Gamespot's gut reaction to PS3 europe launch

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It's official: Sony Computer Entertainment Europe has announced that the already-delayed PlayStation 3 console will launch with different hardware that will support "a broad range of original PlayStation titles and a limited range of PlayStation 2 titles." Once the PS3 is finally released in those territories, customers there will have been waiting longer to pay a higher sticker price for what is essentially less-powerful, less-flexible hardware. Then again, is backward compatibility really all that important to begin with? What does this mean for Sony, for prospective PS3 buyers, and for the future in general? GameSpot editors from around the globe sound off. Hear what they have to say.

http://www.gamespot.com/features/6166437/index.html?tag=topslot;title;1

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Some key quotes:

"only a "limited" number of previous-generation games will be playable at launch. While the exact number of compatible games will be revealed on March 23, the meticulously worded press release suggests that "limited" means less than 50 percent (otherwise the word "majority" would most likely have been used)."


"Stores are being upbeat about the preorders, which remain conspicuously open some two weeks after they were first announced."


"If we are getting a lesser system, shouldn't we also be getting a lesser price tag to match?"


"I'm just curious to know if these new and "improved" PS3s will eventually be released into Japan and North America. If it's cheaper to make them, then you know Sony's going to want to put them out all over. There's no sense in having special units for one region. My guess is that as soon as store shelves are cleared of the existing PS3s, we'll start seeing these new units around the world."


"if I was still way into playing PlayStation 2 games, I'd probably be fine with hooking up a PS2. And I have a PSOne with the screen attachment, so I'm already set for that old stuff. So me, personally, I don't care."
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Was a big feature for this even necessary ? People can make their own decisions based on the facts rather than trying to make things look worse than they really are ?

They don't even know what is on the BC game list.


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ok ps2 owners who wanna play the ps2 libary on the ps3 are ganna be pissed
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Euro-cows are getting the shaft no matter which way you look at it. If I were one of them I would be mad as hell right now.

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ok ps2 owners who wanna play the ps2 libary on the ps3 are ganna be pissed mamalaga12
they are using software emulation which is going to be better than hardware emulation in the long run
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it's odd that only 6 months ago the cows were claiming the ps3 would outsell the 360 BECAUSE of backwards compatibility..

now it supposedly doesn't matter to cows....

good gawd...:roll:

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My gut reaction: In a year or so it won't even matter.
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"Stores are being upbeat about the preorders, which remain conspicuously open some two weeks after they were first announced. The Nintendo Wii sold out in minutes when preorders opened back in November here, and there were similar situations with the 360 and the PS2."

LOL

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Just shows that Gamespot likes to kick Sony when they're down. And dont give me the... "They are just reporting the news" deal, when it's no longer any type of news but old.
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#11 Spartan070
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Just shows that Gamespot likes to kick Sony when they're down. And dont give me the... "They are just reporting the news" deal, when it's no longer any type of news but old.Telekill
It's really not that old...
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#12 cakeorrdeath
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Just shows that Gamespot likes to kick Sony when they're down. And dont give me the... "They are just reporting the news" deal, when it's no longer any type of news but old.Telekill


This happened on Friday. That means they have had one working day to produce this feature.
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I almost pretty sure cows made fun of the 360 when they announced their backwards compatibility list and that it was limited.  Now cows say its no big deal.  Well i think cows are two faced here on this subject.  
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I almost pretty sure cows made fun of the 360 when they announced their backwards compatibility list and that it was limited. Now cows say its no big deal. Well i think cows are two faced here on this subject. sirk1264
True , but it also makes the lemmings hypocrites as well because they defended it and now they are going crazy over it. It is an endless cycle.


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I almost pretty sure cows made fun of the 360 when they announced their backwards compatibility list and that it was limited.  Now cows say its no big deal.  Well i think cows are two faced here on this subject.  sirk1264
Everyone on System Wars is two faced... it's called fanboyism. I'd be angry at Sony if they had done that to the PS3 before I bought it, but it wouldn't have mattered too much to me cause I had a PS2. Worse goes to worse, they should just keep their PS2, cause chances are that if they are worried about the BC of the PS3, then they have or had a PS2.
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So the PS3 is now real expensive, has no rumble, few games and not very good backwards compatability? I think I will just stick with my PS2 in the near future. If I waited this long for it already then I can wait until the price drops... if I end up getting it at all.
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Just shows that Gamespot likes to kick Sony when they're down. And dont give me the... "They are just reporting the news" deal, when it's no longer any type of news but old.Telekill
From a cow's mouth to our ears- Sony screwing up == old news.
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Euro-cows are getting the shaft no matter which way you look at it. If I were one of them I would be mad as hell right now.

Newsboy


Come on now wasnt it the lemmings that said BC doesnt matter at all..now lemming actin like its a big deal..
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Just shows that Gamespot likes to kick Sony when they're down. And dont give me the... "They are just reporting the news" deal, when it's no longer any type of news but old.Telekill


This is System Wars. People will do anything to confront other 'animals' here.
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[QUOTE="Newsboy"]

Euro-cows are getting the shaft no matter which way you look at it. If I were one of them I would be mad as hell right now.

ps3gen


Come on now wasnt it the lemmings that said BC doesnt matter at all..now lemming actin like its a big deal..



Well, yeah. Lemmings, Cows, Sheep are all fanboys. So when you're system has something another system doesn't you rip them off about it. When you're system doesn't have something another system does you say it's no big deal anyway.
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[QUOTE="Newsboy"]

Euro-cows are getting the shaft no matter which way you look at it. If I were one of them I would be mad as hell right now.

ps3gen


Come on now wasnt it the lemmings that said BC doesnt matter at all..now lemming actin like its a big deal..

It was a big deal then and it's a big deal now since pretty much everybody agrees BC is important. However, it turned out to not be a nightmare for lemmings and it won't be a nightmare for cows in the end. However, the fact that Europeans will be paying much more for less is disgraceful.
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Just keep your freaking PS2. Why are you people making a scholar like me swear?
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lol. haters. this is not a big deal, bc is not that big of a deal. xbox 360 fanboys talking about backwards compatabiltiy, lol, the irony. anyways, I'm getting a PS3 the day it launches here in the UK, games like Resistance, Motorstorm and Virtua Fighter 5 are out on day one, with a couple of multi-plats like FEAR, Oblivion and Virtua Tennis 3. also PSN games like Tekken 5 DR, flOw, Gran Turismo HD and Blast Factor are also out on day one. better ythan Xbox 360 and Wii's current line up if you ask me
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[QUOTE="sirk1264"]I almost pretty sure cows made fun of the 360 when they announced their backwards compatibility list and that it was limited. Now cows say its no big deal. Well i think cows are two faced here on this subject. Nike_Air
True , but it also makes the lemmings hypocrites as well because they defended it and now they are going crazy over it. It is an endless cycle.


This whole BC issue doesn't really affect me since I still have my PS2 and it is so small, but I think the larger issue here is the fact that Europe keeps getting screwed by Sony.  NA and Japan got a better console for a cheaper price at an earlier date.  Europe was told that they would get it at the same time as the rest of the world and I'm guessing they assumed they would get a console that is of identical quality.  I think that is why this is such a big issue, the focus is on the screwage, not the BC.  That is my focus at least. 

Oh, and I do hate the poor BC on the 360.  My Xbox is a lot bigger than my PS2, so it takes up a lot more room.  I have had to pack up my 360 due to space limitations. 

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The really ironic thing is that Sony stated they were removing the PS2 chipset back in June and replacing it with a software emulator.   For once they actually kept their word and they are being trashed for it.  I'm starting to think some people will actually bash them just for the sake of bashing.
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lol. haters. this is not a big deal, bc is not that big of a deal. xbox 360 fanboys talking about backwards compatabiltiy, lol, the irony. anyways, I'm getting a PS3 the day it launches here in the UK, games like Resistance, Motorstorm and Virtua Fighter 5 are out on day one, with a couple of multi-plats like FEAR, Oblivion and Virtua Tennis 3. also PSN games like Tekken 5 DR, flOw, Gran Turismo HD and Blast Factor are also out on day one. better ythan Xbox 360 and Wii's current line up if you ask mexxThyLordxx
I can not believe anyone would pay that much for a console. I think it's ridiculous what they're asking here in the States and you guys are paying 50 percent above that! Oh well, I hope it's what you wanted!
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[QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"]lol. haters. this is not a big deal, bc is not that big of a deal. xbox 360 fanboys talking about backwards compatabiltiy, lol, the irony. anyways, I'm getting a PS3 the day it launches here in the UK, games like Resistance, Motorstorm and Virtua Fighter 5 are out on day one, with a couple of multi-plats like FEAR, Oblivion and Virtua Tennis 3. also PSN games like Tekken 5 DR, flOw, Gran Turismo HD and Blast Factor are also out on day one. better ythan Xbox 360 and Wii's current line up if you ask meNewsboy
I can not believe anyone would pay that much for a console. I think it's ridiculous what they're asking here in the States and you guys are paying 50 percent above that! Oh well, I hope it's what you wanted!

OMG!!!! I can't believe fossilize bones that are 100 million years old are worth priceless.
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[QUOTE="Newsboy"][QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"]lol. haters. this is not a big deal, bc is not that big of a deal. xbox 360 fanboys talking about backwards compatabiltiy, lol, the irony. anyways, I'm getting a PS3 the day it launches here in the UK, games like Resistance, Motorstorm and Virtua Fighter 5 are out on day one, with a couple of multi-plats like FEAR, Oblivion and Virtua Tennis 3. also PSN games like Tekken 5 DR, flOw, Gran Turismo HD and Blast Factor are also out on day one. better ythan Xbox 360 and Wii's current line up if you ask meSocrates88
I can not believe anyone would pay that much for a console. I think it's ridiculous what they're asking here in the States and you guys are paying 50 percent above that! Oh well, I hope it's what you wanted!

OMG!!!! I can't believe fossilize bones that are 100 million years old are worth priceless.

Yeah, the only difference is the PS3 isn't the last evidence of a now extinct creature...oh wait, maybe it is?
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[QUOTE="Socrates88"][QUOTE="Newsboy"][QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"]lol. haters. this is not a big deal, bc is not that big of a deal. xbox 360 fanboys talking about backwards compatabiltiy, lol, the irony. anyways, I'm getting a PS3 the day it launches here in the UK, games like Resistance, Motorstorm and Virtua Fighter 5 are out on day one, with a couple of multi-plats like FEAR, Oblivion and Virtua Tennis 3. also PSN games like Tekken 5 DR, flOw, Gran Turismo HD and Blast Factor are also out on day one. better ythan Xbox 360 and Wii's current line up if you ask meNewsboy
I can not believe anyone would pay that much for a console. I think it's ridiculous what they're asking here in the States and you guys are paying 50 percent above that! Oh well, I hope it's what you wanted!

OMG!!!! I can't believe fossilize bones that are 100 million years old are worth priceless.

Yeah, the only difference is the PS3 isn't the last evidence of a now extinct creature...oh wait, maybe it is?

You missed the point by making a lame joke.
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[QUOTE="Newsboy"][QUOTE="Socrates88"][QUOTE="Newsboy"][QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"]lol. haters. this is not a big deal, bc is not that big of a deal. xbox 360 fanboys talking about backwards compatabiltiy, lol, the irony. anyways, I'm getting a PS3 the day it launches here in the UK, games like Resistance, Motorstorm and Virtua Fighter 5 are out on day one, with a couple of multi-plats like FEAR, Oblivion and Virtua Tennis 3. also PSN games like Tekken 5 DR, flOw, Gran Turismo HD and Blast Factor are also out on day one. better ythan Xbox 360 and Wii's current line up if you ask meSocrates88
I can not believe anyone would pay that much for a console. I think it's ridiculous what they're asking here in the States and you guys are paying 50 percent above that! Oh well, I hope it's what you wanted!

OMG!!!! I can't believe fossilize bones that are 100 million years old are worth priceless.

Yeah, the only difference is the PS3 isn't the last evidence of a now extinct creature...oh wait, maybe it is?

You missed the point by making a lame joke.

I got the point...and then I made a lame joke. You're trying to say in a round-about way that people place monitary value on different things, however comparing the PS3 to dinosaur bones is ridiculous.
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Sony have got to get their stuff together. I see a slim chance of it becoming the market leader anytime soon.
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Sony have got to egt their stuff together. I see a slim chance of it becoming the market leader anytime soon.secretsaiyan007
Ah right the BC problem will doom the PS3. I'm tired of these lies against Sony. Nothing Sony had control over made them go wrong. PS3 is successful wither you like it or not.Now, Cut tranmission and get going...
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It's official: Sony Computer Entertainment Europe has announced that the already-delayed PlayStation 3 console will launch with different hardware that will support "a broad range of original PlayStation titles and a limited range of PlayStation 2 titles." Once the PS3 is finally released in those territories, customers there will have been waiting longer to pay a higher sticker price for what is essentially less-powerful, less-flexible hardware. Then again, is backward compatibility really all that important to begin with? What does this mean for Sony, for prospective PS3 buyers, and for the future in general? GameSpot editors from around the globe sound off. Hear what they have to say.

http://www.gamespot.com/features/6166437/index.html?tag=topslot;title;1

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The amount of b/c games for the new PS3 haven't even yet been announced yet and all of Gamespots editors are trashing Sony already.
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[QUOTE="secretsaiyan007"]Sony have got to egt their stuff together. I see a slim chance of it becoming the market leader anytime soon.Socrates88
Ah right the BC problem will doom the PS3. I'm tired of these lies against Sony. Nothing Sony had control over made them go wrong. PS3 is successful wither you like it or not.Now, Cut tranmission and get going...

I think he is refering to its price more than anything.
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[QUOTE="Socrates88"][QUOTE="secretsaiyan007"]Sony have got to egt their stuff together. I see a slim chance of it becoming the market leader anytime soon.neogeo419
Ah right the BC problem will doom the PS3. I'm tired of these lies against Sony. Nothing Sony had control over made them go wrong. PS3 is successful wither you like it or not.Now, Cut tranmission and get going...

I think he is refering to its price more than anything.

Why is he talking about price in a B/C thread?
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Sony said they would do this all along. this will help with scaling and what not. BC is the one feature everyone wants but no one uses. i never see anyone play PS1 games now or have they for years. i play my final fantasy games but i use my PS1.
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[QUOTE="Newsboy"]

Euro-cows are getting the shaft no matter which way you look at it. If I were one of them I would be mad as hell right now.

ps3gen


Come on now wasnt it the lemmings that said BC doesnt matter at all..now lemming actin like its a big deal..

Yeah, but it's just horrible to think you are paying a premium price when you know that you are getting an inferior product. I would like to have the best quality PS3 that is available in other regions
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[QUOTE="mamalaga12"]ok ps2 owners who wanna play the ps2 libary on the ps3 are ganna be pissed PS2Hawk
they are using software emulation which is going to be better than hardware emulation in the long run

lol wut? did you just say that?
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[QUOTE="sirk1264"]I almost pretty sure cows made fun of the 360 when they announced their backwards compatibility list and that it was limited. Now cows say its no big deal. Well i think cows are two faced here on this subject. Nike_Air
True , but it also makes the lemmings hypocrites as well because they defended it and now they are going crazy over it. It is an endless cycle.


I don't know if you can say 360 fans are being hypocrites, they might have defended it, but the point is that Sony fans killed Microsoft fans because of it, now its the microsoft fans time to stick it to them.

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I don't know but that article does make this site seem a bit bias. They have no basis whatsoever to make the claims they are making.

What kills me is they talk about how much higher the price is when they didn't add the fact that Europenas pay higher taxes then us and that the taxes are already added in that price tag. The console is not much higher then what Americans pay for it after taxes.

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Ironically enough, Cows bashed the 360 to no end due to limited BC. And now the PS3 is having the same thing done essentially.

If that isn't the epiphany of Ironic then i don't know what is...

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[QUOTE="Newsboy"]

Euro-cows are getting the shaft no matter which way you look at it. If I were one of them I would be mad as hell right now.

ps3gen



Come on now wasnt it the lemmings that said BC doesnt matter at all..now lemming actin like its a big deal..

again, yes they did, but Sony fans kept telling microsoft fans how bad their systems were for not having the same backwards compatibility, now that sony and microsoft fans are in the same boat, of course microsoft fans are going to give it to them.

misery loves company, you guys should know that!

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Who honestly doesnt have a PS2 hooked up rite now somwer in ther home?  I bought a Ps3 to play PS3 games. but either way im in Canada and i can play ps2 games on it too. doesnt affect me
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#44 Blackbond
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Ironically enough, Cows bashed the 360 to no end due to limited BC. And now the PS3 is having the same thing done essentially.

If that isn't the epiphany of Ironic then i don't know what is...

Puckhog04


The man has a point
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#45 amcallister902
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Euro-cows are getting the shaft no matter which way you look at it. If I were one of them I would be mad as hell right now.

Newsboy
you need to get a life. how old are you like 30? dont be angry at sony just cause they droped some compablity. most likely only people with a ps2 in europe will buy a ps3.
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#46 F-Minus
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Who honestly doesnt have a PS2 hooked up rite now somwer in ther home? I bought a Ps3 to play PS3 games. but either way im in Canada and i can play ps2 games on it too. doesnt affect meGsSanAndreas


I do care. I don't want 10 consoles and 20 controllers and a cable traps to clutter everything in the room.
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#47 DrinkDuff
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Just shows that Gamespot likes to kick Sony when they're down. And dont give me the... "They are just reporting the news" deal, when it's no longer any type of news but old.Telekill
Not really kicking as much as they are observing. Sony kicked themselves down. Also, this news in not old. It has only been a couple of days.
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#48 dsmccracken
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Ironically enough, Cows bashed the 360 to no end due to limited BC. And now the PS3 is having the same thing done essentially.

If that isn't the epiphany of Ironic then i don't know what is...

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It is also the epitome of ironic.
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#49 DementedDragon
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The really ironic thing is that Sony stated they were removing the PS2 chipset back in June and replacing it with a software emulator.   For once they actually kept their word and they are being trashed for it.  I'm starting to think some people will actually bash them just for the sake of bashing.ramey70

It's a trend now these days; hopefully like all other trends at their time, it will fade.

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#50 kingsfan_0333
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Just shows that Gamespot likes to kick Sony when they're down. And dont give me the... "They are just reporting the news" deal, when it's no longer any type of news but old.Telekill

meh...sony has been "down" since launch.