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#1 acekall
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So yeah, I bought Gears 2 couple days after launch and I cant see how it scored a 9.0 considering how the multiplayer is broken.

I have been playing multiplayer constantly (no singeplayer) and its realy broken. Im not talking about the chainsaws or that kinde stuff but everything else.

Lately I've been getting the 'host-connection time-out error' and it kicks me outta the game for no apparent reason. Also most of the time when I shoot someone pointblank with the shotgun he doesnt die, but when other people do it to me I die instantly. Plus lag is horrible. Sometimes connection is good but sometimes when shooting shotgun bullets appear one to 3 seconds later. Its not my connection, cause I have 20 mbps down and 1 mbps up and have no trouble when playing halo 2 or 3. Hell even halo 2 had better netcoding. There are way more issues like boomshield glitch etc.

How could Epic fail so bady. I thought after 2 years of Gears 1 and 10 years Unreal tournament experience Epic would know how to properly netcode a game. Apparentlt they dont, and I dont expect this to change in Gears of war 3.

BTW host advantage is still visible.

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...I must have lucked out or something, because I apparently got the one copy with little to no issues that I love and play around an hour or two of a day at least.
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...I must have lucked out or something, because I apparently got the one copy with apparently little to no issues that I love and play around an hour or two of a day at least.Vaasman
repeated.
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...I must have lucked out or something, because I apparently got the one copy with little to no issues that I love and play around an hour or two of a day at least.Vaasman
hmmmm ditto
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#5 acekall
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maybe its bc im from EU and almost all the players are from US. I gets laggy as hell
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#6 Vaasman
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maybe its bc im from EU and almost all the players are from US. I gets laggy as hellacekall
Are you playing on an american account? That increases the ratio of american to EU games.
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#8 jessesalinas
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its a really great game.better than the first IMHO.
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#9 SpruceCaboose
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its a really great game.better than the first IMHO.jessesalinas
Agreed with this whole-heartedly.
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looks like you are the only person having this problem.
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#11 sirk1264
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Gears 2's MP is fine for me for the most part. I have encountered some cheaters yesterday on a game of Guardian on Mansion where one guy lagged the entire game and me and my buddies were getting killed by an invisible guy. It was like one second i'm standing there and the next second my body explodes with no one around. Besides that my games have been pretty much lag free.
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#12 klidron02
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Well I don't like either of the games in general.
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Gears of War 2 has been a complete disaster. Matchmaking has essentially ruined Gears of War multiplayer. If it is to be included in ANY game, an alternate method of selecting games must be available (the private games given by Gears 2 is not good enough - what do I do if I have no friends playing Gears 2?). I do not want to play against people from the other side of the world, and they do not want to play me, because we both know that one of us will have a good connection, and the other will have a laggy connection. Us gamers want a choice. The shotgun/lancer was very well balanced in Gears 1. There was a lot of skill involved in using both of those weapons, however now the shotgun is a much weaker weapon overall. Being shot while revving the chainsaw does not stop you, making the chainsaw more effective, and requiring less skill. Wall bouncing is better (you don't get stuck on walls), however this has been negated by the fact that the shotgun is not as powerful anymore, thus making wall bouncing much less effective. Host advantage is less noticeable than Gears 1, but it is still noticeable. It is a tragedy that we have waited so long for Gears 2, and problems like this still exist. Dedicated servers should have been made for the game. Overall, Gears 2 is a much less skillful game, and is less balanced than Gears 1 was. Hopefully this will change, as the developers have said they are looking in to the problems and may release patches targeted at gameplay elements. For the moment though, Gears 2 is a complete disaster.
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[QUOTE="DustAmulet"] Overall, Gears 2 is a much less skillful game, and is less balanced than Gears 1 was. Hopefully this will change, as the developers have said they are looking in to the problems and may release patches targeted at gameplay elements. For the moment though, Gears 2 is a complete disaster.

How was Gears 1 balanced at all? Gears 1 was the terrible online game, IMO. Man, shotgunners and glitchers all day.
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maybe its bc im from EU and almost all the players are from US. I gets laggy as hellacekall
ohh, i think epic needs to give you guys the options to look for EU hosts only, whenever i get connected to someone from the UK or Australia, i literally wanna shot myself
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#16 blackace
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maybe its bc im from EU and almost all the players are from US. I gets laggy as hellacekall
Well, that's defintiely part of your problem. You should be able to play against EU players as well with little to no lag.
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...I must have lucked out or something, because I apparently got the one copy with little to no issues that I love and play around an hour or two of a day at least.Vaasman
Enough said thread closed. Game did lag now it doesn't i get into games faster then halo and experience no lag. Maybe it is because your from Europe but i don't know i have a friend who lives in Holland and another that lives in Sweden they both say it's hard to find a game but don't lag while in it.
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[QUOTE="DustAmulet"] Overall, Gears 2 is a much less skillful game, and is less balanced than Gears 1 was. .

gears of war balanced? :lol: i must have played the wrong game
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="DustAmulet"] Overall, Gears 2 is a much less skillful game, and is less balanced than Gears 1 was. Hopefully this will change, as the developers have said they are looking in to the problems and may release patches targeted at gameplay elements. For the moment though, Gears 2 is a complete disaster.

How was Gears 1 balanced at all? Gears 1 was the terrible online game, IMO. Man, shotgunners and glitchers all day.

If anything, the lancer was slightly stronger than the shotgun (but it is very close). Yes glitching is rampant in both Gears 1 and 2. That doesn't make it unbalanced (those players are simply cheating by doing things that are not in the scope of allowable actions in the game).
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Gears 2's MP is fine for me for the most part. I have encountered some cheaters yesterday on a game of Guardian on Mansion where one guy lagged the entire game and me and my buddies were getting killed by an invisible guy. It was like one second i'm standing there and the next second my body explodes with no one around. Besides that my games have been pretty much lag free. sirk1264
thats done using a lagswitch if im not mistaken, i guess the host had a lagswitch and made his buddies invinsible
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="DustAmulet"] Overall, Gears 2 is a much less skillful game, and is less balanced than Gears 1 was. Hopefully this will change, as the developers have said they are looking in to the problems and may release patches targeted at gameplay elements. For the moment though, Gears 2 is a complete disaster.DustAmulet
How was Gears 1 balanced at all? Gears 1 was the terrible online game, IMO. Man, shotgunners and glitchers all day.

If anything, the lancer was slightly stronger than the shotgun (but it is very close). Yes glitching is rampant in both Gears 1 and 2. That doesn't make it unbalanced (those players are simply cheating by doing things that are not in the scope of allowable actions in the game).

I have yet to see a glitcher, i know there is glitches but to actually execute them takes time. Also the shotgun is better, it's more unaccurate not weaker. If you actually tried it you would find out when shot form the hip it will do less damage because some bullets will not hit the target. The lancer is way stronger then the first. The sniper is perfect. Boomshot is weaker then it should be but whatever better then noobs fighting in front of the respawn. I believe epic nailed every gun, and critics think so as well. Only complaint is the chainsaw needs to have a longer start up, theres no point in shooting the guy anymore if he revs it up faster then a shot gun blast.

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[QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="DustAmulet"] Overall, Gears 2 is a much less skillful game, and is less balanced than Gears 1 was. .

gears of war balanced? :lol: i must have played the wrong game

Either that or you did not learn how to use the weapons. Weapons such as the boomshot were clearly stronger, however must be fought for by both teams, who have the same amount of players and start with the same weapons. If your team did not secure the power weapons, then you deserve to be at a disadvantage. Almost all maps were well balanced.
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I find it strange how GS gives x360 games with broken mp a free pass but not with ps3 games
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Your mention of the boomshield glitch leads me to believe your playing it quite alot. The question is, if your experience is bad, why do you continue to play it?
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[QUOTE="DustAmulet"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] How was Gears 1 balanced at all? Gears 1 was the terrible online game, IMO. Man, shotgunners and glitchers all day.DivinitySkate

If anything, the lancer was slightly stronger than the shotgun (but it is very close). Yes glitching is rampant in both Gears 1 and 2. That doesn't make it unbalanced (those players are simply cheating by doing things that are not in the scope of allowable actions in the game).

I have yet to see a glitcher, i know there is glitches but to actually execute them takes time. Also the shotgun is better, it's more unaccurate not weaker. If you actually tried it you would find out when shot form the hip it will do less damage because some bullets will not hit the target. The lancer is way stronger then the first. The sniper is perfect. Boomshot is weaker then it should be but whatever better then noobs fighting in front of the respawn. I believe epic nailed every gun, and critics think so as well. Only complaint is the chainsaw needs to have a longer start up, theres no point in shooting the guy anymore if he revs it up faster then a shot gun blast.

I have 'actually tried it' (the shotgun). I realize that blindfiring the shotgun is essentially useless. This is one reason why the shotgun is a weaker weapon. In Gears 1, the balance was very good between shotgun and lancer. There was a lot of skill involved in knowing what weapon to use in what situation. In Gears 2, the balance is favored much more toward the lancer.
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I find it strange how GS gives x360 games with broken mp a free pass but not with ps3 gamesZoomZoom2490

Really? Because they know xbox live isn't a dedicated server and all networking issues can be fixed with patches. Also because it's not broken game critics know this noobs don't they whine and scream because epic fixed every loop hole making gears not a cover based game.

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[QUOTE="DivinitySkate"]

[QUOTE="DustAmulet"] If anything, the lancer was slightly stronger than the shotgun (but it is very close). Yes glitching is rampant in both Gears 1 and 2. That doesn't make it unbalanced (those players are simply cheating by doing things that are not in the scope of allowable actions in the game).DustAmulet

I have yet to see a glitcher, i know there is glitches but to actually execute them takes time. Also the shotgun is better, it's more unaccurate not weaker. If you actually tried it you would find out when shot form the hip it will do less damage because some bullets will not hit the target. The lancer is way stronger then the first. The sniper is perfect. Boomshot is weaker then it should be but whatever better then noobs fighting in front of the respawn. I believe epic nailed every gun, and critics think so as well. Only complaint is the chainsaw needs to have a longer start up, theres no point in shooting the guy anymore if he revs it up faster then a shot gun blast.

I have 'actually tried it' (the shotgun). I realize that blindfiring the shotgun is essentially useless. This is one reason why the shotgun is a weaker weapon. In Gears 1, the balance was very good between shotgun and lancer. There was a lot of skill involved in knowing what weapon to use in what situation. In Gears 2, the balance is favored much more toward the lancer.

To be honest i think they lead more to the hammerburst 5 shots to the head and your down.
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Your mention of the boomshield glitch leads me to believe your playing it quite alot. The question is, if your experience is bad, why do you continue to play it?Burnsmiesta
cause its fun :) But horrible at the same time :(
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[QUOTE="DustAmulet"][QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="DustAmulet"] Overall, Gears 2 is a much less skillful game, and is less balanced than Gears 1 was. .

gears of war balanced? :lol: i must have played the wrong game

Either that or you did not learn how to use the weapons. Weapons such as the boomshot were clearly stronger, however must be fought for by both teams, who have the same amount of players and start with the same weapons. If your team did not secure the power weapons, then you deserve to be at a disadvantage. Almost all maps were well balanced.

i know how to use each weapon in gears 1, im extremly good with the torque bow and shotgun, and im extremely glad that the shotgun rushers are gone for good and it actually takes team work to win a round or so. Everyone starts with the same weapons in gears 2, fighting for the power weapons its nothing new to gaming.
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Epic tried TOO hard to make the game different, for the fact it is a sequal...adding stopping power was good, but did they reall have to slow down the shotgun and make it feel so dam heavy? The stomping power is good enough, for those rolling and shotty noobs. Now they just went overboard and made the chainsaw over powered. Everything should have stayed the same, with the addition of stopping power and extra melees, etc. It just feels broken now, nothing but chainsaws and frags....awful.

IMO, those who complained about the first game, simply sucked.

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Epic tried TOO hard to make the game different, for the fact it is a sequal...adding stopping power was good, but did they reall have to slow down the shotgun and make it feel so dam heavy? The stomping power is good enough, for those rolling and shotty noobs. Now they just went overboard and made the chainsaw over powered. Everything should have stayed the same, with the addition of stopping power and extra melees, etc. It just feels broken now, nothing but chainsaws and frags....awful.

IMO, those who complained about the first game, simply sucked.

Eyezonmii
Lol ironic that everything you stated was nerfed to play the game how it's suppose to i think you got it the wrong way people who complain about the second simply suck.
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Epic tried TOO hard to make the game different, for the fact it is a sequal...adding stopping power was good, but did they reall have to slow down the shotgun and make it feel so dam heavy? The stomping power is good enough, for those rolling and shotty noobs. Now they just went overboard and made the chainsaw over powered. Everything should have stayed the same, with the addition of stopping power and extra melees, etc. It just feels broken now, nothing but chainsaws and frags....awful.

IMO, those who complained about the first game, simply sucked.

Eyezonmii
The game is about using cover and tactics. People didn't do this at all in the game. It was a shotgun fest where everyone would run up to each other and just use the shotgun all day. Decreasing the shotguns effectiveness and increasing the lancer made it more tactical.
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So I take it you didn't like it yet it took you this long to say somthing about it, if you don't like it then sell it on ebay.
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[QUOTE="DustAmulet"]Gears of War 2 has been a complete disaster. Matchmaking has essentially ruined Gears of War multiplayer. If it is to be included in ANY game, an alternate method of selecting games must be available (the private games given by Gears 2 is not good enough - what do I do if I have no friends playing Gears 2?). I do not want to play against people from the other side of the world, and they do not want to play me, because we both know that one of us will have a good connection, and the other will have a laggy connection. Us gamers want a choice. The shotgun/lancer was very well balanced in Gears 1. There was a lot of skill involved in using both of those weapons, however now the shotgun is a much weaker weapon overall. Being shot while revving the chainsaw does not stop you, making the chainsaw more effective, and requiring less skill. Wall bouncing is better (you don't get stuck on walls), however this has been negated by the fact that the shotgun is not as powerful anymore, thus making wall bouncing much less effective. Host advantage is less noticeable than Gears 1, but it is still noticeable. It is a tragedy that we have waited so long for Gears 2, and problems like this still exist. Dedicated servers should have been made for the game. Overall, Gears 2 is a much less skillful game, and is less balanced than Gears 1 was. Hopefully this will change, as the developers have said they are looking in to the problems and may release patches targeted at gameplay elements. For the moment though, Gears 2 is a complete disaster.

the shotgun was not balanced at all i think gears 2 has the shotgun at a good spot right now. I think the lancer should do more damage. Only thing is the shotty should stop the chainsaw.
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Its alot better then Resistance 2 is

That game sucked

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Epic tried TOO hard to make the game different, for the fact it is a sequal...adding stopping power was good, but did they reall have to slow down the shotgun and make it feel so dam heavy? The stomping power is good enough, for those rolling and shotty noobs. Now they just went overboard and made the chainsaw over powered. Everything should have stayed the same, with the addition of stopping power and extra melees, etc. It just feels broken now, nothing but chainsaws and frags....awful.

IMO, those who complained about the first game, simply sucked.

Eyezonmii
do you wanna test that theory?
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The only thing that failed here was this thread
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[QUOTE="StartARiot7"][QUOTE="DustAmulet"]Gears of War 2 has been a complete disaster. Matchmaking has essentially ruined Gears of War multiplayer. If it is to be included in ANY game, an alternate method of selecting games must be available (the private games given by Gears 2 is not good enough - what do I do if I have no friends playing Gears 2?). I do not want to play against people from the other side of the world, and they do not want to play me, because we both know that one of us will have a good connection, and the other will have a laggy connection. Us gamers want a choice. The shotgun/lancer was very well balanced in Gears 1. There was a lot of skill involved in using both of those weapons, however now the shotgun is a much weaker weapon overall. Being shot while revving the chainsaw does not stop you, making the chainsaw more effective, and requiring less skill. Wall bouncing is better (you don't get stuck on walls), however this has been negated by the fact that the shotgun is not as powerful anymore, thus making wall bouncing much less effective. Host advantage is less noticeable than Gears 1, but it is still noticeable. It is a tragedy that we have waited so long for Gears 2, and problems like this still exist. Dedicated servers should have been made for the game. Overall, Gears 2 is a much less skillful game, and is less balanced than Gears 1 was. Hopefully this will change, as the developers have said they are looking in to the problems and may release patches targeted at gameplay elements. For the moment though, Gears 2 is a complete disaster.

the shotgun was not balanced at all i think gears 2 has the shotgun at a good spot right now. I think the lancer should do more damage. Only thing is the shotty should stop the chainsaw.

I also think that shooting someone revving the chainsaw should stop the chainsaw. You are wrong about the shotgun balancing though, and would probably be destroyed by any good player if you think that way. The lancer does enough damage as it is.
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well thats your opinion
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#41 djsifer01
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As ive said before if your planing on doing anything on GEARS2 other than CAMPAIGN dont buy it. THATS ALL IT WORTH.
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When I use the shotgun i shoot then roll back.
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[QUOTE="DustAmulet"][QUOTE="StartARiot7"][QUOTE="DustAmulet"]Gears of War 2 has been a complete disaster. Matchmaking has essentially ruined Gears of War multiplayer. If it is to be included in ANY game, an alternate method of selecting games must be available (the private games given by Gears 2 is not good enough - what do I do if I have no friends playing Gears 2?). I do not want to play against people from the other side of the world, and they do not want to play me, because we both know that one of us will have a good connection, and the other will have a laggy connection. Us gamers want a choice. The shotgun/lancer was very well balanced in Gears 1. There was a lot of skill involved in using both of those weapons, however now the shotgun is a much weaker weapon overall. Being shot while revving the chainsaw does not stop you, making the chainsaw more effective, and requiring less skill. Wall bouncing is better (you don't get stuck on walls), however this has been negated by the fact that the shotgun is not as powerful anymore, thus making wall bouncing much less effective. Host advantage is less noticeable than Gears 1, but it is still noticeable. It is a tragedy that we have waited so long for Gears 2, and problems like this still exist. Dedicated servers should have been made for the game. Overall, Gears 2 is a much less skillful game, and is less balanced than Gears 1 was. Hopefully this will change, as the developers have said they are looking in to the problems and may release patches targeted at gameplay elements. For the moment though, Gears 2 is a complete disaster.

the shotgun was not balanced at all i think gears 2 has the shotgun at a good spot right now. I think the lancer should do more damage. Only thing is the shotty should stop the chainsaw.

I also think that shooting someone revving the chainsaw should stop the chainsaw. You are wrong about the shotgun balancing though, and would probably be destroyed by any good player if you think that way. The lancer does enough damage as it is.

You kidding me? In Gears 1 everything that wasn't a Longshot or Shotgun (or didn't explode) was worthless. The Lancer? Crap. Pistol? Laughable. Hammerburst? Might as well just shoot yourself. The weapons are far more balanced this time since now you have an arsenal of guns that all have their own purposes and are useful, not 3 guns that are useful and a bunch of worthless toys :|
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Chainsaw is deff unbalanced but the hammerburst is > than the Lancer
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cut- The shotgun/lancer was very well balanced in Gears 1. There was a lot of skill involved in using both of those weapons, however now the shotgun is a much weaker weapon overall. Being shot while revving the chainsaw does not stop you, making the chainsaw more effective, and requiring less skill. Wall bouncing is better (you don't get stuck on walls), however this has been negated by the fact that the shotgun is not as powerful anymore, thus making wall bouncing much less effective. cut- DustAmulet
Being shot by a shotgun stuns you when u charge at someone with a chainsaw, automatic weapons also hold you in place/ significantly slow you down if your constantly getting shot.
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#46 Skittles_McGee
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Chainsaw is deff unbalanced but the hammerburst is > than the Lancer SAGE_OF_FIRE
They're both useful. Which is different from Gears 1... you know, when they were useless :P
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#47 Syferonik
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YEAHHHHHHH shotty lags are totaly retarded....stoped playing multiplayer after 3days and this is rly sad becouse i played gears 1 *as host* for at least 9months.Poeples cry about the host advantage but all i want is freaking play normaly not OMFG HAXOR bullets lag
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[QUOTE="StartARiot7"][QUOTE="DustAmulet"]Gears of War 2 has been a complete disaster. Matchmaking has essentially ruined Gears of War multiplayer. If it is to be included in ANY game, an alternate method of selecting games must be available (the private games given by Gears 2 is not good enough - what do I do if I have no friends playing Gears 2?). I do not want to play against people from the other side of the world, and they do not want to play me, because we both know that one of us will have a good connection, and the other will have a laggy connection. Us gamers want a choice. The shotgun/lancer was very well balanced in Gears 1. There was a lot of skill involved in using both of those weapons, however now the shotgun is a much weaker weapon overall. Being shot while revving the chainsaw does not stop you, making the chainsaw more effective, and requiring less skill. Wall bouncing is better (you don't get stuck on walls), however this has been negated by the fact that the shotgun is not as powerful anymore, thus making wall bouncing much less effective. Host advantage is less noticeable than Gears 1, but it is still noticeable. It is a tragedy that we have waited so long for Gears 2, and problems like this still exist. Dedicated servers should have been made for the game. Overall, Gears 2 is a much less skillful game, and is less balanced than Gears 1 was. Hopefully this will change, as the developers have said they are looking in to the problems and may release patches targeted at gameplay elements. For the moment though, Gears 2 is a complete disaster.DustAmulet
the shotgun was not balanced at all i think gears 2 has the shotgun at a good spot right now. I think the lancer should do more damage. Only thing is the shotty should stop the chainsaw.

I also think that shooting someone revving the chainsaw should stop the chainsaw. You are wrong about the shotgun balancing though, and would probably be destroyed by any good player if you think that way. The lancer does enough damage as it is.

no that was the problem in gears 1 it was a shotgun fest and was lame. I am glad to see not as many shotguns now.

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#49 fenwickhotmail
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[QUOTE="DustAmulet"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="DustAmulet"] Overall, Gears 2 is a much less skillful game, and is less balanced than Gears 1 was. Hopefully this will change, as the developers have said they are looking in to the problems and may release patches targeted at gameplay elements. For the moment though, Gears 2 is a complete disaster.

How was Gears 1 balanced at all? Gears 1 was the terrible online game, IMO. Man, shotgunners and glitchers all day.

If anything, the lancer was slightly stronger than the shotgun (but it is very close). Yes glitching is rampant in both Gears 1 and 2. That doesn't make it unbalanced (those players are simply cheating by doing things that are not in the scope of allowable actions in the game).

Instead of "unbalanced" I found a "Gears of War" in my dictionary. If you don't think this I don't think we're playing the same game.
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#50 fenwickhotmail
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As ive said before if your planing on doing anything on GEARS2 other than CAMPAIGN dont buy it. THATS ALL IT WORTH.djsifer01
No, private multi-player matches, co-op campaign and Horde mode are all good.