Gears of War 2 will prove that Xbox 360 is getting old

Fanboys might not like it, but I will be proven right. I have seen the vidoes and read many interviews, and Gears of War 2 will fail one major test: Will Gears of War 2 be as technologically advanced as Metal Gear Solid 4? By technologically advanced I am talking about the combination of graphics, sounds, and other gaming technogolies.

I am quite sure that Gears of War 2 will not be as technologically advanced as MGS4. Why is this important? Because it means that Xbox 360 is aging. Remember, Epic is the developer of Gears 2, and Epic is currently the best Xbox 360 developer. Remember also that Epic has one year and a half extra experience working with Xbox 360, the console that everyone knows is easier to develop for.

If Epic can't make Gears of War 2 as technologically impressive as Metal Gear Solid 4, it means only one thing: Xbox 360 is getting old, unable to keep up with the PS3.

Here he goes again, another well written trollfest.Il_Exile_lI

MGS4 is NOT a technologically advanced game compared to Gears of War 2. It's amazing in the sense that it achieves it's cinematics without CGI but the games engine and stuff like that but sometimes it looks downright sloppy. I love MGS4 but the graphics aren't the messiah.

Gears of War 2 has improved heavily on the original Gears, sharper textures, better gore effects, improved animations, larger scope, varied enviroments with stronger lighting, and of course more units on screen. We've seen battles with literally 50+ of units on screen. That's amazing for a game like Gears.
Toriko42

LOL. Didn't you read Gamespot's review of MGS4? Remmeber, Gears of War 2 is made on Xbox 360, which is a weaker console that uses last-gen DVD9 and lacks a standard hard-disk drive.

Will you be disappointed when Gamespot review Gears 2 and does not say it is the most advanced console game ever made? I mean Gears 2 is too monochomatic for it to be a graphics king, let alone the most "advanced" king.

What boundaries will Gears 2 push? I am pretty sure Resistance 2 will push more boundaries (boss sizes, multiplayer sizes, most content for a shooter, etc.) than Gears 2.

Gears of War is still to date the best online game( besides a few glitches) , and I expect a better and deeper game modes in GOW 2. balleralex90

No, just... NO!

I don't see how people still think Gears of War looks mindblowing, I finished beating MGS4 for like the 3rd time two nights ago and it just looks amazing....

Played Gears of War last night, and yea didn't do anything for me....the graphics are good just nothing too impressive anymore especially after playing MGS4 just the other night before popping in Gears of War.

"If Epic can't make Gears of War 2 as technologically impressive as Metal Gear Solid 4, it means only one thing: Xbox 360 is getting old, unable to keep up with the PS3."

Yes, and your Ps3 can't keep up with my PC, so why dont you shove it and take a hike.

I don't see how people still think Gears of War looks mindblowing, I finished beating MGS4 for like the 3rd time two nights ago and it just looks amazing....

Played Gears of War last night, and yea didn't do anything for me....the graphics are good just nothing too impressive anymore especially after playing MGS4 just the other night before popping in Gears of War.

W1NGMAN-

I found MGS4 to be rather underwhelming to me. It stood out in two areas IMO, and that was the cutscenes (which I found stunning) and the sound, which was fantastic. The game visuals during real gameplay, not so impressive to me.

The Gears of War series was created to bank on the pre-pubescent, homophobic I'm-cool-cuz-I-got-a-360-and-want-to-look-older-and-this-game-has-lots-of-gore crowd. In reality, it's a pretty shallow game that rounds out Xbox's already overdone and overcrowded shooter library.BobbyBobby85

How exactly is Gears homophobic?

Lemme ask you this can you have fun on metal gear online? NO, gears is a tactical 3rd person shooter hardcore shooting methods. MGS is stealth which is usually story limited. Oh and to be honest MGS went TOO far on physics to the point it's UN REALISTIC. Not to mention it's cover system is utter crap. In real life if you moved that slow and ran at that speed you would die in a matter of minutes. DivinitySkate

If you are looking for realism, you might be out of luck with any of the blockbuster games, and certainly most movies as well.

these threads are tiresome, i'm starting to think these boards are filled with you know what.

anyways, its been proven that both the 360 and PS3 have similar hardware strength, with some minor advantages here and there, what your saying is just silly, for the fact that what ever the PS3 can handle, the 360 could too. Many think the 360's GPU is slightly advances, and the friendly hardware helps devs to further push the console.

if Gears of War 2 was on the PS3, it would most likely be pushing the PS3 A LOT too. keep that in mind.

[QUOTE="BobbyBobby85"]The Gears of War series was created to bank on the pre-pubescent, homophobic I'm-cool-cuz-I-got-a-360-and-want-to-look-older-and-this-game-has-lots-of-gore crowd. In reality, it's a pretty shallow game that rounds out Xbox's already overdone and overcrowded shooter library.SpruceCaboose

How exactly is Gears homophobic?

i.e. gamers who are too affraid and insecure to play teh kiddie gamez. They have to compensate somehow don't they?

[QUOTE="BobbyBobby85"]The Gears of War series was created to bank on the pre-pubescent, homophobic I'm-cool-cuz-I-got-a-360-and-want-to-look-older-and-this-game-has-lots-of-gore crowd. In reality, it's a pretty shallow game that rounds out Xbox's already overdone and overcrowded shooter library.SpruceCaboose

How exactly is Gears homophobic?

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="BobbyBobby85"]The Gears of War series was created to bank on the pre-pubescent, homophobic I'm-cool-cuz-I-got-a-360-and-want-to-look-older-and-this-game-has-lots-of-gore crowd. In reality, it's a pretty shallow game that rounds out Xbox's already overdone and overcrowded shooter library.BobbyBobby85

How exactly is Gears homophobic?

i.e. gamers who are too affraid and insecure to play teh kiddie gamez. They have to compensate somehow don't they?

So now game preference dictates sexuality? You are stretching past the breaking point.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="BobbyBobby85"]The Gears of War series was created to bank on the pre-pubescent, homophobic I'm-cool-cuz-I-got-a-360-and-want-to-look-older-and-this-game-has-lots-of-gore crowd. In reality, it's a pretty shallow game that rounds out Xbox's already overdone and overcrowded shooter library.flatline711

How exactly is Gears homophobic?

That would be homoerotic, not homophobic.

EDIT: Never mind I see your point. I am sleepy. Apologies and touche.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="BobbyBobby85"]The Gears of War series was created to bank on the pre-pubescent, homophobic I'm-cool-cuz-I-got-a-360-and-want-to-look-older-and-this-game-has-lots-of-gore crowd. In reality, it's a pretty shallow game that rounds out Xbox's already overdone and overcrowded shooter library.BobbyBobby85

How exactly is Gears homophobic?

i.e. gamers who are too affraid and insecure to play teh kiddie gamez. They have to compensate somehow don't they?

another thing, there's no doubt that epic have pushed the 360 a lot, considering what they are trying to achieve. common sense tells u that there is only so much u can do on a fixed console. so if gears 3 was on the 360 (which is very unlikely) it wouldn't look different at all. thats why usually 2 sequals are made for one generation.

but over time when better tools are out and more can be done, with shortcuts and tricks, you can always improve on something. Halo 1 had more poly counts on Master chieft, than the sequal. but thanks to some improved tools and what not, you can get the same look.

a lot also depends on the developers and there abilitie to make great art and engines.

The Gears of War series was created to bank on the pre-pubescent, homophobic I'm-cool-cuz-I-got-a-360-and-want-to-look-older-and-this-game-has-lots-of-gore crowd. In reality, it's a pretty shallow game that rounds out Xbox's already overdone and overcrowded shooter library.BobbyBobby85

The last sentence I kinda agree with but the BS you wrote before it makes it sound like someone got your emotions up during an XBL match or something.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="BobbyBobby85"]The Gears of War series was created to bank on the pre-pubescent, homophobic I'm-cool-cuz-I-got-a-360-and-want-to-look-older-and-this-game-has-lots-of-gore crowd. In reality, it's a pretty shallow game that rounds out Xbox's already overdone and overcrowded shooter library.BobbyBobby85

How exactly is Gears homophobic?

i.e. gamers who are too affraid and insecure to play teh kiddie gamez. They have to compensate somehow don't they?

Yes that must be it. It's not because they aren't into those type of games.

To Spruce, Epic obviously killed off the only two homosexual characters due to their homophobic nature. For the record, I'm not being serious about this. I have no idea if any Gears characters happen to be homosexual. Just incase people decide to get into some debate with me. :oflatline711

I know you weren't serious, and I got what you were saying after I posted, that is why I edited my comment. I was just having some laughs.

Fanboys might not like it, but I will be proven right. I have seen the vidoes and read many interviews, and Gears of War 2 will fail one major test: Will Gears of War 2 be as technologically advanced as Metal Gear Solid 4? By technologically advanced I am talking about the combination of graphics, sounds, and other gaming technogolies.

I am quite sure that Gears of War 2 will not be as technologically advanced as MGS4. Why is this important? Because it means that Xbox 360 is aging. Remember, Epic is the developer of Gears 2, and Epic is currently the best Xbox 360 developer. Remember also that Epic has one year and a half extra experience working with Xbox 360, the console that everyone knows is easier to develop for.

If Epic can't make Gears of War 2 as technologically impressive as Metal Gear Solid 4, it means only one thing: Xbox 360 is getting old, unable to keep up with the PS3.

Sihanouk

Define technologically advanced? You mean like destructable environments? or water effects? or what are we talking about exactly? I mean if gears is more fun, its better. it already looks better...

[QUOTE="Toriko42"]MGS4 is NOT a technologically advanced game compared to Gears of War 2. It's amazing in the sense that it achieves it's cinematics without CGI but the games engine and stuff like that but sometimes it looks downright sloppy. I love MGS4 but the graphics aren't the messiah.

Gears of War 2 has improved heavily on the original Gears, sharper textures, better gore effects, improved animations, larger scope, varied enviroments with stronger lighting, and of course more units on screen. We've seen battles with literally 50+ of units on screen. That's amazing for a game like Gears.
Sihanouk

LOL. Didn't you read Gamespot's review of MGS4? Remmeber, Gears of War 2 is made on Xbox 360, which is a weaker console that uses last-gen DVD9 and lacks a standard hard-disk drive.

Will you be disappointed when Gamespot review Gears 2 and does not say it is the most advanced console game ever made? I mean Gears 2 is too monochomatic for it to be a graphics king, let alone the most "advanced" king.

What boundaries will Gears 2 push? I am pretty sure Resistance 2 will push more boundaries (boss sizes, multiplayer sizes, most content for a shooter, etc.) than Gears 2.

Technologically advanced as MGS4 :lol:

Sony fanboys are funny.

Even after 17 mins of install times and 4.6GBs installed to your HDD MGS4 is riddled with technical problems from non-native HD resolutions, below 30FPS average frame rate, lower polygon models when compared to Geow1, to some of the most low res textures seen this gen. It doesn't take much to beat it technically. Not trying to be harsh but its true for the most part.opex07

But MGS4 has teh best 'Mullet Rendering Algorithms'. It's all in the Cell baby:roll:

[QUOTE="flatline711"]To Spruce, Epic obviously killed off the only two homosexual characters due to their homophobic nature. For the record, I'm not being serious about this. I have no idea if any Gears characters happen to be homosexual. Just incase people decide to get into some debate with me. :oSpruceCaboose

I know you weren't serious, and I got what you were saying after I posted, that is why I edited my comment. I was just having some laughs.

Hey Sihanouk you should write a book.

"999 reasons not to buy an xbox 360"

Then you wouldn't have to come here everyday and embarrass yourself.

Hey Sihanouk you should write a book.

"999 reasons not to buy an xbox 360"

Then you wouldn't have to come here everyday and embarrass yourself.

SpinoRaptor

998 of those reasons would be ridiculous fanboy jibber jabber, the other would be RROD.

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor"]

Hey Sihanouk you should write a book.

"999 reasons not to buy an xbox 360"

Then you wouldn't have to come here everyday and embarrass yourself.

Il_Exile_lI

998 of those reasons would be ridiculous fanboy jibber jabber, the other would be RROD.

I think Gears of War 1 already shown that the Xbox 360 is already old because no other game after it look better. So you just have to move on to the real HD video gaming console called the PS3. Play B3yond.

MGS4 is NOT a technologically advanced game compared to Gears of War 2. It's amazing in the sense that it achieves it's cinematics without CGI but the games engine and stuff like that but sometimes it looks downright sloppy. I love MGS4 but the graphics aren't the messiah.

Gears of War 2 has improved heavily on the original Gears, sharper textures, better gore effects, improved animations, larger scope, varied enviroments with stronger lighting, and of course more units on screen. We've seen battles with literally 50+ of units on screen. That's amazing for a game like Gears.
Toriko42

Sharper textures, but everything else is flat out NO.

Gore effects... well, although they look cool, it's not like it's so incredible that it can't be done. MGS4's 'rubble dirt' effects look better, and they're pretty much the same thing... splattered paint :|

Improved animations doesn't mean better animations than MGS4, plus MGS4 runs at a better and smoother framerate.

Larger scope with varied environments... you seriously got to be kidding me. MGS4's environments are massive, with tons of things happening on screen at occasions. MGS4 doesn't have varied environments? Uh, try the Middle East, to the Jungle, to London, to Shadow Moses (Snow level, possibly the best snow effects ever).

Also, Cinematics move into gameplay seamlessly in MGS4, I think you need to elaborate on what you think is 'sloppy.'

Gears will look incredible, don't get me wrong. It just doesn't trump MGS4 on the technical side.

Its going to be a great game, with great graphics, and great features from what i see.

I dont need to compare it with MGS4, untill i play alot of both.

Xbox 360 is indeed aging in terms of graphics and limitations.Read this article :

http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/epic-xbox-360-approaching-upper-end-graphically-/?biz=1

".....So I think we're certainly approaching the upper end of it, as far as what developers are able to do with it, but just looking at all the demos we saw today -- ours and others -- it's clear that all the games just keep improving, and keep pushing that bar."

Fanboys might not like it, but I will be proven right. I have seen the vidoes and read many interviews, and Gears of War 2 will fail one major test: Will Gears of War 2 be as technologically advanced as Metal Gear Solid 4? By technologically advanced I am talking about the combination of graphics, sounds, and other gaming technogolies.

Have you noticed how you always avoid talking about what matter, the game's quality? Why? Easy, because you know, that, acording to Gamerankings (and I know you like to use Gamerankings) MGS4 is not considered better than Gears 1 or Halo 3- Two "old tech" 360 games are considered better than your "most technologically advanced game ever". Amazing.

I am quite sure that Gears of War 2 will not be as technologically advanced as MGS4.

Crystall Ball? Let's wait.

Why is this important? Because it means that Xbox 360 is aging. Remember, Epic is the developer of Gears 2, and Epic is currently the best Xbox 360 developer. Remember also that Epic has one year and a half extra experience working with Xbox 360, the console that everyone knows is easier to develop for.

Don't forget cansole graphics do not depend only on console's power, but also on the negine used. That's why God of War II looked better than most Xbox games, not because the hardware changed, but because the devs learned how to use it better.

If Epic can't make Gears of War 2 as technologically impressive as Metal Gear Solid 4, it means only one thing: Xbox 360 is getting old, unable to keep up with the PS3.

Welcome to the real world. What really matters is not if it will be "as technologically impressive", what matters is if it is will be a good game or not.

I think it is funny how you always talk about "technologically impressiveness" and never about something far more important, game quality. Maybe because the PS3 has only one game beyond 9 in GS? Or maybe because it has almost 100 games less that scored 80% or more on Metacritic? ;)
Sihanouk