Games praised for something they didn't invented

I was just looking at Singularity trailers and some of the comments really got on my nerve.

Not for that game in particular, more like Halo, why does these days Halo is trowed at my face in every article i read?

Lets start with particle examples, people talk so much about Halo (Sep 30, 2003), how innovative it was because you could only carry 2 different weapons opposing to everything else before... The Getaway (Jan 19, 2003) you could only carry 2 different types of weapons and this is just a game that i actually own and know, i'm sure there are more even before that.

Another thing that annoyed me was the cover system like Gears of War,again The Getaway had a cover system, duck and cover, shot blind, jump outta cover to aim, jump from one cover to the other.

Why are people so easy to forget and praise games for something they never invented? Really with the new Halo coming out i just feel like killing someone, the game is just like star wars, people buy it no matter what, look at Halo 3 and how ridiculous the sales are, Bungie never tried to produce what Microsoft promised, they just did something and even used code from Halo 2 (why you think you only have 16 players?) and then we have excuses for everything, this excuses that, that excuses this.

Now bring the hate for me trying to bring down your precious Halohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLlR7p7OJt0
And pretty please, if you remember an even older game than Getaway, please post, or give your own example of something a resent mainstream game has the credit for that you seen years ago been done.

EDIT: i say here Halo was released in when inSep 30, 2003fact isNov 14, 2001, i got the PC date, so I'm sorry, not like you werent gonna hate me anyway...

Games that get credit for something usually get it for being the ones that popularized it/perfected it.

Don't kwow about Halo, but it was Gears the game that made the cover system popular this gen, despite it not being the one that invented it.

Just saying man, Halo:CE came out two years before The Getaway. So maybe the Getaway "copied" Halo :|

I was just looking at Singularity trailers and some of the comments really got on my nerve.

Not for that game in particular, more like Halo, why does these days Halo is trowed at my face in every article i read?

Lets start with particle examples, people talk so much about Halo (Sep 30, 2003), how innovative it was because you could only carry 2 different weapons opposing to everything else before... The Getaway (Jan 19, 2003) you could only carry 2 different types of weapons and this is just a game that i actually own and know, i'm sure there are more even before that.

Another thing that annoyed me was the cover system like Gears of War,again The Getaway had a cover system, duck and cover, shot blind, jump outta cover to aim, jump from one cover to the other.

Why are people so easy to forget and praise games for something they never invented? Really with the new Halo coming out i just feel like killing someone, the game is just like star wars, people buy it no matter what, look at Halo 3 and how ridiculous the sales are, Bungie never tried to produce what Microsoft promised, they just did something and even used code from Halo 2 (why you think you only have 16 players?) and then we have excuses for everything, this excuses that, that excuses this.

Now bring the hate for me trying to bring down your precious Halohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLlR7p7OJt0
And pretty please, if you remember an even older game than Getaway, please post, or give your own example of something a resent mainstream game has the credit for that you seen years ago been done.

Kane04

Yeah, Iknow an older game than the Getaway, Halo.

Halo:CE was released in 2001.

So, Kthanxbai.

Halo was 2001,

but on the subject, people praise Halo for making regenerative shields, but i think someone else before did it.

Now obviously you have never played Halo and are probably a Call of Duty fan, but Halo 3 is the best console shooter this gen everything about it is godly.

The gameplay is nothing skill based, but the weapons are for the most part pretty balanced and the gameplay is skill based (no killstreak crap like COD).dkjestrup

The gameplay is nothing skill based, but the weapons are for the most part pretty balanced and the gameplay is skill based.dkjestrup

The gameplay is nothing skill based... and the gameplay is skill based.dkjestrup

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Games that get credit for something usually get it for being the ones that popularized it/perfected it.(...)

IronBass

(...)Now obviously you have never played Halo and are probably a Call of Duty fan(..)

scottiescott238

Games that get credit for something usually get it for being the ones that popularized it/perfected it.

Don't kwow about Halo, but it was Gears the game that made the cover system popular this gen, despite it not being the one that invented it.

IronBass

this is true

Metal Gear for stealth. AAllxxjjnn

[QUOTE="scottiescott238"]

(...)Now obviously you have never played Halo and are probably a Call of Duty fan(..)

Kane04

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Metal Gear for stealth. 110million

So you haven't played Halo 3 , yet you feel you are qualified to criticize it ?scottiescott238

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Metal Gear for stealth. 110million

Now obviously you have never played Halo and are probably a Call of Duty fanscottiescott238

A Halo elitist? On MY System Wars?

[QUOTE="110million"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Metal Gear for stealth. AAllxxjjnn

[QUOTE="scottiescott238"]So you haven't played Halo 3 , yet you feel you are qualified to criticize it ?Kane04

[QUOTE="scottiescott238"]Now obviously you have never played Halo and are probably a Call of Duty fanDraugenCP

A Halo elitist? On MY System Wars?

[QUOTE="Kane04"][QUOTE="scottiescott238"]So you haven't played Halo 3 , yet you feel you are qualified to criticize it ?scottiescott238

Gears and the cover system. It didnt invent it, just made it pretty fun to use

Barely any games that invented a certain mechanic ever get praised. The ones that do just take older ideas and expand on them. The most influential games are rarely innovative at all.

Barely any games that invented a certain mechanic ever get praised. The ones that do just take older ideas and expand on them. The most influential games are rarely innovative at all.

AdrianWerner

BioShock invented audio logs, spells in a FPS, ghosts, the 1950s and art deco.

Also Fallout 3 is the first Fallout and invented postapocalyptic gaming.

Half-Life 2 invented gravity manipulation.

Portal invented portals.

Every game post-2008 is just like BioShock mixed with Fallout 3.

Most games that actually innovate something are never recognized for it... its always the games that popularize it. i.e. Doom, Halo, Gears of War, etc. Unfortunately, credit is often not given where credit is due.

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="110million"] What came before it? I never really thought about whether MG was first or not, just can't think of what came before it. 110million

actually in many ways Castle wolfenstein was more advanced then Metal gear

anyway here's a review

I was just looking at Singularity trailers and some of the comments really got on my nerve.

Not for that game in particular, more like Halo, why does these days Halo is trowed at my face in every article i read?

Lets start with particle examples, people talk so much about Halo (Sep 30, 2003), how innovative it was because you could only carry 2 different weapons opposing to everything else before... The Getaway (Jan 19, 2003) you could only carry 2 different types of weapons and this is just a game that i actually own and know, i'm sure there are more even before that.

Another thing that annoyed me was the cover system like Gears of War,again The Getaway had a cover system, duck and cover, shot blind, jump outta cover to aim, jump from one cover to the other.

Why are people so easy to forget and praise games for something they never invented? Really with the new Halo coming out i just feel like killing someone, the game is just like star wars, people buy it no matter what, look at Halo 3 and how ridiculous the sales are, Bungie never tried to produce what Microsoft promised, they just did something and even used code from Halo 2 (why you think you only have 16 players?) and then we have excuses for everything, this excuses that, that excuses this.

Now bring the hate for me trying to bring down your precious Halohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLlR7p7OJt0
And pretty please, if you remember an even older game than Getaway, please post, or give your own example of something a resent mainstream game has the credit for that you seen years ago been done.

EDIT: i say here Halo was released in when inSep 30, 2003fact isNov 14, 2001, i got the PC date, so I'm sorry, not like you werent gonna hate me anyway...

Kane04

This is why I despise Halo as a franchise. They are not bad games but many of their fanbase makes me want to go on a rampage because they are so uninformed.

[QUOTE="Kane04"]

I was just looking at Singularity trailers and some of the comments really got on my nerve.

Not for that game in particular, more like Halo, why does these days Halo is trowed at my face in every article i read?

Lets start with particle examples, people talk so much about Halo (Sep 30, 2003), how innovative it was because you could only carry 2 different weapons opposing to everything else before... The Getaway (Jan 19, 2003) you could only carry 2 different types of weapons and this is just a game that i actually own and know, i'm sure there are more even before that.

Another thing that annoyed me was the cover system like Gears of War,again The Getaway had a cover system, duck and cover, shot blind, jump outta cover to aim, jump from one cover to the other.

Why are people so easy to forget and praise games for something they never invented? Really with the new Halo coming out i just feel like killing someone, the game is just like star wars, people buy it no matter what, look at Halo 3 and how ridiculous the sales are, Bungie never tried to produce what Microsoft promised, they just did something and even used code from Halo 2 (why you think you only have 16 players?) and then we have excuses for everything, this excuses that, that excuses this.

Now bring the hate for me trying to bring down your precious Halohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLlR7p7OJt0
And pretty please, if you remember an even older game than Getaway, please post, or give your own example of something a resent mainstream game has the credit for that you seen years ago been done.

EDIT: i say here Halo was released in when inSep 30, 2003fact isNov 14, 2001, i got the PC date, so I'm sorry, not like you werent gonna hate me anyway...

PublicNuisance

This is why I despise Halo as a franchise. They are not bad games but many of their fanbase makes me want to go on a rampage because they are so uninformed.

this could be said for the fanbase of alot of console games (Metal Gear solid and Final Fantasy spring to mind)

I don't know.

sometimes I wonder why people are so quick to tear Halo apart. they added jetpacks and people were quick to cite other games that used jetpacks....I don't get it. did Bungie claim jetpacks were new and innovative:?

I don't know.

sometimes I wonder why people are so quick to tear Halo apart. they added jetpacks and people were quick to cite other games that used jetpacks....I don't get it. did Bungie claim jetpacks were new and innovative:?

faithnomor3

It's a serious double standard, and a real shame on the haters part.

Halo adds feature = "So, X game did this years ago, Halo is just a stupid "X - Knockoff"

Other game adds same feature = "Awesome, this really improves combat and makes it so much more innovative. Suck it Halo!"

:P

Well, one could argue that Killswitch was the first Gears on the PS2, complete with the cover mechanics, blind-fire and short length :P (but I doubt the media even knows this game exists). Still, it's not a bad thing...I'll gladly take Gears of War over Killswitch any day :D. DethSkematik