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#1 KingOfKonging
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As of today Gamreankings is no longer using decimal points, they will now be rounding all of their final rankings.

So, if a game averages out to be 89.4 it will be bumped down to an 89. If it averages an 89.6 it will be bumped up to a 90.

It has already had an impact, the top ten it completely different now. Hours ago, Galaxy was number 2. Now that it has been rounded it's tied for number 1 with Ocarina. Several others in the top ten have been affected as well, now that many are simply "tied" with eachother due to rounding.

This new system doesn't make any sense when considering how the overwhelming amount of game review sites use the decimal system. They're taking all of those scores, averaging them, and then either rounding up or down.

Well, bye bye Gamerankings I guess.

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#2 meetroid8
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MC does that too....
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#3 Funkyhamster
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...who cares?
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#4 KingOfKonging
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The battle for 2nd place (since two games are tied for first) is now an 8 way tie.

Lol.

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#5 DarkQuark
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EVERYBODY PANIC!!!

Seriously, goddamn it, can't you judge a game based on your own opinions and no one else's? How picky can you get?

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#6 HappyAppe
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Seems like a better system to me. Stops people from nitpicking over single decimal point differences in scores.

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#7 Gimli524
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GR > MC. The end.
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#8 KingOfKonging
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EVERYBODY PANIC!!!

Seriously, goddamn it, can't you judge a game based on your own opinions and no one else's? How picky can you get?

DarkQuark

No, REALLY?!?!

GASP.

Seriosuly, no ****. These scores have no impact on how I personally feel about any of those games, but it does impact how game scores work in this forum (ever since most people seem to be using GR's scores as the official marks after the whole Gerstmann thing.)

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#9 MikeE21286
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MC does that too....meetroid8

yep, there's no real argument to be had here about this...

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#10 MrSickVisionz
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This is silly. Gamerankings will be valid until they start using weighted averages.
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#11 KingOfKonging
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The new GR top ten list:

1st place:

-tie- Ocarina and Galaxy.

2nd place:

-tie- RE4, Prime, HL2, Halo CE,Orange Box PC, Orange Box 360, Soul Calibur, Tekken 3, Mario 64

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#12 IkeandPit
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umm i think SMG and LOZ were both 97.6 before they rounded them up, so ya it doesnt really affect those game
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#13 mo0ksi
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Oh no, this is such a crisis! Forget fighting against poverty and looking for good treatment for HIV cause GR is now rounding their average!
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#14 KingOfKonging
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Ocarina was 97.8.

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#15 meetroid8
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The new GR top ten list:

1st place:

-tie- Ocarina and Galaxy.

2nd place:

-tie- RE4, Prime, HL2, Halo CE,Orange Box PC, Orange Box 360, Soul Calibur, Tekken 3, Mario 64

KingOfKonging
Its not any different on MC. :(
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#16 Ontain
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technically since they data they use has only 2 significant digits they should only have use 2 to start with.

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#17 Tib3ron
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Interesting, so if you have more reviews it rates you higher in the actual listing, and SMG's score is actually tied with Ocarina now, it didnt get rounded up, it just got some more reviews.
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#18 rimnet00
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It makes more sense that way IMO. Personally, I think its to save on hardware costs. It's "cheaper" to do database work on a range of 100 scores, versus 1000 scores.
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As of today Gamreankings is no longer using decimal points, they will now be rounding all of their final rankings.

So, if a game averages out to be 89.4 it will be bumped down to an 89. If it averages an 89.6 it will be bumped up to a 90.

It has already had an impact, the top ten it completely different now. Hours ago, Galaxy was number 2. Now that it has been rounded it's tied for number 1 with Ocarina. Several others in the top ten have been affected as well, now that many are simply "tied" with eachother due to rounding.

This new system doesn't make any sense when considering how the overwhelming amount of game review sites use the decimal system. They're taking all of those scores, averaging them, and then either rounding up or down.

Well, bye bye Gamerankings I guess.

KingOfKonging

UHmmm....if you knew anything about GR, you would know they always HAVE rounded their scores. There are time when the list a game at 90 (for example), but when you click on the game and go to the dedicated game page, the actual average score there is lower. Why? Because they rounded up for the main page.

GR has always rounded their scores for certain aspects of the site. Removing it NOW makes no difference at all.

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#20 thriteenthmonke
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Ocarina was 97.8.

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97.6

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#21 Ibacai
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When was GR ever credible besides for a place to find a bunch of reviews? So many things wrong with comparing averaged scores on GR.
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#22 Greyhound222
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Well I guess Galaxy is technically better since it withstood more reviews.
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#23 SuperVegeta518
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That seems pointless.

"Gamerankings.com now 100% less accurate!"

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Metroid Prime is now in 4th place.

This dissatisfies me

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#25 darkslider99
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um they only round on the top ten pages. If you go to the list of the all the reviews, it still does an average to 1 decimal place. Your thread fails. Research a bit more before you make such a stupid and wrong topic.
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#26 NaturalDeezism
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Since when were reviews credible in the first place?

Wait, nevermind.

I forgot we all had to take the System Wars oath and promised not to have our own opinion on games.

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Leave it to CNET for screwing..... yet another site. I expect metacritic to follow suit. Look somewhere else people if you want absolute accuracy.
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#28 KingOfKonging
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Metroid Prime is now in 4th place.

This dissatisfies me

thriteenthmonke

Actually, it's in second. The order they list them in doen't matter, it's in like a 300-way tie for second. They all have identical scores.

GR top ten is no longer a real top ten. It is two games tied for first, and eight games tied for second.

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#29 Dreamable
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Ugh... now Soul Caliber is #9, it was so awesome having a Dreamcast game (Especially Soul Caliber) being nuber 4... :(
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#30 darkslider99
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[QUOTE="thriteenthmonke"]

Metroid Prime is now in 4th place.

This dissatisfies me

KingOfKonging

Actually, it's in second. The order they list them in doen't matter, it's in like a 300-way tie for second. They all have identical scores.

GR top ten is no longer a real top ten. It is two games tied for first, and eight games tied for second.


Once again, it only rounds to 1 decimal o the main page. You can still click on the game and see it's real score.

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#31 Hexagon_777
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Super Mario Galaxy is actually above OoT since it has more reviews, meanining that SMG is first and OoT is second. It's far harder to sustain an average of 98% with 50+ reviews than with 30+ reviews. The fact that Metroid Prime is now 4th because of this and not third like it used to be irks me, though. Halo suddenly popped into the list as well, wtf?
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#32 thriteenthmonke
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[QUOTE="thriteenthmonke"]

Metroid Prime is now in 4th place.

This dissatisfies me

KingOfKonging

Actually, it's in second. The order they list them in doen't matter, it's in like a 300-way tie for second. They all have identical scores.

GR top ten is no longer a real top ten. It is two games tied for first, and eight games tied for second.

But it's listed 4th

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#33 darkslider99
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Super Mario Galaxy is actually above OoT since it has more reviews, meanining that SMG is first and OoT is second. It's far harder to sustain an average of 98% with 50+ reviews than with 30+ reviews. The fact that Metroid Prime is now 4th because of this and not third like it used to be irks me, though. Halo suddenly popped into the list as well, wtf?Hexagon_777

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#34 LTomlinson21
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I think it's dumb to round up or down when reviewing games. The tenth decimal spot is a very gooy way to leave it.
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#35 KingOfKonging
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[QUOTE="KingOfKonging"][QUOTE="thriteenthmonke"]

Metroid Prime is now in 4th place.

This dissatisfies me

darkslider99

Actually, it's in second. The order they list them in doen't matter, it's in like a 300-way tie for second. They all have identical scores.

GR top ten is no longer a real top ten. It is two games tied for first, and eight games tied for second.


Once again, it only rounds to 1 decimal o the main page. You can still click on the game and see it's real score.

Where? I don't see it.

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#36 darkslider99
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[QUOTE="darkslider99"][QUOTE="KingOfKonging"][QUOTE="thriteenthmonke"]

Metroid Prime is now in 4th place.

This dissatisfies me

KingOfKonging

Actually, it's in second. The order they list them in doen't matter, it's in like a 300-way tie for second. They all have identical scores.

GR top ten is no longer a real top ten. It is two games tied for first, and eight games tied for second.


Once again, it only rounds to 1 decimal o the main page. You can still click on the game and see it's real score.

Where? I don't see it.


click on Super mario Galaxy. Scroll down to where it has all the reviews for it. At the top bar of it it has the actual average,
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#37 EntwineX
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Well I never really considered it very "credible" anyway, but I guess it's stupid if the Top10 gets screwed up, but it's a cnet site ain't it, so no surprise that they are dumbing it down.
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...who cares?Funkyhamster
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Good news for cows! Now, if their games are "almost, but not quite", they can still be considered AAA! I kid....I kid...
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#40 JPOBS
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the same was said when gamespot was switching their system.

On another note though, gamerankings has never been a credible source imo.

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#41 maziso2
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As of today Gamreankings is no longer using decimal points, they will now be rounding all of their final rankings.

So, if a game averages out to be 89.4 it will be bumped down to an 89. If it averages an 89.6 it will be bumped up to a 90.

It has already had an impact, the top ten it completely different now. Hours ago, Galaxy was number 2. Now that it has been rounded it's tied for number 1 with Ocarina. Several others in the top ten have been affected as well, now that many are simply "tied" with eachother due to rounding.

This new system doesn't make any sense when considering how the overwhelming amount of game review sites use the decimal system. They're taking all of those scores, averaging them, and then either rounding up or down.

Well, bye bye Gamerankings I guess.

KingOfKonging

First of all Mario Galaxy and OOT have a score of 97.6.....so even if they didnt round up the score SMG would still be # 1. Just learn to accept it.