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#1 king_bobo
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In your opinion, what do you think is the most likely and/or best thing that could save them?

Personally, with things getting as competitive as they are between Xbox 360 and PS3 (and knowing that Timesplitters 4 and Star Wars Battlefront III are such amazing games) it would seem to me that it would make most sense if Microsoft or Sony bought them. The way I see it, if both of those games were exclusive to one console, it would really help sell the system...

What are your thoughts?

Here's an update from a Free Radical ex-employee on the curren status of Free Radical stuff:

http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/946/946015p1.html

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#2 mamkem6
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Well on profitability note best thing to do is to be bought by MS and to make multyplatform games
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#3 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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If they decide to go multiplat instead of console exclusive with a failure like the ps3.
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If they decide to go multiplat instead of console exclusive with a failure like the ps3.Gh0st_Of_0nyx
I'm sorry but I can't understand what you're trying to say. Are you saying if they went exclusive it would fail like (in your opinion) the PS3? If that's what you are saying, I'm afraid I don't agree in two ways - 1) Both consoles have a large user base, so it should sell well on either console (it may even help sell more of that console, and so that's why it would be possible that either Microsoft or Sony would choose to buy it). 2) PS3 isn't a success in the same way as the PS2 was, but it certainly isn't a failure - PSN is a thriving community, Blu-Ray beat HD-DVD, PS3 exclusives are incredible and it continues to sell a great deal. If that's not what you're saying, could someone please explain (if they can) what they are saying...
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]If they decide to go multiplat instead of console exclusive with a failure like the ps3.thespywholied
lol you fail.

Actually, he is right. You fail at being original.
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[QUOTE="thespywholied"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]If they decide to go multiplat instead of console exclusive with a failure like the ps3.Gamingcucumber
lol you fail.

Actually, he is right. You fail at being original.

ssssssssssad face :(
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#8 The_Game_Critic
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I for one do not have any personal objection to either Microsoft or Sony buying Free Radical. I do not think however, that Starwars BattleFront III should be exclusive to any platform. In order to make money -which the gaming industry desperately needs- multi-platform titles would be the best way forward. It would be a shame for Free Radical to just disappear along with it's frankly brilliant roster of potential games. If neither company is interested in purchasing Free Radical -i mean come on Microsoft bought Rare lol- i hope the development of the games is passed on to a different company. How about Pandemic make SWBIII?
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#9 ras2009
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[QUOTE="Gamingcucumber"][QUOTE="thespywholied"] lol you fail.thespywholied
Actually, he is right. You fail at being original.

ssssssssssad face :(

How ain't a black man with a face like a slapped ass original?
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#10 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]If they decide to go multiplat instead of console exclusive with a failure like the ps3.king_bobo
I'm sorry but I can't understand what you're trying to say. Are you saying if they went exclusive it would fail like (in your opinion) the PS3? If that's what you are saying, I'm afraid I don't agree in two ways - 1) Both consoles have a large user base, so it should sell well on either console (it may even help sell more of that console, and so that's why it would be possible that either Microsoft or Sony would choose to buy it). 2) PS3 isn't a success in the same way as the PS2 was, but it certainly isn't a failure - PSN is a thriving community, Blu-Ray beat HD-DVD, PS3 exclusives are incredible and it continues to sell a great deal. If that's not what you're saying, could someone please explain (if they can) what they are saying...

1.It would sell BETTER on the 360 then on the ps3. Looks at Haze's sales then come back and say it would sell well on the ps3 :|

2. Ps3 is infact a failure, Lost exclusives, horrible software sales, horrible hardware sales (points out last months NPD numbers) and as you pointed out more people use it as a Blu ray player then a actual game machine :roll:

Im saying if FR stays afloat and goes multiplat then they have a chance of being the successful developer they were last gen with the timeplsitters series. But since they went exclusive with a failure like the ps3 it basically killed them because no one bought there game.

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#11 king_bobo
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[QUOTE="king_bobo"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]If they decide to go multiplat instead of console exclusive with a failure like the ps3.Gh0st_Of_0nyx

I'm sorry but I can't understand what you're trying to say. Are you saying if they went exclusive it would fail like (in your opinion) the PS3? If that's what you are saying, I'm afraid I don't agree in two ways - 1) Both consoles have a large user base, so it should sell well on either console (it may even help sell more of that console, and so that's why it would be possible that either Microsoft or Sony would choose to buy it). 2) PS3 isn't a success in the same way as the PS2 was, but it certainly isn't a failure - PSN is a thriving community, Blu-Ray beat HD-DVD, PS3 exclusives are incredible and it continues to sell a great deal. If that's not what you're saying, could someone please explain (if they can) what they are saying...

1.It would sell BETTER on the 360 then on the ps3. Looks at Haze's sales then come back and say it would sell well on the ps3 :|

2. Ps3 is infact a failure, Lost exclusives, horrible software sales, horrible hardware sales (points out last months NPD numbers) and as you pointed out more people use it as a Blu ray player then a actual game machine :roll:

Im saying if FR stays afloat and goes multiplat then they have a chance of being the successful developer they were last gen with the timeplsitters series. But since they went exclusive with a failure like the ps3 it basically killed them because no one bought there game.

1) I didn't say it would sell better on the PS3, I said it would sell well on both. Yes, it probably would sell more on the Xbox 360, but using Haze as an example isn't especially logical. Haze wasn't a particularly good game (although it wasn't as bad as critics made out), so it wasn't ever destined to sell amazingly. That would be the equivalent of me saying that Too Human would have sold better on the PS3. 2) I respect your opinion, and lost exclusives are a shame (but there are still a great deal more coming in '09), software sales aren't horrible (otherwise there wouldn't be as many 'Platinum' games as there are), hardware sales are only doing 'poorly' in North America and the UK and I never pointed out that more people use it as a Blu-Ray player than as a game machine. Fact is, I have an Xbox 360 and a PS3 and so I wouldn't care which company bought it, just as long as I could play the game...
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#12 swamplord666
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

[QUOTE="king_bobo"] I'm sorry but I can't understand what you're trying to say. Are you saying if they went exclusive it would fail like (in your opinion) the PS3? If that's what you are saying, I'm afraid I don't agree in two ways - 1) Both consoles have a large user base, so it should sell well on either console (it may even help sell more of that console, and so that's why it would be possible that either Microsoft or Sony would choose to buy it). 2) PS3 isn't a success in the same way as the PS2 was, but it certainly isn't a failure - PSN is a thriving community, Blu-Ray beat HD-DVD, PS3 exclusives are incredible and it continues to sell a great deal. If that's not what you're saying, could someone please explain (if they can) what they are saying...king_bobo

1.It would sell BETTER on the 360 then on the ps3. Looks at Haze's sales then come back and say it would sell well on the ps3 :|

2. Ps3 is infact a failure, Lost exclusives, horrible software sales, horrible hardware sales (points out last months NPD numbers) and as you pointed out more people use it as a Blu ray player then a actual game machine :roll:

Im saying if FR stays afloat and goes multiplat then they have a chance of being the successful developer they were last gen with the timeplsitters series. But since they went exclusive with a failure like the ps3 it basically killed them because no one bought there game.

1) I didn't say it would sell better on the PS3, I said it would sell well on both. Yes, it probably would sell more on the Xbox 360, but using Haze as an example isn't especially logical. Haze wasn't a particularly good game (although it wasn't as bad as critics made out), so it wasn't ever destined to sell amazingly. That would be the equivalent of me saying that Too Human would have sold better on the PS3. 2) I respect your opinion, and lost exclusives are a shame (but there are still a great deal more coming in '09), software sales aren't horrible (otherwise there wouldn't be as many 'Platinum' games as there are), hardware sales are only doing 'poorly' in North America and the UK and I never pointed out that more people use it as a Blu-Ray player than as a game machine. Fact is, I have an Xbox 360 and a PS3 and so I wouldn't care which company bought it, just as long as I could play the game...

wasted words on a fanboy i'm afraid...

On topic, Even though being bought out by a large company would help them back into the industry, I don't think it would happen because of how bad haze was. Microsoft and Sony would only see their last title which arguably wasn't their best. Also I think if they were bought out, their movements would be restrained by either sony or microsoft.

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#13 PAL360
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I would probably buy a system with Battlefront3 as exclusive!
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#14 The_Game_Critic
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It would be too harsh to judge Free Radical by going on how well Haze sold or it's critical reception. The fact of the matter is, Battlefront and Timesplitters have a lot of die-hard fans..and would undoubtedly sell.
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[QUOTE="king_bobo"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]If they decide to go multiplat instead of console exclusive with a failure like the ps3.Gh0st_Of_0nyx

I'm sorry but I can't understand what you're trying to say. Are you saying if they went exclusive it would fail like (in your opinion) the PS3? If that's what you are saying, I'm afraid I don't agree in two ways - 1) Both consoles have a large user base, so it should sell well on either console (it may even help sell more of that console, and so that's why it would be possible that either Microsoft or Sony would choose to buy it). 2) PS3 isn't a success in the same way as the PS2 was, but it certainly isn't a failure - PSN is a thriving community, Blu-Ray beat HD-DVD, PS3 exclusives are incredible and it continues to sell a great deal. If that's not what you're saying, could someone please explain (if they can) what they are saying...

1.It would sell BETTER on the 360 then on the ps3. Looks at Haze's sales then come back and say it would sell well on the ps3 :|

2. Ps3 is infact a failure, Lost exclusives, horrible software sales, horrible hardware sales (points out last months NPD numbers) and as you pointed out more people use it as a Blu ray player then a actual game machine :roll:

Im saying if FR stays afloat and goes multiplat then they have a chance of being the successful developer they were last gen with the timeplsitters series. But since they went exclusive with a failure like the ps3 it basically killed them because no one bought there game.

I cant wait until the end of this Gen, when sony overtakes M$

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#16 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

[QUOTE="king_bobo"] I'm sorry but I can't understand what you're trying to say. Are you saying if they went exclusive it would fail like (in your opinion) the PS3? If that's what you are saying, I'm afraid I don't agree in two ways - 1) Both consoles have a large user base, so it should sell well on either console (it may even help sell more of that console, and so that's why it would be possible that either Microsoft or Sony would choose to buy it). 2) PS3 isn't a success in the same way as the PS2 was, but it certainly isn't a failure - PSN is a thriving community, Blu-Ray beat HD-DVD, PS3 exclusives are incredible and it continues to sell a great deal. If that's not what you're saying, could someone please explain (if they can) what they are saying...samam005

1.It would sell BETTER on the 360 then on the ps3. Looks at Haze's sales then come back and say it would sell well on the ps3 :|

2. Ps3 is infact a failure, Lost exclusives, horrible software sales, horrible hardware sales (points out last months NPD numbers) and as you pointed out more people use it as a Blu ray player then a actual game machine :roll:

Im saying if FR stays afloat and goes multiplat then they have a chance of being the successful developer they were last gen with the timeplsitters series. But since they went exclusive with a failure like the ps3 it basically killed them because no one bought there game.

I cant wait until the end of this Gen, when sony overtakes M$

You keep telling yourself that.
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#17 nintendoboy16
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Actually, I don't think a First Party should buy them. To tell you the truth, back when Free Radical was with Rareware, they were exclusive to Nintendo when they developed Goldeneye and Perfect Dark. When Free Radical became... well Free Radical, they were Sony exclusive at first, but with TimeSplitters 2, they became supportive off all the platforms. So in my opinion, I think High Voltage (developers of Conduit for the Wii) should merge with them to stay multiplat like they were with TimeSplitters 2.
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#18 druggyjoe3000
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They must stay multiplatform and if they have to be bought by a first party it should be ms cause atleast they will put it on 360 and games for windows
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#19 Dibdibdobdobo
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Sony and MS are laying off of developers left, right and centre. Why would either company buy FR? Only reason i can see is to sack them as they've got no one else left. The only company who can buy them is Nintendo which i'd prefer out of the 3 as I'd love to play Timesplitters with IR pointer.
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#20 THQ88
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A Haze-killer!
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#21 drj077
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Unless Free Radical owns Rebellion Developments, Star Wars Battlefront 3 isn't even theirs anymore, which means there would be no point in either Microsoft or Sony buying the company. TimeSplitters probably had the same fate and is no longer Free Radical's either.
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I highly guarantee MS will buy then for a certain reason cough* rare cough*
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Unless Free Radical owns Rebellion Developments, Star Wars Battlefront 3 isn't even theirs anymore, which means there would be no point in either Microsoft or Sony buying the company. TimeSplitters probably had the same fate and is no longer Free Radical's either. drj077
Things like that could change tho, if microsoft or sony owned them they probably could convince them other wise
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I highly guarantee MS will buy then for a certain reason cough* rare cough*SAGE_OF_FIRE
You go from assuming to knowing in one sentence.
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[QUOTE="drj077"]Unless Free Radical owns Rebellion Developments, Star Wars Battlefront 3 isn't even theirs anymore, which means there would be no point in either Microsoft or Sony buying the company. TimeSplitters probably had the same fate and is no longer Free Radical's either. SAGE_OF_FIRE
Things like that could change tho, if microsoft or sony owned them they probably could convince them other wise

Rebellion Developments is one of the largest if not THE largest independent developer in Europe. Good luck trying to buy them. If Microsoft or Sony bought Free Radical, they'd be left with a gutted developer with no current games in development, because BattleFront sure isn't there anymore.

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I'm sure Microsoft or Sony could afford to buy Rebellion. Fact is they probably won't because the economic climate at the moment wouldn't really make it a feasible choice. - Hopefully they go crazy and just bail FR out anyway. :D
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if MS or Soney doesnt buy them, I hope a more smaller and trusted dev buys them (not activision and EA)
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ASony should buy them up, and get them working on TS4...
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guy in your sig has some nasty teeth :P
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#30 organic_machine
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Hid description of what Haze was originally planned to be actually sounded awesome...
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#31 habkeinbock
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all people crying they want TS4 but if its out nobody want it

there was a poll but the wii won ! why ? the trues is you guys dont care for TS4 !

if they make a TS4 the best choice is the wii ! and if you guys really want support free radical, go too the store buy haze or stop complaining

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#32 Krigon
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I guess they are trying to sell their company and i don't think MS or Sony would be interested in buying them. Sony already has enough dev teams that can make good Shooters and MS have been selling their dev teams lately. Maybe Ubisoft might buy them.
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#34 InsaneBasura
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Star Wars dudes own Star Wars. Timesplitters is their own IP. Considering the state of Free Radical it seems to me they were having trouble getting TS4 signed. Yeah, Dudenaughty says as much. So why would anyone buy the entire damn studio for it? Seems like positive reactions to the Battlefront III footage and TS4 tech might ensure Free Radical's future survival though.