Gears franchise to go multiplat in 2012 ?

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#1 Swift_Boss_A
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As far as I know Gears is not owned by MS like for example Halo is. It's an IP that still belongs to Epic but due to a contract with MS the trilogy will only appear on the 360. Of course seeing as how MS has published and funded every Gears game it may look like it belongs to the 360 but keep in mind that so was Ninja Gaiden 2. Everyone went on about how NG2 would never come to PS3 because it was published by MS and yet we all know what happened. Im just saying it seems with the way MS is treating Epic it wouldn't be totally surprising if Gears 3 went to PS3 in 2012. And don't give me that whole "oh the PS3 fans wont understand teh story" Like Gears has a story lol, and besides that didn't stop DMC4 to go 360 and Mass Effect 2 on PS3 in Jan of 2011.

...And start! 8)

I will also like to add that I can see into the future, I predicted ME2 would go multiplat and it did so you guys should take my word for this too :P I will not benefit from Gears going multiplat Im simply saying there is a strong chance it will before the end of this gen. Besides I hates Gears lol.

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#2 funsohng
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NO Gears of War franchise, however, is.
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#3 HaloinventedFPS
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oh boy to epic regret letting them own the Gears IP

so many lost sales from PC/PS3

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#4 Luxen90
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[QUOTE="funsohng"]NO Gears of War franchise, however, is.

God, don't yell at Swift Boss :P MS should buy Epic Games.
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#5 MFDOOM1983
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So they're the publisher?
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#6 HaloinventedFPS
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So they're the publisher?MFDOOM1983

Epic games make the game

Microsoft pretty much publish it since they own the rights

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#7 Swift_Boss_A
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[QUOTE="funsohng"]NO Gears of War franchise, however, is.

Really? I thought Epic just had a 2 game deal/contract regarding Gears, Im not sure but I heard it hear in SW with a link like 2 years, which doesn't prove anything lol but still. I always figured Gears is Epic's IP but funded by MS.
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#8 MFDOOM1983
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[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"][QUOTE="funsohng"]NO Gears of War franchise, however, is.

Really? I thought Epic just had a 2 game deal/contract regarding Gears, Im not sure but I heard it hear in SW with a link like 2 years, which doesn't prove anything lol but still. I always figured Gears is Epic's IP but funded by MS.

They have an exclusive deal for the gears trilogy.
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#9 SaltyMeatballs
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[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"][QUOTE="funsohng"]NO Gears of War franchise, however, is.

Really? I thought Epic just had a 2 game deal/contract regarding Gears, Im not sure but I heard it hear in SW with a link like 2 years, which doesn't prove anything lol but still. I always figured Gears is Epic's IP but funded by MS.

MS has a deal for the trilogy, Gears is Epics, but as long as this game is part of the trilogy MS calls the shots.
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#10 Luxen90
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Actually I'm not sure if MS owns the Gears of War franchise either. I was always under the impression that it was a contact to publish 3 games.

Edit: well someone cleared that up fast.

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#11 Swift_Boss_A
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"][QUOTE="funsohng"]NO Gears of War franchise, however, is.

Really? I thought Epic just had a 2 game deal/contract regarding Gears, Im not sure but I heard it hear in SW with a link like 2 years, which doesn't prove anything lol but still. I always figured Gears is Epic's IP but funded by MS.

MS has a deal for the trilogy, Gears is Epics, but as long as this game is part of the trilogy MS calls the shots.

Ok but MS are treating Epic like dirt these days, wouldn't surprise if Gears trilogy arrives on PS3 once the contract expires, lol not that I would care.
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#12 Luxen90
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Ok but MS are treating Epic like dirt these days, wouldn't surprise if Gears trilogy arrives on PS3 once the contract expires, lol not that I would care.Swift_Boss_A
How are they treating them like dirt?
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]Really? I thought Epic just had a 2 game deal/contract regarding Gears, Im not sure but I heard it hear in SW with a link like 2 years, which doesn't prove anything lol but still. I always figured Gears is Epic's IP but funded by MS.Swift_Boss_A
MS has a deal for the trilogy, Gears is Epics, but as long as this game is part of the trilogy MS calls the shots.

Ok but MS are treating Epic like dirt these days, wouldn't surprise if Gears trilogy arrives on PS3 once the contract expires, lol not that I would care.

Sure, but you would end up caring. And no, I don't know the terms of the contract, but knowing MS they might just leave it at that, have the trilogy then the rest of the series will go multiplat.
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#14 Swift_Boss_A
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[QUOTE="Luxen90"] How are they treating them like dirt?

Oh I dunno pushing back the release of their game from Spring to Fall even though it would have been ready to release at the original date, pulling their big announcement from the VGA's in order to use stolen footage for 4orza. You tell me lol.
Sure, but you would end up caring. And no, I don't know the terms of the contract, but knowing MS they might just leave it at that, have the trilogy then the rest of the series will go multiplat.SaltyMeatballs
Beginning of the year I predicted ME2 will be announced for PS3 before the end of the year. It has and I still don't care or feel the need to brag about it considering it's not a game I care about, same if it were to happen to Gears. Now if Dead or Alive Extreme beach volley ball 2 got ported to PS3 I will really rub it in the faces of lemms :D
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[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"][QUOTE="Luxen90"] How are they treating them like dirt?

Oh I dunno pushing back the release of their game from Spring to Fall even though it would have been ready to release at the original date, pulling their big announcement from the VGA's in order to use stolen footage for 4orza. You tell me lol.

Dude.. CliffyB said the decision was made by Epic. But it seems you're an employee so I guess you have inside intel.
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#16 Luxen90
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]Oh I dunno pushing back the release of their game from Spring to Fall even though it would have been ready to release at the original date, pulling their big announcement from the VGA's in order to use stolen footage for 4orza. You tell me lol. Swift_Boss_A



Giving developers more time to publish the game is treating them like dirt? I don't care how "ready" they claimed it is to be release at the original date, but added on extra polish is always a good thing, look at Batman:AA. Why does Gears of War 3 need an trailer at VGAs 2010? It's the highest selling new IP series this gen(could be wrong) I'm sure Epic Games were fine with the decision. If you think Epic Games are treated like dirt I wonder what do you call it when developers are forced to release games that are buggy and not polished.

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#17 SaltyMeatballs
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"][QUOTE="Luxen90"] How are they treating them like dirt?

Oh I dunno pushing back the release of their game from Spring to Fall even though it would have been ready to release at the original date, pulling their big announcement from the VGA's in order to use stolen footage for 4orza. You tell me lol.

Dude.. CliffyB said the decision was made by Epic. But it seems you're an employee so I guess you have inside intel.

I am over the delay now, I am sure it will benefit the game too. Just like Deus Ex HR, even though I am mad about that.
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#18 doom4dukenukem
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epicgames makes too crappy of games for microsoft to purchase them these days.

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#19 BPoole96
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Who is Epic's publisher anyway? It was Midway but they went down. Are they just independent now?

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MS should buy Epic Games.Luxen90

1st party should stop screwing around with the games market, buying up developers; and forcing them to produce exclusive games.

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Cliff praised UC2 for the visuals, textures so they are not rivals. actually Cliff and Insomniac are friends
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#22 djsundowner
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If I were Epic I would have delayed Gears so that more focus can be put on Bulletstorm. If I were Microsoft, I'd be all in favor of this delay since their holiday exclusive line-up for 2011 looks to be lacking. This works out for all parties.

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[QUOTE="Luxen90"]MS should buy Epic Games.AnnoyedDragon

1st party should stop screwing around with the games market, buying up developers; and forcing them to produce exclusive games.

You gotta get 1st party developers from somewhere dude lol. I find that better than making contracts with 3rd parties, then making it exclusive.
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No ps3 won't get Gears games, but you can dream lol.
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Cliff praised UC2 for the visuals, textures so they are not rivals. actually Cliff and Insomniac are friendspoorfamz
Naughty Dog does Uncharted. Insomniac does Resistance and Ratchet and Clank
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#27 Swift_Boss_A
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No ps3 won't get Gears games, but you can dream lol.johny300
Nah not my type of game but that doesn't mean there can't be a discussion about it :)
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#28 Heil68
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Nope, just the Gears trilogy as many others have stated.
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You gotta get 1st party developers from somewhere dude lol. I find that better than making contracts with 3rd parties, then making it exclusive.Luxen90

Why do they have to use 1st party developers in the 1st place? Ah that's right, they are so popular; that no one wants to make big exclusive games for them. So they buy them up and force them.

Then every other platform suffers for it, because a developer that would probably be cross platform was made to go exclusive.

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[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"][QUOTE="Luxen90"] How are they treating them like dirt?waltefmoney
Oh I dunno pushing back the release of their game from Spring to Fall even though it would have been ready to release at the original date, pulling their big announcement from the VGA's in order to use stolen footage for 4orza. You tell me lol.

Dude.. CliffyB said the decision was made by Epic. But it seems you're an employee so I guess you have inside intel.

M$ have also claimed that it was their choice alone, because the Christmas line-up next year is lacking...

So what? People will buy it no matter what, does it truly matter what time of year it comes out?

I'm surprised that M$ didn't try to push it out for this Christmas.

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oh boy to epic regret letting them own the Gears IP

so many lost sales from PC/PS3

HaloinventedFPS

Really? I bought Gears for my PC.

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#32 waltefmoney
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M$ have also claimed that it was their choice alone, because the Christmas line-up next year is lacking...

So what? People will buy it no matter what, does it truly matter what time of year it comes out?

I'm surprised that M$ didn't try to push it out for this Christmas.

cain19822004

I was talking about the delay of the VGA announcement, not the delay of the game.

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#33 Swift_Boss_A
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[QUOTE="cain19822004"]

M$ have also claimed that it was their choice alone, because the Christmas line-up next year is lacking...

So what? People will buy it no matter what, does it truly matter what time of year it comes out?

I'm surprised that M$ didn't try to push it out for this Christmas.

waltefmoney

I was talking about the delay of the VGA announcement, not the delay of the game.

So Epic changed their mined last minute :\ And left MS to show their stolen footage they took for 4orza. I reckon MS did have a hand in preventing the game to be shown, I mean what reason would Epic have to stop publicity for their own title?
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So Epic changed their mined last minute :\ And left MS to show their stolen footage they took for 4orza. I reckon MS did have a hand in preventing the game to be shown, I mean what reason would Epic have to stop publicity for their own title?Swift_Boss_A

Stop calling it stolen footage.. They also paid the Top Gear crew to do a stunt, I guess they stole that too. CliffyB said this "One thing I've learned in the world of video games; it's a war out there," he said, explaining the absence of the promised reveal. Now do you see why they delayed the announcement?

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#35 Swift_Boss_A
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[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]So Epic changed their mined last minute :\ And left MS to show their stolen footage they took for 4orza. I reckon MS did have a hand in preventing the game to be shown, I mean what reason would Epic have to stop publicity for their own title?waltefmoney

Stop calling it stolen footage.. They also paid the Top Gear crew to do a stunt, I guess they stole that too. CliffyB said this "One thing I've learned in the world of video games; it's a war out there," he said, explaining the absence of the promised reveal. Now do you see why they delayed the announcement?

Fair enough now back off :P But MS is really treating them like a..... you know what I mean lol. Gears could have released in April and done well with minimal competition because Fall 2011 is packed!
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]So Epic changed their mined last minute :\ And left MS to show their stolen footage they took for 4orza. I reckon MS did have a hand in preventing the game to be shown, I mean what reason would Epic have to stop publicity for their own title?Swift_Boss_A

Stop calling it stolen footage.. They also paid the Top Gear crew to do a stunt, I guess they stole that too. CliffyB said this "One thing I've learned in the world of video games; it's a war out there," he said, explaining the absence of the promised reveal. Now do you see why they delayed the announcement?

Fair enough now back off :P But MS is really treating them like a..... you know what I mean lol. Gears could have released in April and done well with minimal competition because Fall 2011 is packed!

And again, giving them more time to work on their game is treating them bad? You know what's bad treatment? Pressuring a dev to release a game as soon as possible. That's bad treatment. Giving a dev more time to work on their game is not.
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]So Epic changed their mined last minute :\ And left MS to show their stolen footage they took for 4orza. I reckon MS did have a hand in preventing the game to be shown, I mean what reason would Epic have to stop publicity for their own title?Swift_Boss_A

Stop calling it stolen footage.. They also paid the Top Gear crew to do a stunt, I guess they stole that too. CliffyB said this "One thing I've learned in the world of video games; it's a war out there," he said, explaining the absence of the promised reveal. Now do you see why they delayed the announcement?

Fair enough now back off :P But MS is really treating them like a..... you know what I mean lol. Gears could have released in April and done well with minimal competition because Fall 2011 is packed!

i still don't understand how is pushing back the game for fall 2011 mean they are treating Epic like dirt. For all we know microsoft just did Epic a favor and gave them more time to improve on the game.
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#38 warmaster670
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Does anyone really give a crap about epic anymore? i mean theve only been making the same thing for 10 years.

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[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

oh boy to epic regret letting them own the Gears IP

so many lost sales from PC/PS3

thrillh0

Really? I bought Gears for my PC.

Lol,not the sharpest tool in the shed.
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I wish epic would make another UT with just the PC in mind.
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#41 Swift_Boss_A
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i still don't understand how is pushing back the game for fall 2011 mean they are treating Epic like dirt. For all we know microsoft just did Epic a favor and gave them more time to improve on the game.lawlessx
More time? Why not give them 2 more years to improve on the game! Gears 3 would have been ready for April no doubt, and it would have sold a lot becasue there will be minimal competition compared to releasing in the fall. Regardless I don't really give a damn. This topic is more to do with if Gears trilogy appears on PS3 or not before the end of this gen. Just read the original post, lol
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#42 Swift_Boss_A
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I wish epic would make another UT with just the PC in mind. SAGE_OF_FIRE
Epic has been hating on the PC market for years now, I doubt they will go back to it. They're on MS pay roll now.
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#43 nhh18
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It does. People can fly boy hates the ps triple

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#44 AnnoyedDragon
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Epic has been hating on the PC market for years now, I doubt they will go back to it. They're on MS pay roll now.Swift_Boss_A

Correction, the head of the Gears of War department has been hating on PC for years. Epic Games as a whole is largely on good terms with the PC market, the head of Epic Games has even said to ignore what he says.

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#45 Swift_Boss_A
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[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]Epic has been hating on the PC market for years now, I doubt they will go back to it. They're on MS pay roll now.AnnoyedDragon

Correction, the head of the Gears of War department has been hating on PC for years. Epic Games as a whole is largely on good terms with the PC market, the head of Epic Games has even said to ignore what he says.

I stand corrected :)
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="cain19822004"]

M$ have also claimed that it was their choice alone, because the Christmas line-up next year is lacking...

So what? People will buy it no matter what, does it truly matter what time of year it comes out?

I'm surprised that M$ didn't try to push it out for this Christmas.

Swift_Boss_A

I was talking about the delay of the VGA announcement, not the delay of the game.

So Epic changed their mined last minute :\ And left MS to show their stolen footage they took for 4orza. I reckon MS did have a hand in preventing the game to be shown, I mean what reason would Epic have to stop publicity for their own title?

so Media Molecule are being treated like dirt. Zipper Interactive are getting treated like dirt. Insomniac are getting treated like dirt.

doesn't seem that MS can get by with anything unless it involves them mistreating a developer. if they pushed them to get it released this year, people would claim they're being treated like dirt. mindboggling

the reason? No one really knows with the VGA thing. maybe MS felt they've shown off enough Gears 3 footage already. seeing as Forza 4 was never officially announced, maybe they wanted to swap out their VGA spot to announce their new title, instead of the one that's been showing off gameplay footage for a while. unless there were plans of a Forza 4 reveal pre-VGA that I don't know about. if not, legitmate idea, nonetheless.

and it's already known Epic is taking advantage of the delay. seeing as they've been excited to instill dedicated server support and have an MP beta before release.

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what?!

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#48 savagetwinkie
Member since 2008 • 7981 Posts
[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"][QUOTE="funsohng"]NO Gears of War franchise, however, is.SaltyMeatballs
Really? I thought Epic just had a 2 game deal/contract regarding Gears, Im not sure but I heard it hear in SW with a link like 2 years, which doesn't prove anything lol but still. I always figured Gears is Epic's IP but funded by MS.

MS has a deal for the trilogy, Gears is Epics, but as long as this game is part of the trilogy MS calls the shots.

this, i believe gears is epic's IP but M$ partly own the story/character of the trilogy, or at least publishing rights,
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#49 shinrabanshou
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so Media Molecule are being treated like dirt. Zipper Interactive are getting treated like dirt. Insomniac are getting treated like dirt.

HavocV3

The Epic release delay was a business decision.

Media Molecule's delay wasn't business related it was development related.

As it seems SOCOM's was.

I'm not sure which Insomniac game Sony apparently strongarmed into releasing early or late.

A better example is Quantic Dream, and Sony getting them to make Move-support at the expense of more DLC. That was a **** way to treat a third party partner.

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MS is the publisher, of course they're gonna have a saying where it's relased, that much is obvious. And considering the delay means dedicated servers + Beta, I don't see how it can be considered a bad move.