Forza 3 (360) vs. Gran Turismo 5 (PS3)

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#1 nervmeister
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Since GT5 is now confirmed for 2009, this matchup should be inevitable now. These two are perfect rivals for 09'. Both are damn good racing series honored by critics and gamers alike. With that said, which do you think will be better?
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#2 st1ka
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do we even know anything about Forza 3?
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#3 DonPerian
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You want to compare an unannounced game with an unreleased one?!
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#4 too_much_eslim
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we still need to see if Forza 3 actually comes out in 2009. Here is the thing Turn 10 knows they need to up their graphics engine and improve their physics a lot more. We will see when the games come out.
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#5 Bromz
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You want to compare an unannounced game with an unreleased one?!DonPerian
Welcome to SW.
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#6 Floppy_Jim
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I don't like the racing sims genre, I find it boring. But even I know that GT is the king.
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#7 carlisledavid79
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[QUOTE="DonPerian"]You want to compare an unannounced game with an unreleased one?!Bromz
Welcome to SW.

Kindly leave your logic outside before entering.
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#8 too_much_eslim
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I don't like the racing sims genre, I find it boring. But even I know that GT is the king.Floppy_Jim
In what way. I don't play either games, but Forza has seemed to outperform GT score wise. GT will destroy Forza sales wise. I would take Mario Kart 64 over both though.
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#9 nervmeister
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You want to compare an unannounced game with an unreleased one?!DonPerian
we still need to see if Forza 3 actually comes out in 2009.too_much_eslim
Aw damn. Well a lot were talking like F3 was guaranteed for 09', so I figured why not.
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#10 foxhound_fox
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do we even know anything about Forza 3?st1ka

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forza_3

My biggest concern about GT5 is that they are spending too much time on making the cars look good and not enough time on creating a "racing" experience with proper AI.

Plus, if GT5 doesn't have the paint customization of Forza 2 (which is going to be improved and expanded on in 3), then I will have to pass. I enjoy not having to buy 12 copies of the same car just to drive it in different colours.
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#11 st1ka
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[QUOTE="DonPerian"]You want to compare an unannounced game with an unreleased one?!nervmeister
we still need to see if Forza 3 actually comes out in 2009.too_much_eslim
Aw damn. Well a lot were talking like F3 was guaranteed for 09', so I figured why not.

i think 2010 is a great possibility
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#12 Floppy_Jim
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]I don't like the racing sims genre, I find it boring. But even I know that GT is the king.too_much_eslim
In what way. I don't play either games, but Forza has seemed to outperform GT score wise. GT will destroy Forza sales wise. I would take Mario Kart 64 over both though.

Does it? I thought all 4 GT games were AAA at metacritic/GR/GS. I don't care really, I'd take Wipeout HD and Motorstorm: PR over both.
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#13 too_much_eslim
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[QUOTE="DonPerian"]You want to compare an unannounced game with an unreleased one?!nervmeister
we still need to see if Forza 3 actually comes out in 2009.too_much_eslim
Aw damn. Well a lot were talking like F3 was guaranteed for 09', so I figured why not.

It is a rumor right now. It might be true because everything that was leaked for MS E3 conference eventually became true.
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#14 CODjon84
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In terms of graphics GT5 prologue already owns Forza 2, hopefully they will implement a cock pit view in Forza 3. I always like the GT series a lot better, for some reason everytime i play Forza 2 it feels like a chore
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#15 too_much_eslim
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[QUOTE="st1ka"]do we even know anything about Forza 3?foxhound_fox

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forza_3

My biggest concern about GT5 is that they are spending too much time on making the cars look good and not enough time on creating a "racing" experience with proper AI.

Plus, if GT5 doesn't have the paint customization of Forza 2 (which is going to be improved and expanded on in 3), then I will have to pass. I enjoy not having to buy 12 copies of the same car just to drive it in different colours.

I would actually buy forza 2 if it allowed you to upload pictures and paste it on your car like a sticker.
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#16 SecretPolice
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Since back in 2006 we had many threads comparing the as yet to be released GT5 with the released Forza 2.Ya think maybe to be safe we should just compare Forza 5 with GT5 ? :P

Anywho, Forza 3 but since it's not officially announced; Race Pro > GT5.

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#17 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="st1ka"]do we even know anything about Forza 3?too_much_eslim

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forza_3

My biggest concern about GT5 is that they are spending too much time on making the cars look good and not enough time on creating a "racing" experience with proper AI.

Plus, if GT5 doesn't have the paint customization of Forza 2 (which is going to be improved and expanded on in 3), then I will have to pass. I enjoy not having to buy 12 copies of the same car just to drive it in different colours.

I would actually buy forza 2 if it allowed you to upload pictures and paste it on your car like a sticker.

I forgot which racing game allowed that.
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#18 johnnyblazed88
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going by the last 2 games in each series ill say Forza 3
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#19 EVOLV3
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What exactly are we supposed to debate here? We know nothing of either really.
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#20 Panther501
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GT5 hands down.

Its a much bigger franchise than forza and it has always delivered a solid racing expirence that I'd rate higher than forza.

In sales I would think gt5 would move a lot of ps3's than forza would xbox's espcially overseas in europe and asia.  

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#21 The_Game21x
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I think Forza 3 will be better. The Forza series has beaten GT at its own game twice now and I don't see that trend stopping any time soon.
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#22 dream431ca
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I know one thing for sure. GT5 will look 2 laps better than Forza 3.
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#23 dream431ca
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I think Forza 3 will be better. The Forza series has beaten GT at its own game twice now and I don't see that trend stopping any time soon. The_Game21x
Your suppose to put IMO at the end. :P
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we still need to see if Forza 3 actually comes out in 2009. Here is the thing Turn 10 knows they need to up their graphics engine and improve their physics a lot more. We will see when the games come out.too_much_eslim
The physics is sound, far superior to the GT series. They will need to work on the graphics to compete with GT5, I don't know if they will be able to compete on graphics or number of cars to be honest but FM3 will probably win on gameplay and customisation (actually I think they take customisation too far for me :?).
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#25 foxhound_fox
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GT5 hands down.

Its a much bigger franchise than forza and it has always delivered a solid racing expirence that I'd rate higher than forza.

In sales I would think gt5 would move a lot of ps3's than forza would xbox's espcially overseas in europe and asia.  

Panther501

More popular =/= better

See: GT4 and Forza Motorsport GS reviews
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#26 Salt_The_Fries
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GT5 hands down.

Its a much bigger franchise than forza and it has always delivered a solid racing expirence that I'd rate higher than forza. Panther501

The first part of sentence doesn't have anything to quality, and about the second part, which components were constituents of more solid racing experience than Forza, personal preferences aside?
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#27 dream431ca
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]we still need to see if Forza 3 actually comes out in 2009. Here is the thing Turn 10 knows they need to up their graphics engine and improve their physics a lot more. We will see when the games come out.SapSacPrime
The physics is sound, far superior to the GT series. They will need to work on the graphics to compete with GT5, I don't know if they will be able to compete on graphics or number of cars to be honest but FM3 will probably win on gameplay and customisation (actually I think they take customisation too far for me :?).

It's not "far superior" than GT5p. But Forza 2's physics are certainly better than GT4's physics.

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#28 Rafinator
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I don't like the racing sims genre, I find it boring. But even I know that GT is the king.Floppy_Jim
I couldn't have said this better myself
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#29 Rafinator
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[QUOTE="SapSacPrime"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]we still need to see if Forza 3 actually comes out in 2009. Here is the thing Turn 10 knows they need to up their graphics engine and improve their physics a lot more. We will see when the games come out.dream431ca

The physics is sound, far superior to the GT series. They will need to work on the graphics to compete with GT5, I don't know if they will be able to compete on graphics or number of cars to be honest but FM3 will probably win on gameplay and customisation (actually I think they take customisation too far for me :?).

It's not "far superior" than GT5p. But Forza 2's physics are certainly better than GT4's physics.

forza 2 is on 360, gt4 is on ps2... so you're trying to compare a 360 and a ps2 game... lol
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#30 dream431ca
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[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

[QUOTE="SapSacPrime"] The physics is sound, far superior to the GT series. They will need to work on the graphics to compete with GT5, I don't know if they will be able to compete on graphics or number of cars to be honest but FM3 will probably win on gameplay and customisation (actually I think they take customisation too far for me :?).Rafinator

It's not "far superior" than GT5p. But Forza 2's physics are certainly better than GT4's physics.

forza 2 is on 360, gt4 is on ps2... so you're trying to compare a 360 and a ps2 game... lol

Hey, it's Forza 2. I'm allowed to. LOL

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#31 DivinitySkate
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Please tell me this is a joke I HAVE FORZA 2 and i know it's sequel doesn't stand a chance against GT5. Forza 2 and 1 were both great games 3 no doubt will be great. But GT5 is by far a better game.
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#32 Rikusaki
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Gran Turismo 5.

Want to know why?

I like the physics engine better. 

The attention to detail is better.

The track selection and the accuracy of the track models are better.

The car models are more accurate.

It's just a better quality game. And that is my opinion. Nobody can change my mind about this since I have played both Forza 2 and GT4.

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#33 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]I think Forza 3 will be better. The Forza series has beaten GT at its own game twice now and I don't see that trend stopping any time soon. dream431ca
Your suppose to put IMO at the end. :P

I thought that was implied...
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#34 dream431ca
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[QUOTE="dream431ca"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]I think Forza 3 will be better. The Forza series has beaten GT at its own game twice now and I don't see that trend stopping any time soon. The_Game21x
Your suppose to put IMO at the end. :P

I thought that was implied...

I really wish it was.

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#35 DonPerian
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To quote Rikusaki (for some reason it won't let me do it the traditional way) on him claiming his opinion cannot be altered for he has played GT4 and Forza 2...

We're not talking about Forza 2 or GT4.

That being said,

You can't possibly like the physics better in one game or the other.

You can't possibly claim the attention to detail is better in one game or the other.

You can't possibly say the track selection is better.

You can't possibly say the car models are more accurate.

Like I said, you cannot possibly compare an unreleased game with an unannounced one. Comparing the previous iterations is not something to go by and is not the subject of this thread.

[QUOTE="dream431ca"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]I think Forza 3 will be better. The Forza series has beaten GT at its own game twice now and I don't see that trend stopping any time soon. The_Game21x
Your suppose to put IMO at the end. :P

I thought that was implied...

Not only is it implied, you practically said so by saying "I think" in the beginning. Regardless, the second half of your statement, by SW standards, can be considered factual considering the Forza series has outscored the GT series both times around here on GS.

I was never one to play by SW's rules. Play whatever you like and don't let others tell you otherwise. Advancing my defense, Rikusaki claimed he liked something he has yet to play.

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#36 Rikusaki
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We're not talking about Forza 2 or GT4.

That being said,

You can't possibly like the physics better in one game or the other.

You can't possibly claim the attention to detail is better in one game or the other.

You can't possibly say the track selection is better.

You can't possibly say the car models are more accurate.

Like I said, you cannot possibly compare an unreleased game with an unannounced one. Comparing the previous iterations is not something to go by and is not the subject of this thread.

DonPerian

lol I know. :P I agree with you. It' is very difficult to compare an unanounced game with an unreleased game.lol :P

I tried! :cry:

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#37 box0rocks
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i only have a ps3 so GT5 all the way but i've been hearing alot of good things about the fonza series so lets find out in 2023 :P
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#38 angryfodder
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I've put more hours into all of the gt games that have ever been released than I care to remember. Great games.

Forza does motor racing better though.

No one can touch GT for presentation - more effort goes into the intro video's of a GT game then the whole of a forza game. And have you seen the graphics in prologue. They are amaxing.

They have barely touched the gameplay though. Its the same old thing, and the same old issues. I'm not even going to list them. Anyone that has spend serious time with the games already knows.

Forza>GT

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#39 LostSoul03
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if they make gt5 anything like prologue, then forza 3 will sell more based on gameplay ALONE
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#40 htekemerald
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if they make gt5 anything like prologue, then forza 3 will sell more based on gameplay ALONELostSoul03
Why did you necro a 6 month old thread?

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#41 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="LostSoul03"]if they make gt5 anything like prologue, then forza 3 will sell more based on gameplay ALONEhtekemerald

Why did you necro a 6 month old thread?

And make a false statement!
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#42 W1NGMAN-
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who bumped this crap?!

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#44 Wubba
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Good bump. There are so few opportunities and threads to discuss GT vs. Forza.

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#45 king_chapeton15
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gt5 of course it has over 700 cars

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[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]Gta3-fan334

Look at how old the thread is..

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#48 10thwonder
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... i've been hearing alot of good things about the fonza series... :Pbox0rocks

Is this the new game about Arthur "The Fonz" Fonzarelli? :P Eyyyyyyy!!!! (Snap fingers and point).

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#49 stylesPS3
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In terms of graphics GT5 prologue already owns Forza 2, hopefully they will implement a cock pit view in Forza 3. I always like the GT series a lot better, for some reason everytime i play Forza 2 it feels like a chore CODjon84
i agree GT just gives you this immersive experience that i dont think any other game can touch.

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#50 Adrian_Cloud
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Going by critical acclaum GT is the better franchise, going fanbase GT is also the bigger franchise, going by sales GT is also a higher selling franchise, shown by trends in the industry Gt is the more respected franchise. Going by whats been said by developers, Forza 3 is the definitive racer and Gran Turismo 5 will be the best product Polyphony can make. Ofcourse Kaz is being meek, meanwhile Turn 10 is boastful. So there you have it. Even though Gran Turismo 5 has better graphics, more cars, more tracks, all on one disc, Forza 3 will still manage to somehow be the definitive racer this gen.