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Pulled this from this.

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It's always awesome when traditional media outlets start talking about video games. The hosts' lack of experience and understanding of the form and game opponents obviousideological axes-to-grindcreate a gigantic game of cultural Telephone, where know-nothing TV personalities invite gaming insiders to have a "debate", and each group completely misunderstands the other. Then everyone acts shocked, gets angry and yells. That's what I call informative!

Anyway, this morning, totally legitimate cable news station Fox News hosted Slash Gamer's Jon Christensen to talk Modern Warfare 2on Fox &Friends. I guess he's one of the titular Friends.Here's how it went down:

Fox Host: Jim, you got some problems with this game?

Jim: It's mainly for adults and a well made game, but there's no doubt there's a link between violent video games and kids.

Fox Host: Jon, you essentially get to be a terrorist and kill people and it's very realistic.

Jon: You're not actually a terrorist. You're a CIA undercover agent. You are infiltrating a terrorist organization and the game specifically says, when you go into, uh, when you work with this terrorist organization. You are...um... (Jon loses his train of thought, awkward moment)... You are a...a...a...uh...a...a...a...CIA operative. (chuckles) I'm sorry.

Fox Host: Jim at what age is this game appropriate or is it ever appropriate?

Jim: The main issue with violent video games, including very well made made games like COD. There's no question there's correlation between violent games and kids blah blah*. It's up to the parent to decide whether they buy the game for their son or daughter blah blah*. You need to use common sense.
*blah blah blah added by Kotaku reader Ryan

Fox Host: I'll give you the final word, Jon.

Jon: Kids can definitely pick up the game. If parents buy it for them. I have a buddy who's a manager of a store. Little kids came in to buy the game and he asked if they were over 17. They said no, so he didn't sell them the game. Retailers are doing a good job. It's been proven time and time again.

Fox Host: You bring a violent game into a house with an 8 year old, nothing to stop that kid from playing it and becoming a terrorist...on a video game.

Jon: That's ridiculous! You're not a terrorist! It's pixelated violence! You're not a terrorist!

Fox Host: It's violence.

Jon: (closing his eyes) It's not real. It's not real.

Fox Host: Jon and Jim. The debate goes on.

The "terrorist"level of Modern Warfare 2 does raise some questions about what content is appropriatein games,but it sure wasn't made on Fox. Ifound the level pretty disturbing, but that's okay. That just means it worked. I don't think people should kill other people, no matter what uniforms they're wearing, but this onlyapplies to real people. The fake people who live inside video games are fair game for anyone to murder-ize for any (or no) reason at all. But I don't want my kid to see until he's at least eight.

Do you think the fact that you're wearing a U.S. soldier outfit in MW 2 and taking out "bad" people makes the game okay for kids? Or is the point the violence itself?

Source: Kotaku

Fox News

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I laughed when he said,

"The main issue with violent video games, including very well made made games like COD. There's no question there's correlation between violent games and kids blah blah*. It's up to the parent to decide whether they buy the game for their son or daughter blah blah*. You need to use common sense.

How can you say,

"There's no question there's correlation between violent games and kids"

and then say,

"It's up to the parent to decide whether they buy the game for their son or daughter"

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All that says is that kids can become violent just as long as their parent buys them the game. There is a problem with that argument.

( I dont have a problem with violent games btw, just thought it was a weird statement)

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#2 Phaze-Two
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good publicity for activision... obviously what they wanted.

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Fox News = invalid

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#4 Burning-Sludge
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Fox News Host = Steve Doocy

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I was expecting Fox to be the one criticising the game and saying violent video games harm the children. I was surprised it was the interviewee and not them.

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#6 Nintendo_Ownes7
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I think what they meant to say was their is a correlation between violent games and violence among children but it is ultimately up to the parents to decide if they want their kids to play it.

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http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?Brutal_combat_game_storms_into_the_shops&in_article_id=766795&in_page_id=34 That article angered me, some quotes, "The 'shockingly brutal' Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 has been given an 18 certificate due to its 'blood, drug reference, intense violence and language'." Wrong, it was given an 18 purely on the violence, there's no drug use, and theres like one f word in the entire game. "'It contains such scenes of brutality that even the manufacturers have put in warnings within the game telling people how they can skip particular scenes,' he told MPs. The game, the sixth instalment in the franchise, sees players murder civilians in their quest to kill a Russian terrorist. " Yeah that's nothing what the story is about but hey, we're the media we can cherry pick and make up whatever we like. It especially angered me because that paper, even though it's free, is usually really good for not being biased, or spinning things, I think mainly because it is free.
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i believe if the kids recieve good parenting you can let them play any violent game at any age and they wont grow up to be violent people. most kids who go nuts after playing violent games usually have messed up family so i think parents should be blamed for violent behaviour of their kids.

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http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?Brutal_combat_game_storms_into_the_shops&in_article_id=766795&in_page_id=34 That article angered me, some quotes, "The 'shockingly brutal' Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 has been given an 18 certificate due to its 'blood, drug reference, intense violence and language'." Wrong, it was given an 18 purely on the violence, there's no drug use, and theres like one f word in the entire game. "'It contains such scenes of brutality that even the manufacturers have put in warnings within the game telling people how they can skip particular scenes,' he told MPs. The game, the sixth instalment in the franchise, sees players murder civilians in their quest to kill a Russian terrorist. " Yeah that's nothing what the story is about but hey, we're the media we can cherry pick and make up whatever we like. It especially angered me because that paper, even though it's free, is usually really good for not being biased, or spinning things, I think mainly because it is free.bobbetybob


The Metro? :P

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i believe if the kids recieve good parenting you can let them play any violent game at any age and they wont grow up to be violent people. most kids who go nuts after playing violent games usually have messed up family so i think parents should be blamed for violent behaviour of their kids.

sikanderahmed
thats the problem though. that way of raising kids is down the pooper. you cant even smack your own kid on the ass these days without the fear of losing them because of being an abusive parent. i was smacked plenty of times, and i learned from it, i also played many violent games and never commited a single crime in my life. i thing both parties are to blame here. IW obvously just did it for the media, but parents shouldnt care if they can raise their kids right
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News outlets just need to leave video games alone. I don't know why seeming every media person outside of the video gaming community says video games cause violence in kids. It's just not true.

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Why can't Fox News ever say something intelligent? How the hell does that stay on the air?
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Yea, fantasy violence is awful, but allowing real people to die because they get sick or have a pre-existing condition is great! And hey, at least it's not communist, socialist, etc.!

If Fox News cared so much about human life, their politics would be just a wee bit more to the left. As it it, they just like to bash everything and anything that they can get their crazy hands on.

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This is the kind of Controversy that's going to sell the game even more. Good news for sales watchers and ACTIVISION.

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Fox News = invalid

tutt3r

Thats what I was thinking. Here'sone of the best views on fox news - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6Uqk3fxFEs

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Fox News = invalid

tutt3r

Fox News = sensationalist retards (and that is being kind).

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Video I love how the guy states their is a correlation between violent games and aggression in kids that use them, when there is no proof anywhere of that. No one has been able to find a correlation.
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Yea, fantasy violence is awful, but allowing real people to die because they get sick or have a pre-existing condition is great! And hey, at least it's not communist, socialist, etc.!

If Fox News cared so much about human life, their politics would be just a wee bit more to the left. As it it, they just like to bash everything and anything that they can get their crazy hands on.

WAIW
There is a difference between letting die and sticking a gun in someones mouth and pulling the trigger. :|
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But isn't MW2 the neocon dream game? :|

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I think what they meant to say was their is a correlation between violent games and violence among children but it is ultimately up to the parents to decide if they want their kids to play it.

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He said there is a definitive link between violent video games and kids, then says it's all alright just as long as the kids' parents buy it for them. It's a contradictory statement with the rest of Fox's stance on violence.
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Yea, fantasy violence is awful, but allowing real people to die because they get sick or have a pre-existing condition is great! And hey, at least it's not communist, socialist, etc.!

If Fox News cared so much about human life, their politics would be just a wee bit more to the left. As it it, they just like to bash everything and anything that they can get their crazy hands on.

WAIW

Yeah yeah! Lets save everyone with a giant bureaucracy. Everyone knows pencil pushers and the death panelist want whats best for us and not just more power. They really care about us and that is why they are going to violate the constitution to force Americans to buy their brand of health prepay or send them to jail.

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Who cares? Anyone remember how much heat Mortal Kombat used to get? They can complain all they want, it won't stop people from playing.

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[QUOTE="WAIW"]

Yea, fantasy violence is awful, but allowing real people to die because they get sick or have a pre-existing condition is great! And hey, at least it's not communist, socialist, etc.!

If Fox News cared so much about human life, their politics would be just a wee bit more to the left. As it it, they just like to bash everything and anything that they can get their crazy hands on.

Burning-Sludge

Yeah yeah! Lets save everyone with a giant bureaucracy. Everyone knows pencil pushers and the death panelist want whats best for us and not just more power. They really care about us and that is why they are going to violate the constitution to force Americans to buy their brand of health prepay or send them to jail.

wow dude. Read a book. You know we are like the only country that makes money on sick people right? You know that the health care big wigs care about nothing but their bottom line right? You know that people wanted a public OPTION, not MANDATE right? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6Uqk3fxFEs

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If you want to bash Fox News for this, then fine. But to bash Fox News over their obviously more conservative commentators is ridiculous.

If you want to trash some craptastic biased news station, then go over to MSNBC. They have a commentator who admitted on tv that Obama gave him a tingly feeling up his leg. :| And they tried to push Tucker Carlson out (which they were successful with and saved face on) because he was a libertarian and wasn't kissing Obama 24/7.

Biased media is trash and MSNBC is the leader. If you want to give Fox News crap on their awful MW2 coverage, then that's all well and good, but let's point fingers at those who deserve it when it comes to corrupt news organizations.

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If you want to bash Fox News for this, then fine. But to bash Fox News over their obviously more conservative commentators is ridiculous.

If you want to trash some craptastic biased news station, then go over to MSNBC. They have a commentator who admitted on tv that Obama gave him a tingly feeling up his leg. :| And they tried to push Tucker Carlson out (which they were successful with and saved face on) because he was a libertarian and wasn't kissing Obama 24/7.

Biased media is trash and MSNBC is the leader. If you want to give Fox News crap on their awful MW2 coverage, then that's all well and good, but let's point fingers at those who deserve it when it comes to corrupt news organizations.

BioShockOwnz

are you really suggesting that fox news doesn't deserve bashing?

:lol:

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[QUOTE="Burning-Sludge"]

[QUOTE="WAIW"]

Yea, fantasy violence is awful, but allowing real people to die because they get sick or have a pre-existing condition is great! And hey, at least it's not communist, socialist, etc.!

If Fox News cared so much about human life, their politics would be just a wee bit more to the left. As it it, they just like to bash everything and anything that they can get their crazy hands on.

SpideR_CentS

Yeah yeah! Lets save everyone with a giant bureaucracy. Everyone knows pencil pushers and the death panelist want whats best for us and not just more power. They really care about us and that is why they are going to violate the constitution to force Americans to buy their brand of health prepay or send them to jail.

wow dude. Read a book. You know we are like the only country that makes money on sick people right? You know that the health care big wigs care about nothing but their bottom line right? You know that people wanted a public OPTION, not MANDATE right? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6Uqk3fxFEs

Money is all what any buisness wants. It's better that someone makes money on sick people and they get better than we having them die in a line to a hospital. Besides if Obama-care gets passed he and is progressive friends is going to slowly expand it so to have complete control over everything everybody does for "health reasons".

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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

If you want to bash Fox News for this, then fine. But to bash Fox News over their obviously more conservative commentators is ridiculous.

If you want to trash some craptastic biased news station, then go over to MSNBC. They have a commentator who admitted on tv that Obama gave him a tingly feeling up his leg. :| And they tried to push Tucker Carlson out (which they were successful with and saved face on) because he was a libertarian and wasn't kissing Obama 24/7.

Biased media is trash and MSNBC is the leader. If you want to give Fox News crap on their awful MW2 coverage, then that's all well and good, but let's point fingers at those who deserve it when it comes to corrupt news organizations.

Phaze-Two

are you really suggesting that fox news doesn't deserve bashing?

:lol:

I said there are many more new organizations which are more corrupt, one sided, and straight ****** up than Fox News. This is a fact, plain and simple. It's a cliche to bash Fox News. They're an easy target. Wanna know why? Because they're #1. MSNBC is pure gutter trash of the highest degree. Omg, Glenn Beck is a crazy person who loves the constitution. Omg, Bill O' is crazy person who likes to curse like a madman. We know all this and it's common place to see gamers drive themselves up walls over Fox News, as Fox News tends to criticize violence in gaming more than anyone. But the liberal agenda has had far more worse effects on gaming than the conservative agenda (ie: Hillary Clinton and many other progressives).

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[QUOTE="Phaze-Two"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

If you want to bash Fox News for this, then fine. But to bash Fox News over their obviously more conservative commentators is ridiculous.

If you want to trash some craptastic biased news station, then go over to MSNBC. They have a commentator who admitted on tv that Obama gave him a tingly feeling up his leg. :| And they tried to push Tucker Carlson out (which they were successful with and saved face on) because he was a libertarian and wasn't kissing Obama 24/7.

Biased media is trash and MSNBC is the leader. If you want to give Fox News crap on their awful MW2 coverage, then that's all well and good, but let's point fingers at those who deserve it when it comes to corrupt news organizations.

BioShockOwnz

are you really suggesting that fox news doesn't deserve bashing?

:lol:

I said there are many more new organizations which are more corrupt, one sided, and straight ****** up than Fox News. This is a fact, plain and simple. It's a cliche to bash Fox News. They're an easy target. Wanna know why? Because they're #1. MSNBC is pure gutter trash of the highest degree. Omg, Glenn Beck is a crazy person who loves the constitution. Omg, Bill O' is crazy person who likes to curse like a madman. We know all this and it's common place to see gamers drive themselves up walls over Fox News, as Fox News tends to criticize violence in gaming more than anyone. But the liberal agenda has had far more worse effects on gaming than the conservative agenda (ie: Hillary Clinton and many other progressives).

...And there it is!!!

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Video I love how the guy states their is a correlation between violent games and aggression in kids that use them, when there is no proof anywhere of that. No one has been able to find a correlation. AAllxxjjnn

That's exactly what I was thinking, but the guy defending the game did a horrible job...on top of that giving them 1 minute to discuss this? Why bother?

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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="Phaze-Two"]

are you really suggesting that fox news doesn't deserve bashing?

:lol:

svetzenlether

I said there are many more new organizations which are more corrupt, one sided, and straight ****** up than Fox News. This is a fact, plain and simple. It's a cliche to bash Fox News. They're an easy target. Wanna know why? Because they're #1. MSNBC is pure gutter trash of the highest degree. Omg, Glenn Beck is a crazy person who loves the constitution. Omg, Bill O' is crazy person who likes to curse like a madman. We know all this and it's common place to see gamers drive themselves up walls over Fox News, as Fox News tends to criticize violence in gaming more than anyone. But the liberal agenda has had far more worse effects on gaming than the conservative agenda (ie: Hillary Clinton and many other progressives).

...And there it is!!!

What are you alluding to?

If you think I'm a Republican, I'm not.

That is a simple fact.

Fox News has no power to make policy, but the liberal/progressive politicians do have the power. These same progressives who praise Mao, Chavez, etc. Leaders who believe in the highest form of censorship.

If you're afraid about the public perception of gaming and the like, then I'd hold the politicians to the fire, not some silly commentators on Fox News.

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Well, Fox News is a cesspool anyway.

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[QUOTE="svetzenlether"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

I said there are many more new organizations which are more corrupt, one sided, and straight ****** up than Fox News. This is a fact, plain and simple. It's a cliche to bash Fox News. They're an easy target. Wanna know why? Because they're #1. MSNBC is pure gutter trash of the highest degree. Omg, Glenn Beck is a crazy person who loves the constitution. Omg, Bill O' is crazy person who likes to curse like a madman. We know all this and it's common place to see gamers drive themselves up walls over Fox News, as Fox News tends to criticize violence in gaming more than anyone. But the liberal agenda has had far more worse effects on gaming than the conservative agenda (ie: Hillary Clinton and many other progressives).

BioShockOwnz

...And there it is!!!

What are you alluding to?

If you think I'm a Republican, I'm not.

That is a simple fact.

Fox News has no power to make policy, but the liberal/progressive politicians do have the power. These same progressives who praise Mao, Chavez, etc. Leaders who believe in the highest form of censorship.

If you're afraid about the public perception of gaming and the like, then I'd hold the politicians to the fire, not some silly commentators on Fox News.

I agree with that at least

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE-nOCy7FfE Here's the video. It's expected though.
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[QUOTE="Phaze-Two"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

If you want to bash Fox News for this, then fine. But to bash Fox News over their obviously more conservative commentators is ridiculous.

If you want to trash some craptastic biased news station, then go over to MSNBC. They have a commentator who admitted on tv that Obama gave him a tingly feeling up his leg. :| And they tried to push Tucker Carlson out (which they were successful with and saved face on) because he was a libertarian and wasn't kissing Obama 24/7.

Biased media is trash and MSNBC is the leader. If you want to give Fox News crap on their awful MW2 coverage, then that's all well and good, but let's point fingers at those who deserve it when it comes to corrupt news organizations.

BioShockOwnz

are you really suggesting that fox news doesn't deserve bashing?

:lol:

I said there are many more new organizations which are more corrupt, one sided, and straight ****** up than Fox News. This is a fact, plain and simple. It's a cliche to bash Fox News. They're an easy target. Wanna know why? Because they're #1. MSNBC is pure gutter trash of the highest degree. Omg, Glenn Beck is a crazy person who loves the constitution. Omg, Bill O' is crazy person who likes to curse like a madman. We know all this and it's common place to see gamers drive themselves up walls over Fox News, as Fox News tends to criticize violence in gaming more than anyone. But the liberal agenda has had far more worse effects on gaming than the conservative agenda (ie: Hillary Clinton and many other progressives).

Stands up and claps to that one. Well said, Bio.

Double standards in the corporate owned and controlled mainstream media makes me sick. The White House can launch a war on FOX News (I can't stand Fox by the way), yet MSNBC is so far to the left it is beyond comical. That is ok, though, because they have their mouths firmly planted on the Obama administration's rear end. Pretty much the mirror opposite of Bush saying, "You are either with us or you are with the terrorists." No difference, it's just the shoe on the other foot. Republican/Democrat....2 sides of the same tarnished, worthless coin.

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This still pisses me off more ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKzF173GqTU
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#37 masterdante
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Man why does the only conservative news channell on tv have to be so bad... I mean come on lol I feel bad for republicans because alot of other channels are mostly swung to the left but they just aren't as ridiculous as fox news so no one really notices as much.. *sigh

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#38 3sFan
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[QUOTE="tutt3r"]

Fox News = invalid

skektek

Fox News = sensationalist retards (and that is being kind).

Not that doctor thats on Sunday mornings ... I think its called Housecall.

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#39 VendettaRed07
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[QUOTE="Phaze-Two"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

If you want to bash Fox News for this, then fine. But to bash Fox News over their obviously more conservative commentators is ridiculous.

If you want to trash some craptastic biased news station, then go over to MSNBC. They have a commentator who admitted on tv that Obama gave him a tingly feeling up his leg. :| And they tried to push Tucker Carlson out (which they were successful with and saved face on) because he was a libertarian and wasn't kissing Obama 24/7.

Biased media is trash and MSNBC is the leader. If you want to give Fox News crap on their awful MW2 coverage, then that's all well and good, but let's point fingers at those who deserve it when it comes to corrupt news organizations.

BioShockOwnz

are you really suggesting that fox news doesn't deserve bashing?

:lol:

I said there are many more new organizations which are more corrupt, one sided, and straight ****** up than Fox News. This is a fact, plain and simple. It's a cliche to bash Fox News. They're an easy target. Wanna know why? Because they're #1. MSNBC is pure gutter trash of the highest degree. Omg, Glenn Beck is a crazy person who loves the constitution. Omg, Bill O' is crazy person who likes to curse like a madman. We know all this and it's common place to see gamers drive themselves up walls over Fox News, as Fox News tends to criticize violence in gaming more than anyone. But the liberal agenda has had far more worse effects on gaming than the conservative agenda (ie: Hillary Clinton and many other progressives).

Well said. I completely agree. I sometimes watch fox news and idk its not as bad as people make it out to be. They do get alot of nuts on there but for the most part 90% of the time they are a normal valid news station imo. Its just that 10% of the time that gets up on the internet that everyone sees that doesn't watch any news station and thinks its cool to bash it because its conservative. Most other stations are just as bad if not way worse than fox

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#40 bokiloki
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Fox News- Fair Balanced and Protecting America. LMFAO what a bunch of coservative idiots over there.

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#41 WAIW
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[QUOTE="WAIW"] There is a difference between letting die and sticking a gun in someones mouth and pulling the trigger. :|Vandalvideo
True. Modern Warfare does not do wither one... It's virtual.

[QUOTE="WAIW"]

Yea, fantasy violence is awful, but allowing real people to die because they get sick or have a pre-existing condition is great! And hey, at least it's not communist, socialist, etc.!

If Fox News cared so much about human life, their politics would be just a wee bit more to the left. As it it, they just like to bash everything and anything that they can get their crazy hands on.

Burning-Sludge

Yeah yeah! Lets save everyone with a giant bureaucracy. Everyone knows pencil pushers and the death panelist want whats best for us and not just more power. They really care about us and that is why they are going to violate the constitution to force Americans to buy their brand of health prepay or send them to jail.

My point was that they like to bash everything, not that health care reform is good. Sorry for not making that more clear :)

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#42 Burning-Sludge
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[QUOTE="Burning-Sludge"]

[QUOTE="WAIW"]

Yea, fantasy violence is awful, but allowing real people to die because they get sick or have a pre-existing condition is great! And hey, at least it's not communist, socialist, etc.!

If Fox News cared so much about human life, their politics would be just a wee bit more to the left. As it it, they just like to bash everything and anything that they can get their crazy hands on.

WAIW

Yeah yeah! Lets save everyone with a giant bureaucracy. Everyone knows pencil pushers and the death panelist want whats best for us and not just more power. They really care about us and that is why they are going to violate the constitution to force Americans to buy their brand of health prepay or send them to jail.

My point was that they like to bash everything, not that health care reform is good. Sorry for not making that more clear :)

News gets ratings by scaring viewers into submission so they can't change the channel and talking heads like to bash everything, so your comment is true.

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#43 DumbDubya
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Fox News = Fake News

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#44 topgunmv
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[QUOTE="WAIW"][QUOTE="Burning-Sludge"]

Yeah yeah! Lets save everyone with a giant bureaucracy. Everyone knows pencil pushers and the death panelist want whats best for us and not just more power. They really care about us and that is why they are going to violate the constitution to force Americans to buy their brand of health prepay or send them to jail.

Burning-Sludge

My point was that they like to bash everything, not that health care reform is good. Sorry for not making that more clear :)

News gets ratings by scaring viewers into submission so they can't change the channel and talking heads like to bash everything, so your comment is true.

American news is more about entertainment than it is about informing now.

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#45 Burning-Sludge
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Fox News = Fake News

DumbDubya

"Wii = Fake Console"

I seen all of the poppycock before.

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#46 Pixel-Pirate
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I honestly get ill when FOX news is on.

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Fox news =

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#48 Tragic_Kingdom7
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[QUOTE="Phaze-Two"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

If you want to bash Fox News for this, then fine. But to bash Fox News over their obviously more conservative commentators is ridiculous.

If you want to trash some craptastic biased news station, then go over to MSNBC. They have a commentator who admitted on tv that Obama gave him a tingly feeling up his leg. :| And they tried to push Tucker Carlson out (which they were successful with and saved face on) because he was a libertarian and wasn't kissing Obama 24/7.

Biased media is trash and MSNBC is the leader. If you want to give Fox News crap on their awful MW2 coverage, then that's all well and good, but let's point fingers at those who deserve it when it comes to corrupt news organizations.

BioShockOwnz

are you really suggesting that fox news doesn't deserve bashing?

:lol:

I said there are many more new organizations which are more corrupt, one sided, and straight ****** up than Fox News. This is a fact, plain and simple. It's a cliche to bash Fox News. They're an easy target. Wanna know why? Because they're #1. MSNBC is pure gutter trash of the highest degree. Omg, Glenn Beck is a crazy person who loves the constitution. Omg, Bill O' is crazy person who likes to curse like a madman. We know all this and it's common place to see gamers drive themselves up walls over Fox News, as Fox News tends to criticize violence in gaming more than anyone. But the liberal agenda has had far more worse effects on gaming than the conservative agenda (ie: Hillary Clinton and many other progressives).

That is not a "fact" at all, just your own bias. FOX News is no better than MSNBC. It's just a different flavor of crap.

You say you're not a Republican, but you sure sound like one with all that rightwing cliched garbage that you're posting.

And lol at you're skewed vision of progressives. Nobody worships Chavez or Moa. You just believe everything in your little alternative reality that you've set up in your mind. You believe in "progressive boogeyman" that you've constructed for yourself.

Fox is #1 because its sensationalist and because there are more liberal media outlets which split the liberal audience among them. Fox, as the only conservative outlet, has no competition. Don't confuse those things with any kind of journalistic quality.

Glen Beck is not crazy because he loves the constitution. He's crazy because he acts like a lunatic. And he cries. What a clown.

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Faux news at it's finest. I guess Infinity Ward took a page from Rockstar: Publicity Sells.

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#50 BioShockOwnz
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That is not a "fact" at all, just your own bias. FOX News is no better than MSNBC. It's just a different flavor of crap.

You say you're not a Republican, but you sure sound like one with all that rightwing cliched garbage that you're posting.

And lol at you're skewed vision of progressives. Nobody worships Chavez or Moa. You just believe everything in your little alternative reality that you've set up in your mind. You believe in "progressive boogeyman" that you've constructed for yourself.

Fox is #1 because its sensationalist and because there are more liberal media outlets which split the liberal audience among them. Fox, as the only conservative outlet, has no competition. Don't confuse those things with any kind of journalistic quality.

Glen Beck is not crazy because he loves the constitution. He's crazy because he acts like a lunatic. And he cries. What a clown.

Tragic_Kingdom7

Nope, it's a fact. Fact.

And the accusations are always cute and all, but I'm no Republican.

I'm a libertarian...

http://www.larian.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=391625#Post391625

Anywho, now that the accusation BS can be put to rest, I'll get to the rest. K?

Here we go. Bio lession time!

Nobody worships Mao or Chavez? Wrong. Many of the progressives who Obama has in his administration as "czars" are Mao and Chavez fans. And many have praised them. That's a fact. There's videos, interviews, etc. But hey, that's not the worst of my concern. His science czar believes in contaminated water for population control, which is stated in a book John Holdren wrote. That's even more terrifying.

Whether you think Glenn Beck is crazy or not is none of my concern. I truly do not care. I don't care if you're a progressive. I just don't care. No offense.