gameplay matters more then graphics fact!

I do not see how any fanboy will over look the fact that the xbox360 is not fun to look at ,

if all you care about is graphics your looking in the wrong place, fact!

if i took wii and 360 laid their game library on a scale wiis games would definatelly out wiegh the 360 library regardless of how many shovelware titles are , why because gameplay is what matters most and since 2009 all 360 seams to offer is your average 4 hour shoot em up ,

with the occasional sports game in between is 1 racing game -we all know what it is , ,

and if we took away games on ps3 pc as well , then 360 woud be wieghtless ,

its the same if i put ps3 games on a scale with wii games, but to a lesser extent due to the sheer quality of first party titles both ps3 and wii offer ,

its a shame ms cant understand that logic

they seam to want graphics graphics graphics for example halo 4 all i hear 343 talk about are its graphics ! give me bots in multiplayer give me diferent charcter choices in multiplayer give me more new guns give me more of everything ,

that is one reason why wii and ps3 has 360 beat in terms of gameplay ,

The Wii has more interesting games then the 360, but the Wii has gaping holes in it's library especially in the multiplat department.

you are so intelligent

Where the hell did this come from?JohnnyCageMK

I don;t know.

Of course gameplay is more important. Crysis is proof of that, the game looks great, but the gameplay is crap. Hermits overexaggerated it big time, which is funny because they have the worst version.

Of course gameplay is more important. Crysis is proof of that, the game looks great, but the gameplay is crap. Hermits overexaggerated it big time, which is funny because they have the worst version.

ShadowMoses900

wat

Of course gameplay is more important. Crysis is proof of that, the game looks great, but the gameplay is crap. Hermits overexaggerated it big time, which is funny because they have the worst version.

ShadowMoses900

Are you joking?The best version of crysis is the PC version because of the mods and the impressive PC graphics.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Of course gameplay is more important. Crysis is proof of that, the game looks great, but the gameplay is crap. Hermits overexaggerated it big time, which is funny because they have the worst version.

whiskeystrike

wat

What part do you need informing on? The gameplay vs graphics part? Or Crysis being proof that gameplay is more important and being better on PC?

I am happy to help. Many people are misinformed on here so I will lend a hand if you need it. We are all misinformed at one point or another in life.

Of course gameplay is more important. Crysis is proof of that, the game looks great, but the gameplay is crap. Hermits overexaggerated it big time, which is funny because they have the worst version.

ShadowMoses900

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Of course gameplay is more important. Crysis is proof of that, the game looks great, but the gameplay is crap. Hermits overexaggerated it big time, which is funny because they have the worst version.

ShadowMoses900

wat

What part do you need informing on? The gameplay vs graphics part? Or Crysis being proof that gameplay is more important and being better on PC?

I am happy to help. Many people are misinformed on here so I will lend a hand if you need it. We are all misinformed at one point or another in life.

I am curious as to what bullsh!t logic you've thought up as to why Crysis is the worst on PC.

...I agree with the title at least.

Oh it's this guy.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

wat

whiskeystrike

What part do you need informing on? The gameplay vs graphics part? Or Crysis being proof that gameplay is more important and being better on PC?

I am happy to help. Many people are misinformed on here so I will lend a hand if you need it. We are all misinformed at one point or another in life.

I am curious as to what bullsh!t logic you've thought up as to why Crysis is the worst on PC.

It is not my logic, it is the devs logic. Are you calling the devs Bullsh!t? They know more than you do freind, they make games for a living, you do not. You are not a game designer, so you don't know anything.

Crytek: 'Crysis On Console Looks Better Than PC Version ...

Even the sites that fanboys love so much agree:

Lens of Truth: console versions look better than PC

But those Lens of Truth sites are made to make fanboys happy, so I do not care what they say. But plenty of people (fanboys) on here take them as the word of god.

You can tell the people that have been on for awhile because their start babbling nonsense.

i would hardly call that gaping holes, seeing as call of duty is the only multiplat besides gta that flys off the shelves and wii obviously has that one and like i said before gameplay matters most , to bad the 360 library consist of nothing but bad shooting games that rip off call of duty and 007 ,

which is why i said wii and ps3 have the better library lol they both offer variety where as 360 just gives you nothing but shooting games that look gorgeous but play like #$%^

This is not a fact.

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

What part do you need informing on? The gameplay vs graphics part? Or Crysis being proof that gameplay is more important and being better on PC?

I am happy to help. Many people are misinformed on here so I will lend a hand if you need it. We are all misinformed at one point or another in life.

ShadowMoses900

I am curious as to what bullsh!t logic you've thought up as to why Crysis is the worst on PC.

It is not my logic, it is the devs logic. Are you calling the devs Bullsh!t? They know more than you do freind, they make games for a living, you do not. You are not a game designer, so you don't know anything.

Crytek: 'Crysis On Console Looks Better Than PC Version ...

Even the sites that fanboys love so much agree:

Lens of Truth: console versions look better than PC

But those Lens of Truth sites are made to make fanboys happy, so I do not care what they say. But plenty of people (fanboys) on here take them as the word of god.

Goddamnit, I thought you had actually something worth discussing

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

I am curious as to what bullsh!t logic you've thought up as to why Crysis is the worst on PC.

whiskeystrike

It is not my logic, it is the devs logic. Are you calling the devs Bullsh!t? They know more than you do freind, they make games for a living, you do not. You are not a game designer, so you don't know anything.

Crytek: 'Crysis On Console Looks Better Than PC Version ...

Even the sites that fanboys love so much agree:

Lens of Truth: console versions look better than PC

But those Lens of Truth sites are made to make fanboys happy, so I do not care what they say. But plenty of people (fanboys) on here take them as the word of god.

Goddamnit, I thought you had actually something worth discussing

There is no discussion here friend, there is only learning. You can not argue with the devs. Sorry but they are credible, you are not. Unless you make games for living then you can't suggest that you know about games than they do, especially the game that the devs themselves made. I think they know more about their OWN game than you do.

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

What part do you need informing on? The gameplay vs graphics part? Or Crysis being proof that gameplay is more important and being better on PC?

I am happy to help. Many people are misinformed on here so I will lend a hand if you need it. We are all misinformed at one point or another in life.

ShadowMoses900

I am curious as to what bullsh!t logic you've thought up as to why Crysis is the worst on PC.

It is not my logic, it is the devs logic. Are you calling the devs Bullsh!t? They know more than you do freind, they make games for a living, you do not. You are not a game designer, so you don't know anything.

Crytek: 'Crysis On Console Looks Better Than PC Version ...

Even the sites that fanboys love so much agree:

Lens of Truth: console versions look better than PC

But those Lens of Truth sites are made to make fanboys happy, so I do not care what they say. But plenty of people (fanboys) on here take them as the word of god.

Oh what a surprise. Once again, shadowmoses quotes that line from that interview with Cevat Yerli, without providing a link to the full interview, where he says that he thinks Crysis on consoles looks better from an artistic standpoint, because of the new engine, but Crysis on a high end PC is still technically better, while also running at over twice the framerate.

From the FULL INTERVIEW:

Does the finished product on consoles run at the specs you would like?

Yeah, it runs at the same fidelity as Crysis 2, but the frame rate is a solid 25-30, its not a 60FPS game. It feels very fluid on consoles, and weve also made an effort in remastering the content for consoles.

What I mean by that is weve given it a whole new lighting path, quite a few new special effects, weve added the Nanosuit 2 controls, and all of this has added to, as well as improved the experience.

I want to be clear; when I say the console versions look better than Crysis on PC, I mean that as a factual thing, not in terms of technical specifications.

So you mean as more of an art consideration?

Artistic perspective is better. But then if you look at it from a purely technical perspective; the original Crysis on a super duper PC will always run better than on consoles. Theres no doubt about that.

NowGamer

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

It is not my logic, it is the devs logic. Are you calling the devs Bullsh!t? They know more than you do freind, they make games for a living, you do not. You are not a game designer, so you don't know anything.

Crytek: 'Crysis On Console Looks Better Than PC Version ...

Even the sites that fanboys love so much agree:

Lens of Truth: console versions look better than PC

But those Lens of Truth sites are made to make fanboys happy, so I do not care what they say. But plenty of people (fanboys) on here take them as the word of god.

ShadowMoses900

Goddamnit, I thought you had actually something worth discussing

There is no discussion here friend, there is only learning. You can not argue with the devs. Sorry but they are credible, you are not. Unless you make games for living then you can't suggest that you know about games than they do, especially the game that the devs themselves made. I think they know more about their OWN game than you do.

I look forward to burning your own logic through you in OT religion threads lol.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

Goddamnit, I thought you had actually something worth discussing

whiskeystrike

There is no discussion here friend, there is only learning. You can not argue with the devs. Sorry but they are credible, you are not. Unless you make games for living then you can't suggest that you know about games than they do, especially the game that the devs themselves made. I think they know more about their OWN game than you do.

I look forward to burning your own logic through you in OT religion threads lol.

I'm interested to see if he'll even respond to my post, pointing out how he takes that one line from the Cevat Yerli interview out of context. I post it every time he brings that up, and he never responds.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

I am curious as to what bullsh!t logic you've thought up as to why Crysis is the worst on PC.

the_bi99man

It is not my logic, it is the devs logic. Are you calling the devs Bullsh!t? They know more than you do freind, they make games for a living, you do not. You are not a game designer, so you don't know anything.

Crytek: 'Crysis On Console Looks Better Than PC Version ...

Even the sites that fanboys love so much agree:

Lens of Truth: console versions look better than PC

But those Lens of Truth sites are made to make fanboys happy, so I do not care what they say. But plenty of people (fanboys) on here take them as the word of god.

Oh what a surprise. Once again, shadowmoses quotes that line from that interview with Cevat Yerli, without providing a link to the full interview, where he says that he thinks Crysis on consoles looks better from an artistic standpoint, because of the new engine, but Crysis on a high end PC is still technically better, while also running at over twice the framerate.

From the FULL INTERVIEW:

Does the finished product on consoles run at the specs you would like?

Yeah, it runs at the same fidelity as Crysis 2, but the frame rate is a solid 25-30, its not a 60FPS game. It feels very fluid on consoles, and weve also made an effort in remastering the content for consoles.

What I mean by that is weve given it a whole new lighting path, quite a few new special effects, weve added the Nanosuit 2 controls, and all of this has added to, as well as improved the experience.

I want to be clear; when I say the console versions look better than Crysis on PC, I mean that as a factual thing, not in terms of technical specifications.

So you mean as more of an art consideration?

Artistic perspective is better. But then if you look at it from a purely technical perspective; the original Crysis on a super duper PC will always run better than on consoles. Theres no doubt about that.

NowGamer

He'll ignore your reply as he doesn't like logic or truth. He's not very bright. kingtito

He always does. Every time he cites that interview, with the same link, to the article that only has that one line, taken completely out of context, and I respond with the full interview, obliterating his point. He usually just disappears for a little bit, until there a good pile of posts since mine, then comes back in, repeating the same crap.

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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

I am curious as to what bullsh!t logic you've thought up as to why Crysis is the worst on PC.

the_bi99man

It is not my logic, it is the devs logic. Are you calling the devs Bullsh!t? They know more than you do freind, they make games for a living, you do not. You are not a game designer, so you don't know anything.

Crytek: 'Crysis On Console Looks Better Than PC Version ...

Even the sites that fanboys love so much agree:

Lens of Truth: console versions look better than PC

But those Lens of Truth sites are made to make fanboys happy, so I do not care what they say. But plenty of people (fanboys) on here take them as the word of god.

Oh what a surprise. Once again, shadowmoses quotes that line from that interview with Cevat Yerli, without providing a link to the full interview, where he says that he thinks Crysis on consoles looks better from an artistic standpoint, because of the new engine, but Crysis on a high end PC is still technically better, while also running at over twice the framerate.

From the FULL INTERVIEW:

Does the finished product on consoles run at the specs you would like?

Yeah, it runs at the same fidelity as Crysis 2, but the frame rate is a solid 25-30, its not a 60FPS game. It feels very fluid on consoles, and weve also made an effort in remastering the content for consoles.

What I mean by that is weve given it a whole new lighting path, quite a few new special effects, weve added the Nanosuit 2 controls, and all of this has added to, as well as improved the experience.

I want to be clear; when I say the console versions look better than Crysis on PC, I mean that as a factual thing, not in terms of technical specifications.

So you mean as more of an art consideration?

Artistic perspective is better. But then if you look at it from a purely technical perspective; the original Crysis on a super duper PC will always run better than on consoles. Theres no doubt about that.

NowGamer

The devs said it looks better on consoles. Artistic or otherwise, it still looks better according to the people that made the game, and they know more than you do. If I made a car and you drove it around, would you know more about the car's design than I did? Didn't think so. Same thing applies here.

I'm tired of this stupid argument. They both matter. Only people who want to sound like 'real' gamers say this in attempt to show they aren't wowed by something that is seemingly superficial (which it is not)

For example, SS is a great game held back by the Wii's terrible power. Too many jaggies and stuff didn't let the artists fufill their vision fully.

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PhazonBlazer

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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

Goddamnit, I thought you had actually something worth discussing

whiskeystrike

There is no discussion here friend, there is only learning. You can not argue with the devs. Sorry but they are credible, you are not. Unless you make games for living then you can't suggest that you know about games than they do, especially the game that the devs themselves made. I think they know more about their OWN game than you do.

I look forward to burning your own logic through you in OT religion threads lol.

There are no discussions about religion in OT. It just a bunch of militant atheist kids ganging up on the religious people like me and making fun of us. It's very one sided and the OT community is not very tolerant or open minded. My religious values are very important to me, and OT does not respect religious people.

Of course gameplay is more important. Crysis is proof of that, the game looks great, but the gameplay is crap. Hermits overexaggerated it big time, which is funny because they have the worst version.

ShadowMoses900

Crysis is a very fun game :?. The ending sucks, but the game is pretty good otherwise.

People need to stop the graphics vs gameplay crap. Of course graphics are not everything, and of course graphics are nice and can make gameplay better. We can and do have both, so just leave it alone.

The devs said it looks better on consoles. Artistic or otherwise, it still looks better according to the people that made the game, and they know more than you do. If I made a car and you drove it around, would you know more about the car's design than I did? Didn't think so. Same thing applies here.

ShadowMoses900

Oh look, you finally responded. And with opinions, rather than facts. Imagine that. Even if it's the developer's OPINION that the game looks better, "artistically", it's still just another OPINION, about something that is completely subjective. While in the very same interview, the very same developer stated that it's still a FACT that the PC version is technially superior, and that's something that can actually be objectively measured. Combined with the FACT that Crysis 1 running on a PC that can handle it runs at over twice the framerate of the console versions, and it's still objectively a better looking game. And that's just vanilla. With the right mods, it can't even be a matter of opinion anymore. If you've seen Crysis 1 with the realistic lighting mods, and all the high-res texture packs, running at 45-60 fps, and you still think the console version looks better, you are blind. End of discussion.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

The devs said it looks better on consoles. Artistic or otherwise, it still looks better according to the people that made the game, and they know more than you do. If I made a car and you drove it around, would you know more about the car's design than I did? Didn't think so. Same thing applies here.

the_bi99man

Oh look, you finally responded. And with opinions, rather than facts. Imagine that. Even if it's the developer's OPINION that the game looks better, "artistically", it's still just another OPINION, about something that is completely subjective. While in the very same interview, the very same developer stated that it's still a FACT that the PC version is technially superior, and that's something that can actually be objectively measured. Combined with the FACT that Crysis 1 running on a PC that can handle it runs at over twice the framerate of the console versions, and it's still objectively a better looking game. And that's just vanilla. With the right mods, it can't even be a matter of opinion anymore. If you've seen Crysis 1 with the realistic lighting mods, and all the high-res texture packs, running at 45-60 fps, and you still think the console version looks better, you are blind. End of discussion.

ShadowMoses can't handle the facts.

I do not see how any fanboy will over look the fact that the xbox360 is not fun to look at ,

if all you care about is graphics your looking in the wrong place, fact!

if i took wii and 360 laid their game library on a scale wiis games would definatelly out wiegh the 360 library regardless of how many shovelware titles are , why because gameplay is what matters most and since 2009 all 360 seams to offer is your average 4 hour shoot em up ,

with the occasional sports game in between is 1 racing game -we all know what it is , ,

and if we took away games on ps3 pc as well , then 360 woud be wieghtless ,

its the same if i put ps3 games on a scale with wii games, but to a lesser extent due to the sheer quality of first party titles both ps3 and wii offer ,

its a shame ms cant understand that logic

they seam to want graphics graphics graphics for example halo 4 all i hear 343 talk about are its graphics ! give me bots in multiplayer give me diferent charcter choices in multiplayer give me more new guns give me more of everything ,

that is one reason why wii and ps3 has 360 beat in terms of gameplay ,

mariokart64fan

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

The devs said it looks better on consoles. Artistic or otherwise, it still looks better according to the people that made the game, and they know more than you do. If I made a car and you drove it around, would you know more about the car's design than I did? Didn't think so. Same thing applies here.

the_bi99man

Oh look, you finally responded. And with opinions, rather than facts. Imagine that. Even if it's the developer's OPINION that the game looks better, "artistically", it's still just another OPINION, about something that is completely subjective. While in the very same interview, the very same developer stated that it's still a FACT that the PC version is technially superior, and that's something that can actually be objectively measured. Combined with the FACT that Crysis 1 running on a PC that can handle it runs at over twice the framerate of the console versions, and it's still objectively a better looking game. And that's just vanilla. With the right mods, it can't even be a matter of opinion anymore. If you've seen Crysis 1 with the realistic lighting mods, and all the high-res texture packs, running at 45-60 fps, and you still think the console version looks better, you are blind. End of discussion.

Not much difference between the vanilla versions.

Watch this in-depth comparison done by the pros at IGN: Crysis 2: PS3 vs Xbox 360 vs PC - Console Comparison-IGN

The devs said it looked better on consoles so it does. You can't argue with the people who made the game, they know more than you ever will. Just another misinformed Hermit trying to justify his purcahse again....

how does a a graphic vs gameplay topic turn into a troll bashing 360 because halo 4 got graphics upgrade?k2theswiss

It's system wars.

For me it goes a little something like this:

Story > Gameplay > Graphics

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

The devs said it looks better on consoles. Artistic or otherwise, it still looks better according to the people that made the game, and they know more than you do. If I made a car and you drove it around, would you know more about the car's design than I did? Didn't think so. Same thing applies here.

the_bi99man

Oh look, you finally responded. And with opinions, rather than facts. Imagine that. Even if it's the developer's OPINION that the game looks better, "artistically", it's still just another OPINION, about something that is completely subjective. While in the very same interview, the very same developer stated that it's still a FACT that the PC version is technially superior, and that's something that can actually be objectively measured. Combined with the FACT that Crysis 1 running on a PC that can handle it runs at over twice the framerate of the console versions, and it's still objectively a better looking game. And that's just vanilla. With the right mods, it can't even be a matter of opinion anymore. If you've seen Crysis 1 with the realistic lighting mods, and all the high-res texture packs, running at 45-60 fps, and you still think the console version looks better, you are blind. End of discussion.

Don't waste your breath. He's one of the biggest fanboy/troll GS has to offer. He'll never listen to logic and we will never know why he is so insecure about his console purchase(s).

Not much difference between the vanilla versions.

Watch this in-depth comparison done by the pros at IGN: Crysis 2: PS3 vs Xbox 360 vs PC - Console Comparison-IGN

The devs said it looked better on consoles so it does. You can't argue with the people who made the game, they know more than you ever will. Just another misinformed Hermit trying to justify his purcahse again....

ShadowMoses900

We were talking about Crysis 1, not 2. Or did you finally give up on that argument?

Opinions are opinions, no matter who they're coming from. And no, I'm not uninformed, or trying to "justify my purchase". I bought Crysis 4 years before it was available on consoles, have played it dozens of times, and play with a mess of free mods that make it look better than any game that's ever been on a console. My purchase is more than justified. You can keep acting like a bunch of words spoken by people you've never met make your experience better. Enjoy.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Not much difference between the vanilla versions.

Watch this in-depth comparison done by the pros at IGN: Crysis 2: PS3 vs Xbox 360 vs PC - Console Comparison-IGN

The devs said it looked better on consoles so it does. You can't argue with the people who made the game, they know more than you ever will. Just another misinformed Hermit trying to justify his purcahse again....

the_bi99man

We were talking about Crysis 1, not 2. Or did you finally give up on that argument?

Opinions are opinions, no matter who they're coming from. And no, I'm not uninformed, or trying to "justify my purchase". I bought Crysis 4 years before it was available on consoles, have played it dozens of times, and play with a mess of free mods that make it look better than any game that's ever been on a console. My purchase is more than justified. You can keep acting like a bunch of words spoken by people you've never met make your experience better. Enjoy.

I never played Crysis before. So I don't really care.

[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Not much difference between the vanilla versions.

Watch this in-depth comparison done by the pros at IGN: Crysis 2: PS3 vs Xbox 360 vs PC - Console Comparison-IGN

The devs said it looked better on consoles so it does. You can't argue with the people who made the game, they know more than you ever will. Just another misinformed Hermit trying to justify his purcahse again....

ShadowMoses900

We were talking about Crysis 1, not 2. Or did you finally give up on that argument?

Opinions are opinions, no matter who they're coming from. And no, I'm not uninformed, or trying to "justify my purchase". I bought Crysis 4 years before it was available on consoles, have played it dozens of times, and play with a mess of free mods that make it look better than any game that's ever been on a console. My purchase is more than justified. You can keep acting like a bunch of words spoken by people you've never met make your experience better. Enjoy.

I never played Crysis before. So I don't really care.

Could have fooled me, with how often you bring it up.

[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Not much difference between the vanilla versions.

Watch this in-depth comparison done by the pros at IGN: Crysis 2: PS3 vs Xbox 360 vs PC - Console Comparison-IGN

The devs said it looked better on consoles so it does. You can't argue with the people who made the game, they know more than you ever will. Just another misinformed Hermit trying to justify his purcahse again....

ShadowMoses900

We were talking about Crysis 1, not 2. Or did you finally give up on that argument?

Opinions are opinions, no matter who they're coming from. And no, I'm not uninformed, or trying to "justify my purchase". I bought Crysis 4 years before it was available on consoles, have played it dozens of times, and play with a mess of free mods that make it look better than any game that's ever been on a console. My purchase is more than justified. You can keep acting like a bunch of words spoken by people you've never met make your experience better. Enjoy.

I never played Crysis before. So I don't really care.

...And the ownage is complete. Oh poor mosey.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

We were talking about Crysis 1, not 2. Or did you finally give up on that argument?

Opinions are opinions, no matter who they're coming from. And no, I'm not uninformed, or trying to "justify my purchase". I bought Crysis 4 years before it was available on consoles, have played it dozens of times, and play with a mess of free mods that make it look better than any game that's ever been on a console. My purchase is more than justified. You can keep acting like a bunch of words spoken by people you've never met make your experience better. Enjoy.

The_Stand_In

I never played Crysis before. So I don't really care.

...And the ownage is complete. Oh poor mosey.

Hahaha. Revel in it. That's the closest he'll ever come to admitting defeat.

gameplay > graphics check

Wii > 360 check

Wii Exclusives > Ps3 exclusives check

DS > All

[QUOTE="k2theswiss"]how does a a graphic vs gameplay topic turn into a troll bashing 360 because halo 4 got graphics upgrade?the_bi99man

It's system wars.