Games this gen dissapoint me...

Super Mario Galaxy, Little Kings Story, Killzone 2

Wow even crysis did'nt impressed you.

Everything you have said exists in the game called "The REAL World" it is probably the one you are looking for.

seriously, i expected dynamic clothing, extremely real acting physics, subsurface scattering, the works. I thought crysis on very high was gonna be the norm for games this gen, but no, consoles cant even reach that far :( i hope next gen, consoles are made so they at least last 3 years before a pc dominates them. and yes i strongly support consoles being able to be modified with add ons. remember the expansion pack for the n64? with the extra vid ram, i wouldent mind something like that at all. and the "real-time" gameplay footage shown by so many game companies werent even close to what crap we got sometime. and why arnt games 60fps, i mean when i play a game and for some reason, may it be for the character being in a tight corridor, the gameplay feels so smooth. like cod4, i though most games were gonna be made in 60fps, i was wrong :( and those people who prefer 30fps are just fanboys who dont wanna admit what consoles cant do. and as for pc, its not even worth it to get a good graphics card these days, nvidia keeps churning card ever month and dx11 is coming out soon and not alottta hott pc games besides crysis are really worth upgrading my olg gt7600 for. heres hoping for cg like graphics next gen and awesome gameplay too with completely real acting people and environments. gregelbunnyman

just stop gaming, it clearly is not a thing for you... suggest you find other things to spent your freetime on..

I care about gameplay. Realism needs to stay in real life.sonicthemegaman

couldn't agree more. gameplay is why I buy games, not graphics. I love how these graphics freaks can't enjoy a game if it doesn't look amazing. truly missing out on some awesome games.

u act like gaming is a sport, i dont "game", i play video games when i have time too :P and ive been playing games a long time.... sony promised 120fps at one point and gameplay renders ive never seen, so blame them and all the other game companies that make target renders that dont come close to what comes out. gregelbunnyman

A large part of why those things are rare, is "production costs" if you wanted games to push the limits, you would pretty much see a 110$ pricetag on games, not to mention the extra year or two to implement it.

Also, the hardware is NOT as powerful as people seem to belive, Granted Crysis can be playied quite well, on any modern pc, and a great deal of "gamer" pcs can max it (or near max if a few years old). Still it is not able to check off all the things on your list.

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"]I care about gameplay. Realism needs to stay in real life.Some-Mist

couldn't agree more. gameplay is why I buy games, not graphics. I love how these graphics freaks can't enjoy a game if it doesn't look amazing. truly missing out on some awesome games.

I agree that games graphically are quite disappointing this gen. I wasn't expecting Crysis to be the norm this gen but I was expecting signicantly better graphics than last gen. As it is alot of games don't look that much better than games like Doom 3, Shadow of the Colossus, Half-Life 2, Call of Duty 2 and Halo 2.vashkey

[QUOTE="vashkey"]I agree that games graphically are quite disappointing this gen. I wasn't expecting Crysis to be the norm this gen but I was expecting signicantly better graphics than last gen. As it is alot of games don't look that much better than games like Doom 3, Shadow of the Colossus, Half-Life 2, Call of Duty 2 and Halo 2.-Snooze-

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"]I care about gameplay. Realism needs to stay in real life.Some-Mist

couldn't agree more. gameplay is why I buy games, not graphics. I love how these graphics freaks can't enjoy a game if it doesn't look amazing. truly missing out on some awesome games.

im having fun gaming this gen theres CoD4, LBP, Valkryia chronicles, MGS4, Killzone2, InFamous soon, Ragdollkungfu free giveaway and Tekken5 shared for FREE thanks to my brother who purchased the game. i still gota buy Resistance2 also, me = busy wid ma gamez :D

[QUOTE="Some-Mist"]

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"]I care about gameplay. Realism needs to stay in real life.W1ckedGo0se

couldn't agree more. gameplay is why I buy games, not graphics. I love how these graphics freaks can't enjoy a game if it doesn't look amazing. truly missing out on some awesome games.

I dunno, I find it hard to agree. My example being, I bought ff7 this year, and played it constantly beating it within 2 weeks. Same goes for chrono trigger, and I just started chrono cross recently. I just bought cross edge and although the graphics aren't great, the gameplay is amazing. I can see how graphics can hold a gamer in and help them put more hours into a game, I'm just not one of those kind of players (and I only own a ps3, not a wii or 360).

I am, however, pumped for heavy rain and I do like awesome graphics, but that doesn't make me want a game. Killzone 2 (to me) looks like a generic fps, and since I don't really like first person shooters on consoles, I'm not going to buy the game just because it's claimed to be the "graphics king". I think this problem is due to last generation when 3d gaming was introduced, people have been wanting better and better graphics.

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"][QUOTE="vashkey"]I agree that games graphically are quite disappointing this gen. I wasn't expecting Crysis to be the norm this gen but I was expecting signicantly better graphics than last gen. As it is alot of games don't look that much better than games like Doom 3, Shadow of the Colossus, Half-Life 2, Call of Duty 2 and Halo 2.vashkey

But really people, if you don't want better graphics what the hell is the point of buying new console. If you're fine with game looking look crap pick up a NES and buy some game. I'm sure you haven't everything on the platform.vashkey

[QUOTE="vashkey"]But really people, if you don't want better graphics what the hell is the point of buying new console. If you're fine with game looking look crap pick up a NES and buy some game. I'm sure you haven't everything on the platform.Generalmojo

[QUOTE="Generalmojo"]

[QUOTE="vashkey"]But really people, if you don't want better graphics what the hell is the point of buying new console. If you're fine with game looking look crap pick up a NES and buy some game. I'm sure you haven't everything on the platform.-Snooze-

Whatever happened to experiencing realism in real-life and enjoying the fantasy of video games?

seriously, i expected dynamic clothing, extremely real acting physics, subsurface scattering, the works. I thought crysis on very high was gonna be the norm for games this gen, but no, consoles cant even reach that far :( i hope next gen, consoles are made so they at least last 3 years before a pc dominates them. and yes i strongly support consoles being able to be modified with add ons. remember the expansion pack for the n64? with the extra vid ram, i wouldent mind something like that at all. and the "real-time" gameplay footage shown by so many game companies werent even close to what crap we got sometime. and why arnt games 60fps, i mean when i play a game and for some reason, may it be for the character being in a tight corridor, the gameplay feels so smooth. like cod4, i though most games were gonna be made in 60fps, i was wrong :( and those people who prefer 30fps are just fanboys who dont wanna admit what consoles cant do. and as for pc, its not even worth it to get a good graphics card these days, nvidia keeps churning card ever month and dx11 is coming out soon and not alottta hott pc games besides crysis are really worth upgrading my olg gt7600 for. heres hoping for cg like graphics next gen and awesome gameplay too with completely real acting people and environments. gregelbunnyman

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"][QUOTE="Generalmojo"] Blu Ray, Mgs4, GT5 :P

Generalmojo

Blu-Ray has nothing to do with MGS4's graphics. Fact.

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"][QUOTE="Generalmojo"] Blu Ray, Mgs4, GT5 :P

I think the jump was a little less dramatic then the last generational jump but it's still pretty damn significant especially if you have an HDTV and a nice surround sound system. Games like Uncharted, Assassin's Creed, Resident Evil 5, Bioshock, and Fallout 3 all made my jaws drop at times. Hell if anything, I find it amazing that this gen still amazes me at times and we're already over 3 years into it. With Uncharted 2 and Heavy Rain right around the corner I think there are still more jaw-dropping moments on the way.

[QUOTE="Generalmojo"]

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"] Was the question : Games with mostly lackluster graphics? I don't see what Blu-Ray has to do with it though :\-Snooze-

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"][QUOTE="Generalmojo"]GT5, MGS4 lackluster graphics? no lackluster graphics will be those on your now playing list, and mgs4 = blu ray mate, without it, the game wont be possible.

Episode_Eve

No one is claiming it's not a good addition to gaming. Your fanboy friend, who since is arguing for your console you refuse to directly disagree with is claiming it's essential to MGS4, which it is not. As for MGS, most of the game looks average, with some truley outstanding parts.

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"][QUOTE="Generalmojo"]GT5, MGS4 lackluster graphics? no lackluster graphics will be those on your now playing list, and mgs4 = blu ray mate, without it, the game wont be possible.

Episode_Eve

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="-Snooze-"] Those games you picked were very poor choices. 90% of GT is made up of terrible scenery, 2d in most cases. MGS4 has some of the worst backgrounds too. Especially texture wise. MGS4 not possible without Blu-ray? If i already didn't know you were under 18 this would have told me ... Blu-Ray is nothing special. Neither is MGS, it's just a game. It would be possible with, or without blu-ray and teh cellll!!!1111eleven!-Snooze-

No one is claiming it's not a good addition to gaming. Your fanboy friend, who since is arguing for your console you refuse to directly disagree with is claiming it's essential to MGS4, which it is not. As for MGS, most of the game looks average, with some truley outstanding parts.

BTW, you said "Blu-Ray is nothing special" in the post I quoted. Which could imply to any reader that you're claiming its not a good addition to gaming. But since we both agree and it's clear. All good.

EDIT: I just realized you typed "who is arguing for your console". Yeah, one of mine since I own all systems. Your's as well.

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

It's hard to deny that BR is a benefit to game development though. Aside from graphics, there's lossless audio, along with sheer amount content on the disc. MGS4 is possible of course on DVD 9, but Kojima wouldn't want it any other way. BTW, the majority of textures in MGS4 are high-res. The diversity in their artistry is spectacular too :). If you want to cite the impact of graphics package and amount of content, just look at Rage. BR is a great aide to id in that regard.Episode_Eve

No one is claiming it's not a good addition to gaming. Your fanboy friend, who since is arguing for your console you refuse to directly disagree with is claiming it's essential to MGS4, which it is not. As for MGS, most of the game looks average, with some truley outstanding parts.

BTW, you said "Blu-Ray is nothing special" in the post I quoted. Which could imply to any reader that you're claiming its not a good addition to gaming. But since we both agree and it's clear. All good.

EDIT: I just realized you typed "who is arguing for your console". Yeah, one of mine since I own all systems. Your's as well.

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

No one is claiming it's not a good addition to gaming. Your fanboy friend, who since is arguing for your console you refuse to directly disagree with is claiming it's essential to MGS4, which it is not. As for MGS, most of the game looks average, with some truley outstanding parts.

BTW, you said "Blu-Ray is nothing special" in the post I quoted. Which could imply to any reader that you're claiming its not a good addition to gaming. But since we both agree and it's clear. All good.

EDIT: I just realized you typed "who is arguing for your console". Yeah, one of mine since I own all systems. Your's as well.

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"][QUOTE="Episode_Eve"] Huh? I disagreed by stating that MGS4 is possible on DVD 9 lol. But you know, considering MGS4 is only on PS3 (for various reasons), BR has been "essential" to it's design and development. That's a fact going by Kojima's word and the process itself.

BTW, you said "Blu-Ray is nothing special" in the post I quoted. Which could imply to any reader that you're claiming its not a good addition to gaming. But since we both agree and it's clear. All good.

EDIT: I just realized you typed "who is arguing for your console". Yeah, one of mine since I own all systems. Your's as well.

Episode_Eve

I've been a member far longer then that, and i responded to his post far after it was made, if you had any intention to correct it, you would have.

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="-Snooze-"] I also said "directly" You disagreed with him through my post, you didn't quote and correct him. Kojima also said it WAS possible on the Xbox360 ... despite them also saying it;s essential ... PR is funny eh? By "your console" i mean your prefered console. Your bias towards the PS3 is rather evident,-Snooze-

I've been a member far longer then that, and i responded to his post far after it was made, if you had any intention to correct it, you would have.

I didn't see the point in quoting him when I could quote you (who quoted him) and knock out two birds with one stone. As for me being "biased" to the PS3. How long have you been a member of GS following my posts? Since March 09? There are definite preferences but I give all consoles unbiased commentary and play time. Recently though, I've been enjoying what Sony has been offering more. And I'm vocal about what I enjoy.Episode_Eve

I've been a member far longer then that, and i responded to his post far after it was made, if you had any intention to correct it, you would have.

Whatever happened to experiencing realism in real-life and enjoying the fantasy of video games?

Nokanhav

Bingo, you win the prize.

PC's will always be ahead of the game, as they aren't stuck with console designs that only change every 5+ years and then remain fixed. Nevermind most gaming PC's cost more than consoles. Unless you want to increase development times and costs [and thus game price goes up, significantly] ... it's only a step better.

`Suspension of belief' is important to gaming, always has been, always will be. Unless we want this as a hobby only afforded by people with rich parents or far too much discretionary income ... we can expect incremental change.

This generation has had incremental change, things do look better. The difference from a Wii to a PS3/360 are obvious in HD - no one would argue this - and similarly are a step above last gen.

Perhaps it would be best just to find another hobby for a while ....

Super Mario Galaxy, Little Kings Story, Killzone 2 all suck

SeanDiff