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#1 sakaiXx
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Firstly congratulations to devs for such a milestones.

Very nicely done, I never played the game myself but I seen few users here saying enjoys the game (when server connection is ok)

But, according to Steamspy there is a maximum of 2 million owners on Steam and the PlayStation version is bestseller of the week for some reason. Does this mean gamepass 23 million players dont play games much? Hmmm. I think Gamepass and PSNow is a great subscription service and Gamepass does offer new games quicker but why users dont play games :(

AAA treated like this imagine those poor indie guys they wants some love too.

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#2 Fedor
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Forgot Outriders existed.

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#3 deactivated-62852ef1135c6
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GP defense force, incoming.

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#4 deactivated-60bf765068a74
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If the #'s aren't there they aren't there it is what it is

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#5 deactivated-60cb3701bc83b
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Yes because all 23 million subscribers are all going to play the same game.

You can argue that extremely few PlayStation fans actually played PS4 exclusive games as God of War only sold around one tenth of the overall console sales actually bought the game.

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#6  Edited By regnaston
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@sakaixx: you are jumping to conclusions .. unless you provide the number of PlayStation users it being the #1 selling PS game this week means nothing ... You have to provide how many units were sold before you can even start making the conclusions you are

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#7  Edited By SolidGame_basic
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@wandering_halls said:

GP defense force, incoming.

My prediction: Pedro first, then Archangel, then Gym Lion, and maybe we'll see Kingtito. I also expect Antwan to make a special appearance to damage control his assertions that it was a huge success.

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#8 Djoffer123
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Just a quick note, outrider isn’t on GP pc...but solid thread I guess?

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#9 drummerdave9099
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Do you think that means they made more $ from Microsoft to put it on Gamepass than they would have from sales on Xbox?

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#10 Archangel3371
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Not sure why you’d come to the conclusion that Game Pass players don’t play games much. They’re probably just playing something else. Perhaps it’ll be something they get around to playing later on or perhaps not. If some people aren’t interested in the game then they’re simply not interested in the game. 🤷‍♂️

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#11 regnaston
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FWIW Sales data was April 1 to May 1 so it does not include sales this week

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#12 EvanTheGamer
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GamePass is pretty good tbqh

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#14 lamprey263
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I haven't played it, and don't plan to until I hear issues with people's progress being wiped out randomly get fixed.

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#15 R4gn4r0k
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@fedor said:

Forgot Outriders existed.

The entire gaming community did.

Not sure what Square Enix was thinking with Marvels Blandvengers and this game.

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#17 Zero_epyon  Online
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@joebones5000 said:

So 114M ps4, maybe 40M xb1, 2 million on steam and 3.5M players in one month for a mediocre game.

I'm not getting the association with gamepass here...

Not saying I agree with OP but I think the association is that those other players not on GP have to buy the game vs not paying for the game at full price with GP. So there should be more people playing the game they get as part of the sub.

This is only one game and I don't think it's enough to be so sure that GP doesn't attract gamers to games.

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#18  Edited By lamprey263
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@R4gn4r0k: I saw a good video explain the issue isn't the game lacked content, but the player base is frustrated that they put countless hours grinding away and their progress is just randomly glitches away and they have to begun again from scratch, and that that's enough for people to give up all together.

They likened the online player falloff to games like Anthem and Avengers but said the game is actually good, but this one thing will kill the game all the same.

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#19 deactivated-611edca0d6021
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GP is not really that good and is clearly having trouble moving Xbox consoles. Sure, they're playing the long game but they still have nothing really worth it that most games already don't have in other systems. MS is fighting a losing battle tbh. I think they can succeed in the PC space but on the console space they're bleeding money.

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#20 daredevils2k
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What’s Outriders? Either way congrats for being a free game for users on GP?

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#21 deactivated-63d2876fd4204
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Uh oh

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@sakaixx said:

Firstly congratulations to devs for such a milestones.

Very nicely done, I never played the game myself but I seen few users here saying enjoys the game (when server connection is ok)

But, according to Steamspy there is a maximum of 2 million owners on Steam and the PlayStation version is bestseller of the week for some reason. Does this mean gamepass 23 million players dont play games much? Hmmm. I think Gamepass and PSNow is a great subscription service and Gamepass does offer new games quicker but why users dont play games :(

AAA treated like this imagine those poor indie guys they wants some love too.

In order for your theory to be right, you’d have to link how many copies of Outriders sold on PS in month one. SInce you can’t, your theory remains just that….a theory.

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#23 deactivated-628e6669daebe
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The level of obsession with Game Pass and Xbox just keeps escalating.

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#25 NathanDrakeSwag
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Like I said before, lemmings don't really play or finish games. They sample them for a few minutes. They're not real gamers.

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#26  Edited By Pedro
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Damn, my fanboys can't stop talking about me.

It is also good to see GamePass is still causing butthurt. 😂🤣

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#27 dabear
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@sakaixx: Outriders on PC is still kinda broken. Tons of disconnects, the "disconnect wipes your inventory" bug is still there, and people can stare at the connect screen for minutes on end.

Most Outriders players are PS & Xbox users.

Also, outriders is not nearly as popular as other games on XBox right now.

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#28 palasta
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Why expect a generic looking, mediocre MP game to pull in a large crowd? Because Gamepass?

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#29  Edited By navyguy21  Online
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A lot of assumptions with no data that will just get repeated over and over as fact.

Outsiders on Steam has lost 93% of players according to Steamcharts so that alone makes your assumptions worthless

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#30 hrt_rulz01
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@Pedro said:

Damn, my fanboys can't stop talking about me.

It is also good to see GamePass is still causing butthurt. 😂🤣

Lmao... the butthurt over GP is out of this world. It's hilarious!

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gamepass keeping cows awake at night and bed sheets soaked in piss

HaH

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#32  Edited By deactivated-63d2876fd4204
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@dabear said:

@sakaixx: Outriders on PC is still kinda broken. Tons of disconnects, the "disconnect wipes your inventory" bug is still there, and people can stare at the connect screen for minutes on end.

Most Outriders players are PS & Xbox users.

Also, outriders is not nearly as popular as other games on XBox right now.

I tried to tell people Outriders would be forgotten within weeks. 3.5 million “unique players” when the game is part of a subscription service and on 6 platforms is nuts. I don’t know what the dev got for being a part of Game Pass, but Xbox likely overpaid.

”Outriders is 3rd on Xbox and PlayStation store sales charts!1!11” Some of y’all will never learn...

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#33 lundy86_4
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Shit's at ~8000 concurrent players on Steam. I'm not too sure this is a solid rebuke for GP...

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I enjoyed Outriders and am glad they're going to release more content soon. Hopefully some cool story DLC and not just some vacuous online mode.

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It was funny to see lemmings brag about this janky disaster of a game being on GP. The only reason this game had any buzz surrounding it at all was because of the dry spell at the start of the year. As soon as the real bangers like Returnal, Village and Mass Effect started dropping everyone forgot Outriders existed.

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#36 Kadin_Kai
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Did any of that make any logical sense?

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#37 mtron32
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@fedor said:

Forgot Outriders existed.

I had to look it up because I forgot. As far as GPU, I was playing lots of Forza, then moved to Doghnut County, Cyber Shadow, and now I'm cracking out on Dead Cells. Game Pass gets plenty of play in my house

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#38 Nonstop-Madness
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I'm actually a bit surprised that it's only 3.5m players considering how awful the servers were for the first couple weeks.

It was supposedly because of all of GamePass users but, I guess not? It does seem low considering it was a day one release.

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@Nonstop-Madness said:

I'm actually a bit surprised that it's only 3.5m players considering how awful the servers were for the first couple weeks.

It was supposedly because of all of GamePass users but, I guess not? It does seem low considering it was a day one release.

There were all kinds of people on social media bagging on the “poor Game Pass gamers” ruining the servers for the paying customers. Twitter is pretty wild sometimes

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#40 sakaiXx
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@lundy86_4: first week sales is important, Its where 70% of revenue is made for most games. Outriders was hitting 130k concurent then on steam.

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#41 Pedro
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@sakaixx said:

@lundy86_4: first week sales is important, Its where 70% of revenue is made for most games. Outriders was hitting 130k concurent then on steam.

I hope the first week isn't as important as you state because I know of a game that was third in just one day and I am concerned that it is not going to be number one for the month. 😈

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#42  Edited By hardwenzen
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Outriders is an abomination of a game. Almost on par with Godfall, like really close to it. I knew it would be pure mediocrity prior to launch.

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#43 sakaiXx
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@Pedro said:
@sakaixx said:

@lundy86_4: first week sales is important, Its where 70% of revenue is made for most games. Outriders was hitting 130k concurent then on steam.

I hope the first week isn't as important as you state because I know of a game that was third in just one day and I am concerned that it is not going to be number one for the month. 😈

For almost every game, seems very likely unfortunately.

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#44  Edited By SolidGame_basic
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I enjoyed the hell out of Returnal and then I went onto Resident Evil 8 and now Judgement on PS5 and then Ratchet and Clank..if you're a PlayStation gamer, you're living the life right now.

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#45  Edited By Pedro
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@sakaixx said:

For almost every game, seems very likely unfortunately.

That is not good news for a particular game. 😈

Edit: I see someone is already damage controlling. 😂

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#46 mojito1988
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Zero evidence of anything is the new evidence.

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@mojito1988 said:

Zero evidence of anything is the new evidence.

How is there zero evidence this dev said his game wasn't getting any traction and he regrets the deal

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#48  Edited By with_teeth26
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@djoffer123 said:

Just a quick note, outrider isn’t on GP pc...but solid thread I guess?

this is a crucial point that everyone seems to be missing, including the OP

OUTRIDERS IS NOT ON GAMEPASS ON PC

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#50  Edited By deactivated-654dc0d1e0e5b
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Do they even mention anything regarding Game Pass or are you simply assuming that it didn't do well because they only mentioned PS and PC?

It's most likely because the number of Game Pass subscribers that played the game is meaningless. The devs already got a fat check from Microsoft. The end.