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#1 FantasySports02
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Epic games seems to be in a "tweener" position. They can either make Gears of War 3 for the Xbox 360 with the next xbox coming out 1 or 2 years later or they can put all their effort into launching with the next Xbox.

What do you think they should do?

 

Gears of War 3 and a Bungie game would be a great launch lineup.

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#2 verbalfilth
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Well, I think that it would make sense for them to first and foremost fire Cliffy B.

Also...maybe they should wait till next gen to make a third since I personally don't see it being any better on the current consol.

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#3 Fusible
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Well, I think that it would make sense for them to first and foremost fire Cliffy B.

Also...maybe they should wait till next gen to make a third since I personally don't see it being any better on the current consol.

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Cliffy B is the man. Just because he's outspoken everybodies out to get him.
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thats pretty stupid, why would they wait for the nex gen to release a game? what wrong this the current gen? have they maxxed out everything? who knows when the next xbox will come out
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#5 Eltroz
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Depends when Microsoft is planning on doing the next X-Box.

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#6 verbalfilth
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[QUOTE="verbalfilth"]

Well, I think that it would make sense for them to first and foremost fire Cliffy B.

Also...maybe they should wait till next gen to make a third since I personally don't see it being any better on the current consol.

Fusible

Cliffy B is the man. Just because he's outspoken everybodies out to get him.

if being outspoken means disrespectful, annoying, self righteous and a prick then yes....he is a very outspoken person...perhaps the most outspoken person this gen. (and remember that Itagaki was very present this gen)

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#7 FantasySports02
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Well, I think that it would make sense for them to first and foremost fire Cliffy B.

Also...maybe they should wait till next gen to make a third since I personally don't see it being any better on the current consol.

verbalfilth

I wholeheartedly agree that there's not much left to improve on for the Xbox 360.

I'd love to see what Epic could do on the next Xbox.

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#8 Alpha-Male22
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I can't believe MS fans, or the general people are already preparing for Xbox 3.

One thing that shocked me with the original Xbox was how SHORT it lasted. Sure, it may have been because it did poorly, and maybe that's why they strategically (at least until RROD occurred) entered the current gen a year before its competitors.

Why not enjoy this gen? I mean, sure, Gears 3 will rock, but I'm sure that it can be just as great on this Xbox.


Stop thinking about next gen consoles, I really can't afford a new generation anytime soon. I'm planning on milking this gen for all its worth, and I expect to last till 2012.

I'm rambling, but my point is, why can't Gears 3 be on Xbox 360?

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#9 Toriko42
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Well, I think that it would make sense for them to first and foremost fire Cliffy B.

Also...maybe they should wait till next gen to make a third since I personally don't see it being any better on the current consol.

verbalfilth
Cliffy B is far more successful then any PS3 designer in the NA market. As far as NA goes the popularity of Cliff Bleszenski > Kojima

That's right, I went there.
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I can't believe MS fans, or the general people are already preparing for Xbox 3.

One thing that shocked me with the original Xbox was how SHORT it lasted. Sure, it may have been because it did poorly, and maybe that's why they strategically (at least until RROD occurred) entered the current gen a year before its competitors.

Why not enjoy this gen? I mean, sure, Gears 3 will rock, but I'm sure that it can be just as great on this Xbox.


Stop thinking about next gen consoles, I really can't afford a new generation anytime soon. I'm planning on milking this gen for all its worth, and I expect to last till 2012.

I'm rambling, but my point is, why can't Gears 3 be on Xbox 360?

Alpha-Male22

sorry but the industry only moves forward and if not it will stagnate. i positive Epic will release Gears 3 on the next Xbox and not this generation, they have almost maxed the current box capability. not that gears 3 would be bad on the 360 but i would rather have them focus resources on next gen gears using UE4, and im sure MS will give them the low down on what the next box will be capable of. Gears 3=100% destructibility physics, ultra dynamic AI, DX11, 1080p native, and Crysis graphicsX3.

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#11 slickchris7777
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Why are you so eager for next gen? You understand you have to pay $500+ for another console as well as $70 for games.

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#13 verbalfilth
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[QUOTE="verbalfilth"]

Well, I think that it would make sense for them to first and foremost fire Cliffy B.

Also...maybe they should wait till next gen to make a third since I personally don't see it being any better on the current consol.

Toriko42

Cliffy B is far more successful then any PS3 designer in the NA market. As far as NA goes the popularity of Cliff Bleszenski > Kojima

That's right, I went there.

Your point being?

I still think he has attitude problems and should be tossed in a puddle of sewage.

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#14 Alpha-Male22
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[QUOTE="Alpha-Male22"]

I can't believe MS fans, or the general people are already preparing for Xbox 3.

One thing that shocked me with the original Xbox was how SHORT it lasted. Sure, it may have been because it did poorly, and maybe that's why they strategically (at least until RROD occurred) entered the current gen a year before its competitors.

Why not enjoy this gen? I mean, sure, Gears 3 will rock, but I'm sure that it can be just as great on this Xbox.


Stop thinking about next gen consoles, I really can't afford a new generation anytime soon. I'm planning on milking this gen for all its worth, and I expect to last till 2012.

I'm rambling, but my point is, why can't Gears 3 be on Xbox 360?

Nameless-Hero

sorry but the industry only moves forward and if not it will stagnate. i positive Epic will release Gears 3 on the next Xbox and not this generation, they have almost maxed the current box capability. not that gears 3 would be bad on the 360 but i would rather have them focus resources on next gen gears using UE4, and im sure MS will give them the low down on what the next box will be capable of. Gears 3=100% destructibility physics, ultra dynamic AI, DX11, 1080p native, and Crysis graphicsX3.

I suppose you are correct but this gen is far from over. People talk about the new Xbox like it's coming in a short 2 years.

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#15 -Mad_Rhetoric-
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[QUOTE="verbalfilth"]

Well, I think that it would make sense for them to first and foremost fire Cliffy B.

Also...maybe they should wait till next gen to make a third since I personally don't see it being any better on the current consol.

Toriko42

Cliffy B is far more successful then any PS3 designer in the NA market. As far as NA goes the popularity of Cliff Bleszenski > Kojima

That's right, I went there.

:lol: where part of "NA" do you live in

kojima is far more well known and respected, then that douse bag

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#16 Toriko42
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[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="verbalfilth"]

Well, I think that it would make sense for them to first and foremost fire Cliffy B.

Also...maybe they should wait till next gen to make a third since I personally don't see it being any better on the current consol.

-Mad_Rhetoric-

Cliffy B is far more successful then any PS3 designer in the NA market. As far as NA goes the popularity of Cliff Bleszenski > Kojima

That's right, I went there.

:lol: where part of "NA" do you live in

kojima is far more well known and respected, then that douse bag

I live in Canada and if I went anywhere and said Cliff Bleszenski or Kojima more will know and respect Cliff

His game is also more respected in NA

Do you just not want the truth? Look at sales.
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[QUOTE="Fusible"][QUOTE="verbalfilth"]

Well, I think that it would make sense for them to first and foremost fire Cliffy B.

Also...maybe they should wait till next gen toWhy do you peopl make a third since I personally don't see it being any better on the current consol.

verbalfilth

Cliffy B is the man. Just because he's outspoken everybodies out to get him.

if being outspoken means disrespectful, annoying, self righteous and a prick then yes....he is a very outspoken person...perhaps the most outspoken person this gen. (and remember that Itagaki was very present this gen)

Why are you so against Cliff? How was he disrespectful, annoying, self righteous and a prick?

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#18 Pinkyimp
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I dont think we should have another console

i mean..where at the point where graphics are just fine..and the Media capabilites, and market places are great..i dont think we need another one...we would just have to start back at Zero if there was another console

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[QUOTE="verbalfilth"][QUOTE="Fusible"]Cliffy B is the man. Just because he's outspoken everybodies out to get him.Auto_dude

if being outspoken means disrespectful, annoying, self righteous and a prick then yes....he is a very outspoken person...perhaps the most outspoken person this gen. (and remember that Itagaki was very present this gen)

Why are you so against Cliff? How was he disrespectful, annoying, self righteous and a prick?

demise of PC gaming, Complaining that mirror's edge has no guns like his beloved gears of war, dissing mgs by stating, "Metal Gear Solid is our example of the game we're not doing. Passive entertainment is on its way out." and then later coming out and saying how much he loved it, followed by his motivation to include a touchy feely plot to his second game...Come on...the guy is too ignorant for words.

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thats pretty stupid, why would they wait for the nex gen to release a game? what wrong this the current gen? have they maxxed out everything? who knows when the next xbox will come out-Mad_Rhetoric-

Uh because the next xbox is comming in about two years and it will take about the same amount of time to make the game. They can either make it for the 360 and be gurrenteed big sales right off the bat or they can make it the big launch game for the next xbox and take advantage of whatever awsome features and hardware MS unleashes but the sales will be more a slow burn because of the small install base.

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#21 Nameless-Hero
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I dont think we should have another console

i mean..where at the point where graphics are just fine..and the Media capabilites, and market places are great..i dont think we need another one...we would just have to start back at Zero if there was another console

Pinkyimp

???????????? uh what are you talking about. do you honestly think gaming can progress no further? how are the graphics fine, sure they are good but they have a long way to go most games can' even support full HD, and not to mention SHDTV is only a few years away. i think u need to do a little research on this topic and what do u mean we would have to start back at zero? u talkin pong.

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#22 TOAO_Cyrus1
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[QUOTE="Auto_dude"][QUOTE="verbalfilth"]

 

 

if being outspoken means disrespectful, annoying, self righteous and a prick then yes....he is a very outspoken person...perhaps the most outspoken person this gen. (and remember that Itagaki was very present this gen)

verbalfilth

Why are you so against Cliff? How was he disrespectful, annoying, self righteous and a prick?

demise of PC gaming, Complaining that mirror's edge has no guns like his beloved gears of war, dissing mgs by stating, "Metal Gear Solid is our example of the game we're not doing. Passive entertainment is on its way out." and then later coming out and saying how much he loved it, followed by his motivation to include a touchy feely plot to his second game...Come on...the guy is too ignorant for words.

Uh there are thousands upon thousands of games that probably hold one or more of those exact same opinions. Are they all too ignorent for words? When did the MGS series become the god of gaming and any criticism of it automatically invalid? I mean what he said was perfectly true, the game does take cut scenes to and extreme, wether you like that or not is a matter of opinion. From the demo he seems perfectly right about mirros edge, IMO its probably going to be a 5 hour QTE with no replay value. Again just an opinion that could be proven wrong.

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[QUOTE="-Mad_Rhetoric-"]thats pretty stupid, why would they wait for the nex gen to release a game? what wrong this the current gen? have they maxxed out everything? who knows when the next xbox will come outTOAO_Cyrus1

Uh because the next xbox is comming in about two years and it will take about the same amount of time to make the game. They can either make it for the 360 and be gurrenteed big sales right off the bat or they can make it the big launch game for the next xbox and take advantage of whatever awsome features and hardware MS unleashes but the sales will be more a slow burn because of the small install base.

sorry i don't have a crystal ball :lol:

if you think the next xbox is coming out in 2 years you don't know anything, xbox 1 =/= xbox 360, just because xbox 1 had a 4 year life span doesn't mean the 360 will do the ssame, if something happens once its not a trend

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#24 Pinkyimp
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Ugh...no.

What im saying is that...where at the point where graphics dont really matter anymore..even though we can progress in technology i dotn really think that theres a use for "teh bestest" graphics anymore..because where at a good state.

Yes pushing the boundaries is great..and without them there is no change..but i think the consoles can last a few more years without another one..The consoles graphics are just fine now..and i see no need to release yet another console to show off your E-Peen about how you have the best graphics.

About the Zero thing..It when you have a console..and you spend so much money and stuff on it..only to have 4 years later, a new console come out..then you have to abandon your old POS for the new system..its like starting all over again..i really hate the feeling of having all these games and stuff..then your system is oboslete within 4 years and you have to buy another system (not saying you have to but most do).

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#25 TOAO_Cyrus1
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[QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"]

[QUOTE="-Mad_Rhetoric-"]thats pretty stupid, why would they wait for the nex gen to release a game? what wrong this the current gen? have they maxxed out everything? who knows when the next xbox will come out-Mad_Rhetoric-

Uh because the next xbox is comming in about two years and it will take about the same amount of time to make the game. They can either make it for the 360 and be gurrenteed big sales right off the bat or they can make it the big launch game for the next xbox and take advantage of whatever awsome features and hardware MS unleashes but the sales will be more a slow burn because of the small install base.

sorry i don't have a crystal ball :lol:

if you think the next xbox is coming out in 2 years you don't know anything, xbox 1 =/= xbox 360, just because xbox 1 had a 4 year life span doesn't mean the 360 will do the ssame, if something happens once its not a trend

Five years is the industry average and in two years the 360 will ahve been out five years. No I dont know for sure but its easy to make an educated guess, especially when we are hypothesizing on reasons Epic might make Gears 3 for Xbox Next. If they consider making it a launch gamer MS will obviously tell them when that is .

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#26 verbalfilth
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I dont think we should have another console

i mean..where at the point where graphics are just fine..and the Media capabilites, and market places are great..i dont think we need another one...we would just have to start back at Zero if there was another console

Pinkyimp

Yeah, we probably won't see a huge leap in graphics, just slight improvements and what not, however, with new hardware for a new gen, we could be looking at more content in game, more believable physic/interaction, more complex environments and overall better performance.

In other words, would you have a gears of war 3 now that is pretty much equal, if not slightly better, to gears of war 2 or would you rather see a gears of war 3 next gen with a larger world, more interactive objects and almost lifelike AI and so on?

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Ugh...no.

What im saying is that...where at the point where graphics dont really matter anymore..even though we can progress in technology i dotn really think that theres a use for "teh bestest" graphics anymore..because where at a good state.

Yes pushing the boundaries is great..and without them there is no change..but i think the consoles can last a few more years without another one..The consoles graphics are just fine now..and i see no need to release yet another console to show off your E-Peen about how you have the best graphics.

About the Zero thing..It when you have a console..and you spend so much money and stuff on it..only to have 4 years later, a new console come out..then you have to abandon your old POS for the new system..its like starting all over again..i really hate the feeling of having all these games and stuff..then your system is oboslete within 4 years and you have to buy another system (not saying you have to but most do).

Pinkyimp

That is a matter of opinion and I strongly disagree. We wont be at that point untill we have full on virtual reality. And dont give me the "I hate realistic graphics" line because your styalized graphics will look a hell of a lot better too.

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#28 -Mad_Rhetoric-
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[QUOTE="Pinkyimp"]

I dont think we should have another console

i mean..where at the point where graphics are just fine..and the Media capabilites, and market places are great..i dont think we need another one...we would just have to start back at Zero if there was another console

verbalfilth

Yeah, we probably won't see a huge leap in graphics, just slight improvements and what not, however, with new hardware for a new gen, we could be looking at more content in game, more believable physic/interaction, more complex environments and overall better performance.

In other words, would you have a gears of war 3 now that is pretty much equal, if not slightly better, to gears of war 2 or would you rather see a gears of war 3 next gen with a larger world, more interactive objects and almost lifelike AI and so on?

if we've noticed anything its that with each successing generation theres a smaller and smaller leap/gap, oblivious the biggest one was going from 2d to 3d 1995-2000 era, I don't think there will be a "huge" jump in power
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#29 Pinkyimp
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[QUOTE="Pinkyimp"]

I dont think we should have another console

i mean..where at the point where graphics are just fine..and the Media capabilites, and market places are great..i dont think we need another one...we would just have to start back at Zero if there was another console

verbalfilth

In other words, would you have a gears of war 3 now that is pretty much equal, if not slightly better, to gears of war 2 or would you rather see a gears of war 3 next gen with a larger world, more interactive objects and almost lifelike AI and so on?

I would have the second choice..who woulden't?

But for right now..i think where good..of course theres always room for improvement, thats a no-brainer, but for right now i dont think we need another system..i would rather have PS3's 10 year cycle instead of 5.

I wish it was more like PC gaming..where you can keep your old card..but you still have some chance of running new games..for example..i can play Fallout 3 nicely on my X1950 pro...but on consoles..if i want the "next gen" experence i would have to buy a completly new system..which is annoying after years of doing it.

For once i just want the consoles to last longer than they should..because its not like every game wants the push the bounderies..

 

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#30 TOAO_Cyrus1
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[QUOTE="Pinkyimp"]

I dont think we should have another console

i mean..where at the point where graphics are just fine..and the Media capabilites, and market places are great..i dont think we need another one...we would just have to start back at Zero if there was another console

verbalfilth

Yeah, we probably won't see a huge leap in graphics, just slight improvements and what not, however, with new hardware for a new gen, we could be looking at more content in game, more believable physic/interaction, more complex environments and overall better performance.

In other words, would you have a gears of war 3 now that is pretty much equal, if not slightly better, to gears of war 2 or would you rather see a gears of war 3 next gen with a larger world, more interactive objects and almost lifelike AI and so on?

 

Thats where your wrong. Graphics tech is already three or four times as powerful as current consoles. There will be a huge leap as there is every generation, unless everyone decides to pull a Wii.

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#31 TOAO_Cyrus1
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[QUOTE="verbalfilth"][QUOTE="Pinkyimp"]

I dont think we should have another console

i mean..where at the point where graphics are just fine..and the Media capabilites, and market places are great..i dont think we need another one...we would just have to start back at Zero if there was another console

Pinkyimp

In other words, would you have a gears of war 3 now that is pretty much equal, if not slightly better, to gears of war 2 or would you rather see a gears of war 3 next gen with a larger world, more interactive objects and almost lifelike AI and so on?

I would have the second choice..who woulden't?

But for right now..i think where good..of course theres always room for improvement, thats a no-brainer, but for right now i dont think we need another system..i would rather have PS3's 10 year cycle instead of 5.

I wish it was more like PC gaming..where you can keep your old card..but you still have some chance of running new games..for example..i can play Fallout 3 nicely on my X1950 pro...but on consoles..if i want the "next gen" experence i would have to buy a completly new system..which is annoying after years of doing it.

For once i just want the consoles to last longer than they should..because its not like every game wants the push the bounderies..

 

I agree we dont need a new console right at the moment but in two years things will be different. 

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Microsoft will force them to put it on the next Xbox... that way they make more money by forcing people to buy new hardware for the conclusion.
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#33 verbalfilth
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Uh there are thousands upon thousands of games that probably hold one or more of those exact same opinions. Are they all too ignorent for words? When did the MGS series become the god of gaming and any criticism of it automatically invalid? I mean what he said was perfectly true, the game does take cut scenes to and extreme, wether you like that or not is a matter of opinion. From the demo he seems perfectly right about mirros edge, IMO its probably going to be a 5 hour QTE with no replay value. Again just an opinion that could be proven wrong.

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MGS4 is not the god of all gaming, but it is without a doubt one of the best games out there today, saying something negative about it and then later turning around and praising is just a perfect example of speaking without thinking. Mirror's edge is a game designed not to rely on guns too much. I'm one of the people who has a negative outlook on how the game will cope once it comes out, but even I know what it's about and what its purpose is...a sign of ignorance from him again. His statemnt on pc gaming was just out of spite since his first game didn't do too well on that platform when compared to its earlier release. I don't favor pc gaming over consol gaming, however, Even I, who isn't as well versed as the average pc gamer, knows there's nopthing but BS in that statement.

Anyways, my problem with him doesn't lie purely in what he says, it's how he says it. A proffesional with ignorant fanboy remarks that are no better than what you see here on a day to day basis doesn't deserve my respect....that is why my opinion still remains, that he should be tossed in a puddle of sewage.

 

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#34 TOAO_Cyrus1
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[QUOTE="verbalfilth"][QUOTE="Pinkyimp"]

I dont think we should have another console

i mean..where at the point where graphics are just fine..and the Media capabilites, and market places are great..i dont think we need another one...we would just have to start back at Zero if there was another console

-Mad_Rhetoric-

Yeah, we probably won't see a huge leap in graphics, just slight improvements and what not, however, with new hardware for a new gen, we could be looking at more content in game, more believable physic/interaction, more complex environments and overall better performance.

In other words, would you have a gears of war 3 now that is pretty much equal, if not slightly better, to gears of war 2 or would you rather see a gears of war 3 next gen with a larger world, more interactive objects and almost lifelike AI and so on?

if we've noticed anything its that with each successing generation theres a smaller and smaller leap/gap, oblivious the biggest one was going from 2d to 3d 1995-2000 era, I don't think there will be a "huge" jump in power

 

I think the jump from Xbox to 360/PS3 was smaller then it could have been because both MS and Sony skimped badly in RAM. The jump was smaller then from the PS1/N64 to PS2/Xbox and they also increased rendering resolutions massivily. 

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#35 Pinkyimp
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[QUOTE="Pinkyimp"]

Ugh...no.

What im saying is that...where at the point where graphics dont really matter anymore..even though we can progress in technology i dotn really think that theres a use for "teh bestest" graphics anymore..because where at a good state.

Yes pushing the boundaries is great..and without them there is no change..but i think the consoles can last a few more years without another one..The consoles graphics are just fine now..and i see no need to release yet another console to show off your E-Peen about how you have the best graphics.

About the Zero thing..It when you have a console..and you spend so much money and stuff on it..only to have 4 years later, a new console come out..then you have to abandon your old POS for the new system..its like starting all over again..i really hate the feeling of having all these games and stuff..then your system is oboslete within 4 years and you have to buy another system (not saying you have to but most do).

TOAO_Cyrus1

That is a matter of opinion and I strongly disagree. We wont be at that point untill we have full on virtual reality. And dont give me the "I hate realistic graphics" line because your styalized graphics will look a hell of a lot better too.

And VR will be reality when?,  many years from now probably..which is not on my radar right now..

Im talking about right now..where we are at this point and time..i could care less about VR some years down the line..

I never said it would not be nice improve..But i think that there is no purpose of releasing another console with a little graphics boost..its not needed..and for right now the 360/PS3, have good enought capabliities to run games..

Now if you disagree thats fine..but not every console is going to bring the next evolution in Graphics or gameplay..so stop expecting that every year where goint to reach VR..because if anything, PC will do that first, the next xbox will probably reach graphics close to crysis..so whats the point of making another one?, for a little graphics boost that does nothing and makes everyone throw out there older xboxes?..yea great deal

I dont hate realistic graphics, TBH i dont know where you got that from..there great..and i think there ok..but nothing to release another system about.

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#36 sargentbotk
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Honestly, I'd rather have Gears 3 when the new Xbox launches...but at the same time, I want this gen to last until I feel it's right to move onto the next gen(Most likely that'll happen when I notice the trend of garbage games coming out.)

2 more years is enough for me...I wouldn't mind 3. But in 2 years, I'll be able to afford a new system. I just hope Epic Games take full potential of the new hardware and UE4 while they're developing Gears 3.

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#37 Eyezonmii
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[QUOTE="verbalfilth"]

Well, I think that it would make sense for them to first and foremost fire Cliffy B.

Also...maybe they should wait till next gen to make a third since I personally don't see it being any better on the current consol.

Toriko42

Cliffy B is far more successful then any PS3 designer in the NA market. As far as NA goes the popularity of Cliff Bleszenski > Kojima

That's right, I went there.

lol, that a joke? 

Kojima has geen known and loved since like 1998, hell maybe before that, with the majority of his titles ZOE and MGS...Cliffy with just Gears of War. 

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#38 TOAO_Cyrus1
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[QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"][QUOTE="Pinkyimp"]

Ugh...no.

What im saying is that...where at the point where graphics dont really matter anymore..even though we can progress in technology i dotn really think that theres a use for "teh bestest" graphics anymore..because where at a good state.

Yes pushing the boundaries is great..and without them there is no change..but i think the consoles can last a few more years without another one..The consoles graphics are just fine now..and i see no need to release yet another console to show off your E-Peen about how you have the best graphics.

About the Zero thing..It when you have a console..and you spend so much money and stuff on it..only to have 4 years later, a new console come out..then you have to abandon your old POS for the new system..its like starting all over again..i really hate the feeling of having all these games and stuff..then your system is oboslete within 4 years and you have to buy another system (not saying you have to but most do).

Pinkyimp

That is a matter of opinion and I strongly disagree. We wont be at that point untill we have full on virtual reality. And dont give me the "I hate realistic graphics" line because your styalized graphics will look a hell of a lot better too.

And VR will be reality when?,  many years from now probably..which is not on my radar right now..

Im talking about right now..where we are at this point and time..i could care less about VR some years down the line..

I never said it would not be nice improve..But i think that there is no purpose of releasing another console with a little graphics boost..its not needed..and for right now the 360/PS3, have good enought capabliities to run games..

Now if you disagree thats fine..but not every console is going to bring the next evolution in Graphics or gameplay..so stop expecting that every year where goint to reach VR..because if anything, PC will do that first, the next xbox will probably reach graphics close to crysis..so whats the point of making another one?, for a little graphics boost that does nothing and makes everyone throw out there older xboxes?..yea great deal

I dont hate realistic graphics, TBH i dont know where you got that from..there great..and i think there ok..but nothing to release another system about.

If we dont keep increasing graphical power we will never get there. What makes you so sure that if a new console comes out in two years it will be just a small improvement in graphics? When has that ever happend before outside of the Wii? With the rate Nvidia and AMD are turning out new graphics chips it iwll be a huge leap. Also most likely everyone will be using some sort of advanced motion technology. Of course PC's will get to VR first but consoles need to keep updating too. As for the realistic graphics comment that wasnt directed at you specifically I just threw that out there because thats what people usually say when I have this kind of arguement.

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[QUOTE="Auto_dude"][QUOTE="verbalfilth"]

if being outspoken means disrespectful, annoying, self righteous and a prick then yes....he is a very outspoken person...perhaps the most outspoken person this gen. (and remember that Itagaki was very present this gen)

verbalfilth

Why are you so against Cliff? How was he disrespectful, annoying, self righteous and a prick?

demise of PC gaming, Complaining that mirror's edge has no guns like his beloved gears of war, dissing mgs by stating, "Metal Gear Solid is our example of the game we're not doing. Passive entertainment is on its way out." and then later coming out and saying how much he loved it, followed by his motivation to include a touchy feely plot to his second game...Come on...the guy is too ignorant for words.



I think you're misunderstanding him. He didn't compain at all about Mirror's Edge not having gunplay or else he would have said something like "I think Mirror's Edge is not that great. It's too bad it didn't have any gunplay at all because I think that would make it alot better." Instead he said that the game was great and that they were showing too much of the parkour and not enough variety such as the gunplay which I know there is some. I too would like to see more variety in that game because right know I not as excited as I was before. It feels like Assasin's Creed all over again. When it comes to MGS4 he didn't diss it at all. All he said was that he really enjoyed the game and that its the type of game that they are not doing. What's so wrong about that? Also his opinion about passive entertainment such as MGS being "on it's way out" may be true. I think some gamers would rather play interactive entertainment rather than just watch most of the action. Last but not least I think it's great that they are expanding more of Dom's motives in Gears 2 this being about his girlfriend. It's give him a more emotional purpose of wanting to do what he's there to do. It also gives the game a softer side of contrast. Don't hate they guys opinion. Its neither wrong nor the absolute right.
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#40 sargentbotk
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[QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"]

Uh there are thousands upon thousands of games that probably hold one or more of those exact same opinions. Are they all too ignorent for words? When did the MGS series become the god of gaming and any criticism of it automatically invalid? I mean what he said was perfectly true, the game does take cut scenes to and extreme, wether you like that or not is a matter of opinion. From the demo he seems perfectly right about mirros edge, IMO its probably going to be a 5 hour QTE with no replay value. Again just an opinion that could be proven wrong.

verbalfilth

MGS4 is not the god of all gaming, but it is without a doubt one of the best games out there today, saying something negative about it and then later turning around and praising is just a perfect example of speaking without thinking. Mirror's edge is a game designed not to rely on guns too much. I'm one of the people who has a negative outlook on how the game will cope once it comes out, but even I know what it's about and what its purpose is...a sign of ignorance from him again. His statemnt on pc gaming was just out of spite since his first game didn't do too well on that platform when compared to its earlier release. I don't favor pc gaming over consol gaming, however, Even I, who isn't as well versed as the average pc gamer, knows there's nopthing but BS in that statement.

Anyways, my problem with him doesn't lie purely in what he says, it's how he says it. A proffesional with ignorant fanboy remarks that are no better than what you see here on a day to day basis doesn't deserve my respect....that is why my opinion still remains, that he should be tossed in a puddle of sewage.

At the end of the day, he's making the money, and everyone is praising him and the rest of the dev team for their hard work and dedication to satisfying their fans with Gears 2 :)

Yeah he talks crap, but he said it himself that it's all fun. If I knew my game was really good...I would gloat no doubt. It's all fun and games on his part. People on this forum have some stupid grudge against a guy that speaks his mind. There's nothing wrong with that. And you're no better than he is with you're comment "He should be tossed in a puddle of sewage."

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Epic games seems to be in a "tweener" position. They can either make Gears of War 3 for the Xbox 360 with the next xbox coming out 1 or 2 years later or they can put all their effort into launching with the next Xbox 720.

 

What do you think they should do?

 

Gears of War 3 and Bungie game would be a great launch lineup.

FantasySports02

a strong gears of war 3 launch with the new xbox would secure its sucess.

but then again, since gears of war 3 is the end of the trilogy, and most of the work in it is already done, epic might feel the need to bring closure to the 360.

1. graphics are pretty much as good as they will be, epic can improve pop-in, other than that, i think the fact that gears 2 only looks a little better than the first proves a limit.

2. gameplay is set, i doubt any big new elements will be revealed.

3. i mean obbiously there is work to be done, new enemies, new weapons, new story, but since all of the gameplay and graphical and technical infrastructure is already almost complete there is no reason to come out with this game sooner than later from a profit standpoint.

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#42 naruto7777
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no i want elder scrolls 5
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#43 GhostMLD2
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yes next gen xbox would be better for gears 3, but 1st it needs a publisher, and if someone like EA or Sony got the rights, then"lol"
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Fairly sure Cliffy already said something about a new Gears on the "neXt-Box".

(See what I did there?)

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#45 FantasySports02
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[QUOTE="verbalfilth"][QUOTE="Pinkyimp"]

I dont think we should have another console

i mean..where at the point where graphics are just fine..and the Media capabilites, and market places are great..i dont think we need another one...we would just have to start back at Zero if there was another console

Pinkyimp

In other words, would you have a gears of war 3 now that is pretty much equal, if not slightly better, to gears of war 2 or would you rather see a gears of war 3 next gen with a larger world, more interactive objects and almost lifelike AI and so on?

I would have the second choice..who woulden't?

But for right now..i think where good..of course theres always room for improvement, thats a no-brainer, but for right now i dont think we need another system..i would rather have PS3's 10 year cycle instead of 5.

I wish it was more like PC gaming..where you can keep your old card..but you still have some chance of running new games..for example..i can play Fallout 3 nicely on my X1950 pro...but on consoles..if i want the "next gen" experence i would have to buy a completly new system..which is annoying after years of doing it.

For once i just want the consoles to last longer than they should..because its not like every game wants the push the bounderies..

 

 

You clearly said you don't think we should have another console. That means never ever have another console release, which is looney imo.If you didn't mean what you said, then I understand.

We're not talking about a new system releasing now, but in 2 or 3 years.

In 2-3 years the Xbox 360 would have been out for 5-6 years.

You have to expect Gears 3 to take 2-3 years to make, so why not release it on the next Xbox?

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Fairly sure Cliffy already said something about a new Gears on the "neXt-Box".

(See what I did there?)

nalhutta94

 

good one :D

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[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="verbalfilth"]

Well, I think that it would make sense for them to first and foremost fire Cliffy B.

Also...maybe they should wait till next gen to make a third since I personally don't see it being any better on the current consol.

Eyezonmii

Cliffy B is far more successful then any PS3 designer in the NA market. As far as NA goes the popularity of Cliff Bleszenski > Kojima

That's right, I went there.

lol, that a joke? 

Kojima has geen known and loved since like 1998, hell maybe before that, with the majority of his titles ZOE and MGS...Cliffy with just Gears of War. 

I know Kojima is the best talent. I love his games. BUT it's undeniable that Cliff is far more influential in the North American market. Give the standard American the choice, Gears of War 1, 2 and UT2K4

Then let him choose from Zone of Enders, MGS 4 and Boktai

Guess what they will choose
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I hope they finish the series on the 360 .  

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#49 Toriko42
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I hope so too but I think it'll go the direction of Halo 2-3

Gears of War 3! Launch Title for the next Xbox...coming in 4 years :'(
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#50 spencer_119
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l would love for gears 3 to be on 360 but if its put on a the next xbox that would be cool