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#1 Blake135
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http://au.ign.com/articles/2013/07/16/forza-motorsport-5-requires-one-time-internet-connection


Last Poster wasn't level 10 so im stealing the thread:P, thought it was interesting enough to deserve another post.

 

Flagship Xbox One launch title Forza Motorsport 5 which will make extensive use of the consoles cloud capabilities and always-online functionality will also be playable offline now that Microsoft has changed its policies. However, it will require a one-time connection to Xbox Live before you can play.

In an interview with IGN, Dan Greenawalt, the studio head at Forza developer Turn 10 Studios, clarified how their day-one racing game will work if your Xbox One isnt connected to Xbox Live.

So when you first boot up the game, were going to ask you to log in, he explained. And when you log in youre going to get the Drivatars and youre also going to get a whole bunch of content: tracks and cars. Our production schedule is such that we are putting them in as late as possible and that means making them free as downloadable content on Day One.



Were not making a launch game. Were making Forza 5, at launch.

[But] that is required content to play the game. We basically have designed the game to work with all that content no matter how late is coming in, in order to make the biggest game possible.

In other words, because games have to be submitted to Microsoft testing, certified, and then pressed onto discs and shipped, Forza 5 has to be done much, much sooner than November. By requiring part of the game as a download on launch day, it gives Turn 10 extra time to finish everything. And so what you get on the disc you buy at the store wont be the entire game. Youll need to download the rest of it from Xbox Live (which should be possible to occur as you play, Greenawalt clarified).

After that, Greenawalt said, Forza 5 is like your refrigerator. You have to fill it up with food the first time, he explained. And from then on, you connect whenever you want when you want to update your food. The Drivatars are as fresh as they are. Its not like theyre going to degrade, but when youre looking for new stuff fresh stuffits going to keep evolving. Thats the nature of this Drivatar system.



When you first boot up the game, were going to ask you to log in.

Drivatar is Forza 5s attempt at next-generation AI in that there is no pre-programmed artificial intelligence. Instead, a ghost version of yourself races on your behalf, using your repeated behavior and tendencies to mimic how youd race if you were actually playing. Drivatars of random gamers all over the world are what you race against in your single-player campaign.

To that end, Greenawalt told us, You do have to connect the game in order to get the latest Drivatars, because we need as many people training them as possible. And so rather than having just a launch-day set that was created by us, every day that people race is going to make the Drivatar set that much more accurate, that much more diverse, that much more interesting.

All of the cloud and online features make the game far, far better, Greenawalt summed up. In fact Id even say revolutionary. The things were doing with opponents and Drivatar are not something that anyone can envision unless youve played it. But were trying to get as much of that into the unconnected, offline mode as well.

Were not making a launch game. Were making Forza 5, at launch.


*The DayOne patch Is REQUIRED In order to run the game*


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OK. I will provide whacking material.

http://drsamuelbanda.blogspot.com/2012/12/black-orchid-cosplay.html

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#3 heeweesRus
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OK. I will provide whacking material.

http://drsamuelbanda.blogspot.com/2012/12/black-orchid-cosplay.html

timbers_WSU
lol timbers post
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#4 Blake135
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OK. I will provide whacking material.

http://drsamuelbanda.blogspot.com/2012/12/black-orchid-cosplay.html

timbers_WSU

Meh average seen alot better cosplays.

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#5 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]

OK. I will provide whacking material.

http://drsamuelbanda.blogspot.com/2012/12/black-orchid-cosplay.html

Blake135

Meh average seen alot better cosplays.

I've seen a lot of cosplay too, and that is far from average :)

BUT... let's keep this on topic, shall we? ;)

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#6 Blake135
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[QUOTE="Blake135"]

[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]

OK. I will provide whacking material.

http://drsamuelbanda.blogspot.com/2012/12/black-orchid-cosplay.html

AdobeArtist

Meh average seen alot better cosplays.

I've seen a lot of cosplay too, and that is far from average :)

BUT... let's keep this on topic, shall we? ;)

Fine Fine :D

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#7 GravityX
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Yeah this sucks for developers. Having to worry about the offline folks. I say make it online required. Like Titanfall.

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#8 timbers_WSU
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[QUOTE="Blake135"]

[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]

OK. I will provide whacking material.

http://drsamuelbanda.blogspot.com/2012/12/black-orchid-cosplay.html

AdobeArtist

Meh average seen alot better cosplays.

I've seen a lot of cosplay too, and that is far from average :)

BUT... let's keep this on topic, shall we? ;)

Like heeweesRus keeps things on topic? Or does he get a pass for being an idiot? Anyways back on topic. Forza 5 has everyone from Top Gear. Worth every penny and download.
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#9 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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Sucks for those with no net

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[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

[QUOTE="Blake135"]

Meh average seen alot better cosplays.

timbers_WSU

I've seen a lot of cosplay too, and that is far from average :)

BUT... let's keep this on topic, shall we? ;)

Like heeweesRus keeps things on topic? Or does he get a pass for being an idiot? Anyways back on topic. Forza 5 has everyone from Top Gear. Worth every penny and download.

now now simmer down boys

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#11 Clock-w0rk
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[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

I've seen a lot of cosplay too, and that is far from average :)

BUT... let's keep this on topic, shall we? ;)

timbers_WSU

Like heeweesRus keeps things on topic? Or does he get a pass for being an idiot? Anyways back on topic. Forza 5 has everyone from Top Gear. Worth every penny and download.

You're an idiot 100% of the time though, so you get no passes.

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#12 zarshack
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What i took away from this is, "we are in a rush to try and get this game done by launch and so we're going to have it release unfinished on the disc and try to patch in everything else later since we aren't finished yet".

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#13 WilliamRLBaker
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Anyone remember the day one patch for the ps3 that you needed just to connect to psn? yeah dont think sheens have much ammo here.

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#14 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

I've seen a lot of cosplay too, and that is far from average :)

BUT... let's keep this on topic, shall we? ;)

Clock-w0rk

Like heeweesRus keeps things on topic? Or does he get a pass for being an idiot? Anyways back on topic. Forza 5 has everyone from Top Gear. Worth every penny and download.

You're an idiot 100% of the time though, so you get no passes.

lol clock work judging someone else lol
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#15 timbers_WSU
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What i took away from this is, "we are in a rush to try and get this game done by launch and so we're going to have it release unfinished on the disc and try to patch in everything else later since we aren't finished yet".

zarshack
I got the opposite. Seams to me they are adding everything they would of had to take away after the DRM was dropped to give everyone the complete game.
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Anyone remember the day one patch for the ps3 that you needed just to connect to psn? yeah dont think sheens have much ammo here.

WilliamRLBaker
:lol: this should go in my quote bank. "Guys remember patch to get connect to online service? ownt!!!11" :lol:
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#17 Stinger78
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So you have to be Online, in order to play it Offline.
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#18 JangoWuzHere
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What i took away from this is, "we are in a rush to try and get this game done by launch and so we're going to have it release unfinished on the disc and try to patch in everything else later since we aren't finished yet".

zarshack

I don't see anything wrong with that. I think day one patches have become a standard now. 

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So DLC doesn't need to go through certification? 

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[QUOTE="Clock-w0rk"]

[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"] Like heeweesRus keeps things on topic? Or does he get a pass for being an idiot? Anyways back on topic. Forza 5 has everyone from Top Gear. Worth every penny and download. WilliamRLBaker

You're an idiot 100% of the time though, so you get no passes.

lol clock work judging someone else lol

Sorry Willy, didn't mean to insult your boyfriend :(

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#21 Harisemo
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So they are making a game that isn't even complete and requires a patch and good amount of data to be downloaded before you can play? so is the disc pretty much worthless if the online service is down and you don't have the patch?

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#22 double_a73
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I got the opposite. Seams to me they are adding everything they would of had to take away after the DRM was dropped to give everyone the complete game.timbers_WSU


Yeah, I'm thinking this too.  If developers have been told to expect always online for well over a year, their games were likely built with that in mind.  Microsoft changing that with less than 6 months until launch may have ruined a few developers plans.  I wouldn't be surprised if more launch window games are going to have this same problem along with similar fix.

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#23 TheFadeForever
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:roll: Froza

 

 

 
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#24 timbers_WSU
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:roll: Froza

 

 

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Yep. Best racer this gen. Looking forward to it.
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[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]

OK. I will provide whacking material.

http://drsamuelbanda.blogspot.com/2012/12/black-orchid-cosplay.html

heeweesRus

lol timbers post

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#26 stereointegrity
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why do u need a patch when the game is still in development.....
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="Clock-w0rk"]

You're an idiot 100% of the time though, so you get no passes.

Clock-w0rk

lol clock work judging someone else lol

Sorry Willy, didn't mean to insult your boyfriend :(

is that it? 1/10 I rate.
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#28 DerekLoffin
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why do u need a patch when the game is still in development.....stereointegrity
Because they actually have to start pressing the discs to make the launch date. Although it is several months out, obviously they feel they have little chance of making the last date possible for that with a working game, so instead they are going to patch it to working on launch day.
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#29 l34052
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What i took away from this is, "we are in a rush to try and get this game done by launch and so we're going to have it release unfinished on the disc and try to patch in everything else later since we aren't finished yet".

zarshack

This.

Will MS actually manage to get anythin at all right with this new console?!?!?!!

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#30 Everiez
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We're not making a launch game. We're making Forza 5, at launcharticle

LOL are you kidding me? After all that reasoning, the dev ended it up with this kind of statement.

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#31 mitu123
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So you have to be Online, in order to play it Offline.Stinger78
Pretty much.
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#32 Sweenix
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Ohh well, i'm not getting it anyways

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#33 MightyMuna
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Not cool. So basically the only thing on the disc is Setup.exe
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Still the best racing game for the next 2-3 years :cool:
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http://au.ign.com/articles/2013/07/16/forza-motorsport-5-requires-one-time-internet-connection

Blake135

Its not a patch, Forza has to sync up to servers. Much in the same way the Xbox One does when it is first turned on.

Plus your article even states "All of the cloud and online features make the game far, far better, Greenawalt summed up. In fact Id even say revolutionary. The things were doing with opponents and Drivatar are not something that anyone can envision unless youve played it."

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#36 razgriz_101
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this has GT5 written all over it.
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#37 RossRichard
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Translation: DRM.

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#38 dreman999
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So what? Every mordern pc game is like this. What's the issue?

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#39 SaltyMeatballs
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Xbox One requires an online update day one to function. Forza 5 requires an online patch day one to function. Dem internet requirements.
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#40 II_Seraphim_II
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So pretty much, the game isnt ready for launch, so instead they are gonna force it for launch by selling unfinished products that require u to download the rest of the game? Sucks for people who have internet bandwidth caps lol (like me :( ) Hope this is the exception, not the norm.
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#41 Senor_Kami
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Yeah this sucks for developers. Having to worry about the offline folks. I say make it online required. Like Titanfall.

GravityX
I don't think they're worrying. People who still don't have the internet in 2013 aren't the market for either next-gen console. To be honest, they haven't been the market for modern electronics since like 2007.
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#42 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="GravityX"]

Yeah this sucks for developers. Having to worry about the offline folks. I say make it online required. Like Titanfall.

Senor_Kami
I don't think they're worrying. People who still don't have the internet in 2013 aren't the market for either next-gen console. To be honest, they haven't been the market for modern electronics since like 2007.

I dont mind online check ins and the sort, my concern is downloading large files. I have bandwidth caps and that can easily chew down my internet :(
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#43 LordOfPoms
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This isn't a big deal. At all.
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#44 heretrix
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Holy crap. So you need internet access for a game that has always had a strong multiplayer component? What's next? Are you going to need a TV as well?

 

Why is this news again? It's not the most elegant solution but come on.

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#45 tagyhag
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If you don't have Internet for at the very least a day to activate a game then you shouldn't have the system to begin with. :P But I doubt we'd hear those complains from those people here on THE INTERNET.
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#46 kingtito
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Translation: DRM.

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Translation: You have no idea what you're talking about. It's a 1 time login to download the patch and content. You won't have to login once a day, week, month or year.