Frank O'Connor shuts up the internet

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#1 4_Horsemen
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Halo 3 graphics to improve
31 May 2007 10:10am

Frank O'Connor shuts up the internet

You've heard the crying, you've put up with the moaning, you've cursed the complaining.

So praise the Lord that Bungie's Frank O'Connor has decided to speak up to confirm that Halo 3 will be sporting sexier graphics when fully released.

The graphical polish, or more importantly the lack of, has been the one sticking point with Halo fans playing the beta. Since the beta has been bestowed upon the general public, the general public has been racing to internet forums to shout at Bungie, moaning that Halo 3 is more like Halo 2 HD and the expected graphical jump simply isn't there. While there has been little complaint about Halo 3's gameplay, the visuals have been kicked from pillar to post.

Stepping into the over-sized shoes of Captain Obvious, Frank points out that the multiplayer graphics are tuned up for efficiency rather than beauty. "Multiplayer is by necessity a more sterile iteration of our graphical ****and will always be tuned for performance and elegance rather than jamming the screen full of pixels," he explains. "We think that the final aesthetic look of our game will be judged at launch in September and in part based on the more intense single player spaces. We're also focused on maintaining the Halo character and atmosphere in our visual design - we're competing with ourselves, and not simply trying to match the aesthetic of other games. We think that folks will be happy with Halo 3's graphical polish come September."

So there. The message is don't judge the graphics now, judge them in September. Another argument put to bed. Now, who wants to start the 'Spartan Laser is overpowered!' movement?

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http://www.oxm.co.uk/articles/news/1st_person/halo_3_graphics_to_improve
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#3 jessesalinas
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Fanboys will be all over this like white on Rice.

 

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#4 supermechakirby
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I am tired of hearing how great it looks I wanna see it damnit, if it looks so great, prove it damnit

 

 

that doesnt shut up crap

 

and I am a halomaniac, the beta looks great, but could be better 

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#5 4_Horsemen
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I am tired of hearing how great it looks I wanna see it damnit, if it looks so great, prove it damnit

 

 

that doesnt shut up crap

 

and I am a halomaniac, the beta looks great, but could be better 

supermechakirby
The rest of the internet has shut up.:lol:
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#6 Runningflame570
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Like I said in the first thread...They ****ing BETTER improve them and by a large amount or it will warrant AT BEST a 7 in graphics and thats based off of the current standard. I'm seeing some things that look to blow the current standard away.
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#7 Forza_2
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He sounds like the multiplayer will look slightly better when it ships...
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#8 Teh_Stevz
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that doesnt shut up crapsupermechakirby
+1
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#9 GXR
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Like I said in the first thread...They ****ing BETTER improve them and by a large amount or it will warrant AT BEST a 7 in graphics and thats based off of the current standard. I'm seeing some things that look to blow the current standard away.Runningflame570

 

Att this point I think halo 3 looks and handles amazing.

Im not a halo fan.. but comon..  this game looks sweet

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#10 No_worrys_mate
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I always knew the graphics would be upgrade, Hopefully the gameplay will be tweaked as much as possible and everything even because Halo 2 wasnt from the small amount of games i played on it, But my biggist concern and i dont know if its in all the Halos is that when you unload a full clip and go into for the mele attack your spartan will try to reload and you wont be able to mele and i think that is pathetic. 

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#11 Runningflame570
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Att this point I think halo 3 looks and handles amazing.

Im not a halo fan.. but comon.. this game looks sweet

GXR

Except it doesn't. Even assuming that a quarter of the detail was removed for efficiency's sake in the multiplayer it looks well below many of the other titles releasing around the same time. Besides, I don't buy that argument that multiplayer should look worse..

Unreal Tournament 3 in its uncompleted stage already looks pretty amazing and is a multi-player only game. It makes no sense for multiplayer to look like garbage in Halo 3 when thats people spend the most time by far on.

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Except it doesn't. Even assuming that a quarter of the detail was removed for efficiency's sake in the multiplayer it looks well below many of the other titles releasing around the same time. Besides, I don't buy that argument that multiplayer should look worse..

Unreal Tournament 3 in its uncompleted stage already looks pretty amazing and is a multi-player only game. It makes no sense for multiplayer to look like garbage in Halo 3 when thats people spend the most time by far on.

Runningflame570

First, it's true what they said about the multiplayer and efficiency. (R6:V anyone ?)

Second, UT3 is NOT a multiplayer-only game.

 

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#13 4_Horsemen
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[QUOTE="Runningflame570"]Except it doesn't. Even assuming that a quarter of the detail was removed for efficiency's sake in the multiplayer it looks well below many of the other titles releasing around the same time. Besides, I don't buy that argument that multiplayer should look worse..

Unreal Tournament 3 in its uncompleted stage already looks pretty amazing and is a multi-player only game. It makes no sense for multiplayer to look like garbage in Halo 3 when thats people spend the most time by far on.

Forza_2

First, it's true what they said about the multiplayer and efficiency. (R6:V anyone ?)

Second, UT3 is NOT a multiplayer-only game.

 

I believe that UT3 had to run it's multiplayer in polished near-finished graphics because it's Epics second example of what kind of graphics you can make with the Unreal Engine 3. The first being Gears of course. Not only are they trying to make a great game. They're also advertising the power of the Engine to companies who haven't jumped on the Unreal Engine 3 bandwagon. After all acquiring the lincense to develope using this tool costs a $1,000,000.:shock:

As far as Halo 3 is concern. Getting the gameplay spot on has been Bungie's agenda, not graphics. They tested Halo2 within the Microsoft employees. Played on private servers. Now the Halo 3 tests have included anybody dumb enough to purchase a game for the purpose of playing a demo running a few weeks. Bungie has made sure to call these Halo 3 tests "Beta". To make it understood that this by no means is the finished game. People play the demo and cry about it like it's the finished game. :cry:.

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#14 rainman67
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All they need to do is release one phenomenal looking screenshot and everyone will shut up until september.
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#15 CB4McGusto
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All we need is a picture of Killzone 2, Haze, Crysis, and UT3 and we can turn this thread into 40 pages of straight chaos.  Anybody want to cast the first stone?

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Okay I'll do it. :roll:

*grabs flame shield*

*go looks for non gameplay pictures of each fps I listed*

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#16 Michael85
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If I were him, I'd keep it as is on purpose just to piss off the forumites.  People who complain that much don't deserve anything better.
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#17 BlazeDragon132
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Yeah, in a Beta chat I had with him, he says the build that people have is 2 months old.

Also, Bungie is suppose to release single player pics soon enough. 

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#18 killaj2786
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All we need is a picture of Killzone 2, Haze, Crysis, and UT3 and we can turn this thread into 40 pages of straight chaos. Anybody want to cast the first stone?

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Okay I'll do it. :roll:

*grabs flame shield*

*go looks for non gameplay pictures of each fps I listed*

CB4McGusto

Oh god here we go... 

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#19 SpruceCaboose
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    Halo looks like Halo. Imaging that. And no, the Spartan laser is a great weapon when used correctly, and it is beat-able, you just need to use strategy.
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#20 Grive
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Halo looks like Halo. Imaging that. And no, the Spartan laser is a great weapon when used correctly, and it is beat-able, you just need to use strategy.SpruceCaboose

"don't run headlong into the guy shooting your assault rifle", or alternately "cover". At least half my laser kills have been done in this manner (the other half, mixture of hitting warthogs on team games or guys flying from the man cannon). 

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#21 jessesalinas
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Unreal Tournament 2007

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#22 waynehead895
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I don't think the Spartan Laser is over powered. I love using it but I often find myself in tough situations with it.
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#23 Mudig
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So basically you expected him to come out and say...the final product will be what you see here.
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#24 JiveT
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It stinks when you get caught in open ground with the laser pointing at you. If you have the laser yourself though and you are kind of looking around for something to shoot it can be a liability because it takes awhile to charge it up.

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#25 Eddie-Vedder
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This proves what cows have been saying all along the halo 3 beta grafix are nothing special.
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#26 Mudig
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This proves what cows have been saying all along the halo 3 beta grafix are nothing special.Eddie-Vedder

You think we haven't been saying that either? Are so dense?Â