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#1 cmw3218
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Everyone I talk to in school and out dont have a clue what HD-DVD and Blue Ray is.  My point is that the majority of people out there now, have no idea what these new formats are and what they are about.  Many people dont even have the right facts about these new formats.  My one friend told me that the PS3 was better because it has Blue Ray and therefore it has better graphics.  I told him this is not true what so ever.  My prediction on this whole format war is that neither will be the standard for at least 5 years if not more.  And yes im sure you've heard this many times but its truth because simply the majority of people out there do not know much about these new formats.  Maybe its just my area, i dont know but to me everyone seems fine with DVD.  
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I've never met anyone in my highschool years who could be considered as enthusiastic about movies as most people around here are to games. Why dont you ask your biggest "movie buff" classmate about it? If you cant find any movie enthusiasts, thats probably a big reason why.
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I don't see students wasting their money on media player..... parents yes

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Blu-Ray has pretty much won.  It's all about Blu-Ray.
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I am a gamer, I have no interest in HD media... or HD console gaming...
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Incorrect. A lot of movie/video enthusiasts are excited about blu ray/hd-dvd. No, there are not a lot of average ppl that are familuar with the formats. But as more ppl adobt hdtv's, awareness of the new formats are rising. Within the next 2-3 yrs, most homes will have an hdtv in them. And they will be interested in the new formats just as all of us that currently have hdtv's are interested.... Dvd's just don't look that good on an hdtv and we didn't buy tv's that produce better sound and picture quality so that we could watch inferior versions of movies. Neither will the general public that is adopting hdtv's at a large pace already.
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Incorrect. A lot of movie/video enthusiasts are excited about blu ray/hd-dvd. No, there are not a lot of average ppl that are familuar with the formats. But as more ppl adobt hdtv's, awareness of the new formats are rising. Within the next 2-3 yrs, most homes will have an hdtv in them. And they will be interested in the new formats just as all of us that currently have hdtv's are interested.... Dvd's just don't look that good on an hdtv and we didn't buy tv's that produce better sound and picture quality so that we could watch inferior versions of movies. Neither will the general public that is adopting hdtv's at a large pace already.Sgt_Hale
yes but along with what i was saying is that the price of this stuff is to high right now for the average person to care about. If i had the money i would LOVE to have a HDTV(well i have a hd monitor) and hddvd player or blue ray but i dont, and i think thats the reason not alot of people bother wit this new stuff yet cause its still to high.
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It depends on where you ask. You're probably not going to get too many responses on the playground. You'd have better luck asking around at work or maybe at an electronics store. Basically some place where adults tend to hang out.
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very interesting point.

if most people aren't interested in hd movie players the entire 1080p selling point of bluray is useless... the $600 price point is also not a very good point either....

bad news for the ps3 which FORCES consumers to deal with hd... while the 360 gives consumers OPTIONS...

consumers LOVE options....:)

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Incorrect. A lot of movie/video enthusiasts are excited about blu ray/hd-dvd. No, there are not a lot of average ppl that are familuar with the formats. But as more ppl adobt hdtv's, awareness of the new formats are rising. Within the next 2-3 yrs, most homes will have an hdtv in them. And they will be interested in the new formats just as all of us that currently have hdtv's are interested.... Dvd's just don't look that good on an hdtv and we didn't buy tv's that produce better sound and picture quality so that we could watch inferior versions of movies. Neither will the general public that is adopting hdtv's at a large pace already.Sgt_Hale
Just how long do you think it took DVD to become the commen household player in America over VHS? Incase you don't know, it just happened within the past year. DVD'd look great on HD tv's, Blu-ray and HD-dvd don't look that much better.
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[QUOTE="Sgt_Hale"]Incorrect. A lot of movie/video enthusiasts are excited about blu ray/hd-dvd. No, there are not a lot of average ppl that are familuar with the formats. But as more ppl adobt hdtv's, awareness of the new formats are rising. Within the next 2-3 yrs, most homes will have an hdtv in them. And they will be interested in the new formats just as all of us that currently have hdtv's are interested.... Dvd's just don't look that good on an hdtv and we didn't buy tv's that produce better sound and picture quality so that we could watch inferior versions of movies. Neither will the general public that is adopting hdtv's at a large pace already.air0123
Just how long do you think it took DVD to become the commen household player in America over VHS? Incase you don't know, it just happened within the past year. DVD'd look great on HD tv's, Blu-ray and HD-dvd don't look that much better.

he's a cow...

his answer will be "when the ps2 launched.  it singlehandidly brought dvd into households"... :roll:

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remember when DVD audio was supposed to be the next gen audio media after cd's? I wouldn't be surprised if hd dvd and bluray end up just like that. digital on demand will probably take off sooner than bluray can over take dvd.
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[QUOTE="Sgt_Hale"]Incorrect. A lot of movie/video enthusiasts are excited about blu ray/hd-dvd. No, there are not a lot of average ppl that are familuar with the formats. But as more ppl adobt hdtv's, awareness of the new formats are rising. Within the next 2-3 yrs, most homes will have an hdtv in them. And they will be interested in the new formats just as all of us that currently have hdtv's are interested.... Dvd's just don't look that good on an hdtv and we didn't buy tv's that produce better sound and picture quality so that we could watch inferior versions of movies. Neither will the general public that is adopting hdtv's at a large pace already.air0123
Just how long do you think it took DVD to become the commen household player in America over VHS? Incase you don't know, it just happened within the past year. DVD'd look great on HD tv's, Blu-ray and HD-dvd don't look that much better.

I think dvd's only over took vhs in 2003. this was after 6 years. that's a console gen.
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[QUOTE="air0123"][QUOTE="Sgt_Hale"]Incorrect. A lot of movie/video enthusiasts are excited about blu ray/hd-dvd. No, there are not a lot of average ppl that are familuar with the formats. But as more ppl adobt hdtv's, awareness of the new formats are rising. Within the next 2-3 yrs, most homes will have an hdtv in them. And they will be interested in the new formats just as all of us that currently have hdtv's are interested.... Dvd's just don't look that good on an hdtv and we didn't buy tv's that produce better sound and picture quality so that we could watch inferior versions of movies. Neither will the general public that is adopting hdtv's at a large pace already.Ontain
Just how long do you think it took DVD to become the commen household player in America over VHS? Incase you don't know, it just happened within the past year. DVD'd look great on HD tv's, Blu-ray and HD-dvd don't look that much better.

I think dvd's only over took vhs in 2003. this was after 6 years. that's a console gen.

No, VHS players are still in something like 70% of houeholds, and just within the last year did DVD players surpass that.
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I don't even think gamers give a crap. It's basically just fanboys grasping at straws that care about it.
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Everyone I talk to in school and out dont have a clue what HD-DVD and Blue Ray is.  My point is that the majority of people out there now, have no idea what these new formats are and what they are about.  Many people dont even have the right facts about these new formats.  My one friend told me that the PS3 was better because it has Blue Ray and therefore it has better graphics.  I told him this is not true what so ever.  My prediction on this whole format war is that neither will be the standard for at least 5 years if not more.  And yes im sure you've heard this many times but its truth because simply the majority of people out there do not know much about these new formats.  Maybe its just my area, i dont know but to me everyone seems fine with DVD.  cmw3218

Not true,

The only ones that care about the format war are Cows,

Because if Blu-Ray fails, the PS3 fails.

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Heres the link.

http://www.nielsenmedia.com/nc/portal/site/Public/menuitem.55dc65b4a7d5adff3f65936147a062a0/?vgnextoid=4673a1bcb279f010VgnVCM100000ac0a260aRCRD

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Everyone I talk to in school and out dont have a clue what HD-DVD and Blue Ray is.  My point is that the majority of people out there now, have no idea what these new formats are and what they are about.  Many people dont even have the right facts about these new formats.  My one friend told me that the PS3 was better because it has Blue Ray and therefore it has better graphics.  I told him this is not true what so ever.  My prediction on this whole format war is that neither will be the standard for at least 5 years if not more.  And yes im sure you've heard this many times but its truth because simply the majority of people out there do not know much about these new formats.  Maybe its just my area, i dont know but to me everyone seems fine with DVD.  cmw3218

So because you know somebody stupid when it comes to BR and the PS3, that somehow means that NOBODY is interested in HD-DVD/BR when it comes to its primary purpose of playing movies?

What? 

You are saying that only GAMERS care about a new disk format which is mainly intended for movies based on forums and casual gamer knowldge?

WHAT?

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I didn't buy a 56" 1080p set just so I could watch DVD's with trashy picture.
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[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="air0123"][QUOTE="Sgt_Hale"]Incorrect. A lot of movie/video enthusiasts are excited about blu ray/hd-dvd. No, there are not a lot of average ppl that are familuar with the formats. But as more ppl adobt hdtv's, awareness of the new formats are rising. Within the next 2-3 yrs, most homes will have an hdtv in them. And they will be interested in the new formats just as all of us that currently have hdtv's are interested.... Dvd's just don't look that good on an hdtv and we didn't buy tv's that produce better sound and picture quality so that we could watch inferior versions of movies. Neither will the general public that is adopting hdtv's at a large pace already.air0123
Just how long do you think it took DVD to become the commen household player in America over VHS? Incase you don't know, it just happened within the past year. DVD'd look great on HD tv's, Blu-ray and HD-dvd don't look that much better.

I think dvd's only over took vhs in 2003. this was after 6 years. that's a console gen.

No, VHS players are still in something like 70% of houeholds, and just within the last year did DVD players surpass that.

2003 was went the rentals of dvd out did vhs. that's pretty much when dvd became king.
just having a vcr doesn't mean you are buying new things for it. many might be like me. I only have a vcr to record a show (rarely) or play a vhs that someone might still have.

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Everyone I talk to in school and out dont have a clue what HD-DVD and Blue Ray is.  My point is that the majority of people out there now, have no idea what these new formats are and what they are about.  Many people dont even have the right facts about these new formats.  My one friend told me that the PS3 was better because it has Blue Ray and therefore it has better graphics.  I told him this is not true what so ever.  My prediction on this whole format war is that neither will be the standard for at least 5 years if not more.  And yes im sure you've heard this many times but its truth because simply the majority of people out there do not know much about these new formats.  Maybe its just my area, i dont know but to me everyone seems fine with DVD.  cmw3218
It's worse than that, every person I've talked to except 1 (who was buying an HDTV) at BB or Circuit City, met me with a blank stare when I asked what kind of HD content they intended on displaying-------most people seem to think that using a HDTV somehow "makes" regular cable/DVD into high definition. I'd be willing to bet that well over 1/2 of all HDTV users feed their sets nothing but SD signals/DVDs.
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My Dad came in the other day and asked me what Blu-Ray was.... so, no.
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i can relate to the same thing as the tc. all around people arent happy about the hdtv stuff most people wont even have one cause they dont understand them. all my cousins all those types of peeps dont even know you can rund a blu ray on a regular tv. its crazy and im only buying a small hdtv for my ps3.
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[QUOTE="cmw3218"]Everyone I talk to in school and out dont have a clue what HD-DVD and Blue Ray is. My point is that the majority of people out there now, have no idea what these new formats are and what they are about. Many people dont even have the right facts about these new formats. My one friend told me that the PS3 was better because it has Blue Ray and therefore it has better graphics. I told him this is not true what so ever. My prediction on this whole format war is that neither will be the standard for at least 5 years if not more. And yes im sure you've heard this many times but its truth because simply the majority of people out there do not know much about these new formats. Maybe its just my area, i dont know but to me everyone seems fine with DVD. ZIMdoom

So because you know somebody stupid when it comes to BR and the PS3, that somehow means that NOBODY is interested in HD-DVD/BR when it comes to its primary purpose of playing movies?

What?

You are saying that only GAMERS care about a new disk format which is mainly intended for movies based on forums and casual gamer knowldge?

WHAT?

no im saying in general i was jsut giving an example,
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[QUOTE="cmw3218"]Everyone I talk to in school and out dont have a clue what HD-DVD and Blue Ray is. My point is that the majority of people out there now, have no idea what these new formats are and what they are about. Many people dont even have the right facts about these new formats. My one friend told me that the PS3 was better because it has Blue Ray and therefore it has better graphics. I told him this is not true what so ever. My prediction on this whole format war is that neither will be the standard for at least 5 years if not more. And yes im sure you've heard this many times but its truth because simply the majority of people out there do not know much about these new formats. Maybe its just my area, i dont know but to me everyone seems fine with DVD. Tony_aaaa
It's worse than that, every person I've talked to except 1 (who was buying an HDTV) at BB or Circuit City, met me with a blank stare when I asked what kind of HD content they intended on displaying-------most people seem to think that using a HDTV somehow "makes" regular cable/DVD into high definition. I'd be willing to bet that well over 1/2 of all HDTV users feed their sets nothing but SD signals/DVDs.

thats VERY true, when i go to peoples houses most who have HDTV just have regular cable, and the people that have HD its probly cause the cable company said they need it to make money
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Heres the link.

http://www.nielsenmedia.com/nc/portal/site/Public/menuitem.55dc65b4a7d5adff3f65936147a062a0/?vgnextoid=4673a1bcb279f010VgnVCM100000ac0a260aRCRD

air0123
I wonder what the sale numbers were like though. I still have a VCR in my house but when was the last time I used it? Maybe twice over the past year just for old family videos. DVD might have just gotten slightly more market penetration than the VCR but it was probably killing it in sales for 3-4 years before that.