Gears Uses Unreal Engine!

people keep saying Gears looks better than KZ2 although i do agree the texture looks better, it doesn't mean the entire game looks better and the reason gears has better texture is not because 360 is more powerful! it's because thats how unreal engine is build! the same texture can be exactly produced on PS3 as well, just look at unreal tournament which uses unreal engine both the game on PS3/360 looks exactly the same, and 360 version was released few month after the PS3 version.

also KZ2 has better animation and physics and lighting and HIGH polygon characters!, this is the reason that makes KZ2 look better now i'm not hyping KZ2 as AAA game or AA it might flop but graphic and gameplay are 2 different things. so stop comparing KZ2 with gears cause it's aboslutly pointless! since we know for a fact that gears can be done on PS3 but we don't know for a fact that KZ2 can be done on 360!

KZ2 can easily be done on the 360, don't kid yourself.Nedemis

Agreed. This gen consoles don't have significant advantages over each other like the last generation. Except the Wii obviously.

Resistance2 looks better then gears1.5, Killzone2 destroys ALL!!killzowned24

You try way too hard to be a big cow.

Resistance2 looks better then gears1.5, Killzone2 destroys ALL!!killzowned24

your definatly my new favorite cartoon fanboy. well done sir

Resistance2 looks better then gears1.5, Killzone2 destroys ALL!!killzowned24

Resistance 2 and Gears 2 both look very good. There is a definite visual improvement in Resistance 2 compared to the first one and Epic has made some nice changes to Gears 2 via UE3. I don't think one looks better than the other since they are built on different engines and utilize different lighting and rendering.

Killzone 2's visuals at the moment are looking decent, they have the potential to improve by the time the game is out, but I expect them to stay the same. The biggest concern for K2 is if the gameplay lives up to the hype, so it would be hard to hail it as a destroyer at this point and time.

people keep saying Gears looks better than KZ2 although i do agree the texture looks better, it doesn't mean the entire game looks better and the reason gears has better texture is not because 360 is more powerful! it's because thats how unreal engine is build! the same texture can be exactly produced on PS3 as well, just look at unreal tournament which uses unreal engine both the game on PS3/360 looks exactly the same, and 360 version was released few month after the PS3 version.

also KZ2 has better animation and physics and lighting and HIGH polygon characters!, this is the reason that makes KZ2 look better now i'm not hyping KZ2 as AAA game or AA it might flop but graphic and gameplay are 2 different things. so stop comparing KZ2 with gears cause it's aboslutly pointless! since we know for a fact that gears can be done on PS3 but we don't know for a fact that KZ2 can be done on 360!

pminooei

Why do people make posts of something they do not understand yet pretend they do?

Yup

people keep saying Gears looks better than KZ2 although i do agree the texture looks better, it doesn't mean the entire game looks better and the reason gears has better texture is not because 360 is more powerful! it's because thats how unreal engine is build! the same texture can be exactly produced on PS3 as well, just look at unreal tournament which uses unreal engine both the game on PS3/360 looks exactly the same, and 360 version was released few month after the PS3 version.

also KZ2 has better animation and physics and lighting and HIGH polygon characters!, this is the reason that makes KZ2 look better now i'm not hyping KZ2 as AAA game or AA it might flop but graphic and gameplay are 2 different things. so stop comparing KZ2 with gears cause it's aboslutly pointless! since we know for a fact that gears can be done on PS3 but we don't know for a fact that KZ2 can be done on 360!

pminooei

Sorry to burst your bubble there, but UT3 is not the same on both consoles, things had to be removed from frames in the PS3 version because of vRAM constraints. No im not a MS fanboy, i work with software for a living, and any person can tell from these pics

http://www.eurogamer.net/gallery.php?game_id=5653&article_id=202623

UT3 proves that in graphics and stability, that Gears of War 2 could be made on the PS3 easily. As for Killzone 2, I don't know because I don't know how much space it takes up on the Bluray disc, it might not be a lot or it could be quite a bit. Depending on that, with the limited knowledge on how consoles work, I think Killzone 2 could be done on the X360 and look just as good and stable as it will when it is released on the PS3.

I own both an X360 and PS3, but I wish that Killzone 2 and both Resistance games would have been made on the X360, simply because the X360 has XBOX LIVE and that's what my personal friends play on exclusively. The online in Resistance on PSN I thought was a major downer because no one ever used a mic(because Sony didn't include one with the PS3 nor did they include an HDMI cable). So basically there was no team work and just utter chaos. Which for me, didn't make it fun

Hopefully when Socom: Confrontation comes out, more people will buy a mic so that there can be team work on future great games on the PS3 like Killzone 2 and Resistance 2.

GeoW 1 looks better than Resistance 2.....loco145

[QUOTE="pminooei"]

people keep saying Gears looks better than KZ2 although i do agree the texture looks better, it doesn't mean the entire game looks better and the reason gears has better texture is not because 360 is more powerful! it's because thats how unreal engine is build! the same texture can be exactly produced on PS3 as well, just look at unreal tournament which uses unreal engine both the game on PS3/360 looks exactly the same, and 360 version was released few month after the PS3 version.

also KZ2 has better animation and physics and lighting and HIGH polygon characters!, this is the reason that makes KZ2 look better now i'm not hyping KZ2 as AAA game or AA it might flop but graphic and gameplay are 2 different things. so stop comparing KZ2 with gears cause it's aboslutly pointless! since we know for a fact that gears can be done on PS3 but we don't know for a fact that KZ2 can be done on 360!

navyguy21

Sorry to burst your bubble there, but UT3 is not the same on both consoles, things had to be removed from frames in the PS3 version because of vRAM constraints. No im not a MS fanboy, i work with software for a living, and any person can tell from these pics

http://www.eurogamer.net/gallery.php?game_id=5653&article_id=202623

That link is crazy, i never really noticed big differences in PS3 vs 360 multiplat comparisons but its impossible not to notice the big chunks missing in the PS3 version. :shock:

[QUOTE="pminooei"]

people keep saying Gears looks better than KZ2 although i do agree the texture looks better, it doesn't mean the entire game looks better and the reason gears has better texture is not because 360 is more powerful! it's because thats how unreal engine is build! the same texture can be exactly produced on PS3 as well, just look at unreal tournament which uses unreal engine both the game on PS3/360 looks exactly the same, and 360 version was released few month after the PS3 version.

also KZ2 has better animation and physics and lighting and HIGH polygon characters!, this is the reason that makes KZ2 look better now i'm not hyping KZ2 as AAA game or AA it might flop but graphic and gameplay are 2 different things. so stop comparing KZ2 with gears cause it's aboslutly pointless! since we know for a fact that gears can be done on PS3 but we don't know for a fact that KZ2 can be done on 360!

navyguy21

Sorry to burst your bubble there, but UT3 is not the same on both consoles, things had to be removed from frames in the PS3 version because of vRAM constraints. No im not a MS fanboy, i work with software for a living, and any person can tell from these pics

http://www.eurogamer.net/gallery.php?game_id=5653&article_id=202623

[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="pminooei"]

people keep saying Gears looks better than KZ2 although i do agree the texture looks better, it doesn't mean the entire game looks better and the reason gears has better texture is not because 360 is more powerful! it's because thats how unreal engine is build! the same texture can be exactly produced on PS3 as well, just look at unreal tournament which uses unreal engine both the game on PS3/360 looks exactly the same, and 360 version was released few month after the PS3 version.

also KZ2 has better animation and physics and lighting and HIGH polygon characters!, this is the reason that makes KZ2 look better now i'm not hyping KZ2 as AAA game or AA it might flop but graphic and gameplay are 2 different things. so stop comparing KZ2 with gears cause it's aboslutly pointless! since we know for a fact that gears can be done on PS3 but we don't know for a fact that KZ2 can be done on 360!

Snugenz

Sorry to burst your bubble there, but UT3 is not the same on both consoles, things had to be removed from frames in the PS3 version because of vRAM constraints. No im not a MS fanboy, i work with software for a living, and any person can tell from these pics

http://www.eurogamer.net/gallery.php?game_id=5653&article_id=202623

That link is crazy, i never really noticed big differences in PS3 vs 360 multiplat comparisons but its impossible not to notice the big chunks missing in the PS3 version. :shock:

[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="pminooei"]

people keep saying Gears looks better than KZ2 although i do agree the texture looks better, it doesn't mean the entire game looks better and the reason gears has better texture is not because 360 is more powerful! it's because thats how unreal engine is build! the same texture can be exactly produced on PS3 as well, just look at unreal tournament which uses unreal engine both the game on PS3/360 looks exactly the same, and 360 version was released few month after the PS3 version.

also KZ2 has better animation and physics and lighting and HIGH polygon characters!, this is the reason that makes KZ2 look better now i'm not hyping KZ2 as AAA game or AA it might flop but graphic and gameplay are 2 different things. so stop comparing KZ2 with gears cause it's aboslutly pointless! since we know for a fact that gears can be done on PS3 but we don't know for a fact that KZ2 can be done on 360!

karasill

Sorry to burst your bubble there, but UT3 is not the same on both consoles, things had to be removed from frames in the PS3 version because of vRAM constraints. No im not a MS fanboy, i work with software for a living, and any person can tell from these pics

http://www.eurogamer.net/gallery.php?game_id=5653&article_id=202623

So youre saying you didnt notice things missing in the PS3 frames that were present in the 360 version? Things in the distance, objects on walls, whole buildings gone???

[QUOTE="Snugenz"][QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="pminooei"]

people keep saying Gears looks better than KZ2 although i do agree the texture looks better, it doesn't mean the entire game looks better and the reason gears has better texture is not because 360 is more powerful! it's because thats how unreal engine is build! the same texture can be exactly produced on PS3 as well, just look at unreal tournament which uses unreal engine both the game on PS3/360 looks exactly the same, and 360 version was released few month after the PS3 version.

also KZ2 has better animation and physics and lighting and HIGH polygon characters!, this is the reason that makes KZ2 look better now i'm not hyping KZ2 as AAA game or AA it might flop but graphic and gameplay are 2 different things. so stop comparing KZ2 with gears cause it's aboslutly pointless! since we know for a fact that gears can be done on PS3 but we don't know for a fact that KZ2 can be done on 360!

karasill

Sorry to burst your bubble there, but UT3 is not the same on both consoles, things had to be removed from frames in the PS3 version because of vRAM constraints. No im not a MS fanboy, i work with software for a living, and any person can tell from these pics

http://www.eurogamer.net/gallery.php?game_id=5653&article_id=202623

That link is crazy, i never really noticed big differences in PS3 vs 360 multiplat comparisons but its impossible not to notice the big chunks missing in the PS3 version. :shock:

Are you seriously calling buildings and big ass trees "little" ?

[QUOTE="karasill"][QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="pminooei"]

people keep saying Gears looks better than KZ2 although i do agree the texture looks better, it doesn't mean the entire game looks better and the reason gears has better texture is not because 360 is more powerful! it's because thats how unreal engine is build! the same texture can be exactly produced on PS3 as well, just look at unreal tournament which uses unreal engine both the game on PS3/360 looks exactly the same, and 360 version was released few month after the PS3 version.

also KZ2 has better animation and physics and lighting and HIGH polygon characters!, this is the reason that makes KZ2 look better now i'm not hyping KZ2 as AAA game or AA it might flop but graphic and gameplay are 2 different things. so stop comparing KZ2 with gears cause it's aboslutly pointless! since we know for a fact that gears can be done on PS3 but we don't know for a fact that KZ2 can be done on 360!

navyguy21

Sorry to burst your bubble there, but UT3 is not the same on both consoles, things had to be removed from frames in the PS3 version because of vRAM constraints. No im not a MS fanboy, i work with software for a living, and any person can tell from these pics

http://www.eurogamer.net/gallery.php?game_id=5653&article_id=202623

So youre saying you didnt notice things missing in the PS3 frames that were present in the 360 version? Things in the distance, objects on walls, whole buildings gone???

[QUOTE="karasill"][QUOTE="Snugenz"][QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="pminooei"]

people keep saying Gears looks better than KZ2 although i do agree the texture looks better, it doesn't mean the entire game looks better and the reason gears has better texture is not because 360 is more powerful! it's because thats how unreal engine is build! the same texture can be exactly produced on PS3 as well, just look at unreal tournament which uses unreal engine both the game on PS3/360 looks exactly the same, and 360 version was released few month after the PS3 version.

also KZ2 has better animation and physics and lighting and HIGH polygon characters!, this is the reason that makes KZ2 look better now i'm not hyping KZ2 as AAA game or AA it might flop but graphic and gameplay are 2 different things. so stop comparing KZ2 with gears cause it's aboslutly pointless! since we know for a fact that gears can be done on PS3 but we don't know for a fact that KZ2 can be done on 360!

Snugenz

Sorry to burst your bubble there, but UT3 is not the same on both consoles, things had to be removed from frames in the PS3 version because of vRAM constraints. No im not a MS fanboy, i work with software for a living, and any person can tell from these pics

http://www.eurogamer.net/gallery.php?game_id=5653&article_id=202623

That link is crazy, i never really noticed big differences in PS3 vs 360 multiplat comparisons but its impossible not to notice the big chunks missing in the PS3 version. :shock:

Are you seriously calling buildings and big ass trees "little" ?

What frame had whole buildings gone? I might have missed that one.karasill

The 8th one and the 6th one ;)

What does PS3 running the unreal engine have too do with graphics comparison? Sure thePS3 can have equally good textures as the xbox360 but that means you have too remove something else..

Both the Xbox360 and PS3 could definitly run a game using the cryengine 2 just as good as the PC if there isn't too much to render.. Likewise Xbox and PS running Unreal tournament 3 equally good doesn't mean the PS3 can run GeOW 2 as well as the Xbox..

unreal engine sucks and it is very old, just like epic game a has been!!!!

this one i so such much better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bveGvf-kML0

What frame had whole buildings gone? I might have missed that one.karasill

These. Take a look at the trees and the building on the mountain in the first 2, and the draw distance and buildings in the last 2

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nothing comes close the model and animation complexity and texture work being used in Gears 2... nothing I've seen yet at least.3picuri3

If by "texture work" you mean normal mapping, then yes. Normal mapping =/= textures. If you disable the normal mapping in the Pc version, you'll see what Gears textures actually look like. And those character models you were praising, without the mapping, are actually pretty standard models.

And animation? Gears animation was nothing to be excited about; KZ2's animation is lightyears better. Although KZ2's animation, IMO, is a little too exaggerated. So I could understand why you pefer Gears. But call it what it is, don't say the textures are great. Say that they do an excellent job mapping it out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bveGvf-kML0

epic games sucks at making games now lol

blackdreamhunk

Way to go MCcain

[QUOTE="3picuri3"]nothing comes close the model and animation complexity and texture work being used in Gears 2... nothing I've seen yet at least.organic_machine

If by "texture work" you mean normal mapping, then yes. Normal mapping =/= textures. If you disable the normal mapping in the Pc version, you'll see what Gears textures actually look like. And those character models you were praising, without the mapping, are actually pretty standard models.

And animation? Gears animation was nothing to be excited about; KZ2's animation is lightyears better. Although KZ2's animation, IMO, is a little too exaggerated. So I could understand why you pefer Gears. But call it what it is, don't say the textures are great. Say that they do an excellent job mapping it out.

Gears of war has great textures. There i said it.

If by "texture work" you mean normal mapping, then yes. Normal mapping =/= textures. If you disable the normal mapping in the Pc version, you'll see what Gears textures actually look like. And those character models you were praising, without the mapping, are actually pretty standard models.

organic_machine

[QUOTE="karasill"] What frame had whole buildings gone? I might have missed that one.Snugenz

The 8th one and the 6th one ;)

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

[QUOTE="karasill"] What frame had whole buildings gone? I might have missed that one.karasill

The 8th one and the 6th one ;)

Did i ever say they'd make an impact playing the game? no

I said as a comparison the differences are pretty glaring unlike most other comparisons concerning 360 vs PS3 multiplats.

[QUOTE="karasill"][QUOTE="Snugenz"]

[QUOTE="karasill"] What frame had whole buildings gone? I might have missed that one.Snugenz

The 8th one and the 6th one ;)

Did i ever say they'd make an impact playing the game? no

I said as a comparison the differences are pretty glaring unlike most other comparisons concerning 360 vs PS3 multiplats.

[QUOTE="Snugenz"][QUOTE="karasill"][QUOTE="Snugenz"]

[QUOTE="karasill"] What frame had whole buildings gone? I might have missed that one.karasill

The 8th one and the 6th one ;)

Did i ever say they'd make an impact playing the game? no

I said as a comparison the differences are pretty glaring unlike most other comparisons concerning 360 vs PS3 multiplats.

Aye thats true, but we do have the frames and it is a noticeable difference is all i'm saying (compared to most other comparisons). ;)

Should it make PS3 UT3 players unhappy or is it a 1up for 360 owners, of course not because why would you care about the other version if you're enjoying the game.

here check out the new high tech state of the art engine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw_QBGUYmy0

Normal maps work quite a bit differently, but IMO to say it's not texturing is a big stretch. Normal maps are just textures after all, and the art of tweaking them and applying them to models is overall pretty similar to how you'd apply a regular diffuse map.

But yes I agree a big part of what makes Gears and other UE3 games look the way they do is the big high-res normal maps. It adds quite a bit of detail. Teufelhuhn

You're right. It was a little bit of an exaggeration. I am of the party the believes that normal mapping should exist to give textures and models and enviornments that extra edge. But games like Gears depend completely on normal mapping to look bearable. And because of this, it bothers me when people praise Gears' graphics.

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]Normal maps work quite a bit differently, but IMO to say it's not texturing is a big stretch. Normal maps are just textures after all, and the art of tweaking them and applying them to models is overall pretty similar to how you'd apply a regular diffuse map.

But yes I agree a big part of what makes Gears and other UE3 games look the way they do is the big high-res normal maps. It adds quite a bit of detail. organic_machine

You're right. It was a little bit of an exaggeration. I am of the party the believes that normal mapping should exist to give textures and models and enviornments that extra edge. But games like Gears depend completely on normal mapping to look bearable. And because of this, it bothers me when people praise Gears' graphics.

Resistance2 looks better then gears1.5, Killzone2 destroys ALL!!killzowned24

you guys do that to every M$ game lol, have fun with killzone 1.5 (i can do that too)

Yup

Innovazero2000

Wow thats amazing, far more impressive than anything I've seen from Killzone 2.

people keep saying Gears looks better than KZ2 although i do agree the texture looks better, it doesn't mean the entire game looks better and the reason gears has better texture is not because 360 is more powerful! it's because thats how unreal engine is build! the same texture can be exactly produced on PS3 as well, just look at unreal tournament which uses unreal engine both the game on PS3/360 looks exactly the same, and 360 version was released few month after the PS3 version.

also KZ2 has better animation and physics and lighting and HIGH polygon characters!, this is the reason that makes KZ2 look better now i'm not hyping KZ2 as AAA game or AA it might flop but graphic and gameplay are 2 different things. so stop comparing KZ2 with gears cause it's aboslutly pointless! since we know for a fact that gears can be done on PS3 but we don't know for a fact that KZ2 can be done on 360!

pminooei

Gears 2 runs on unreal engine 3.5. i see no ps3 game using that!!! ;)

Sure, for a PS3 game, KZ2 will be a good looking game when it releases...

but I doubt very much that it will look as good as Gears2

KZ2 can easily be done on the 360, don't kid yourself.Nedemis

KZ2 can easily be done on the 360, don't kid yourself.Nedemis

Resistance2 looks better then gears1.5, Killzone2 destroys ALL!!killzowned24

NO!

KZ2 can easily be done on the 360, don't kid yourself.Nedemis

Gears uses the unreal engine!

Stop the presses!