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#1 HAZE-Unit
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Video game website, Ripten, has published an article about why gamers must stop hyping the upcoming Playstation 3 exclusive, Killzone 2. Killzone 2 fans were not pleased by the opinion of the author and have posted numerous angry remarks in the comment section of the site. John Landis, a game journalist of Ripten, retaliates with a profanity ridden reply. Hit the link to read his reply.

"I want to be a troll also.

PS3 is gAy People who play a PS3 are l00zewrz!! LOLZ! ROFLOLCPTRHAHAHA!!

Seriously though, I find it amazing the amount of stupidity that comes from the Sony community when someone says something only looks "OKAY" as apposed to the super **** awesome that it's supposed to be. You know what? I think Killzone 2 looks like **** ASS!!!! There, I said it. It looks like another **** first person shooter that will try and take the supposed crown from Halo but fail miserable, which just goes to show how much it will suck because Halo isn't really that good of a game to start with. What's sad is the tenacity that you people have to defend it.

There have been articles on this website about xbox games being over hyped or in some way flawed but there is never as many xbox gamers coming out of the woodwork to defend their system's games as there are PS3 gamers. You know why I think that is? It's because people playing the xbox actually have games to play instead of constantly looking for the great savior to be developed. Guess what? Killzone 2 could be the most bad ass super awesome killer app ever made but guess what... it's not going to mean jack **** because no one is willing to go out and blow a thousand dollars on a **** gaming system just to play one **** game. Resistance 2 was supposed to be **** awesome also, and I'm sorry, but in my personal opinion, it was not fun. The only fun I've had on the PS3 was Little Big Planet. THAT game was awesome, but most of the fun from that came from playing with friends. It was a cute little relaxing platformer and a nice change of pace from blowing **** up or ripping people's heads off all the time.

I just don't see how you can justify getting so bent out of shape about a **** shooter. They're a dime a dozen. To me all these comments trying to bust Dan's balls simply show to me that PS3 fans are bored ass fourteen year olds who want to be gangstaz when they grow up, at least a majority of them. Most of the PS3 gamers I know personally are older family types that got the system for one of two reasons, if not both: BlueRay and they already had a PS2 so they just wanted to upgrade.

By the way, METAL GEAR 4 SUCKS!!!

Yes, bring the flames on, mother *****..."

I saw the article the other day and I didn't read it because Im not interested alot like the other folks about KZ2 and I didn't care about the message the author was trying to spread, but that comment got my attention because he is serious about it lol, I mean really, making an article to say for people don't hype a specific game, who cares, let them hype the game to no end, who cares, if it flops it's nobody's fault except the developers but making such comments in the same article like this and other comments, I don't know, they should have been more pro about it.

What do you think about this ? is game journalism becoming low or what?

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He is either going to. 1-Get mad rep from his peeps! 2-Get fired from his job 3-No one ever really read him so he decided to be "Extreme" to get some people to read. 4-He is going to continue writing silly things.
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#3 RotaryRX7
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Talk about loss of professionalism in journalism. He lost all credibility and is no better than those insane KZ2 fanboys that create 20 threads per day about it.
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#4 Delsage
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What's Ripten? Has this guy even played Killzone 2? Cause it sounds like he didn't even make it into the beta, maybe that's why he's so pissed.
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#5 Vandalvideo
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Using a lot of expletives in your articles aren't exactly a good way to place yourself above the riff raf.
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#6 3picuri3
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awesome, it's about time journalists actually do their job instead of parroting sony press releases. kudos.
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#7 Whiteknight19
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or he might be jealous cos the visuals is out of this generation on a console and nothing that graphically has come close to that on the 360
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#8 Delsage
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awesome, it's about time journalists actually do their job instead of parroting sony press releases. kudos.3picuri3
The guy also bashed on Halo you know. In this same article, apparently you didn't read it.
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#9 Baranga
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Talk about loss of professionalism in journalism. He lost all credibility and is no better than those insane KZ2 fanboys that create 20 threads per day about it.RotaryRX7

What's with the idea that gaming journalists must be cold, impartial machines? This is against their purpose.

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#10 corn_dogs
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Seems something that my 13 year old cousin would write, and he doesn't even play video games.
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I like this guy.
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#12 desyple
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it didnt say that in the article did he comment that.
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#13 heretrix
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John Landis is writing video game columns now? Damn, No Trading Places sequel?
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#14 Baranga
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In the article he praised KZ2. Also:

And for the record, I think Halo 3 and Gears of War 2 were overhyped as well.

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#15 sam280992
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awesome, it's about time journalists actually do their job instead of parroting sony press releases. kudos.3picuri3
You got to be joking...
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#16 Mongo-Boss
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This looks like it was written by a System Wars poster :lol:
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Using a lot of expletives in your articles aren't exactly a good way to place yourself above the riff raf.Vandalvideo
Yeah thats what I thought too, I mean above all of this he is also judging the game before coming out, and if you look for his bro or whatever he relate to in the comments section, he says he don't even own a PS3 and he judged the game and even compared it with other games lol.
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[QUOTE="RotaryRX7"]Talk about loss of professionalism in journalism. He lost all credibility and is no better than those insane KZ2 fanboys that create 20 threads per day about it.Baranga

What's with the idea that gaming journalists must be cold, impartial machines? This is against their purpose.

Umm, journalists can do their job just as well without 50 swear words in the article....It's called being a professional. He could have made a perfectly respectful article that told how he felt about KZ2 and its hype without sounding like a 6 year old that got his candy taken away.
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#19 heretrix
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In the article he praised KZ2. Also:

And for the record, I think Halo 3 and Gears of War 2 were overhyped as well.

Baranga
Clearly this will be ignored and he will just be called an Xbox fanboy instead of someone who is tired of shooters and may have directed Animal House.
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#20 ironcreed
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You know what I find amusing? This notion that only PS3 owners get overhyped for big budget exclusives that look like they are going to be great. As if nobody has ever done this for a 360 game, a game on the Wii or PC. Yet, when a PS3 owner gets overhyped for what looks to be a quality exclusive, this hypocritical condemnation arises within the gaming community that paints the PS3 as the only system which has fanboys who overeact for highly anticipated exclusives. The hypocrisy really is quite hilarious and all too obvious, rendering his argument null and void.
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What's Ripten? Has this guy even played Killzone 2? Cause it sounds like he didn't even make it into the beta, maybe that's why he's so pissed. Delsage
i would be pretty pissed too if you read those comments there's a load of rabid foaming at the mouth ps3 fanboys who call him a f-ing crap journalist. That is just pathetic, for the record the article is exactly spot on the hype some of these games is ridiciulous and that goes for gears it goes for halo, it goes for GTAIV and it most certainly goes for killzone 2. He was not questioning the quality of the game only the hype surrounding it.
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#22 Delsage
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[QUOTE="Baranga"]

In the article he praised KZ2. Also:

And for the record, I think Halo 3 and Gears of War 2 were overhyped as well.

heretrix
Clearly this will be ignored and he will just be called an Xbox fanboy instead of someone who is tired of shooters and may have directed Animal House.

The guy doesn't even own a PS3, and has never played Killzone 2. What assumption does that give you?
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That was really immature, swearing and ranting like an annoyed fanboy will not get your point across. Why do gaming journalist sound as immature and uninformed as people at my school who argue gaming related matters they have no clue about?
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What's Ripten? Has this guy even played Killzone 2? Cause it sounds like he didn't even make it into the beta, maybe that's why he's so pissed. Delsage
The guy is a complete idiot, and another moron draging the little respect gaming journalism has.. But sony fans half deserve this, i have never seen such hype for the next big sony exclusive game; first was LBP, then R2, now its KZ2. Billions of threads about the same ***** game. KZ2 gifs everywhere, Jesus...calm down people.
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[QUOTE="Delsage"]What's Ripten? Has this guy even played Killzone 2? Cause it sounds like he didn't even make it into the beta, maybe that's why he's so pissed. mattacular
i would be pretty pissed too if you read those comments there's a load of rabid foaming at the mouth ps3 fanboys who call him a f-ing crap journalist. That is just pathetic, for the record the article is exactly spot on the hype some of these games is ridiciulous and that goes for gears it goes for halo, it goes for GTAIV and it most certainly goes for killzone 2. He was not questioning the quality of the game only the hype surrounding it.

Well sure there are lots of games that are over hyped now, but that doesn't mean you bash a game before you even play the darn thing. What kinda professionalism is that?

I don't agree with amount of bash that he received, but he should of known what he was getting in for when he wrote that article, about a game he never even played.

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#26 WasntAvailable
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"Seriously though." I might have to stop using that now. Oh well, I was getting tired of it anyway.

On a more serious note, that is not an appropriate reply to anything. If you want to support an argument, you don't drop down to someones level. You keep a solid stance, and you hold that stance no matter what. Unless you turn around and decide you were wrong in the first place.

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[QUOTE="Delsage"]What's Ripten? Has this guy even played Killzone 2? Cause it sounds like he didn't even make it into the beta, maybe that's why he's so pissed. mattacular
i would be pretty pissed too if you read those comments there's a load of rabid foaming at the mouth ps3 fanboys who call him a f-ing crap journalist. That is just pathetic, for the record the article is exactly spot on the hype some of these games is ridiciulous and that goes for gears it goes for halo, it goes for GTAIV and it most certainly goes for killzone 2. He was not questioning the quality of the game only the hype surrounding it.

I'm pretty sure he was doing more then just questioning the hype, otherwise he wouldn't have had so many angry comments, I didn't read the article but I'm pretty sure he said some nasty things about the game, if he's played it I'm fine with it, but if he hasn't he should just shut up.
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#28 sonicmj1
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I don't think he has anything against people anticipating a game. He's probably more annoyed by fanboys thinking that Ripten has it in for Sony or something just because they aren't crazy about Killzone. There's a difference.

Still, this article probably isn't the best way to express that.

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[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="Baranga"]

In the article he praised KZ2. Also:

And for the record, I think Halo 3 and Gears of War 2 were overhyped as well.

Delsage

Clearly this will be ignored and he will just be called an Xbox fanboy instead of someone who is tired of shooters and may have directed Animal House.

The guy doesn't even own a PS3, and has never played Killzone 2. What assumption does that give you?

Where does it say he doesn't have a PS3? And I'm not going to make any assumptions.

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I can understand the sentiment, but when you are writing for what is supposed to be a professional site, that is just below tripe. He should be censured or let go.
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lol KZ2 looks like ass? He could have said plays like ass but "looks" like ass? Even the die hard 360 fanboys know that's BS. Haze looks like ass, not KZ2.
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#32 gamewhat
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I know a few other sites like ripten, I'd like to say the websites name, but unfortunately if I tell the truth I will be banned from here for all time under false charges of mutiny.
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[QUOTE="Baranga"]

In the article he praised KZ2. Also:

And for the record, I think Halo 3 and Gears of War 2 were overhyped as well.

Of course they were over-hyped, as is any big game that is going to be released in short time. I think Gears 1 was way more hyped though. But I think the guy is right. Everytime gamers hype a game to the point where it is impossible to achieve what the game can do, they are disappointed. Gamers always set their expectations way too high, and I stopped doing that after Halo 3. Halo 3 was overhyped, yes, but whose fault was that? It certainly wasn't the game, but rather, it was mine, and all the other gamers who made it out to be the best thing since Jesus. When your expectations aren't ridiculously high, the game is much more enjoyable when it finally releases. The journalist is right. By not hyping Killzone 2 a ton and not ranting about how awesome its gonna be, but rather, keeping myself occupied with the present, not the future, I will most likely have great time with it.
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I know a few other sites like ripten, I'd like to say the websites name, but unfortunately if I tell the truth I will be banned from here for all time under false charges of mutiny. gamewhat
Wait to give away. LOL nice one
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That was really immature, swearing and ranting like an annoyed fanboy will not get your point across. Why do gaming journalist sound as immature and uninformed as people at my school who argue gaming related matters they have no clue about?ActicEdge

Exactly. Replying in the manner he chose to only serves to illustrate that he is no better than all of the individuals who were posting insults. Which, in my opinion, shows him to be just as much of a 'fanboy' as the rest of them. What's worse though, is that more than likely the majority of those posters who were insulting him were a bunch of juveniles, yet he is so insecure that he feels compelled to defend himself from a bunch angry kids on the internet with a profanity laced diatribe, lol? If he had a professional bone in his body, he would have simply laughed it off and said to himself, "Ahh, just fanboys being fanboys", and moved on.

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[QUOTE="mattacular"][QUOTE="Delsage"]What's Ripten? Has this guy even played Killzone 2? Cause it sounds like he didn't even make it into the beta, maybe that's why he's so pissed. Eddie-Vedder
i would be pretty pissed too if you read those comments there's a load of rabid foaming at the mouth ps3 fanboys who call him a f-ing crap journalist. That is just pathetic, for the record the article is exactly spot on the hype some of these games is ridiciulous and that goes for gears it goes for halo, it goes for GTAIV and it most certainly goes for killzone 2. He was not questioning the quality of the game only the hype surrounding it.

I'm pretty sure he was doing more then just questioning the hype, otherwise he wouldn't have had so many angry comments, I didn't read the article but I'm pretty sure he said some nasty things about the game, if he's played it I'm fine with it, but if he hasn't he should just shut up.

What's the point in arguing with me if you havent even read the article. I believe he was questioning the hype not the game.
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#37 Delsage
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[QUOTE="Delsage"]What's Ripten? Has this guy even played Killzone 2? Cause it sounds like he didn't even make it into the beta, maybe that's why he's so pissed. Grinning_Demon
The guy is a complete idiot, and another moron draging the little respect gaming journalism has.. But sony fans half deserve this, i have never seen such hype for the next big sony exclusive game; first was LBP, then R2, now its KZ2. Billions of threads about the same ***** game. KZ2 gifs everywhere, Jesus...calm down people.

Well Games should not be hyped, but it is exciting to be a PS3 owner right now, after all you talk about the hype for Resistance 2 and Little Big Planet. So Resistance 2 was good and Little Big Planet was really good, so in all honesty it's not like the hype is misleading.

Besides, if a Xbox 360 exclusive got as many great previews as Killzone 2 is getting, believe you me that that game would be hyped to no end. Also rest assured Killzone 2 would not be as hyped as it is if all the previews were not as good as they are, so it's not like it's just the Sony fanboy's who are hyping this game.

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[QUOTE="Baranga"]Of course they were over-hyped, as is any big game that is going to be released in short time. I think Gears 1 was way more hyped though. But I think the guy is right. Everytime gamers hype a game to the point where it is impossible to achieve what the game can do, they are disappointed. Gamers always set their expectations way too high, and I stopped doing that after Halo 3. Halo 3 was overhyped, yes, but whose fault was that? It certainly wasn't the game, but rather, it was mine, and all the other gamers who made it out to be the best thing since Jesus. When your expectations aren't ridiculously high, the game is much more enjoyable when it finally releases. The journalist is right. By not hyping Killzone 2 a ton and not ranting about how awesome its gonna be, but rather, keeping myself occupied with the present, not the future, I will most likely have great time with it.tktomo01
[QUOTE="tktomo01"][QUOTE="Baranga"]

In the article he praised KZ2. Also:

And for the record, I think Halo 3 and Gears of War 2 were overhyped as well.

Of course they were over-hyped, as is any big game that is going to be released in short time. I think Gears 1 was way more hyped though. But I think the guy is right. Everytime gamers hype a game to the point where it is impossible to achieve what the game can do, they are disappointed. Gamers always set their expectations way too high, and I stopped doing that after Halo 3. Halo 3 was overhyped, yes, but whose fault was that? It certainly wasn't the game, but rather, it was mine, and all the other gamers who made it out to be the best thing since Jesus. When your expectations aren't ridiculously high, the game is much more enjoyable when it finally releases. The journalist is right. By not hyping Killzone 2 a ton and not ranting about how awesome its gonna be, but rather, keeping myself occupied with the present, not the future, I will most likely have great time with it.

exactly
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]That was really immature, swearing and ranting like an annoyed fanboy will not get your point across. Why do gaming journalist sound as immature and uninformed as people at my school who argue gaming related matters they have no clue about?ironcreed

Exactly. Replying in the manner he chose to only serves to illustrate that he is no better than all of the individuals who were posting insults. Which, in my opinion, shows him to be just as much of a 'fanboy' as the rest of them. What's worse though, is that more than likely the majority of those posters who were insulting him were a bunch of juveniles, yet he is so insecure that he feels compelled to defend himself from a bunch angry kids on the internet with a profanity laced diatribe, lol? If he had a professional bone in his body, he would have simply laughed it off and said to himself, "Ahh, just fanboys being fanboys", and moved on.

This is pretty much what I think. The funny thing about that stupid rant is it will do nothing more than cause him to be bashed more. The people who bash him immaturely most likey don't know jack about what they're talking about so why lash out. Ignorance only breeds more ignorance.

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#40 SSJ_Nega
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While I do agree Killzone 2 is a bit overhyped, that article was really unprofessional. There are much better ways to get your point across, instead of using far too much swear words, ripping into other games, and just generally acting like a 13 year old SW poster.
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#41 nintendo-4life
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Sadly, fanboys and journalists are becoming one, it's quite strange as well. fanboys, despite their idiotic and often illogical statements, have learned a thing or two from articles. No matter what the subject is, the fanboy's paragraph structure have a very strong journalist feel to it. Is it from their overstay at the gaming world? Or is it because of the need to seem educated, respected, or even above their age? What ever the reason may be, The journalism influence on the fanboys is clear as day. Same can be said about the journalist. The barrier between their own personality and their profession has broken down greatly these past few years. They are taking critique even harder than... well.. everyone else! This thread is simple proof of such claim. They are forgetting their own possession to sink that low. It seems like they want to do it. They want to sink that low, they enjoy it. It really is sad, especially since gaming journalism never had enough standards to take it seriously in the first place.
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#42 stiltzsy
Member since 2008 • 1486 Posts
I thinki Chris Matthews and Keith Olberman can use a man like this. This guy sounds like mainstream jouranlist in America.
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#43 HAZE-Unit
Member since 2007 • 10564 Posts
[QUOTE="Delsage"][QUOTE="heretrix"]Clearly this will be ignored and he will just be called an Xbox fanboy instead of someone who is tired of shooters and may have directed Animal House.heretrix
The guy doesn't even own a PS3, and has never played Killzone 2. What assumption does that give you?

Where does it say he doesn't have a PS3? And I'm not going to make any assumptions.

His replay for someone debating with him ( read the comments section it's hilarious, he is getting low with the fanboys ) :

"Okay, call it a killer app if you want to, I don't really care. Generally, a killer app is something that drives masses to buy the system and I don't think Killzone 2 will do that. It might increase sales a little, but it isn't going to be a killer app like Halo 3 was (even though it didn't deserve a 10, it drove MILLIONS of people to get a 360). Will it be a must-own game if you have a PS3? Sure, but it's still not the game to make you buy a PS3. If it were, I would be buying a PS3. Can't argue with that logic ;)"

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#44 Baranga
Member since 2005 • 14217 Posts

The guy doesn't even own a PS3, and has never played Killzone 2. What assumption does that give you?Delsage

Read the original article.

Umm, journalists can do their job just as well without 50 swear words in the article....It's called being a professional. He could have made a perfectly respectful article that told how he felt about KZ2 and its hype without sounding like a 6 year old that got his candy taken away.RotaryRX7

He did, and said the game's great.

More people should take the time to read the original article, not only this rant.

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#45 Generalmojo
Member since 2008 • 3670 Posts
Is that how much of a big impact mgs4 and kz2 gave to fanboys, there realy is jealous people still out there lol
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#46 Delsage
Member since 2004 • 3355 Posts

[QUOTE="Delsage"]The guy doesn't even own a PS3, and has never played Killzone 2. What assumption does that give you?Baranga

Read the original article.

Umm, journalists can do their job just as well without 50 swear words in the article....It's called being a professional. He could have made a perfectly respectful article that told how he felt about KZ2 and its hype without sounding like a 6 year old that got his candy taken away.RotaryRX7

He did, and said the game's great.

More people should take the time to read the original article, not only this rant.

The last time I went to an unknown site posted on the Gamestop forums it gave my computer Spyware, so I do not wish to go to Ripten. However you should read the post above yours if you are curious. :)

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#47 LOXO7
Member since 2008 • 5595 Posts
This is why Sony fanboys are the ****. They do their job well if im reading this correctly. Lol. Way to get to people. Good Job. lol. And this kind of remarks only create more fakeboys to pretend they are hardcore fans of sony. Bashing one fan base makes the person a fan of another. Whats wrong with hyping it up? Maybe people do that because its the part where they're right. Why does he compair it with Halo when he corrects himself by saying even halo isnt all that its hyped to be? This tells me that he is only intertwind to the Internet communites too much and now this is where he is starting to snap! "captin we've lost another one"
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#48 aznfool07
Member since 2005 • 3552 Posts
I actually agree with the article he wrote about not over hyping KZ2, but shame on him for getting angry over fanboys and taking it out on the system.
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#49 hip-hop-cola2
Member since 2007 • 2454 Posts
He is being paid money right? The world we live in, some people would sell there family for his job, and this is what he dose? You can study journalism! people can spend there life working at it...
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#50 McdonaIdsGuy
Member since 2008 • 3046 Posts
Now is a big deal because he didn't like teh Kz2,but there've been several journalist bashing xbox 360,PC and wii games and any of their fans went mad and crazy because 1 their games is getting bad previews etc..and most of what he said is true,but here only opinions bashing the PC/xbox360/wii can be taken seriously.