Forza 3 vs. GT5 Head2Head

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BOTTOM LINE:

Gran Turismo

Global percent of torn frames: 22.04
Global average FPS: 52.69

Forza

Global percent of torn frames: 0.14

Global average FPS: 55.34

GT5 have superior textures while forza has better performance, .14% screen tearing on forza while 22% screen tearing on GT5

Forza also seems to have better framearate

Head to head comparisons should only be for multiplatform games. Thats my opinion. Either way, from what Ive been told people are enjoying GT5 a lot so all these pointless comparisons are not detracting most people from the game, and it shouldnt, all they do is just add fuel to the already burning SW fire

i wonder if people realize two Forza games were released during Gran Turismo 5's development time...-The-G-Man-

yeah, but were comparing the latest to the latest

[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]i wonder if people realize two Forza games were released during Gran Turismo 5's development time...HailedJohnDman

yeah, but were comparing the latest to the latest

i wonder if people realize two Forza games were released during Gran Turismo 5's development time...-The-G-Man-

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BOTTOM LINE:

Gran Turismo

Global percent of torn frames: 22.04
Global average FPS: 52.69

Forza

Global percent of torn frames: 0.14

Global average FPS: 55.34

GT5 have superior textures while forza has better performance, .14% screen tearing on forza while 22% screen tearing on GT5

Forza also seems to have better framearate

HailedJohnDman

FPS is way WAY to similar to be an issue here and is a mute point! A silly thing to even bring up if both have such a average / reasonable FPS.

Performance:This category left us rather shocked because performance expectations for Gran Turismo 5 were quite high. Unfortunately, we were left very disappointed and confused. Our analyzer recorded that Forza 3 had a much morestable frame rate throughout. As seen in the video, it's clear that Gran Turismo 5 was having difficulties maintaining it's projected 60 FPS, while Forza 3 was locked at a perfect 60 FPS throughout . In addition to the fluctuating frame rate, Gran Turismo 5 screen tore 20% more than Forza 3 did.

On a final note, on average both games performed pretty close to one another averaging around 60FPS while in-game. However, we noticed that your previous race would replay back at perfect 30FPS. Listed below are the average frame rate and screen tearing percentages.

Perhaps it would pay me to read the article 1st.... Damn lol

[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]i wonder if people realize two Forza games were released during Gran Turismo 5's development time...hexashadow13

[QUOTE="HailedJohnDman"]

http://www.lensoftruth.com/?p=24784

BOTTOM LINE:

Gran Turismo

Global percent of torn frames: 22.04
Global average FPS: 52.69

Forza

Global percent of torn frames: 0.14

Global average FPS: 55.34

GT5 have superior textures while forza has better performance, .14% screen tearing on forza while 22% screen tearing on GT5

Forza also seems to have better framearate

jwsoul

FPS is way WAY to similar to be an issue here and is a mute point! A silly thing to even bring up if both have such a average / reasonable FPS.

Performance:This category left us rather shocked because performance expectations for Gran Turismo 5 were quite high. Unfortunately, we were left very disappointed and confused. Our analyzer recorded that Forza 3 had a much morestable frame rate throughout. As seen in the video, it's clear that Gran Turismo 5 was having difficulties maintaining it's projected 60 FPS, while Forza 3 was locked at a perfect 60 FPS throughout . In addition to the fluctuating frame rate, Gran Turismo 5 screen tore 20% more than Forza 3 did.

On a final note, on average both games performed pretty close to one another averaging around 60FPS while in-game. However, we noticed that your previous race would replay back at perfect 30FPS. Listed below are the average frame rate and screen tearing percentages.

Perhaps it would pay me to read the article 1st.... Damn lol

i hate it when people do that

just making assumptions without actually reading the article:x

[QUOTE="hexashadow13"][QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]i wonder if people realize two Forza games were released during Gran Turismo 5's development time...vashkey

[QUOTE="hexashadow13"][QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]i wonder if people realize two Forza games were released during Gran Turismo 5's development time...vashkey

I've played both games, and the games do have differant graphics, but they both look amazing. Average framerate is not an issue, as long as its 50+ its not an issue. That said, gt 5's does dip noticeably sometimes, while forza's islocked in at60, but gt5 has sixteen cars at a time while forza has eight, so its a kind of give and take. Personally, id rather have eight cars and steady framerate, but thats subjective. Lighting and contrast wise, gt5 obviously is going for a more realistic approach, while forza 3 is going for a more "eye-candy" look with its high contrast. Textures are betterin gt5's premium cars and their cockpits then in forza, but the level of detail is very good throught the cars in forza, while it varies in gt5 from poor to borderline-realistic, so again its a kind of give and take.Same thing with tracks, generally the look better in Forza 3imo, but there areafewingt 5, ecpecially the ones with weather effects, that are absolutely jaw-dropping.The biggest problem with gt5, however, are jagged shadows which can bereally distracting at times.

The point to this article, though, I think that after six years and sixty million dollars, the game is graphically comparable to forza 3 which is year old, which you have admit is dissapointing, but graphics dont make a game and fans probably wont care.

[QUOTE="jwsoul"]

[QUOTE="HailedJohnDman"]

http://www.lensoftruth.com/?p=24784

BOTTOM LINE:

Gran Turismo

Global percent of torn frames: 22.04
Global average FPS: 52.69

Forza

Global percent of torn frames: 0.14

Global average FPS: 55.34

GT5 have superior textures while forza has better performance, .14% screen tearing on forza while 22% screen tearing on GT5

Forza also seems to have better framearate

HailedJohnDman

FPS is way WAY to similar to be an issue here and is a mute point! A silly thing to even bring up if both have such a average / reasonable FPS.

Performance:This category left us rather shocked because performance expectations for Gran Turismo 5 were quite high. Unfortunately, we were left very disappointed and confused. Our analyzer recorded that Forza 3 had a much morestable frame rate throughout. As seen in the video, it's clear that Gran Turismo 5 was having difficulties maintaining it's projected 60 FPS, while Forza 3 was locked at a perfect 60 FPS throughout . In addition to the fluctuating frame rate, Gran Turismo 5 screen tore 20% more than Forza 3 did.

On a final note, on average both games performed pretty close to one another averaging around 60FPS while in-game. However, we noticed that your previous race would replay back at perfect 30FPS. Listed below are the average frame rate and screen tearing percentages.

Perhaps it would pay me to read the article 1st.... Damn lol

i hate it when people do that

just making assumptions without actually reading the article:x

[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]i wonder if people realize two Forza games were released during Gran Turismo 5's development time...hexashadow13

I thought these threads weren't trendy anymore. Stop doing them.

Head2Heads only make sense for different versions of the same game.

Head to head comparisons should only be for multiplatform games. Thats my opinion. Either way, from what Ive been told people are enjoying GT5 a lot so all these pointless comparisons are not detracting most people from the game, and it shouldnt, all they do is just add fuel to the already burning SW fire

WildDangles92

At the same time GT5 is nearly matcing forza 3 and has got more cars on the tract at once lol.Would that not make it superior in a sense? i mean its only a 3fps give or take and theres more models on track :S

At the same time GT5 is nearly matcing forza 3 and has got more cars on the tract at once lol.Would that not make it superior in a sense? i mean its only a 3fps give or take and theres more models on track :S

razgriz_101

Yep not to mention the models look better.

16 premiums on a track, vs 7.5 cars on forza and they both run within a couple of fps of each other. Clear winner there

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

At the same time GT5 is nearly matcing forza 3 and has got more cars on the tract at once lol.Would that not make it superior in a sense? i mean its only a 3fps give or take and theres more models on track :S

TheSterls

Yep not to mention the models look better.

debatable premiums yes,standard models maybe a couple out of 800.

16 premiums on a track, vs 7.5 cars on forza and they both run within a couple of fps of each other. Clear winner there

kate_jones

[QUOTE="kate_jones"]

16 premiums on a track, vs 7.5 cars on forza and they both run within a couple of fps of each other. Clear winner there

soulitane

forza 3 swaps out the player model for a low poly one while in gameplay, when you go to take a photo it replaces it with a proper model.

forza cant render 8 of its models in game play, hence the 7.5

[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="kate_jones"]

16 premiums on a track, vs 7.5 cars on forza and they both run within a couple of fps of each other. Clear winner there

kate_jones

forza 3 swaps out the player model for a low poly one while in gameplay, when you go to take a photo it replaces it with a proper model.

forza cant render 8 of its models in game play, hence the 7.5

oh god, reading the comments on the that comparison its pretty clear people still haven't got over the fact Forza 3 is a better racing game than GT5. Also from what i can tell the tracks they selected for the comparison were fairly generous for GT5; the screen tearing around Rome, the Nordschleife and especially Monza for some reason is beyond belief at times. Also for people mentioning ''but GT5 has 16 cars on track and they look better", the games performance gets even worse if all those cars are close together on the track, especially if they're all premium ones.

Having more cars, plus wider tracks and so on does take it's toll on performance.hoosier7

GT5 is the better game.

GT5 is the better game.

vkun

every other gaming website says otherwise?

[QUOTE="kate_jones"]

[QUOTE="soulitane"] 7.5 cars? where did that number come from?soulitane

forza 3 swaps out the player model for a low poly one while in gameplay, when you go to take a photo it replaces it with a proper model.

forza cant render 8 of its models in game play, hence the 7.5

Unless we should say GT technically has 2 cars on screen,since most of the time they're not premium models. And most of the non premium models have less polygons then a wingmirror of a forza car.

[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]i wonder if people realize two Forza games were released during Gran Turismo 5's development time...hexashadow13

Yeah and splinter cell conviction is better than uncharted 2 because ubisoft were also making assassins creed brotherhood :P

16 premiums on a track, vs 7.5 cars on forza and they both run within a couple of fps of each other. Clear winner there

kate_jones

Can anyone paste any real gameplay pics? Like how the games actually look during gameplay.

Can anyone paste any real gameplay pics? Like how the games actually look during gameplay.

nameless12345

Forza is a failboat of limited cars/features compared to GT5.

ALL complaints about GT5 are fixable via patch. Forza is perma-gimped.

How about them apples?

It's really not debateable, Forza is an inferior game. If you care about review scores please don't respond, your argument is irrelevant. In fact, don't respond if the "complaint" about GT5 is fixable via patch. That is something that people are ignoring.

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Can anyone paste any real gameplay pics? Like how the games actually look during gameplay.

haberman13

Forza is a failboat of limited cars/features compared to GT5.

ALL complaints about GT5 are fixable via patch. Forza is perma-gimped.

How about them apples?

It's really not debateable, Forza is an inferior game. If you care about review scores please don't respond, your argument is irrelevant. In fact, don't respond if the "complaint" about GT5 is fixable via patch. That is something that people are ignoring.

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Can anyone paste any real gameplay pics? Like how the games actually look during gameplay.

haberman13

Forza is a failboat of limited cars/features compared to GT5.

ALL complaints about GT5 are fixable via patch. Forza is perma-gimped.

How about them apples?

It's really not debateable, Forza is an inferior game. If you care about review scores please don't respond, your argument is irrelevant. In fact, don't respond if the "complaint" about GT5 is fixable via patch. That is something that people are ignoring.

Their should be a poll

[QUOTE="hexashadow13"][QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]i wonder if people realize two Forza games were released during Gran Turismo 5's development time...Skittles_McGee

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="hexashadow13"] I wonder if people realize that Polyphony released 2 games non GT5 based (Tourist Trophy and GT PSP), released Prologue, and did a lot of demos for car manufacturers presentations during GT5s development time.ermacness

[QUOTE="haberman13"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Can anyone paste any real gameplay pics? Like how the games actually look during gameplay.

Verge_6

Forza is a failboat of limited cars/features compared to GT5.

ALL complaints about GT5 are fixable via patch. Forza is perma-gimped.

How about them apples?

It's really not debateable, Forza is an inferior game. If you care about review scores please don't respond, your argument is irrelevant. In fact, don't respond if the "complaint" about GT5 is fixable via patch. That is something that people are ignoring.

"GT5 has 1,031 cars while Forza 3 comes with 421"

This alone nixes Forza, not to mention the unbelievablly awesomely modeled interior view of the "premium" cars in GT5. Its not even comparable.

GT5 is closer to an MMO racer (which I like, I'm a fan of the build-up), vs Forza's more casual and immediate style.

Noobs and fanboys use the AAA blah blah blah arguments. Feature/car/graphics/future patches all go to GT5. Forza is a dead game, GT5 is just getting started.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="haberman13"]

Forza is a failboat of limited cars/features compared to GT5.

ALL complaints about GT5 are fixable via patch. Forza is perma-gimped.

How about them apples?

It's really not debateable, Forza is an inferior game. If you care about review scores please don't respond, your argument is irrelevant. In fact, don't respond if the "complaint" about GT5 is fixable via patch. That is something that people are ignoring.

haberman13

"GT5 has 1,031 cars while Forza 3 comes with 421"

This alone nixes Forza, not to mention the unbelievablly awesomely modeled interior view of the "premium" cars in GT5. Its not even comparable.

GT5 is closer to an MMO racer (which I like, I'm a fan of the build-up), vs Forza's more casual and immediate style.

[QUOTE="haberman13"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"] Ohhhh wow. Not sure what to make of this...Verge_6

"GT5 has 1,031 cars while Forza 3 comes with 421"

This alone nixes Forza, not to mention the unbelievablly awesomely modeled interior view of the "premium" cars in GT5. Its not even comparable.

GT5 is closer to an MMO racer (which I like, I'm a fan of the build-up), vs Forza's more casual and immediate style.

I'm a fan of cars, and obviously GT5 has more cars, which doesn't mean quality ... but, it also has the quality over Forza; compare the M3 in GT5 to Forza for example.

Forza is sweet, no doubt, but it doesn't hold a candle to GT5 longterm.

Reading release day reviews is pointless, ESPECIALLY considering GT5 NEEDED/NEEDS patches (as a PC gamer this is NBD to me, if anything I like this).

Its like reviewing WoW in 2004 vs 2010, polish and development time have created a perfect gem. Forza is dead, GT5 is evolving and being actively worked on still, so 99% of reviews won't be applicable in 2 months.

Comparing base game to base game, Forza is inferior. Comparing GT5 in a year to Forza it will be obvious that Forza has been superceded.