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#1 -Damien-
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http://www.edge-online.com/features/dark-souls-producer-says-pc-version-was-rushed-problems-were-expected/

What is he implying? That Nintendo is kiddie?!? How dare him!!!

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#2 StrongDeadlift
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But Nintendo is for everybody.

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#3  Edited By LegatoSkyheart
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The heck?

Why?

Freakin' Miiverse is essentially their Orange Stone Mechanic from Dark Souls, and they're saying it's not for the Nintendo Audience?

Is this because of ZombiU's sales?

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#4 ghostwarrior786
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well he is right. kids get scared of blood also its a very violent game, u dont want to be showing 5 year olds that level of violence

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#5  Edited By -Damien-
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@ghostwarrior786 said:

well he is right. kids get scared of blood also its a very violent game, u dont want to be showing 5 year olds that level of violence

LOL

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#6  Edited By PurpleMan5000
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I don't really think the game would sell well at all on the Wii U.

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Of course,even the developers know,only in some forums like this you´ll see some people trying so hard to make it look like the target audience of nintendo isn´t children and very young teens,with a touch of senior citizens with the Wii.

That was,is and always will be the target audience nintendo chases after.

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Screw you guys.

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@MrYaotubo said:

Of course,even the developers know,only in some forums like this you´ll see some people trying so hard to make it look like the target audience of nintendo isn´t children and very young teens,with a touch of senior citizens with the Wii.

That was,is and always will be the target audience nintendo chases after.

Kids and hardcore gamers buy Nintendo products.

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#11 Heil68
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We he's right.

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@ghostwarrior786 said:

well he is right. kids get scared of blood also its a very violent game, u dont want to be showing 5 year olds that level of violence

if this was true Nintendo wouldn't be publishing and funding bayonetta II

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I think he's implying Nintendo actually has good design.

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@uninspiredcup said:

I think he's implying Nintendo actually has good design.

Nintendo has superb design. I'm not really into their games but that's pretty much an undisputed fact.

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#15  Edited By uninspiredcup  Online
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Demon Souls had shit design. It runs terrible and it looked terrible. The fact it barely ran on a Playstation 3 means they can't optimize worth shit. The Nintendo audience are use to better.

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#16 cainetao11
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Nintendo publishing Bayonetta 2 is their attempt to show they do have a mature core side

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#17 TwistedShade
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He isn't wrong. I couldn't see the game selling well at all on the Wii U, people just whine at not having it on the Wii U for the sake of it then they go and buy it for another platform anyway.

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#18 Jipset
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If games even like CoD don't sell well on Wii U, there's no way that games like Dark Souls will either. There may be 'hardcore' gamers that own the Wii U, but they sure as hell aren't buying the mature games for it.

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@TwistedShade said:

He isn't wrong. I couldn't see the game selling well at all on the Wii U, people just whine at not having it on the Wii U for the sake of it then they go and buy it for another platform anyway.

If I were actually interested in the game, and there were a Wii U version, I would be interested in having the inventory on my controller, given that you can't pause the game.

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#20  Edited By Basinboy
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By the time the title reaches the target demographic on Wii U, it has had to get by all other systems - PC, Xbox, Playstation - because the audience who would get Dark Souls 2 for a Nintendo system have likely already purchased it elsewhere (hence why Nintendo needs to get it together and build a far better ecosystem, because they're getting slaughtered). That's the case for me; the group that owns Nintendo-only consoles and would buy Dark Souls 2 is not sizable enough to warrant the additional cost.

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@cainetao11 said:

Nintendo publishing Bayonetta 2 is their attempt to show they do have a mature core side

Also add: Perfect Dark (when they had Rare), and Eternal Darkness (when they had Silicon Knights), and Geist.

Sad part is, only one of those games actually sold well.

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#22 silversix_
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Nintendo's audience is used to play as a red plumber that jumps on mushrooms, not backstabbing and absorbing creature souls in the underworld.

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#23  Edited By foxhound_fox
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Considering the average gamer is 30 years old, and have been gaming for 13 years, I doubt they aren't in some way associated with a Nintendo platform and would be considered part of the Nintendo audience. They are really perpetrating the stereotype that Nintendo is "kiddie only" and we, who have functioning brains, know this isn't at all true. They make games for all audiences to enjoy and are publishing a sexually-suggestive, hyper-violent M-rated game.

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#24 clone01
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Sure. Whatever.

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Nintendo are aimed for kids or more accurately, for your childhood days...And casuals of course but that was a one hit wonder when they did.
lol. Bayonetta... that J-pop cheesy dance fest, good for those who like anime what not.
The next Zelda will try to be more like Dark Souls no doubt.

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#26  Edited By NathanDrakeSwag
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Dark Souls is not made for the toddler Nintendo fanbase that still watches barney and rides in a booster seat.

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#27 foxhound_fox
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Dark Souls is not made for the toddler Nintendo fanbase that still watches barney and rides in a booster seat.

You should embrace your childhood, not be afraid of it. Innocent joy is the best fun one can have when playing a game.

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#28 ActicEdge
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Its not going to sell well when there are 3 other systems with established userbases and online for players to choose from. Even if I had a WiiU I wouldn't get that version over the PS3 because that's a version that definitely won't get gimped.

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@g0ddyX said:

Nintendo are aimed for kids or more accurately, for your childhood days...And casuals of course but that was a one hit wonder when they did.

lol. Bayonetta... that J-pop cheesy dance fest, good for those who like anime what not.

The next Zelda will try to be more like Dark Souls no doubt.

Why would Nintendo want the next Zelda to be the worst in the series?

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@g0ddyX said:

Nintendo are aimed for kids or more accurately, for your childhood days...And casuals of course but that was a one hit wonder when they did.

lol. Bayonetta... that J-pop cheesy dance fest, good for those who like anime what not.

The next Zelda will try to be more like Dark Souls no doubt.

Nintendo wants Zelda to actually be popular. That's why its not going to resemble dark souls and thank God for that.

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#31  Edited By GhoX
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I don't think the game would do well on Wii U in any event.

3DS is a different story, but obviously that can't work. There are enough successful challenging games on 3DS to make me believe that a game with Dark Souls' difficulty and depth can thrive there, ignoring the technical limitations.

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Dark Souls is not made for the toddler Nintendo fanbase that still watches barney and rides in a booster seat.

Pretty much this.

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#33  Edited By Kingpin0114
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The game would have sold worse than Wonderful 101. I already feel bad for Bayonetta 2 sales.

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#34  Edited By DarkLink77
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That is a remarkably stupid thing to say.

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#35  Edited By redskins26rocs
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@uninspiredcup said:

Demon Souls had shit design. It runs terrible and it looked terrible. The fact it barely ran on a Playstation 3 means they can't optimize worth shit. The Nintendo audience are use to better.

Good joke considering the design is fantastic and I have been playing it on PS3 recently and have had very few frame drops (no more than any other console game)

It would be pointless on Wii U IMO just because it would not sell units. Has the Wii U even been selling to children though if it was wouldnt it have much more sales, especially Mario.

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#36  Edited By Randolph
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@MrYaotubo said:

Of course,even the developers know,only in some forums like this you´ll see some people trying so hard to make it look like the target audience of nintendo isn´t children and very young teens,with a touch of senior citizens with the Wii.

That was,is and always will be the target audience nintendo chases after.

The kids are playing COD. Nintendo's target audience is people like me. Adults in their 30's or even 40's who grew up on Nintendo.

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#37  Edited By KBFloYd
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in other words....nintendo didnt send their bribe for it..they dont care about our game...so F them.

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#38  Edited By g0ddyX
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@ActicEdge said:

@g0ddyX said:

Nintendo are aimed for kids or more accurately, for your childhood days...And casuals of course but that was a one hit wonder when they did.

lol. Bayonetta... that J-pop cheesy dance fest, good for those who like anime what not.

The next Zelda will try to be more like Dark Souls no doubt.

Nintendo wants Zelda to actually be popular. That's why its not going to resemble dark souls and thank God for that.

Too bad Nintendo are trying to be like Skyrim and Dark Souls but the kid friendly version.

They've already said the 'Next Zelda will be influenced by Skyrim'. So Nintendo can acknowledge a good game other than their own.

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#39 lamprey263
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Wii U owners would certainly buy it, just not for the Wii U, surely many have Xboxs and PlayStations.

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#40  Edited By Couth_
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Lol butt hurt wii fans in denial their console is made for 5 year olds, and even 5 year olds prefer the xbox

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#41  Edited By ActicEdge
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@g0ddyX said:
@ActicEdge said:

@g0ddyX said:

Nintendo are aimed for kids or more accurately, for your childhood days...And casuals of course but that was a one hit wonder when they did.

lol. Bayonetta... that J-pop cheesy dance fest, good for those who like anime what not.

The next Zelda will try to be more like Dark Souls no doubt.

Nintendo wants Zelda to actually be popular. That's why its not going to resemble dark souls and thank God for that.

Too bad Nintendo are trying to be like Skyrim and Dark Souls but the kid friendly version.

They've already said the 'Next Zelda will be influenced by Skyrim'. So Nintendo can acknowledge a good game other than their own.

Lol, I've heard the director of Zelda say he likes Skyrim but there has been no insinuation that the next Zelda is gonna be like it other than your imagination. And like Dark Souls? lol, if they wanna sell 10 copies maybe. (hint, they want to sell more than 10 copies)

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#42  Edited By Obviously_Right
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Judging by the sales figures its not suitable for the Xbox or PC audience either. Should prob just make the series exclusive again.

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#44 cain006
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I would imagine most people who want to play Dark Souls 2 own multiple consoles so it most likely doesn't matter much.

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@foxhound_fox said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Dark Souls is not made for the toddler Nintendo fanbase that still watches barney and rides in a booster seat.

You should embrace your childhood, not be afraid of it. Innocent joy is the best fun one can have when playing a game.

Well said. That is how I personally rate a game I play. Did I enjoy it? I don't need to break it down to level design or graphics, pretend I can write better, or other things. Did I enjoy the game? Will I play it again?

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#46 Jankarcop
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lol darksouls2 on consoles lol