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#1 xxKAMIKAZExx
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So, for my scienceĀ  fair project me and this dude are going to team up and have people over one of our houses[He has a 360 I have a Wii] to play both Xbox 360 and Wii versions of games to see which they feel gets them involved into the video game more - visual stimulants or active stimulants.

I was thinking about testing it with Call of Duty[looks awesome on 360, REALLY crappy on Wii] but I don't know any other games I could use.

Anyone have any suggestions???
[I'd preffer games where the Wii version looks REALLY crappy compared to the 360 to focus on the "gameplay" factor for the Wii version.]
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#2 twags82
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I'd brainstorm up a new project.
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#3 BillGreen68
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I'd brainstorm up a new project.twags82

Lol, I agree with the above post. Plus, you can't really objectively prove that the Wii version has better gameplay.
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you did check with your tecaher right? unless they are into gaming you may want to reconsider.
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call of duty3 sucks, they won't like either version.
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#6 Saturos3091
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Well, your project sounds --different.Ā  Try Splinter Cell: Double Agent for Wii and compare to 360 version, there'll be a large (more like HUGE) gap in graphical quality.

If you want to compare games that aren't on both consoles, go with each consoles best looking games, Gears of War and Legend of Zelda: TP.
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This is basically really unfair, unless the people you bring over already know how to play video games. Because they will obviously be able to pick up the wii and play it because it is super easy, but if they have ever played video games before then they should be able to pick up the 360. But as far as gameplay obivously people will feel more involved with the wii, because you do the motions.
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#8 BillGreen68
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Oh, right. Forgot about Madden. This will probably be your best game for superior gameplay for the Wii.
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#9 Strakha
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I think COD has both better gameplay and graphics on the 360. So that might not be a good one to test.
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you did check with your tecaher right? unless they are into gaming you may want to reconsider.mercenar3
Yeah. We checked with the AP Enviornmental Science teacher too. She took 3 projects from our school to nationals last year, and she approved of it.
[QUOTE="twags82"]I'd brainstorm up a new project.BillGreen68

Lol, I agree with the above post. Plus, you can't really objectively prove that the Wii version has better gameplay.

True, but if you read it again I'm not really trying to test the "gameplay" factor. "...Xbox 360 and Wii versions of games to see which they feel gets them involved into the video game more - visual stimulants or active stimulants." It's just wether you'd be more into it by having more realistic visuals, better textures, and all that good stuff with button presses vs. less realistic visuals, muddy textures, etc., but with more interactivity.
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Well, your project sounds --different. Try Splinter Cell: Double Agent for Wii and compare to 360 version, there'll be a large (more like HUGE) gap in graphical qualitySaturos3091
Holy crap. Great idea. That game looks horrid on Wii. Haha.
This is basically really unfair, unless the people you bring over already know how to play video games...air0123
Yeah, we thought that through too...there's a large base of PC players at our school, so we're gonna try to get them to go over first. We're gonna try to cover all the bases by bringing in people who have never played before, casuals, semi-casuals, hardcore games.....pretty much everyone. We're gonna graph their tendecies according to their "video game playing experience" and after all those individual graphs we're gonna do the overall one.
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#12 xxKAMIKAZExx
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No one else has any good games to reccomend?
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Well, your project sounds --different. Try Splinter Cell: Double Agent for Wii and compare to 360 version, there'll be a large (more like HUGE) gap in graphical quality.Saturos3091


Dude, he could compare the PS2 version and there'd still be a huge friggin' difference.
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#14 KirbyFan10101
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Ugh. Science isn't about the opinions of some of your friends. Social science requires thousands of data samples, and even then its still a very narrow view. Choose a project with which the results are quantitative.
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#15 mr_pops238
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Dont worry. Any PS360 game pwns anything on the wii seeing as it has last gen 2001 hardware.
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It not right to compare a 3 month old console and a 1 year & 3 month console. It's just does not match yet. One is quite mature while the other was just born.
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I can envision you failing the project.
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#18 BTBAM127
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what aboutĀ Ā Marvel Ultimate Alliance
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What's your hypothesis? What are your controls in the experiment? (i see the game but both variable are changing so how can you draw conclusions?) How are you going to pick subjects? How are your subjects going to interact and how will you collect data?
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[QUOTE="Ontain"]What's your hypothesis? What are your controls in the experiment? (i see the game but both variable are changing so how can you draw conclusions?) How are you going to pick subjects? How are your subjects going to interact and how will you collect data?

lol, yes, its a bit flawed.
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So, for my scienceĀ  fair project me and this dude are going to team up and have people over one of our houses[He has a 360 I have a Wii] to play both Xbox 360 and Wii versions of games to see which they feel gets them involved into the video game more - visual stimulants or active stimulants.

I was thinking about testing it with Call of Duty[looks awesome on 360, REALLY crappy on Wii] but I don't know any other games I could use.

Anyone have any suggestions???
[I'd preffer games where the Wii version looks REALLY crappy compared to the 360 to focus on the "gameplay" factor for the Wii version.]
xxKAMIKAZExx

If your project is meant to prove graphics vs. gameplay then you have already failed miserably.Ā  First of all, what does graphics vs. gameplay have to do with comparing two consoles?Ā  You have already started off on a completely faulty note as your hypothesis is seperate from the console comparison.Ā  To be an actal scientific study you should be able to prove it with any and all consoles by comparing games with bad graphics and good gameplay to games that are the vice versa.Ā 

Second, playng the exact same game on two console is a completely fraudulent choice because the gameplay is going to mostly be identical.Ā  YOU seem to think gameplay means purely the controller...which is wrong.Ā  Why not play Splinter Cell on the 360 and the Xbox and judge that?Ā  It is just as wrong and faulty because if the gameplay is the same of extremely similar, then clearly the game with the better graphics will win.Ā  But again, that is not what you are supposedly claiming to study is it?

Third, you need a proper data sample and therefore should use as many games as possible for as many consoles as possible.Ā  What does somebody think of Tetris compared to Splinter Cell for 360?Ā  Which do they feel is more fun vs which is graphically superior?Ā  What abour Mario 3 compared to Gears of War?Ā  Which do people find more fun or replayable compared to graphically impressive.Ā 

Fourth and finally...you need to set a standard for what people consider to be good graphics.Ā  For example, cell shading can look great but is it considered as graphically impressive as realistic looking games?Ā  Or is the ability to depict realism all you consider graphically impressive?Ā  What about animation or artistic impression.Ā  You will need to ask more people thanĀ just your buddy or else your whole study is falwed.

Sorry, but if your whole project is you and your friend playing the exact same game on the Wii and 360 then using THAT to prove your theory then you've failed.Ā  Save yourself the time and just make a baking-soda volcano...there's more science there than what you are proposing.Ā Ā 

If what you REALLY want to compare is which is more immersive, graphics vs controler then you are still doing it with bias.Ā  Why not compare something like excite truck to a 360 driving game and ask which they feel is more imersiev and like they are really into the game?Ā  Why not compare Wii sports tennis to a 360 tennins game and ask which feels more like an immersive tennis experience?Ā  Yet you don't do any of that. Instead you just want to compare ports.

Frankly, I can only assume you are not telling the truth, and you are NOT trying to prove what you claim.Ā  No.Ā  I think you are trying to prove that graphics are more important or better liked and yoru study is based around trying to justify your predisposed opinion.Ā IN fact, I will go one step furtherĀ and say your whole project is little more than you trying to tell people the 360 is better than the Wii.Ā  Do you getĀ graded for PR? Ā Because that is the result you will get by doing what you are doing.Ā  That is obvious.Ā  Your study as you are planning it represents everything scientists are told NOT to do when doing research.

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So, for my science fair project me and this dude are going to team up and have people over one of our houses[He has a 360 I have a Wii] to play both Xbox 360 and Wii versions of games to see which they feel gets them involved into the video game more - visual stimulants or active stimulants.

I was thinking about testing it with Call of Duty[looks awesome on 360, REALLY crappy on Wii] but I don't know any other games I could use.

Anyone have any suggestions???
[I'd preffer games where the Wii version looks REALLY crappy compared to the 360 to focus on the "gameplay" factor for the Wii version.]
xxKAMIKAZExx
I'd get random people to play random games on both, and ask them to compare their experience. It could even be TP and Gears, just make sure you have a lot of data to present.
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#23 ZebethOrZebes
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How about Madden. But yeah, this is a kind of foolish idea for a science fair project.
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call of duty3 sucks, they won't like either version.topgunmv
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Id rather do a science project on the genetic makeup of a fanboy.
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[QUOTE="xxKAMIKAZExx"]So, for my science fair project me and this dude are going to team up and have people over one of our houses[He has a 360 I have a Wii] to play both Xbox 360 and Wii versions of games to see which they feel gets them involved into the video game more - visual stimulants or active stimulants.

I was thinking about testing it with Call of Duty[looks awesome on 360, REALLY crappy on Wii] but I don't know any other games I could use.

Anyone have any suggestions???
[I'd preffer games where the Wii version looks REALLY crappy compared to the 360 to focus on the "gameplay" factor for the Wii version.]
ZIMdoom

If your project is meant to prove graphics vs. gameplay then you have already failed miserably. First of all, what does graphics vs. gameplay have to do with comparing two consoles? You have already started off on a completely faulty note as your hypothesis is seperate from the console comparison. To be an actal scientific study you should be able to prove it with any and all consoles by comparing games with bad graphics and good gameplay to games that are the vice versa.

Second, playng the exact same game on two console is a completely fraudulent choice because the gameplay is going to mostly be identical. YOU seem to think gameplay means purely the controller...which is wrong. Why not play Splinter Cell on the 360 and the Xbox and judge that? It is just as wrong and faulty because if the gameplay is the same of extremely similar, then clearly the game with the better graphics will win. But again, that is not what you are supposedly claiming to study is it?

Third, you need a proper data sample and therefore should use as many games as possible for as many consoles as possible. What does somebody think of Tetris compared to Splinter Cell for 360? Which do they feel is more fun vs which is graphically superior? What abour Mario 3 compared to Gears of War? Which do people find more fun or replayable compared to graphically impressive.

Fourth and finally...you need to set a standard for what people consider to be good graphics. For example, cell shading can look great but is it considered as graphically impressive as realistic looking games? Or is the ability to depict realism all you consider graphically impressive? What about animation or artistic impression. You will need to ask more people than just your buddy or else your whole study is falwed.

Sorry, but if your whole project is you and your friend playing the exact same game on the Wii and 360 then using THAT to prove your theory then you've failed. Save yourself the time and just make a baking-soda volcano...there's more science there than what you are proposing.

If what you REALLY want to compare is which is more immersive, graphics vs controler then you are still doing it with bias. Why not compare something like excite truck to a 360 driving game and ask which they feel is more imersiev and like they are really into the game? Why not compare Wii sports tennis to a 360 tennins game and ask which feels more like an immersive tennis experience? Yet you don't do any of that. Instead you just want to compare ports.

Frankly, I can only assume you are not telling the truth, and you are NOT trying to prove what you claim. No. I think you are trying to prove that graphics are more important or better liked and yoru study is based around trying to justify your predisposed opinion. IN fact, I will go one step further and say your whole project is little more than you trying to tell people the 360 is better than the Wii. Do you get graded for PR? Because that is the result you will get by doing what you are doing. That is obvious. Your study as you are planning it represents everything scientists are told NOT to do when doing research.

#1. If you read anything at all, it's not going to be just me and my buddy. Our school has over 4,000 possible students. I'm not saying we could do everyone, but the "film and video games club" has over 100. They stay after school every friday for a couple of hours and play video games in the auditorium or watch a movie. We can start there, and branch out to other gamers and non gamers alike that are not in the club. #2. We can still incorporate games in similar genres that arent ports. What would be a good 360 game to put up against Exite Truck? The Tennis games sound like a good idea, thanks for that one. Any other games you think we could use? #3. I think the 360 is great and all, but I'm not trying to prove that it's better then the Wii. In fact, I'm the one that owns the Wii, and I love it.
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#27 Conker-Fan
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You cant make a science fair project out of this- science needs numbers that will hold true. This is more of a probability thing considering that people have different opinions, not science
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You cant make a science fair project out of this- science needs numbers that will hold true. This is more of a probability thing considering that people have different opinions, not scienceConker-Fan
Word, it sounds more like marketing research than science. But if your teacher is ok about it, why not? At least it wold be fun.
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#29 glitchgeeman
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Problem is that all games on both the 360 and the Wii are REALLY bad on the Wii. You'd need some variety, like comparing some sports game on the 360 to Wii Sports. Or Madden. That's the only multiplat game where the Wii version is superior.

So unless you use different games and non-multiplats, the Wii is going to look VERY bad compared to the 360, no matter what kinda gameplay it has.

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#30 spikegriffin
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Personally, it sounds like your going about it wrong mostly in the sence of horrible looking games on the Wii.Ā 

Madden is probally your best bet to test for a few reasons.

1) It showcases the superior graphics of the 360 and has a unique control scheme for the Wii

2) While everyone might not know how to play games, everyone knows at least something about football.Ā  So it'll make a good case study for a large group of gamers and non-gamers.

3) (Going along with #1) Its the only multiplat game that is TRULY designed to suit the strengths of each console, unlike COD3 or Splinter cell, which are closer to ports with tacked on controls.

So, all in all, you want Madden.Ā  Oh, and its graphics are crappy compared to 360, so that should be sufficient for you too.

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#32 Tylendal
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Force Unleashed. The 360 version has better graphics and physics, while the Wii version has better targeting and very intuitive controls.
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#33 purple_MAN1832
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You realize you bumped a 2 year old thread right?