Games this gen hold your hand to the finish line.

I couldn't care less.
When I was younger I would've probably cared that a game was too easy.Not anymore.

Are we playing different games? I don't feel like games have gotten a lot easier this gen as much as they've gotten less frustrating and a lot more enjoyable.

Play Dwarf Fortress. Or Aurora.

Those games dont hold your hand.

Yeah a lot of recent games hold your hand, but making a game harder than the norm should not make it GOTY.

Since when was Oot hard? HoolaHoopMan

When you're 12 and games are much harder than they are when you're in your 20s.

I couldn't care less.
When I was younger I would've probably cared that a game was too easy.Not anymore.

freedomfreak

Huh? OoT was hard?

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I couldn't care less.
When I was younger I would've probably cared that a game was too easy.Not anymore.

Firstinstimct

The ps2 is ugly. Especially the fat one. :P

BF3's SP campaign is a good example.

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I couldn't care less.
When I was younger I would've probably cared that a game was too easy.Not anymore.

Firstinstimct

I agree. Last gen games stayed challenging and difficult and many games still had difficulty levels. Super Mario Galaxy may be the easiest game I have ever played in my entire life. Some developers act like gamers are idiots, you don't need to tell us how to do everything we can figure it out ourselves.

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I couldn't care less.
When I was younger I would've probably cared that a game was too easy.Not anymore.

Firstinstimct

But the PS2 is ugly.

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I couldn't care less.
When I was younger I would've probably cared that a game was too easy.Not anymore.

Phoenix534

But the PS2 is ugly.

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[QUOTE="Firstinstimct"] Hey your the guy who said the ps2 was ugly, you have zero credibility to me.Firstinstimct

But the PS2 is ugly.

I don't even have an Xbox...

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I couldn't care less.
When I was younger I would've probably cared that a game was too easy.Not anymore.

Phoenix534

But the PS2 is ugly.

or how about the Alien Ware model computers that scream "Im a virgin".

I agree. Last gen games stayed challenging and difficult and many games still had difficulty levels. Super Mario Galaxy may be the easiest game I have ever played in my entire life. Some developers act like gamers are idiots, you don't need to tell us how to do everything we can figure it out ourselves.

Jolt_counter119

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[QUOTE="Firstinstimct"] Hey your the guy who said the ps2 was ugly, you have zero credibility to me.rasengan2552

But the PS2 is ugly.

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[QUOTE="Firstinstimct"] Hey your the guy who said the ps2 was ugly, you have zero credibility to me.rasengan2552

But the PS2 is ugly.

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But the PS2 is ugly.vashkey

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[QUOTE="Firstinstimct"] Hey your the guy who said the ps2 was ugly, you have zero credibility to me.rasengan2552

But the PS2 is ugly.

or how about the Alien Ware model computers that scream "Im a virgin".

All 3 Xbox models are ugly as well, as are the majority of video game systems.

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But the PS2 is ugly.Phoenix534

or how about the Alien Ware model computers that scream "Im a virgin".

All 3 Xbox models are ugly as well, as are the majority of video game systems.

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[QUOTE="rasengan2552"] if the PS2 is ugly I would hate to hear your opinion on the rear-end job which is the xbox, that looks like a air humidifier.

or how about the Alien Ware model computers that scream "Im a virgin".

rasengan2552

All 3 Xbox models are ugly as well, as are the majority of video game systems.

The Wii I like. The PS3, it isn't horrible but I don't think it's great. I do think it's better than the original PS3.

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All 3 Xbox models are ugly as well, as are the majority of video game systems.

Phoenix534

The Wii I like. The PS3, it isn't horrible but I don't think it's great. I do think it's better than the original PS3.

Games this gen are so freaking easy that its not fun or challenging anymore, you die 1 time or get stuck for an extra 5 seconds and a popup message comes up telling you what to do and where to go.... Which is why Dark Souls deserves goty. Its an ode to past gens when you had to actually use your brain, remember how hard zelda OoT was? Remember MGS1 where you had to switch your memory card to slot 2 so mantis wont read your mind? That part took me so long to figure out and was alot more rewarding when i did.Firstinstimct

You switched the controller, not the memory card. Just thought I'd point that out.

And OoT is a pretty easy game, FYI. It only seemed hard because everyone was a lot younger when it first came out.

Games this gen are so freaking easy that its not fun or challenging anymore, you die 1 time or get stuck for an extra 5 seconds and a popup message comes up telling you what to do and where to go.... Which is why Dark Souls deserves goty. Its an ode to past gens when you had to actually use your brain, remember how hard zelda OoT was? Remember MGS1 where you had to switch your memory card to slot 2 so mantis wont read your mind? That part took me so long to figure out and was alot more rewarding when i did.Firstinstimct

I've been gaming since home consoles were first invented and I get just as much enjoyment today as I did back in the days of playing for points, or super hard games like the original zelda.

While I am inclined to agree somewhat, games now are definitely easier, I also think the focus of what gamers WANT has shifted. Back in the early 80s, consoles just couldn't do much. Neither could arcades for the most part. That is why it was all about playing for points.

But NOW, consoles rival the movie industry and offer a comparable cinematic and immersive experience. You aren't just playing games to get a high score anymore, you are playing to get an experience. People expect a story, characters they can relate to, more choice. For those who only care about "winning" or racking up a high score, there is now online multiplayer that people can spend HOURS on over and above the single player narrative.

Sure, games are easier, but there is also so much more to experience. And for the most part, people don't want to get stuck in a spot for hours when their end goal is to keep the story moving. I would also argue that the largest market for gaming is now adults. Chances are working adults have much less time than kids did in the 80s to play for hours. I know I have little to no patience now for getting stuck in a game. I have limited time and a backlog of games I want to play. I just don't have time to grind, or play trial and error to slowly progress through the game. Now I care way more about the experience and entertainment value the game provides.

I couldn't care less.
When I was younger I would've probably cared that a game was too easy.Not anymore.

freedomfreak

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I couldn't care less.
When I was younger I would've probably cared that a game was too easy.Not anymore.

KungfuKitten

If I have to hear another one of the "Dark Souls is so much better than other games cause you die alot!!!" opinions I am going to go crazy. Most games are challenging enough. Yes some walk you through it. I dont notice much of a difference this gen then I did last gen, or the gen before that. Seems like a lot of people here have this attitude, and yet one of the games that does the most hand holding, is regarded by many here as better than Zelda (Okami).

Games this gen are so freaking easy that its not fun or challenging anymore, you die 1 time or get stuck for an extra 5 seconds and a popup message comes up telling you what to do and where to go.... Which is why Dark Souls deserves goty. Its an ode to past gens when you had to actually use your brain, remember how hard zelda OoT was? Remember MGS1 where you had to switch your memory card to slot 2 so mantis wont read your mind? That part took me so long to figure out and was alot more rewarding when i did.Firstinstimct

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I couldn't care less.
When I was younger I would've probably cared that a game was too easy.Not anymore.

agpickle

The ps2 is ugly. Especially the fat one. :P

If I have to hear another one of the "Dark Souls is so much better than other games cause you die alot!!!" opinions I am going to go crazy. Most games are challenging enough. Yes some walk you through it. I dont notice much of a difference this gen then I did last gen, or the gen before that. Seems like a lot of people here have this attitude, and yet one of the games that does the most hand holding, is regarded by many here as better than Zelda (Okami).

NaveedLife

Games this gen are so freaking easy that its not fun or challenging anymore, you die 1 time or get stuck for an extra 5 seconds and a popup message comes up telling you what to do and where to go.... Which is why Dark Souls deserves goty. Its an ode to past gens when you had to actually use your brain, remember how hard zelda OoT was? Remember MGS1 where you had to switch your memory card to slot 2 so mantis wont read your mind? That part took me so long to figure out and was alot more rewarding when i did.Firstinstimct

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[QUOTE="Firstinstimct"] Hey your the guy who said the ps2 was ugly, you have zero credibility to me.mems_1224

The ps2 is ugly. Especially the fat one. :P

The black Gamecube was sexy. And it had a handle! That's awesome!

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The ps2 is ugly. Especially the fat one. :P

Phoenix534

The black Gamecube was sexy. And it had a handle! That's awesome!

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[QUOTE="Firstinstimct"] Hey your the guy who said the ps2 was ugly, you have zero credibility to me.rasengan2552

But the PS2 is ugly.

or how about the Alien Ware model computers that scream "Im a virgin".

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"]

[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

But the PS2 is ugly.Firstinstimct

or how about the Alien Ware model computers that scream "Im a virgin".

:lol: The only gaming system that can get you laid is the Vectrex, everyone knows that.

play my lbp2 levels. i guarantee you cant finish them

Yep, the level of difficulty in a game should determine GOTY.

Who the hell wants to play a game just because it is hard? How does that make it a better game? I play games for the fun of playing them, and the enjoyment I get out of finishing them, not so I can puff my chest out and say that I died 30 times to get past one enemy in DS.

While some games this generation do hold your hand, most don't but hey you see what you want to see.

BTW OOT was not hard...and the PS2 was ugly...well maybe not ugly, but it sure was plain...it was a black rectangle..what was so special about it? The PS2's beauty was in the software, not in the hardware itself.