Forza 3 Better Than GT 5, Says Vote

This topic is locked from further discussion.

Avatar image for Rockman999
Rockman999

7507

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#1 Rockman999
Member since 2005 • 7507 Posts

Sometimes the gaming industry baffles me, and today seems like it's going to be one of those days, and it's a three pronged approach to the type of journalism dragging everyone down.

Remember E3, when Microsoft showed off Forza 3 and Sony ran a trailer for Gran Turismo 5? Both looked like really nice games, right? But in a seemingly desperate attempt to grab some headlines, cnet is running a poll to establish which is the best game. "Sure, you could just get both and have double the fun, but only one can be the best," says the normally reputable site.

It's probably safer that you just jump to the results rather than getting involved - both have only really been shown on video and so any kind of judgement over which is the "best" will need to be reserved until both are on the shelves, finished and playable. Cheap stuff, cnet.

But then we move onto the Forza Motorsport forums, where Che from the Turn 10 team has been attempting to get Forza fans in on the vote with the promise of a free Unicorn (rare Forza 2 car) to everyone that votes for Forza 3. "We all know which game is [sic] we'd like to see win, so go here," he says, "and vote for Forza Motorsport 3! Afterwards, come to this thread and post a message letting us know you've done it. We'll gift you a random unicorn!"

The tactic appears to be working. Whether or not any of the 10,000 voters that have opted for Forza 3 have played the game we're not sure, but we'd imagine not. Likewise for the Gran Turismo 5 fans too, of course, who must also only be basing their voting on a brief trailer, some bullet points and a dash of blind fanboyism.

And then you have sites like PlayStationLife****who are claiming Turn 10 are "using bribes" (their words) to skew the vote. It's certainly not a bribe, more of an incentive, and we can't see the problem with that because the votes would probably still fall the same way given the sources of the traffic. The treat of a free rare car is a nice idea, and one that Polyphony might want to keep an eye on.

"What is NOT acceptable," says John Draisey of PlayStationLife**** "is when a publisher or developer uses bribes to gain an advantage. Che Chou, the community manager at Turn 10, has done exactly this, and we feel compelled to inform our readers about the dishonest tactics that the Forza Motorsport developer has chosen to carry out."

I honestly don't see why the site is so bothered about this, and we're of the opinion that if Sony did this then it would be a perfectly acceptable method of getting traffic to such a nonsensical vote. Still, with the guys from Polyphony very keen (they were hovering around Forza 3, taking notes and asking questions) lets hope GT5 picks up on at least some of Turn 10's verve.

And let's also hope that today gets a little less silly. I'm off for a coffee.

Link

Avatar image for The_Brodeo
The_Brodeo

804

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#2 The_Brodeo
Member since 2009 • 804 Posts

Neither game is out.

/thread

Avatar image for Rockman999
Rockman999

7507

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#3 Rockman999
Member since 2005 • 7507 Posts

Neither game is out.

/thread

The_Brodeo

Did you even read it?

Avatar image for nmaharg
nmaharg

3285

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#4 nmaharg
Member since 2004 • 3285 Posts
The dude who wrote this is a sad sad man. It's an internet poll, does anyone even care?
Avatar image for gdp72
gdp72

1270

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#5 gdp72
Member since 2007 • 1270 Posts

My poll says Burnout Paradise will still pwn them both.

Avatar image for iammason
iammason

4189

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#6 iammason
Member since 2004 • 4189 Posts
[QUOTE="Rockman999"]

[QUOTE="The_Brodeo"]

Neither game is out.

/thread

Did you even read it?

LOL I did. But on topic, I think the boys at PlaystationLife were just a tad jealous of the free "unicorn"
Avatar image for sikanderahmed
sikanderahmed

5444

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#7 sikanderahmed
Member since 2007 • 5444 Posts

"But then we move onto the Forza Motorsport forums, where Che from the Turn 10 team has been attempting to get Forza fans in on the vote with the promise of a free Unicorn (rare Forza 2 car) to everyone that votes for Forza 3. "We all know which game is [sic] we'd like to see win, so go here," he says, "and vote for Forza Motorsport 3! Afterwards, come to this thread and post a message letting us know you've done it. We'll gift you a random unicorn!"

sometimes morons baffle me, it was a joke but the sixthaxis took it serious

Avatar image for The_Brodeo
The_Brodeo

804

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#8 The_Brodeo
Member since 2009 • 804 Posts

[QUOTE="The_Brodeo"]

Neither game is out.

/thread

Rockman999

Did you even read it?

Who cares these always just start flamewars about nothing.

Avatar image for iammason
iammason

4189

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#9 iammason
Member since 2004 • 4189 Posts
[QUOTE="The_Brodeo"]

[QUOTE="Rockman999"]

[QUOTE="The_Brodeo"]

Neither game is out.

/thread

Did you even read it?

Who cares these always just start flamewars about nothing.

LOL you must be new here or something
Avatar image for TheOldOlder
TheOldOlder

1212

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#10 TheOldOlder
Member since 2009 • 1212 Posts

Gran Turismo will always be the racing sim to play for me, I dont care about Forza Motosport, I didnt care 10 years ago, I didnt care last gen and this one isnt going to change my view

Avatar image for Rockman999
Rockman999

7507

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#11 Rockman999
Member since 2005 • 7507 Posts

[QUOTE="Rockman999"]

[QUOTE="The_Brodeo"]

Neither game is out.

/thread

iammason

Did you even read it?

LOL I did. But on topic, I think the boys at PlaystationLife were just a tad jealous of the free "unicorn"

What's so special about that car? lol I mean it's just a virtual car.

Avatar image for bingbaocao
bingbaocao

1852

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#12 bingbaocao
Member since 2009 • 1852 Posts
The dude who wrote this is a sad sad man. It's an internet poll, does anyone even care?nmaharg
i dunno, he sounded like the voice of reason if you ask me
Avatar image for iammason
iammason

4189

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#13 iammason
Member since 2004 • 4189 Posts

[QUOTE="iammason"][QUOTE="Rockman999"]

Did you even read it?

Rockman999

LOL I did. But on topic, I think the boys at PlaystationLife were just a tad jealous of the free "unicorn"

What's so special about that car? lol I mean it's just a virtual car.

It's a rare car you can unlock within the game. Personally, I think it's fan service at it's best.

Avatar image for EmperorSupreme
EmperorSupreme

7686

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#14 EmperorSupreme
Member since 2006 • 7686 Posts

I'm sure this poll is really accurate with the Forza team bribing people to cast votes for them

http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/thread/2631203.aspx

^^-----That's pretty pathetic

Avatar image for sikanderahmed
sikanderahmed

5444

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#15 sikanderahmed
Member since 2007 • 5444 Posts

I'm sure this poll is really accurate with the Forza team bribing people to cast votes for them

http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/thread/2631203.aspx

^^-----That's pretty pathetic

EmperorSupreme

dude you really think they were serious?

Avatar image for EmperorSupreme
EmperorSupreme

7686

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#16 EmperorSupreme
Member since 2006 • 7686 Posts

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

I'm sure this poll is really accurate with the Forza team bribing people to cast votes for them

http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/thread/2631203.aspx

^^-----That's pretty pathetic

sikanderahmed

dude you really think they were serious?

Obviously they are serious and so are the people that voted if you look at the replies.
Avatar image for Rockman999
Rockman999

7507

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#17 Rockman999
Member since 2005 • 7507 Posts

[QUOTE="Rockman999"]

[QUOTE="iammason"]LOL I did. But on topic, I think the boys at PlaystationLife were just a tad jealous of the free "unicorn"iammason

What's so special about that car? lol I mean it's just a virtual car.

It's a rare car you can unlock within the game. Personally, I think it's fan service at it's best.

oh ok.

Avatar image for sikanderahmed
sikanderahmed

5444

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#18 sikanderahmed
Member since 2007 • 5444 Posts

[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

I'm sure this poll is really accurate with the Forza team bribing people to cast votes for them

http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/thread/2631203.aspx

^^-----That's pretty pathetic

EmperorSupreme

dude you really think they were serious?

Obviously they are serious and so are the people that voted if you look at the replies.

those people would have voted for forza 3 whether turn10 "bribed" them or not.

Avatar image for yoshi_64
yoshi_64

25261

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 13

User Lists: 0

#19 yoshi_64
Member since 2003 • 25261 Posts
:lol: Do the people of that playstation site not have a sense of humor? Really? Bribed... with a unicorn? My goodness did anyone see any unicorns on the way to any nearby Forza forum posters house? Cause... I'd sure like one! *votes for Forza 3* now to wait *waits*
Avatar image for subyman
subyman

1719

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 19

User Lists: 0

#20 subyman
Member since 2005 • 1719 Posts

I think the GT fans are just jealous that there are going to be THREE forza games released between GT4 and GT5.

Avatar image for EmperorSupreme
EmperorSupreme

7686

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#21 EmperorSupreme
Member since 2006 • 7686 Posts

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

dude you really think they were serious?

sikanderahmed

Obviously they are serious and so are the people that voted if you look at the replies.

those people would have voted for forza 3 whether turn10 "bribed" them or not.

Maybe maybe not... You are making an assumption.
Avatar image for Dr_Snood
Dr_Snood

2547

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#22 Dr_Snood
Member since 2008 • 2547 Posts
[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

dude you really think they were serious?

Obviously they are serious and so are the people that voted if you look at the replies.

those people would have voted for forza 3 whether turn10 "bribed" them or not.

A lot of them probably never would have known that the poll existed :P.
Avatar image for yoshi_64
yoshi_64

25261

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 13

User Lists: 0

#23 yoshi_64
Member since 2003 • 25261 Posts
[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"] Obviously they are serious and so are the people that voted if you look at the replies.EmperorSupreme

those people would have voted for forza 3 whether turn10 "bribed" them or not.

Maybe maybe not... You are making an assumption.

Considering this "bribe" is on the official Forza forum, where the only people there are likely Forza fans, it's a very safe assumption to call.
Avatar image for -RocBoys9489-
-RocBoys9489-

6336

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#24 -RocBoys9489-
Member since 2008 • 6336 Posts

I think the GT fans are just jealous that there are going to be THREE forza games released between GT4 and GT5.

subyman
This and agreed.
Avatar image for BioShockOwnz
BioShockOwnz

52901

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#25 BioShockOwnz
Member since 2006 • 52901 Posts

I want F3 more, but honestly, a vote from people who haven't played either of them? Yeah...

You can't say Turn 10 doesn't deserve it, though. They've proven they're capable.

Avatar image for Generalmojo
Generalmojo

3670

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#26 Generalmojo
Member since 2008 • 3670 Posts

Neither game is out.

/thread

The_Brodeo

Avatar image for Wubba
Wubba

173

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#27 Wubba
Member since 2009 • 173 Posts

Considering that every GT forum in the universe is exploding with this atrocity :roll:and have struck back in force, I'd say that equal numbers of fanboys on both sides have weighed in on that poll.

Avatar image for finesse-gamer
finesse-gamer

946

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#28 finesse-gamer
Member since 2009 • 946 Posts

psychics exist in droves, says vote

Avatar image for WWIAB
WWIAB

4352

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 0

#29 WWIAB
Member since 2006 • 4352 Posts
Eh...Both will rock The only thing that got me about FM2, was the Developer Community Support for the UK...there were plenty of events hosted, all in USA timezones this meant that the fans from Australia and UK missed out unless we were willing to stay up till 3am When I asked Che and the other Community support team about it......all I got was "eh" Basically, they made the most money off the US, therefore they got the most priveleges The Uk got the CE cars which was cool....but the other places in the world missed out
Avatar image for heretrix
heretrix

37881

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#30 heretrix
Member since 2004 • 37881 Posts

The Unicorn car is badass. But this does show how quickly the Forza community can whip up little things like this for their fanbase.Why didn't the GT people just do the same thing? Prologue is out, why not gift a car to the fanbase?

Avatar image for TheOldOlder
TheOldOlder

1212

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#31 TheOldOlder
Member since 2009 • 1212 Posts
[QUOTE="subyman"]

I think the GT fans are just jealous that there are going to be THREE forza games released between GT4 and GT5.

-RocBoys9489-
This and agreed.

I am a GT fan and I concur, painfully with that statement, I never doubt of the superior quality of Gran Turismo but its just taking too long some people are already convinced that GT5 was cancelled :?
Avatar image for -platy-
-platy-

593

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#32 -platy-
Member since 2007 • 593 Posts

Thanks for this thread, i get a unicorn :D

Avatar image for PS_John
PS_John

687

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#33 PS_John
Member since 2008 • 687 Posts

I think the GT fans are just jealous that there are going to be THREE forza games released between GT4 and GT5.

subyman
Yeah, we are so jealous of leemings getting milked..
Avatar image for jakarai
jakarai

4289

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#34 jakarai
Member since 2008 • 4289 Posts
Funny stuff GT 5 is winning the poll. Even with the snake attempt they are still loosing the poll.
Avatar image for jakarai
jakarai

4289

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#35 jakarai
Member since 2008 • 4289 Posts

The Unicorn car is badass. But this does show how quickly the Forza community can whip up little things like this for their fanbase.Why didn't the GT people just do the same thing? Prologue is out, why not gift a car to the fanbase?

heretrix
Because we are winning the poll without it. :)
Avatar image for PS_John
PS_John

687

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#36 PS_John
Member since 2008 • 687 Posts
[QUOTE="heretrix"]

The Unicorn car is badass. But this does show how quickly the Forza community can whip up little things like this for their fanbase.Why didn't the GT people just do the same thing? Prologue is out, why not gift a car to the fanbase?

jakarai
Because we are winning the poll without it. :)

Yep lol :D I have voted like 50 times so far for GT5, just clear your cookies and it lets you make multiple votes
Avatar image for heretrix
heretrix

37881

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#37 heretrix
Member since 2004 • 37881 Posts

[QUOTE="jakarai"][QUOTE="heretrix"]

The Unicorn car is badass. But this does show how quickly the Forza community can whip up little things like this for their fanbase.Why didn't the GT people just do the same thing? Prologue is out, why not gift a car to the fanbase?

PS_John

Because we are winning the poll without it. :)

Yep lol :D I have voted like 50 times so far for GT5, just clear your cookies and it lets you make multiple votes

Lol. So I guess cheating is better than bribing eh? You guys crack me the hell up. It's stuff like this that keeps me coming back.

Avatar image for PvtGump8
PvtGump8

739

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#38 PvtGump8
Member since 2005 • 739 Posts
wow I guess GT5 is better...
Avatar image for The_Game21x
The_Game21x

26440

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 32

User Lists: 0

#39 The_Game21x
Member since 2005 • 26440 Posts

:lol: Do the people of that playstation site not have a sense of humor? Really? Bribed... with a unicorn? My goodness did anyone see any unicorns on the way to any nearby Forza forum posters house? Cause... I'd sure like one! *votes for Forza 3* now to wait *waits*yoshi_64

For those of you who still don't know what unicorns are in the Forza universe, clicky. :P

On topic, I find it funny that a site called Playstation Life is accusing Turn 10 of offering "bribes" to those who vote for Forza 3. In my eyes, it just looks like their feelings are hurt over the fact that GT5 lost. If this had been from an impartial site, then I might not see it that way.

Avatar image for dragonpuppy
dragonpuppy

952

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#40 dragonpuppy
Member since 2006 • 952 Posts

[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]:lol: Do the people of that playstation site not have a sense of humor? Really? Bribed... with a unicorn? My goodness did anyone see any unicorns on the way to any nearby Forza forum posters house? Cause... I'd sure like one! *votes for Forza 3* now to wait *waits*The_Game21x

For those of you who still don't know what unicorns are in the Forza universe, clicky. :P

On topic, I find it funny that a site called Playstation Life is accusing Turn 10 of offering "bribes" to those who vote for Forza 3. In my eyes, it just looks like their feelings are hurt over the fact that GT5 lost. If this had been from an impartial site, then I might not see it that way.

GT5 isn't losing though...it's actually winning... :|

Avatar image for hy4k
hy4k

1790

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#41 hy4k
Member since 2009 • 1790 Posts
at this point forza is the standard, GT is the wannabe GT5 is also the duke nukem forever of racing sims. i hope for cows sakes it's good
Avatar image for Stoner-Pimp
Stoner-Pimp

979

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#42 Stoner-Pimp
Member since 2008 • 979 Posts
I'm not sure which game will be the best however i actully plan on getting both if they are both good (why limit yourself to 1 great game when you could have 2 :D) BUT how can anyone not agree that Turn 10 are in the wrong here, i mean bribing customers in order to scew a vote, that's pretty pathetic, it really shows them to be pretty lousy devs/people if they have to resort to this kind of childish behaviour.
Avatar image for The_Game21x
The_Game21x

26440

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 32

User Lists: 0

#43 The_Game21x
Member since 2005 • 26440 Posts

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]:lol: Do the people of that playstation site not have a sense of humor? Really? Bribed... with a unicorn? My goodness did anyone see any unicorns on the way to any nearby Forza forum posters house? Cause... I'd sure like one! *votes for Forza 3* now to wait *waits*dragonpuppy

For those of you who still don't know what unicorns are in the Forza universe, clicky. :P

On topic, I find it funny that a site called Playstation Life is accusing Turn 10 of offering "bribes" to those who vote for Forza 3. In my eyes, it just looks like their feelings are hurt over the fact that GT5 lost. If this had been from an impartial site, then I might not see it that way.

GT5 isn't losing though...it's actually winning... :|

Yes it is winning by a few hundred votes, now. Yesterday, when I checked the poll and voted myself, Forza 3 was in the lead, and that's what I based my post on. That Playstation Life article was also posted yesterday, when Forza 3 was in the lead, so my point about their feelings being hurt still stands.
Avatar image for -RocBoys9489-
-RocBoys9489-

6336

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#44 -RocBoys9489-
Member since 2008 • 6336 Posts
[QUOTE="subyman"]

I think the GT fans are just jealous that there are going to be THREE forza games released between GT4 and GT5.

PS_John
Yeah, we are so jealous of leemings getting milked..

Milked?! What?!