Gamespot scores innacurate?

For me gamespot scores are looking inaccurate right now, for example,

WARIO WARE outscores BIOSHOCK.

IM pretty sure people think bioshock is better than warioware.

Im using IGN Scores until the old review system is back...

You have to remember that Wii games have much, much lower standards than PS3, PC and Xbox 360 games. For example, a 9 scoring Wii game would probably equal a 7 scoring 360 game.

You have to remember that Wii games have much, much lower standards than PS3, PC and Xbox 360 games. For example, a 9 scoring Wii game would probably equal a 7 scoring 360 game.

dracula_16

nope

For me gamespot scores are looking inaccurate right now, for example,

WARIO WARE outscores BIOSHOCK.

IM pretty sure people think bioshock is better than warioware.

Im using IGN Scores until the old review system is back...

NuclearKidX

ign is pretty notorious for scoring games higher than the average.

Sigh...

It doesn't mean Warioware is a better game than Bioshock. It means that for a mini-game collection on the Wii its a AAA game.

It doesn't seem so "inaccurate"to me...it just seems kind of re-centered. As if a 9.0 on the new rating system translates to a higher score on the old system.

Besides, the only fool-proof way of checking review accuracy is between games of the same genre, on the same system. imo.

You have to remember that Wii games have much, much lower standards than PS3, PC and Xbox 360 games. For example, a 9 scoring Wii game would probably equal a 7 scoring 360 game.

dracula_16

[QUOTE="dracula_16"]

You have to remember that Wii games have much, much lower standards than PS3, PC and Xbox 360 games. For example, a 9 scoring Wii game would probably equal a 7 scoring 360 game.

Tjeremiah1988

nope

Explain. Because it's obvious with a one word answer that you are just in denial. I, unlike you, have thoroughly researched this subject.

I don't think you can compare scores between the new and old system, especially a 9 and 9.1. They are using two different systems to get a score. A game can't get a 9.1 now.I also think that they may be toughening up on the grading. That second thought is just a hunch, though.

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"][QUOTE="dracula_16"]

You have to remember that Wii games have much, much lower standards than PS3, PC and Xbox 360 games. For example, a 9 scoring Wii game would probably equal a 7 scoring 360 game.

dracula_16

nope

Explain. Because it's obvious with a one word answer that you are just in denial. I, unlike you, have thoroughly researched this subject.

Translation: I'm a fanboy but I still want to look credible.

You have to remember that Wii games have much, much lower standards than PS3, PC and Xbox 360 games. For example, a 9 scoring Wii game would probably equal a 7 scoring 360 game.

dracula_16

:roll: Come back with proof of that, then we'll talk.

Aside from that,the GS reviewersare inconsistant, but it's hard for an opinion to be inaccurate.

i'd say that's better than Gamespots current reputation for notoriously underscoring games. there was even a blog post by an ex GS staffer saying this is intentional to get more traffic through the forums, and more ad revenue :) i'd definitely say it's better to be known for occasionally overrating then intentionally underscoring (if that is the case of course). a glance at gamerankings.com does seem to confirm it though.

3picuri3

[QUOTE="dracula_16"][QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"][QUOTE="dracula_16"]

You have to remember that Wii games have much, much lower standards than PS3, PC and Xbox 360 games. For example, a 9 scoring Wii game would probably equal a 7 scoring 360 game.

Boba_Fett_3710

nope

Explain. Because it's obvious with a one word answer that you are just in denial. I, unlike you, have thoroughly researched this subject.

Translation: I'm a fanboy but I still want to look credible.

I don't appreciate you getting off topic. Why don't you just refer to my original post and we'll call it a day. All of my points were backed with logic where as you two guys attack my post for no reason. You are like two wolves trying to take down a water buffalo but failing miserably. Let's discuss the topic at hand, shall we?

The Wii has lower standards than PC, 360 and PC games- this is a fact.

The Wii has lower standards than PC, 360 and PC games- this is a fact.

Then prove your credibility and show your proof.

[QUOTE="dracula_16"]

You have to remember that Wii games have much, much lower standards than PS3, PC and Xbox 360 games. For example, a 9 scoring Wii game would probably equal a 7 scoring 360 game.

TimeToPartyHard

:roll: Come back with proof of that, then we'll talk.

Aside from that,the GS reviewersare inconsistant, but it's hard for an opinion to be inaccurate.

Ok, I have proof. RE4scored a 9+ on the Wii but scored in the 7's on the PC. Even if Capcom didn't make the PC version a lazy port, it would have scored lower than the Wii version due to higherstandards.

I don't appreciate you getting off topic. Why don't you just refer to my original post and we'll call it a day. All of my points were backed with logic where as you two guys attack my post for no reason. You are like two wolves trying to take down a water buffalo but failing miserably. Let's discuss the topic at hand, shall we?

The Wii has lower standards than PC, 360 and PC games- this is a fact.

dracula_16

Not all games are held to the same standard. The console the game is on, the dateon which it was released(astimepasses, standards increase)and the genre the game falls(that is, the games goals.. what it is trying to do)in affect how it is reviewed. Warioware was a game made to use the wii remote in all sorts of interesting ways in quick minigames, and it did that well. Bioshock is on the 360/PC and is an FPS with RPG elements.

In short; IF game A has a higher score then game B, then is A > B? The answer is, undetermined..

I do not like how many people simply try to pass of some reviews as just being "one persons opinion". Gamespot says it themselves that they don't beleive their reviews are entirely opinionated, but rather representations of all the facts.

Also, i'd like to point out gamespots rating system has changed. This makes it VERY difficult to compare games from a year ago with those of today.

EDIT: no the wii does not have lower standards overall, just different standards.
I'd also like to note i highly disagree with many of gamespots so i would agree that they are innacurate. But not ridiculously so, and simply because i have my own standards on which i rate games.

The Wii has lower standards than PC, 360 and PC games- this is a fact.

Then prove your credibility and show your proof.

Boba_Fett_3710

The proof is in the pudding. Check RE4's graphics score on the Wii: it's a 9. RE4 isa 2 year oldlast gen game yet it still managed to get a high graphics score. Check out S.T.A.L.K.E.R's graphics which also recieved a 9 and you will notice a massive difference in graphics.

See... Boba Fett, if you try to call me out on something then you will lose. Just remember that for future reference. :)

[QUOTE="TimeToPartyHard"][QUOTE="dracula_16"]

You have to remember that Wii games have much, much lower standards than PS3, PC and Xbox 360 games. For example, a 9 scoring Wii game would probably equal a 7 scoring 360 game.

dracula_16

:roll: Come back with proof of that, then we'll talk.

Aside from that,the GS reviewersare inconsistant, but it's hard for an opinion to be inaccurate.

Ok, I have proof. RE4scored a 9+ on the Wii but scored in the 7's on the PC. Even if Capcom didn't make the PC version a lazy port, it would have scored lower than the Wii version due to higherstandards.

That is not proof. It's been discussed, posted, proved, multiple times. What else do you have?

For me gamespot scores are looking inaccurate right now, for example,

WARIO WARE outscores BIOSHOCK.

IM pretty sure people think bioshock is better than warioware.

Im using IGN Scores until the old review system is back...

NuclearKidX

I think that now it is common knowledge that the gamespot review 'score' is inaccurate as hell. You would be better off seeing the critics score than relying soley on Gamespot like you/we used to.

i'd say that's better than Gamespots current reputation for notoriously underscoring games. there was even a blog post by an ex GS staffer saying this is intentional to get more traffic through the forums, and more ad revenue :) i'd definitely say it's better to be known for occasionally overrating then intentionally underscoring (if that is the case of course). a glance at gamerankings.com does seem to confirm it though.

3picuri3

[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]

The Wii has lower standards than PC, 360 and PC games- this is a fact.

Then prove your credibility and show your proof.

dracula_16

The proof is in the pudding. Check RE4's graphics score on the Wii: it's a 9. RE4 isa 2 year oldlast gen game yet it still managed to get a high graphics score. Check out S.T.A.L.K.E.R's graphics which also recieved a 9 and you will notice a massive difference in graphics.

See... Boba Fett, if you try to call me out on something then you will lose. Just remember that for future reference. :)

You've proven nothing....still. RE4 was a graphic 9 last gen, when it was reviewed and for the Wii up until that point.

[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]

The Wii has lower standards than PC, 360 and PC games- this is a fact.

Then prove your credibility and show your proof.

dracula_16

The proof is in the pudding. Check RE4's graphics score on the Wii: it's a 9. RE4 isa 2 year oldlast gen game yet it still managed to get a high graphics score. Check out S.T.A.L.K.E.R's graphics which also recieved a 9 and you will notice a massive difference in graphics.

See... Boba Fett, if you try to call me out on something then you will lose. Just remember that for future reference. :)

RE4 was released at a lower price tag, this is taken into account in its review. Also, RE4 gains alot of points in graphics due to its incredible artstyle and design.

But, there is no denying that the Wii's technical graphics standard is lower then that of the other two consoles. Also, it is good to keep in mind that the standard is usually set by a game, or what we have been told a system is capable of. Up until metroid 3, RE4 was indeed one of the better looking games on the Wii.

I'd like to point out, that the wii has other standards as well that are differnet then those of the 360 and ps3. It's not fair to say that a AAA game on the wii is really only worth a AA on the 360/ps3, if that's what you may be implying.

EDIT: Grive above said exactly what i was trying to say to some extent. Is bioshock a better FPS/RPG then warioware is a better party game. Standards people, it's more then just the system the game is on.

[QUOTE="dracula_16"][QUOTE="TimeToPartyHard"][QUOTE="dracula_16"]

You have to remember that Wii games have much, much lower standards than PS3, PC and Xbox 360 games. For example, a 9 scoring Wii game would probably equal a 7 scoring 360 game.

TimeToPartyHard

:roll: Come back with proof of that, then we'll talk.

Aside from that,the GS reviewersare inconsistant, but it's hard for an opinion to be inaccurate.

Ok, I have proof. RE4scored a 9+ on the Wii but scored in the 7's on the PC. Even if Capcom didn't make the PC version a lazy port, it would have scored lower than the Wii version due to higherstandards.

That is not proof. It's been discussed, posted, proved, multiple times. What else do you have?

Holy cow... it's unbelieveable how relectant you are to acknowledge the points that I put forth. You know... arguing with me doesn't get you any "cool" points.

Let's try this again:

Madden 07 scored higher on the Wii than the other versions because of lowered standards. Check out the graphics and multiplayer for that game.... there wasn't any online for that game. Where as the Xbox 360 version would have to have online to be scored well.

The Wii has lower standards than PC, 360 and PC games- this is a fact.

Then prove your credibility and show your proof.

Boba_Fett_3710

It has lower (much lower) capabilities, it is capable of less, less = lower standards.

[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]

The Wii has lower standards than PC, 360 and PC games- this is a fact.

Then prove your credibility and show your proof.

tomarlyn

It has lower (much lower) capabilities, it is capable of less, less = lower standards.

Exactly. I find it shocking that this would even be debatable.

[QUOTE="dracula_16"][QUOTE="TimeToPartyHard"][QUOTE="dracula_16"]

You have to remember that Wii games have much, much lower standards than PS3, PC and Xbox 360 games. For example, a 9 scoring Wii game would probably equal a 7 scoring 360 game.

TimeToPartyHard

:roll: Come back with proof of that, then we'll talk.

Aside from that,the GS reviewersare inconsistant, but it's hard for an opinion to be inaccurate.

Ok, I have proof. RE4scored a 9+ on the Wii but scored in the 7's on the PC. Even if Capcom didn't make the PC version a lazy port, it would have scored lower than the Wii version due to higherstandards.

That is not proof. It's been discussed, posted, proved, multiple times. What else do you have?

well there is that page that gamespot released about how they score games. I remeber casey posted the linka few weeks ago. It says that games are rated compared to other games on its console.

[QUOTE="dracula_16"]

You have to remember that Wii games have much, much lower standards than PS3, PC and Xbox 360 games. For example, a 9 scoring Wii game would probably equal a 7 scoring 360 game.

Tjeremiah1988

nope

agreed thats makes as much sense as PC gamers have higher standards

[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]

The Wii has lower standards than PC, 360 and PC games- this is a fact.

Then prove your credibility and show your proof.

tomarlyn

It has lower (much lower) capabilities, it is capable of less, less = lower standards.

for graphics and sound i agree. for controls i think they have higher standards because they expect more out of it.

[QUOTE="NuclearKidX"]

For me gamespot scores are looking inaccurate right now, for example,

WARIO WARE outscores BIOSHOCK.

IM pretty sure people think bioshock is better than warioware.

Im using IGN Scores until the old review system is back...

CaseyWegner

ign is pretty notorious for scoring games higher than the average.

gamespot is pretty notorious for scoring games lower than the average.

[QUOTE="dracula_16"][QUOTE="TimeToPartyHard"][QUOTE="dracula_16"]

You have to remember that Wii games have much, much lower standards than PS3, PC and Xbox 360 games. For example, a 9 scoring Wii game would probably equal a 7 scoring 360 game.

TimeToPartyHard

:roll: Come back with proof of that, then we'll talk.

Aside from that,the GS reviewersare inconsistant, but it's hard for an opinion to be inaccurate.

Ok, I have proof. RE4scored a 9+ on the Wii but scored in the 7's on the PC. Even if Capcom didn't make the PC version a lazy port, it would have scored lower than the Wii version due to higherstandards.

That is not proof. It's been discussed, posted, proved, multiple times. What else do you have?

Hows this for proof: Gamespot Review Guidelines

Heres the part you want since you seem unable to comprehend what others are telling you:

"

We Rate Games According to the Current Standards of Their Platforms and Genres
Every gaming platform is different, especially in terms of its technical features. However, we believe high-quality gaming experiences are possible on all the gaming platforms that we cover. So we review games against the standards of their respective platforms by implicitly comparing them to other games on that same platform and, to a lesser extent, to other games in that genre. As a result, our ratings of games on different platforms are not intended to be directly compared to one another. However, relative comparisons do apply, so a game that scores poorly is a poor game by any standards, while a game that scores extremely high is an outstanding game by any standards. "

Any questions? Good, school is dismissed.

For me gamespot scores are looking inaccurate right now, for example,

WARIO WARE outscores BIOSHOCK.

IM pretty sure people think bioshock is better than warioware.

Im using IGN Scores until the old review system is back...

NuclearKidX

I think you need to take a step back, read what you have written, and think about it. HOw can a review, which is based on subjective opinion, be "accurate". Scores aren't fact. They aren't truth. They are simply the opinion of the person reviewing the game. And what you are basically saying with your post is that something is only "accurate" is YOU think it is. Why do you think YOUR opinion is concrete fact while someone elses, someone with more experience probably, is inaccurate. Why is something only credible to you if it fits into your preconceived point of view? Do you read the reviews or just look at the number?

Not even gamespot would agree that just because WarioWare for a better score than Bioshock that it's the better game. They are two completely different games, with different aims, different audiences on different systems. You can't directly compare them based purely on score. You may as well say that a certain CD is better than a certain Movie because the score is better.

[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]

The Wii has lower standards than PC, 360 and PC games- this is a fact.

Then prove your credibility and show your proof.

dracula_16

The proof is in the pudding. Check RE4's graphics score on the Wii: it's a 9. RE4 isa 2 year oldlast gen game yet it still managed to get a high graphics score. Check out S.T.A.L.K.E.R's graphics which also recieved a 9 and you will notice a massive difference in graphics.

See... Boba Fett, if you try to call me out on something then you will lose. Just remember that for future reference. :)

Was the gamecube held to lower standards than other systems? RE4 on the GCN scored higher than the PC, just wondering :)

I don't use Gamespot review scores for much of anything. Bioshock has averaged 95.5% on gamerankings, even with Gamespot's score included. That along tells me this is a "AAAA" game. XanderZane

and loztp got a 96 percentage higer than bioshock so it AAAA game 2

[QUOTE="TimeToPartyHard"][QUOTE="dracula_16"][QUOTE="TimeToPartyHard"][QUOTE="dracula_16"]

You have to remember that Wii games have much, much lower standards than PS3, PC and Xbox 360 games. For example, a 9 scoring Wii game would probably equal a 7 scoring 360 game.

dracula_16

:roll: Come back with proof of that, then we'll talk.

Aside from that,the GS reviewersare inconsistant, but it's hard for an opinion to be inaccurate.

Ok, I have proof. RE4scored a 9+ on the Wii but scored in the 7's on the PC. Even if Capcom didn't make the PC version a lazy port, it would have scored lower than the Wii version due to higherstandards.

That is not proof. It's been discussed, posted, proved, multiple times. What else do you have?

Holy cow... it's unbelieveable how relectant you are to acknowledge the points that I put forth. You know... arguing with me doesn't get you any "cool" points.

Let's try this again:

Madden 07 scored higher on the Wii than the other versions because of lowered standards. Check out the graphics and multiplayer for that game.... there wasn't any online for that game. Where as the Xbox 360 version would have to have online to be scored well.

yah the Wii version for 07 scored better because the of the controls, and this year Madden 08 scored lower on the Wii, I guess that makes Wii have a higher standard know according to you, when a game is reviewed its not compared to other consoles no console has higher standards.

[QUOTE="dracula_16"][QUOTE="TimeToPartyHard"][QUOTE="dracula_16"][QUOTE="TimeToPartyHard"][QUOTE="dracula_16"]

You have to remember that Wii games have much, much lower standards than PS3, PC and Xbox 360 games. For example, a 9 scoring Wii game would probably equal a 7 scoring 360 game.

Hypochondria9

:roll: Come back with proof of that, then we'll talk.

Aside from that,the GS reviewersare inconsistant, but it's hard for an opinion to be inaccurate.

Ok, I have proof. RE4scored a 9+ on the Wii but scored in the 7's on the PC. Even if Capcom didn't make the PC version a lazy port, it would have scored lower than the Wii version due to higherstandards.

That is not proof. It's been discussed, posted, proved, multiple times. What else do you have?

Holy cow... it's unbelieveable how relectant you are to acknowledge the points that I put forth. You know... arguing with me doesn't get you any "cool" points.

Let's try this again:

Madden 07 scored higher on the Wii than the other versions because of lowered standards. Check out the graphics and multiplayer for that game.... there wasn't any online for that game. Where as the Xbox 360 version would have to have online to be scored well.

yah the Wii version for 07 scored better because the of the controls, and this year Madden 08 scored lower on the Wii, I guess that makes Wii have a higher standard know according to you, when a game is reviewed its not compared to other consoles no console has higher standards.

Refer to my above post, it clearly states, reviews are based and compared to games on the SAME platform, Because consoles have technical differences.

Awww how many times does it have to be said games get scored against games of its same genre, plus how canones OPINION be accurate or inaccurate?