Certain people have posted that they they don't like/won't purchase Forza 2 because they think the graphics are average. Get over yourselves...I personally think that Forza 2 is the greatest racing game I have ever played. The look, sound, and most importantly, feel of the cars are perfect. Sure, the graphics aren't amazing, but when the game is this good, who really cares. If u want great graphics with a shallow driving experience, go play Gran Turismo, if you want an amazing racing experience; play Forza 2...