupid. Not, Bungie who I hear listens to their community, then puts a game on the market for retail. I'm talking about those companies that seem to nickle and dime you to death at every possible opportunity.

Before posting, please keep the last thing I said in mind.

monkey_muffin

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="monkey_muffin"]No...no it was not. You did, in fact, miss the point completely.monkey_muffin

The DLC was an example. So it's not just that. Basically I was saying any pricing that is not justified.

You said basiclally "don't buy it if you think it's too high". Thats not the point. I know there are those kinds of replies out there. I was asking those whodefend high game prices and high DLC prices to explain to me why they are so inclined to defend the devs and publishers. My defense being they would not help you out if YOU needed it, so why be so willing to "help" them out.

Your remark would fit if I were complaining. I'm not.

that is annoying. Arc Systems, Capcom, and EA are all guilty of stupid DLC. Blazblue is a great game but paying for something you can earn in the game itself is dumb, but I guess you can't blame the person who buys the DLC because it does say on the store that the items can be earned in game. Capcom Charges for dumb character costumes in street fighter. EA charges for maxed out characters in Tiger woods that can be earned in game. No one should be allowed to buy their way up to the top. Namco is also guilty by claiming that each platform soul calibur 4 is on has an exclusive character and then when you check the roster, you already knew that you got screwed. Namco then charges money for the extra character. Dumb.

I don't buy unnecessary crap. Even if I had loads of cash I still wouldn't buy any of it because it is garbage. The only reason why gaming is expensive is because people are willing to pay full price for X game. If a lot more people waited for a price drop, then games would probably start out less expensive. No one is forcing you to buy anything you don't want to. Gaming is only expensive, if you make it and have to play games at launch or soon after it. No one makes anyone buy Call of duty for $60 but it sells millions on day one and so those people make others suffer.

Gaming is actually quite a cheap hobby, I don't understand why people think otherwise.