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#1 PS3_3DO
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Does anyone think that Gears 2 won't have better graphics then Uncharted?

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#2 the-very-best
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It probably will. Why are concerned about that?
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#3 raynimrod
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Its unlikely that GeOW2 will look much better than GeOW.
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#4 THE_PREZIDENT
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So you admit that gears is not king anymore huh.
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#5 PS3_3DO
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It probably will. Why are concerned about that?the-very-best

The first Gears had better graphics of any Console game when it came out.

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Its unlikely that GeOW2 will look much better than GeOW.raynimrod

Yeah seriously they prettymuch pushed 360 to the limit. Maybe can optomize for more stuff going on and better AI but it's not really gonna get any better.

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#7 PS3_3DO
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Its unlikely that GeOW2 will look much better than GeOW.raynimrod

And Resistance 2 won't look much better then Resistance. :|

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#8 dgsag
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Does anyone think that Gears 2 won't have better graphics then Uncharted?

PS3_3DO

No, because they won't be trying to severely upgrade the engine this time. Their codebase works, so they're going to focus on improving the actual game.

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#9 Puckhog04
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GeoW was estimated as using about 25% of the 360 according to Epic. I would say, yes, Gears 2 will have better graphics than Gears 1. Better than Uncharted? No idea. Only time will tell.
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[QUOTE="raynimrod"]Its unlikely that GeOW2 will look much better than GeOW.Lazy_Boy88

Yeah seriously they prettymuch pushed 360 to the limit. Maybe can optomize for more stuff going on and better AI but it's not really gonna get any better.

link where it says gears pushed the 360 to its limit.
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#11 digxxbitty
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will probably look better. but in the here and now uncharted rules them all.
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#12 SOedipus
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It better look better.
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#13 Silenthps
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killzone2 will be out by then though.
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#14 TerroRizing
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UT3 already looks better than Uncharted, unless you like screen tearing, inconsistent textures, and alot of texture pop-in. Lets face it, while a fun game, uncharted was 9/10 graphics. I still really liked it myself though, despite the cliche story.
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#15 PS3_3DO
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[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Does anyone think that Gears 2 won't have better graphics then Uncharted?

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No, because they won't be trying to severely upgrade the engine this time. Their codebase works, so they're going to focus on improving the actual game.

You can say that about Resistance too. :|

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#16 Heydanbud92
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Yeah, I can't wait to see how it looks. I hope they make the single player alot longer than the first.
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#17 Heydanbud92
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Its unlikely that GeOW2 will look much better than GeOW.raynimrod

Its unlikely that you know what you are talking about.

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#18 Rogers_Wireless
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[QUOTE="raynimrod"]Its unlikely that GeOW2 will look much better than GeOW.Lazy_Boy88

Yeah seriously they prettymuch pushed 360 to the limit. Maybe can optomize for more stuff going on and better AI but it's not really gonna get any better.

like you would know :lol:

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#19 Rogers_Wireless
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[QUOTE="Lazy_Boy88"]

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]Its unlikely that GeOW2 will look much better than GeOW.THE_PREZIDENT

Yeah seriously they prettymuch pushed 360 to the limit. Maybe can optomize for more stuff going on and better AI but it's not really gonna get any better.

link where it says gears pushed the 360 to its limit.

insecure fanboys just like to pull crap from their a**

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#20 PS3_3DO
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Yeah, I can't wait to see how it looks. I hope they make the single player alot longer than the first.Heydanbud92

Yeah I am sure they are going to. I hope they have more Vehicles in Gears 2.

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UT3 already looks better than Uncharted, unless you like screen tearing, inconsistent textures, and alot of texture pop-in. Lets face itTerroRizing

LOL Uncharted has far better textures then Gears of War or UT3 and less texture pop in what the hell are you talking about.

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#22 TheDarkDisciple
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[QUOTE="raynimrod"]Its unlikely that GeOW2 will look much better than GeOW.Lazy_Boy88

Yeah seriously they prettymuch pushed 360 to the limit. Maybe can optomize for more stuff going on and better AI but it's not really gonna get any better.

lol, i would ask for a link but i know you're not gonna to find one. Epic already said that they only used about 1/4 of the 360's power or something like that.

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#23 Sgt_Hale
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I would sure HOPE that it looks better than Uncharted... it's likely to be coming out at least an entire year later. But then again, I suspect that Uncharted 2 will also look better than Gears 2... so I fail to see the point.

Having already played UT3 though, I seriously doubt it will look any better than MGS4, KZ2, or Resistance 2. There was an article recently stating that there are already next gen engines producing better looking games than the unreal engine at this point... so I don't really expect for GeOW2 to set any kind of graphical standard.

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[QUOTE="TerroRizing"]UT3 already looks better than Uncharted, unless you like screen tearing, inconsistent textures, and alot of texture pop-in. Lets face itPolaris_choice

LOL Uncharted has far better textures then Gears of War or UT3 and less texture pop in what the hell are you talking about.

I own both UT3 and uncharted, Uncharted has constant texture pop while UT3 only has some minor texture pop at the start of a level. Dont just take my word for it, read any review of both games, UT3 graphics > Uncharted graphics.

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#25 Heydanbud92
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[QUOTE="TerroRizing"]UT3 already looks better than Uncharted, unless you like screen tearing, inconsistent textures, and alot of texture pop-in. Lets face itPolaris_choice

LOL Uncharted has far better textures then Gears of War or UT3 and less texture pop in what the hell are you talking about.

i don't know... uncharted definitly has MORE textures... but the textures in GeOW are of a higher resolution.

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[QUOTE="raynimrod"]Its unlikely that GeOW2 will look much better than GeOW.Lazy_Boy88

Yeah seriously they prettymuch pushed 360 to the limit. Maybe can optomize for more stuff going on and better AI but it's not really gonna get any better.



Sure because you are a game developer that works at EPIC right? :roll:
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#27 TerroRizing
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[QUOTE="Polaris_choice"]

[QUOTE="TerroRizing"]UT3 already looks better than Uncharted, unless you like screen tearing, inconsistent textures, and alot of texture pop-in. Lets face itHeydanbud92

LOL Uncharted has far better textures then Gears of War or UT3 and less texture pop in what the hell are you talking about.

i don't know... uncharted definitly has MORE textures... but the textures in GeOW are of a higher resolution.

I wasnt even talking Gears of War, I was talking UT3 on ps3. Overall, its the best looking console game right now. Screen tearing and alot of texture pop bring Uncharted down a couple notches.

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[QUOTE="TerroRizing"]UT3 already looks better than Uncharted, unless you like screen tearing, inconsistent textures, and alot of texture pop-in. Lets face itPolaris_choice

LOL Uncharted has far better textures then Gears of War or UT3 and less texture pop in what the hell are you talking about.



Don't listen to this guy,he's just a pc and xbox360 hater,he talks out his arse all the time without any proof to back up he just said.
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#29 Truffle-Shuffle
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It won't have a lot of that screen tearing that made Uncharted look so good
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#30 Rogers_Wireless
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[QUOTE="raynimrod"]Its unlikely that GeOW2 will look much better than GeOW.Lazy_Boy88

Yeah seriously they prettymuch pushed 360 to the limit. Maybe can optomize for more stuff going on and better AI but it's not really gonna get any better.

well? where's your proof which a dozen ppl asked for? :lol:

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#31 club-sandwich
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I'm sure that it will look better.
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#32 def_mode
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and then Uncharted2 will look better than Gears 2
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#33 the-very-best
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[QUOTE="the-very-best"]It probably will. Why are concerned about that?PS3_3DO

The first Gears had better graphics of any Console game when it came out.

Yeah...and?

Does it really matter if Gears 2 isn't the best looking game when released?

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#34 stereointegrity
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by the time gears comes out uncharted wont be the graphics king for the ps3
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#35 Gamersince81
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GEOW2 better have a graphical jump as well as gameplay length/ multiplayer like RFOM to RFOM2 is getting at!! GEOW was too damn short.. great experiance but the single player was shorter than my farts after a burrito!!
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#36 Exeed_Orbit
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What the hell are you guys talking about, I'm pretty sure that Gears 2 will have better graphics than uncharted. I'm pretty sure that ANY game that has decent graphics by the time Gears 2 comes out, will look as good, or better than Uncharted.
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#37 sts9kid
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[QUOTE="Lazy_Boy88"]

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]Its unlikely that GeOW2 will look much better than GeOW.TheDarkDisciple

Yeah seriously they prettymuch pushed 360 to the limit. Maybe can optomize for more stuff going on and better AI but it's not really gonna get any better.

lol, i would ask for a link but i know you're not gonna to find one. Epic already said that they only used about 1/4 of the 360's power or something like that.

Sorry, but that just doesn't make any sense. Obviously Gears of War pushed the Xbox 360 as much as it could, I'm sure the developers squeezed the most effects & highest resolution textures that they could. It's not like Gears of War is a completely smooth game, there are a couple points where it runs rough for a little bit. I mean, obviously Gears of War wasn't using 25% of the Xbox 360 in any practical terms - it's using 100% of the CPU at times probably 100% of the RAM, etc.

Maybe a developer was talking about potential, but that's pretty subjective and I don't think there's an actual number someone can put on "potential".

Just my 2 cents....

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#38 Rogers_Wireless
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[QUOTE="TheDarkDisciple"][QUOTE="Lazy_Boy88"]

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]Its unlikely that GeOW2 will look much better than GeOW.sts9kid

Yeah seriously they prettymuch pushed 360 to the limit. Maybe can optomize for more stuff going on and better AI but it's not really gonna get any better.

lol, i would ask for a link but i know you're not gonna to find one. Epic already said that they only used about 1/4 of the 360's power or something like that.

Sorry, but that just doesn't make any sense. Obviously Gears of War pushed the Xbox 360 as much as it could, I'm sure the developers squeezed the most effects & highest resolution textures that they could. It's not like Gears of War is a completely smooth game, there are a couple points where it runs rough for a little bit. I mean, obviously Gears of War wasn't using 25% of the Xbox 360 in any practical terms - it's using 100% of the CPU at times probably 100% of the RAM, etc.

Maybe a developer was talking about potential, but that's pretty subjective and I don't think there's an actual number someone can put on "potential".

Just my 2 cents....

again, you just pulled that from you a** without any proof. :lol:

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[QUOTE="TheDarkDisciple"][QUOTE="Lazy_Boy88"]

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]Its unlikely that GeOW2 will look much better than GeOW.sts9kid

Yeah seriously they prettymuch pushed 360 to the limit. Maybe can optomize for more stuff going on and better AI but it's not really gonna get any better.

lol, i would ask for a link but i know you're not gonna to find one. Epic already said that they only used about 1/4 of the 360's power or something like that.

Sorry, but that just doesn't make any sense. Obviously Gears of War pushed the Xbox 360 as much as it could, I'm sure the developers squeezed the most effects & highest resolution textures that they could. It's not like Gears of War is a completely smooth game, there are a couple points where it runs rough for a little bit. I mean, obviously Gears of War wasn't using 25% of the Xbox 360 in any practical terms - it's using 100% of the CPU at times probably 100% of the RAM, etc.

Maybe a developer was talking about potential, but that's pretty subjective and I don't think there's an actual number someone can put on "potential".

Just my 2 cents....



Cliff B says you're wrong :

Having worked on Xbox 360, from a technology standpoint, how much more do you think the system can be pushed with future games?

I think there's plenty of room to push and experiment when it comes to physics and AI and real-time lighting. I think we've only scratched the surface of what we can do with gameplay as well as the 360.There's far more potential down the road to do more stuff. As amazing as I think Gears is, and my gut tells me I still love playing it, I think we have a really incredible experience; I think we'll definitely push it further if we get around to dong a new version in the future.

http://gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=85688

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http://www.joystiq.com/2006/10/26/is-gears-of-war-as-good-as-it-gets/

^ theres your precious link that everyone is begging for saying gears reached 360 limits. I dont know, nor do I care if it is true(or a truthful site), so dont waste my time with your mindless debates. Also, why does the tc keep referring to R: fall of man....that was a friggin launch title! xD. Plus it only used 10 percent or so of the ps3's power. And I can even find a link proving that if you people are so desperate to grasp at one. In the end I hope gears 2 looks better because with as much time as 360 has been out compared to ps3, it would be sad if it didnt surpass Drake.

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#41 Polaris_choice
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[QUOTE="Polaris_choice"]

[QUOTE="TerroRizing"]UT3 already looks better than Uncharted, unless you like screen tearing, inconsistent textures, and alot of texture pop-in. Lets face itTerroRizing

LOL Uncharted has far better textures then Gears of War or UT3 and less texture pop in what the hell are you talking about.

I own both UT3 and uncharted, Uncharted has constant texture pop while UT3 only has some minor texture pop at the start of a level. Dont just take my word for it, read any review of both games, UT3 graphics > Uncharted graphics.

Um I own both to and I can count the times on 1 hand Uncharted has texture pop in. Not to mention uncharted won best visuals on PS3 over at IGN and beat out UT3 so im not sure what you are talking about?

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#42 Polaris_choice
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[QUOTE="Polaris_choice"]

[QUOTE="TerroRizing"]UT3 already looks better than Uncharted, unless you like screen tearing, inconsistent textures, and alot of texture pop-in. Lets face it-wii60-

LOL Uncharted has far better textures then Gears of War or UT3 and less texture pop in what the hell are you talking about.



Don't listen to this guy,he's just a pc and xbox360 hater,he talks out his arse all the time without any proof to back up he just said.

Yet I owned you so ridiculously hard in the last thread you left.

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#43 sts9kid
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again, you just pulled that from you a** without any proof.

Proof? It's pretty much common sense, but please feel free to address anything I've actually said. Do you actually disagree with the following:

1.) Gears of War is not a completely smooth game, several times during the campaign frame rates would drop below 30fps (the game is capped at 30fps)

2.) The frame rate dropping indicated that the CPU, RAM, or GPU is at full load

3.) Obviously Epic did not put an artificial cap on the game, allowing it to only access 25% of the RAM, CPU, GPU, etc.

4.) Talking about the potential of a machine is highly subjective and speculative

If you disagree with anything I've said, please feel free to show me the error in my ways.

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http://www.joystiq.com/2006/10/26/is-gears-of-war-as-good-as-it-gets/

^ theres your precious link that everyone is begging for saying gears reached 360 limits. I dont know, nor do I care if it is true(or a truthful site), so dont waste my time with your mindless debates. Also, why does the tc keep referring to R: fall of man....that was a friggin launch title! xD. Plus it only used 10 percent or so of the ps3's power. And I can even find a link proving that if you people are so desperate to grasp at one. In the end I hope gears 2 looks better because with as much time as 360 has been out compared to ps3, it would be sad if it didnt surpass Drake.

mccoyca112


They were talking about the memory ram.
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#45 -wii60-
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[QUOTE="-wii60-"][QUOTE="Polaris_choice"]

[QUOTE="TerroRizing"]UT3 already looks better than Uncharted, unless you like screen tearing, inconsistent textures, and alot of texture pop-in. Lets face itPolaris_choice

LOL Uncharted has far better textures then Gears of War or UT3 and less texture pop in what the hell are you talking about.



Don't listen to this guy,he's just a pc and xbox360 hater,he talks out his arse all the time without any proof to back up he just said.

Yet I owned you so ridiculously hard in the last thread you left.



You owned me when? :lol:, so u live from that imaginary felling called ''owned'' wow feel sorry for you :(
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again, you just pulled that from you a** without any proof.

sts9kid

Proof? It's pretty much common sense, but please feel free to address anything I've actually said. Do you actually disagree with the following:

1.) Gears of War is not a completely smooth game, several times during the campaign frame rates would drop below 30fps (the game is capped at 30fps)

2.) The frame rate dropping indicated that the CPU, RAM, or GPU is at full load

3.) Obviously Epic did not put an artificial cap on the game, allowing it to only access 25% of the RAM, CPU, GPU, etc.

4.) Talking about the potential of a machine is highly subjective and speculative

If you disagree with anything I've said, please feel free to show me the error in my ways.



Keep ignoring my post :roll:,cliff b just proved you wrong, u don't know more than him.
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Proof? It's pretty much common sense, but please feel free to address anything I've actually said. Do you actually disagree with the following:

1.) Gears of War is not a completely smooth game, several times during the campaign frame rates would drop below 30fps (the game is capped at 30fps)

2.) The frame rate dropping indicated that the CPU, RAM, or GPU is at full load

3.) Obviously Epic did not put an artificial cap on the game, allowing it to only access 25% of the RAM, CPU, GPU, etc.

4.) Talking about the potential of a machine is highly subjective and speculative

If you disagree with anything I've said, please feel free to show me the error in my ways.

sts9kid

"obviously Gears of War wasn't using 25% of the Xbox 360 in any practical terms - it's using 100% of the CPU at times probably 100% of the RAM, etc."

^ this is the BS part you pull from you a**. funny you didnt include that in your next post :|

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#48 Rogers_Wireless
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[QUOTE="sts9kid"]

again, you just pulled that from you a** without any proof.

-wii60-

Proof? It's pretty much common sense, but please feel free to address anything I've actually said. Do you actually disagree with the following:

1.) Gears of War is not a completely smooth game, several times during the campaign frame rates would drop below 30fps (the game is capped at 30fps)

2.) The frame rate dropping indicated that the CPU, RAM, or GPU is at full load

3.) Obviously Epic did not put an artificial cap on the game, allowing it to only access 25% of the RAM, CPU, GPU, etc.

4.) Talking about the potential of a machine is highly subjective and speculative

If you disagree with anything I've said, please feel free to show me the error in my ways.



Keep ignoring my post :roll:,cliff b just proved you wrong, u don't know more than him.

apparantly he thinks he does :lol:

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#49 mccoyca112
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^than thx for correcting me....nonetheless, these topics remind me of visits to the zoo >.>
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#50 michael098
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Barley, maybe more enemy's and stuff like that, i hope they concentrate on making it a good game though. Gears of war is seriously overrated...