Gabe Newell ego goes rampant, fires everyone incites hatred against youth

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#1  Edited By uninspiredcup  Online
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-02-27-valve-fires-dota2-commentator-gabe-newell-calls-him-an-ass

"Valve head honcho Gabe Newell did not mince words about his disdain for the host in question, James "2GD" Harding, who Newell publicly called "an ass" in a Reddit thread.

Newell took to Reddit to address the backlash over the tournament's streams. Fans have been complaining about feeds dropping, dead air, poor audio quality, and lackluster, arguably offensive commentary.

The studio head offered the following explanation on Reddit, wherein he blamed Harding's hosting skills and the production company Valve hired to stream the $3m tournament.

Two things:

1) James. We've had issues with James at previous events. Some Valve people lobbied to bring him back for Shanghai, feeling that he deserved another chance. That was a mistake. James is an ass, and we won't be working with him again.

2) As long as we're firing people, we are also firing the production company that we've been working with on the Shanghai Major. They will be replaced, and we hope to get this turned around before the main event.

So what did Harding do that drew Newell's ire so strongly? It's hard to pinpoint, but the most common speculation is that his opening gambit wherein he discusses "the cans and c***s of the team" followed by an awkwardly told anecdote about masturbating to censored wheelchair porn the night before didn't quite fit the tone of the program. (Skip to 55:10 in this stream to watch the awkwardness unfurl). Other speculation suggests that he was canned because he had a tendency to look into the wrong camera. Most likely it was a combination of factors.

We've requested a more specific explanation from Valved and will update should we hear back."

Uncle Ben humbly tries to convey a simple but powerful message to Peter Parker. Peter, realizing by being proxy of Spiderman, pushes his loved ones away, as he knows his enemies will deliberately target them, this means sacrificing the thing he wants the most.

Gabe Newell, aware of his messiah status among the vitriolic, appears to be using that responseability poorly, acting like a 14 year old, encouraging 14 year olds.

Not saying he's doing it deliberately like Totalbiscuit did when he flamed feminist hatred, but a man in his position probably shouldn't be so candid when directly an influence on unstable people (swatters, hackers, harassers)...

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#2  Edited By AcidTango
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I like how Gabe called this James guy an ass.

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#3 commander
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Didn't know newell was still living in the fifties.

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#4 Vaasman
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Sometimes it really bothers me that you are still allowed to make threads.

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@Vaasman said:

Sometimes it really bothers me that you are still allowed to make threads.

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#6 AnthonyAutumns
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@Vaasman said:

Sometimes it really bothers me that you are still allowed to make threads.

Click bait.

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#7 93BlackHawk93
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Wheelchair porn? What's that?

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Holy sensationalism Batman....

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#9 whiskeystrike
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Production staff had it deserved. China can't host a good event for whatever reason. Don't really care about 2GD. Dota 2 pro scene in general is petty and vindictive. We get this kind of drama and other hosts like slacks while Street Fighter community gets people like Mike Ross and Gootecks.

Thus consoles > PC

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#10 Howmakewood
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2GD is one of the most iconic persons when it comes to esports and there aren't many people out there who can say they've done more for esports than what he has.

That being said he is what he is, if you want a super professional cast you don't get him, because that's not what he does best, he's an entertainer.

The production staff had it coming, there's no question about that.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B061Rs4gw4zkCec35Q5v2r576e_Jd6pJfrT_5_GZ74I/preview

Is the James view of things.

And is someone actually surprised a tournament in China goes south? It's easier to list successive tournaments held there than those that had issues.

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#11  Edited By Liquid_
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@whiskeystrike said:

Dota 2 pro scene in general is petty and vindictive.

Thus consoles > PC

Don't know if you noticed this or perhaps you are just being biased, but every game's pro scene is petty and vindictive, especially and even worse on consoles.

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#12 Howmakewood
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@Liquid_ said:
@whiskeystrike said:

Dota 2 pro scene in general is petty and vindictive.

Thus consoles > PC

Don't know if you noticed this or perhaps you are just being biased, but every game's pro scene is petty and vindictive, especially and even worse on consoles.

well in his defense, most people don't know such scenes exist on consoles, that's how big they are

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#13  Edited By naz99
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*insert "stop posting" cat gif here*

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#15  Edited By remiks00
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@Vaasman said:

Sometimes it really bothers me that you are still allowed to make threads.

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#16 KungfuKitten
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Turns out Gabe Newell may be a human.
You have been warned.

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#17  Edited By AnthonyAutumns
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@KungfuKitten: No, he was just punishing a heathen/heretic.

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#18  Edited By KungfuKitten
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@anthonyautumns said:

@KungfuKitten: No, he was just punishing a heathen/heretic.

You are right. This must have been part of the plan.

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#19 AnthonyAutumns
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@Vaasman: Reminds me of a poster who had a megaman avatar. Who was it again?

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No wonder steams customer support sucks

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#21 NyaDC
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@mems_1224 said:

No wonder steams customer support sucks

You've probably never even used it...

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@anthonyautumns said:

@Vaasman: Reminds me of a poster who had a megaman avatar. Who was it again?

Gue1

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@whiskeystrike said:

Production staff had it deserved. China can't host a good event for whatever reason. Don't really care about 2GD. Dota 2 pro scene in general is petty and vindictive. We get this kind of drama and other hosts like slacks while Street Fighter community gets people like Mike Ross and Gootecks.

Thus consoles > PC

Here's a stream

http://www.twitch.tv/teamsp00ky

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#24 clone01
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Why the **** is TC still making threads?

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#25  Edited By Frank_Castle
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@93BlackHawk93 said:

Wheelchair porn? What's that?

The hottest shit ever

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#26  Edited By madsnakehhh
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Apparently, he had it comming since the last International and he have been warned about those comments in past streams, if you can't follow a simple instruction from your bosses, then you deserve to be fired, don't matter if you are an important part of the scene, you are there to make a job and if you can't, then you go away, as simple as that.

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#27  Edited By wis3boi
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@Vaasman said:

Sometimes it really bothers me that you are still allowed to make threads.

uninspiredcup threads are like the stories you see in magazines at the grocery checkout line

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#28  Edited By Skelly34
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@wis3boi said:
@Vaasman said:

Sometimes it really bothers me that you are still allowed to make threads.

uninspiredcup threads are like the stories you see in magazines at the grocery checkout line

And those stories remain the subliminal reason I go to the grocery store.

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#29 AM-Gamer
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What a unprofessional dick.

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#30  Edited By silversix_
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Gabe is great, a real boss.

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#31 jun_aka_pekto
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Oh well. The man-kid wanted to act like a kid. I'd fire him too.

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#32  Edited By sailor232
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A professional not doing a professional job, no kidding he was fired.

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#33 FireEmblem_Man
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The commenter maybe an ass, but Gabe Newell is an even bigger ass for taking the situation publicly on Reddit and for hiring him in the first place. They seriously have poor business and PR skills.

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@sailor232: Neither does Gabe has any professional skills.

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#35 Ten_Pints
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What I find funny is that you can watch videos of what he does online, why would you even hire him if you don't like his work.

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#36  Edited By uninspiredcup  Online
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@ten_pints: Exactly. controversy is clearly part of the package. All of a sudden when he starts acting, like he's always been acting,

"whaaaaa!!!!!!"

Just Valve being hugely incompetent again. And when they notice it, where others wouldn't have made the mistake in the first place.

*clap clap clap* Well done Gabe, such chivalry!

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@phantomfire335 said:
@Vaasman said:

Sometimes it really bothers me that you are still allowed to make threads.

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@n64dd said:
@phantomfire335 said:
@Vaasman said:

Sometimes it really bothers me that you are still allowed to make threads.