Games that exemplify "Good idea, poor execution".

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#1 nervmeister
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Which games do you think had some truly good innovative ideas but failed to implement them effectively and in a way that would provide the most fun for gamers? I think Prey is an excellent example of this tragedy. What about the rest of you?
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#2 thrones
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Lair. What could be better than controlling a giant dragon?

As it turns out, NOT controlling a giant dragon.

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#3 Shazenab
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Red Steel. They clearly tried using the wii remote and failed horribly.
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#4 mingo123
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sonic the hedgehog, could have been a great game if it wasnt so buggy
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#5 Lto_thaG
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Assassin's Creed.The ideas were all great,but not good enough to keep me interested :(
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#6 kayn83
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Turning Point: Fall of Liberty. Alternate history ftw... but a really crappy game.
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#7 him42
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Red Steel, Turning Point
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#8 Nike_Air
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Assassins Creed , LAIR , Mass Effect.

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#9 PBSnipes
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Deus Ex: Invisible War.
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#10 masori
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Army Of Two,Lair and Turning Point
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#11 the1stfandb
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Portal.......:twisted:

In the real world: AC and turning point

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indigo prophecy(Fahrenheit) was really great when you got to control the character and make alot of choices that all have some effect, but when it got to those button time sequences and especially the end the game kinda fell apart. lukily heavy rain looks to build upon the moral choices and making more personal rather than the clique of saving the world
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#13 haziqonfire
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Lair
Red Steel
Sonic the hedgehog
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Assassin's Creed and Lair
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Black and white. Tabula Rasa. Evolva. Imo.
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#17 darklord888
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As soon as I read it, Dead Rising came to mind. white_sox


Agreed. Killing zombies was really fun but the save system and how the story was done was shocking.
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#18 yellowandmushy
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Pokemon Colosseum. A cool 3D version of the handheld games right? No. Wtf is a shadow pokemon? :|
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#19 foxhound_fox
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  • Alpha Prime. Great and unique idea for a shooter that suffered from being poorly programmed and very poorly executed.
  • Star Wars: Episode I: The Phatom Menace ~ Another great idea that was hindered by its poor programming, porr camera angles and terrible polish.
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Turning Point.

I thought it would be Freedom Fighters with nazis, that would have been badass.

Turns out it was more like Big Rigs with nazis. :(

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#21 BobHipJames
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Everyone keeps saying Turning Point, when I knew right from the outset that game would be awful and unjustified based entirely on its premise alone.
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#22 T3H_1337_N1NJ4
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The one I'm playing now, it's ok as it is, but it could have been so much better...

The Experiment

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#23 Saturos3091
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Just Cause, but by no means was it bad. Need to make unique quests and fill the island with things to do. Good thing the developers have said that in JC2 you'll be able to do tons of stuff.

Assassin's Creed as well.
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Portal.......:twisted:

In the real world: AC and turning point

the1stfandb

Oh you did not go there.

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DRIV3R springs to mind. The game didn't look bad at all when it was first revealed. Previews had been generally positive, leading us to believe that Driver could win back the free-roaming throne from Grand Theft Auto. Instead, glitches, an insane difficulty curve, too many gameplay niggles, a bland plot, and even a delay turned potentially the best game of 2003 into arguably the worst game of 2004.

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#26 Private_Vegas
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Gun, Red Dead Revolver, and Call of Juarez. Westerns rule yet western games don't turn out to well. Red Dead Revolver was decent, but doesn't do the setting justice.
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Geist - possesing objects in game was pretty awesome, but the entire package did not meet the quality standards that Nintendo has set for itself. Now that Nintendo now owns N-Space, I would like to see what they are working on.

Lair - yea... you all know.

Red Steel - a launch title that ran out of development time. I wish they would have delayed it and spent more time in the R&D stage instead of rusing to get it together. Get ready for an improvement come Red Steel 2.

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#28 HeroOfCows
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Prey, I suppose, as well as the ones you guys have said.
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#29 -Jiggles-
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I'm surprised nobody said Perfect Dark Zero yet.

What wouldn't be more awesome than a sequal to one of the greatest FPS shooters on the last generation? We know how well that went, though.

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#30 deactivated-5967f36c08c33
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I'll echo the statements of other in this thread,and say Red Steel.
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#31 elbow2k
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Assassin's Creed

Oblivion :twisted:

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#32 Verge_6
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1) Lair: Rogue Squadron with dragons. Sounds like a good formula, right? Well, it could have been...had it retained a FIFTH of the fun the RS games gave us. Seriously, exploding dragons? ....WHY!?

2) Turning Point: Fall of Liberty: Alternate history game where the NAzis invade America. How could something THAT awesome go wrong? Oh, it can. And it can go wrong VERY badly. Horrid controls, hit-detection, sound, and visuals killed what could have been an awesome game

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SotC. Yes,you read that correctly; SotC. Great idea,but the main character's poor balance leads me to believe he's constantly wasted. :|

Also,they could have done a better job with the story.

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Blacksite.

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Hmm.. PS3? xD I'm kidding. This Simpson's game was kind of dissapointing.

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#36 Mordred19
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Killzone: pretty safe concept, except being too lofty for the PS2 (or, arguably, the developers), and being poorly optimized. It had good, interesting gameplay mechanics, with good shooting action, and a cool universe and visual style. the problem is that they didn't spend a few extra months working the bugs out of it.

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#37 Tykain
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Assassin's Creed
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#38 osan0
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Deus Ex: Invisible War. PBSnipes

if u want to see what IW should have been like, play the first one :P. it was a great idea, perfectly executed. for IW they just took those ideas...got an axe and started chopping. a very stupid move and ion storm paid dearly for it.

red steel comes to mind. the devs had alot of good ideas and u can see what they were trying to do. but it was rushed and the implementation of those ideas left alot to be desired (and there were the bugs). its a shame ubisoft wanted it as a launch title. i really hope they take a good crack at it again. the ideas certainly have alot of potential. with better, more complete, dev kits and more time to work on it, hopefully a RS2 can be the game that sees those ideas realised.

Two Worlds. this game is a complete mess...theres no getting around that really. but theres is a nugget of a good game in there....its just hampered by some very stupid decisions and a game that was clearly released in an unfinished state.

Vampire the masquerade bloodlines: could have been a deus ex beater but it was released in a broken state also and it was never ofically fixed (the dev went out of business).

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hands down Lair.
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#40 club-sandwich
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Turning Point.

I thought it would be Freedom Fighters with nazis, that would have been badass.

Turns out it was more like Big Rigs with nazis. :(

t3hTwinky
Yeah I agree, it made me so sad that the game sucked. ):
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Like somebody already said, Assassins Creed. More like Elliminators Creed.

Rainbow Six Vegas is the most irritating game for me in that sence. Twitchy AI, broken splitscreen, laggy online play.

GRAW for it's absolutely dissapointing gameplay, online mode that takes the graphics and cover system out, absolutely attrocious animation glitches.

Are we seeing a pattern there?

Mass Effect had a few issues like that... poor execution..... but it made up for it imo. Oblivions radiant AI.

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#42 leejohnson7
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[QUOTE="t3hTwinky"]

Turning Point.

I thought it would be Freedom Fighters with nazis, that would have been badass.

Turns out it was more like Big Rigs with nazis. :(

club-sandwich

Yeah I agree, it made me so sad that the game sucked. ):

I think there has been too many alternate histories with America winning the war all by them selves.

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#43 Demo6789
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I would have to say Turning Point, Turok, Lost Planet and most MMO's

P.S. I am loving Army of Two

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#44 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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Red steel, megaman ZX advent, and sonic and the secret rings all spring to mind.

good games regardless, but they could have been great.

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MLB 2K8, Turning Point, Kane and Lynch
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#46 Vexx88
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Red steel - If it had better controls it would have been fun.

Timeshift - ...you guys know the story behind that one.

Sonic the Hedgehog for the Xbox360/PS3 - Should have made it like Sonic Adventure 1 and it would have at least gotten 7's.

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#47 -HalleR-
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killzone 1.
yea, it flopped, but the idea was good ( for a shooter, of course)
and this is why they are making a 2nd one, in hopes of bringing the game to the same level as the story.
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Advent Rising.
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#50 akif22
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Assassin's Creed.The ideas were all great,but not good enough to keep me interested :(Lto_thaG

exactly what i was thinking

the game could have been so much better .. i'm glad it did well though, so the sequel can make use of all that potential