General E3 2009 Discussion - System Wars Style [UPDATED 1.4]

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#1 TREAL_Since
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Putting the "WINNING" of E3 Into Perspective

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Gamespot E3 Board


There are many E3/Announcements/New Game threads. So I wanted to make my own to organize all of the frantic thoughts and wishes of forumites as well as to express my own view on E3 this year.

My head hurts from seeing random threads and posts about "Microsoft will do this" or "Sony will do this" to win. While at the same time no one ever mentions Nintendo or ALL three together.


Furthermore, some fanboys act like E3 has already been "WON" by a particular company and/or that E3 will be "WON" with just ONE game.


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[[[ WHAT IT TAKES ]]]

  • Showing interesting footage of games previously announced
  • Revealing a new installment of an existing IP
  • Revealing of a brand new Intellectual Property
  • "Stealing" or acquiring an exclusive from another console
  • Announcing new features for a platform and/or console infrastructure
  • Announcement of new hardware or redesign of existing console
  • Price cut for existing console
  • Revealing brand new hardware to compliment/expand existing console

Who will offer the MOST of the aforementioned bullet points? THIS is who will "WIN". Sure it boils down to your preference. But to be fair and reasonable this is what it takes to "WIN" E3 (even though it can't be won, it's for the gamers).

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[[[ E3 2009 FAIL ]]]


Need a pic for PS Motion controller!


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[[[ MEGATON ]]]

This section is for MEGATON announcements. Be warned.


MEGATON 1:

STAR CRAFT 2 2009 Release Date Confirmed

MEGATON 2:

MEATL GEAR SOLID: RISING Announced Multiplat

MEGATON 3:

METROID: OTHER M - Team Ninja + Nintendo

MEGATON 4:

Rockstar PS3 Exclusive "Agent"

MEGATON 5:

Hannah Montana PSP



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[[[ THE NO SHOWS ]]]

The games, functionalities, and announcements that 'stood' us up. Sort of like that date last weekend :(

NO SHOW 1:

RARE... Where Art Thou :(?

NO SHOW 2:

ZELDA WII.. We Need You! :(

NO SHOW 3:

NCSoft...What happened to the PS3 contract?

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[[[ THE LIST ]]]

Exclusives, Timed Exclusives, Stolen Exclusives, Hardware, Functionality, and PC Shared Titles... No Full Multiplats



NINTENDO: 49 Exclusives, 2 PC Shared Titles

- Super Mario Galaxy 2

- Metroid: Other M

- Resident Evil Archives: Resident Evil (Wii)

- Resident Evil: The Darkside Chronicles (Wii)

- Spyborgs (Wii)

- Wii Music (Wii)

- Wii Sports Resort (Wii)

- Sin and Punishment 2 (Wii)

- Tatsunoko vs. Capcom: Ultimate All Stars (Wii)

- Redneck Chicken Riot (Wii)

- Battle Rage 3D: The Robot Wars (Wii)

- Connie Talbot: Over the Rainbow (Wii)

- Farmyard Party: Featuring the Olympigs (Wii)

- Golf Training (Wii)

- Kids Sports: Crazy Mini Golf (Wii)

- Spectrobes: Origins (Wii)

- Toy Story Mania (Wii)

- The Hardy Boys: The Hidden Theft (Wii)

- Yoga (Wii)

- EA Sports Active (Wii)

- Dead Space Extraction (Wii)

- Grand Slam Tennis (Wii)

- Spore Hero (Wii)

- Muramasa: The Demon Blade (Wii)

- Silent Hill: Shattered Memories (Wii)

- A Boy and His Blob (Wii)

- Flip's Twisted World (Wii)

- Jillian Michaels' Fitness Ultimatum 2010 (Wii)

- Our House: Party (Wii)

- Pizza Boy (Wii)

- Arc Rise Fantasia (Wii)

- Little King's Story (Wii)

- Active Life: Extreme Challenge (Wii)

- Animal Kingdom: Wildlife Expedition (Wii)

- Harvest Moon: Animal Parade (Wii)

- Harvest Moon: My Little Shop (Wii)

- Reel Fishing: Angler's Dream (Wii)

- No More Heroes: Desperate Struggle (Wii)

- The Grinder (Wii)

- Valhalla Knights: Eldar Saga (Wii)

- JU-ON: The Grudge (Wii)

- Robocalypse: Beaver Defense (Wii)

- Rabbids Go Home (Wii)

- Red Steel 2 (Wii)

- All Star Cheer Squad 2 (Wii)

- Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Crystal Bearers (Wii)

- Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: My Life as a Dark Lord (Wii)

- Final Fantasy IV: The After Years (Wii)

- Sled Shred (Wii)

- The Conduit (Wii)

- Golden Sun (DS)

- My Baby 2 (DS)

- Ragnarok Online DS (DS)

- Flower, Sun, and Rain (DS)

- Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days (DS)

- Dementium II (DS)

- Jillian Michaels' Pocket Trainer 2010 (DS)

- My Hero: Astronaut (DS)

- Harvest Moon: Frantic Farming (DS)

- Harvest Moon: Sunshine Islands (DS)

- Squishy Tank (DS)

- City Life DS (DS)

- Imagine: Family Doctor (DS)

- The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks (DS)

- Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen -- Autobots (DS)

- Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen -- Decepticons (DS)

- Knights in the Nightmare (DS)

- Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor (DS)

- Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth (DS)

- Mega Man Star Force 3: Black Ace (DS)

- Mega Man Star Force 3: Red Joker (DS)

- I Love Beauty: Hollywood Makeover (DS)

- Logic Machines (DS)

- Sushi Academy (DS)

- Wizards of Waverly Place (DS)

- Agatha Christie: The ABC Murders (DS)

- Prank Your Neighbor (DS)

- The Legend of Kay (DS)

- Spore Hero Arena (DS)

- Nostalgia (DS)

- Monster Racers (DS)

- Monster Mayhem: Build and Battle (DS, Wii)

- MySims Agents (DS, Wii)

- Need for Speed Nitro (DS, Wii)

- So Blonde (DS, Wii)

- The Lord of the Rings: Aragorn's Quest (DS, Wii)

- Sushi Go Round (DS, Wii)

- Fast Food Panic (DS, Wii)

- Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games (DS, Wii)

- Scrabble Interactive: 2009 Edition (DS, Wii)

- The Price is Right 2010 (DS, PC, Wii)

- Press Your Luck 2010 (DS, PC, Wii)


MICROSOFT: 7 Exclusives, 1 New Hardware, 3 New Functionalites, 10 PC Shared Titles

- NATAL (Hardware)


- Zune Video (Functionality)

- Facebook (Functionality)

- Twitter (Functionality)

- Halo 3: ODST (X360)

- Halo Reach (X360)

- Crackdown 2 (X360)

- Forza 3 (X360)

- The Bigs 2 (X360)

- Shadow Complex (X360)

- New Racing Live Arcade

- Left 4 Dead 2 (PC, 360)

- Mass Effect 2 (PC, 360)

- Alan Wake (PC, 360)

- Venetica (PC, X360)

- Arcania (PC, X360)

- Darkest of Days (PC, X360)

- Section 8 (PC, X360)

- Divinity 2: Ego Draconis (PC, X360)

- Supreme Commander 2 (PC, X360)

- Splintercell Conviction (PC, X360)


SONY: 20 Exclusives (PS3), 2 New Hardware, 1 New PSN Functionality, 3 PC Shared Titles

- PSP Go (Hardware)

- PS3 Motion Wand (Hardware)

- God of War 3 (PS3)

- Afrika (PS3)

- Demon's Souls (PS3)

- Heavy Rain (PS3)

- Gran Turismo 5 (PS3)

- The Last Guardian (PS3)

- Uncharted 2: Among Thieves (PS3)

- Ratchet Crack (PS3)

- ModNation Racers (PS3)

- The Agent (PS3)

- Final Fantasy Versus XIII (PS3)

- inFAMOUS (PS3)

- Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 (PS3)

- MAG (PS3)

- Trinity: Souls of Zill O'll (PS3)

- White Knight Chronicles (PS3)

- Katamari Forever (PS3)

- Gran Turismo Mobile (PSP)

- Dissidia Final Fantasy (PSP)

- Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker (PSP)

- Adventures to Go (PSP)

- PixelJunk Monsters Deluxe (PSP)

- C|ass of Heroes (PSP)

- SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs Fireteam Bravo 3 (PSP)

- Shin Megami Tensei: Persona (PSP)

- Steambot Chronicles: Battle Tournament (PSP)

- Fate/Unlimited Codes (PSP)

- Monster Hunter Freedom Unite (PSP)

- Hannah Montana: Rock Out the Show (PSP)

- Warriors Orochi 2 (PSP)

- Pangya: Fantasy Golf (PSP)

- Unbound Saga (PSP)

- Resident Evil (PSP)

- Jak and Daxter: The Lost Frontier (PS2, PSP)

- MotorStorm: Arctic Edge (PS2, PSP)

- Singstar: Queen (PS2, PS3)

- DC Universe Online (PC, PS3)

- The Agency (PC, PS3)

- Final Fantasy 14 (PC, PS3)

- Fat Princess (PS3)

- Pain! Sore Spots (PS3)

- PixelJunk Shooter (PS3)

- VidZone (PSN Functionality)


PC: 34 Exclusives

- APB

- Disciples III: Renaissance

- Neo Steam: The Shattered Continent

- Rise of Flight

- Victory: The Age of Racing

- Black Mirror 2

- Drakensang: The River of Time

- Ghost Pirates of Voojoo Island

- Spellforce Faith in Destiny

- Runes of Magic

- Painkiller: Resurrection

- 757 Captain

- Air Hauler

- Traffic X

- Warbirds of WWII

- World Airports 3: North America

- OurWorld

- Taikodom

- Huxley: The Dystopia

- East India Company

- Hearts of Iron III

- Majesty 2: The Fantasy Kingdom Sim

- Mount & Blade: Warband

- Ether Saga Online

- Jade Dynasty

- Perfect World

- Torchlight

- My Fitness

- Adventure Generation Online

- Kingdom Heroes 2

- CrimeCraft

- Project Heroes

- Order of War

- Heroes of Telara

- Darkest of Days (PC, X360)

- Section 8 (PC, X360)

- Venetica (PC, X360)

- Divinity 2: Ego Draconis (PC, X360)

- Supreme Commander 2 (PC, X360)

- DC Universe Online (PC, PS3)

- The Agency (PC, PS3)


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I will edit the lists as announcements are posted.

CREDITS

--- Pics and Thread made by TREAL_Since

--- Fail pic by BoloTheGreat

--- Some thought from Episode_Eve and XturnalS

--- IGN E3 List

--- E3 itself!

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#2 CannedWorms
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IMO, the company that wins is the one who announce products that hasn't been announced. I think Sony's E3 will be dissapointing because most of their big guns are getting leaked.

Sony products that has been leaked:

  • PSP Go!
  • Metal Gear PSP
  • Gran Turismo PSP
  • Final Fantasty VII PS1 Classic (rumored)
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#3 Generalmojo
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Hey nice thread :D

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#4 SMR-Venom
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Lol...the "actual" Nintendo list is pathetic...they better have something up their sleeves.
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#5 stike22
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Are you being serious? go to Wii forum or even some system wars threads and you'll find plenty of people saying Wii will rule E3. All consoles have games to be shown but like the past couple of years I reckon X360 being the standard console for most of the third party devs will offer the most.
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#6 ActicEdge
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Finally, a thread by a user who is not openly bias. I agree, let's keep it all in one place. Tomorrow is going too be sick. (waits for forums to crash :P)

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#8 angry_fork
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Good thread TC. E3 here we come.

If Microsoft announces REAL 360 exclusives like 3-4 I may get a 360. I just don't want them to go to PC since I already have a gaming PC, I know Rare's games stay on 360 so that's a lock but I need more.

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#9 ActicEdge
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Lol...the "actual" Nintendo list is pathetic...they better have something up their sleeves.SMR-Venom

They still have the games not released since the fall conference like Sin and Punishment 2 and Dynamic Slash. They'll be alright.

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#10 Floppy_Jim
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Good work, you should ask a mod to sticky it in time for tomorrow.
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#11 Scoob64
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wow... nice post...

my dream E3 would consist of...

StarCraft 2 being released by August...

Mario Universe* announced for Wii

New (even darker- more plot driven) Zelda for Wii

Ninja Gaiden 3 announced for 360

Dead or Alive 5 announced for 360

Street Fighter III announced for PSP

Virtua Fighter 6 announced for arcades/360

A Jackie Chan video game sequel

Final Fight HD Remix w/ online play announced

Super Mario RPG: Return of Smithy for Wii

Marvel vs Capcom 3

...I dream big :)

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#12 shutdown_202
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About time one of these threads popped up, nice one TREAL.

Cmooooon Nintendo, show us the goods!

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#13 alphamale1989
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Lol...the "actual" Nintendo list is pathetic...they better have something up their sleeves.SMR-Venom
But this isn't a suprise, Nintendo has always been big on keeping things under wraps.
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#14 Nike_Air
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I think the conference presentation also plays a factor .... and how these companies handle their casual offerings.

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#15 Solid_Max13
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You can't Win E3 imo it's either you have a good show or a bad show, either way it's who showcases whatever appeals to everyone.
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#16 mitu123
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The PS3 doesn't have much, 360 looks more interesting to me.

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#17 ForsakenWicked
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Nice thread. They should stick it so that all E3 discussion happens here.
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#18 TaMuK711
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Sexy thread, and I agree with the contents of it completely

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#19 ANIALATOR136
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The PS3 doesn't have much, 360 looks more interesting to me.

mitu123
360 list looks absolutely terrible
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#20 Generalmojo
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The PS3 doesn't have much, 360 looks more interesting to me.

mitu123

becuase of ME2 and AlanWake right? :P hehe i know:D

anyway i hope Sony do another presentation using LBP, last years was pretty cool. :D

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#21 Generalmojo
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The PS3 doesn't have much, 360 looks more interesting to me.

mitu123

becuase of ME2 and AlanWake right? :P hehe i know how you tink:D

anyway i hope Sony do another presentation using LBP, last years was pretty cool. :D

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#22 heretrix
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Awesome effort. Props on the thread. I wish everyone luck for this years E3.May all your dreams come true.

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I like this thread. :D

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#24 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

The PS3 doesn't have much, 360 looks more interesting to me.

ANIALATOR136

360 list looks absolutely terrible

What do you mean, Alan Wake, APB, Rare game, Splinter Cell Conviction, Halo ODST are more than enough. All PS3 got is games I could care less about like God of War 3, the others aren't that big of a deal besides Heavy Rain. Ratchet could flop again but not saying it will, MAG will be tough to pull off, Uncharted 2 will need to do something drastic, Gran Turismo 5 could be overrated like Gran Turismo 3 or great like Gran Turismo 2.Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 will need some serious improvements over Ninja Gaiden 2. Just saying.

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[QUOTE="SMR-Venom"]Lol...the "actual" Nintendo list is pathetic...they better have something up their sleeves.ActicEdge

They still have the games not released since the fall conference like Sin and Punishment 2 and Dynamic Slash. They'll be alright.

Yes yes I know. S & P 2 is highly anticipated by me. Dynamic Slash I need more information on (but it looks like a cool IP, especially with M+ if that is the direction Nintendo is gonna take with it!). I was referring to games that have not been announced/have no footage.
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#26 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="SMR-Venom"]Lol...the "actual" Nintendo list is pathetic...they better have something up their sleeves.SMR-Venom

They still have the games not released since the fall conference like Sin and Punishment 2 and Dynamic Slash. They'll be alright.

Yes yes I know. S & P 2 is highly anticipated by me. Dynamic Slash I need more information on (but it looks like a cool IP, especially with M+ if that is the direction Nintendo is gonna take with it!). I was referring to games that have not been announced/have no footage.

I see. Well, hopefully they surprise us. I don't have much room in my gaming fund as it is though :P

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[QUOTE="ANIALATOR136"][QUOTE="mitu123"]

The PS3 doesn't have much, 360 looks more interesting to me.

mitu123

360 list looks absolutely terrible

What do you mean, Alan Wake, APB, Rare game, Splinter Cell Conviction, Halo ODST are more than enough. All PS3 got is games I could care less about like God of War 3, the others aren't that big of a deal besides Heavy Rain.Ratchet could flop again but not saying it will, MAG will be tough to pull off, Uncharted 2 will need to do something drastic, Gran Turismo 5 could beoverrated like Gran Turismo 3 or great like Gran Turismo 2. Just saying.

Well we are on gamespot so that could happen lol

Uncharted has online c0-op and multiplayer, im sure thats enough

GT3 was amazing, visually and gameplay.

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#28 BioShockOwnz
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The media will choose the winner. If you watch E3 coverage and/or listen to podcasts, then it'll be quite obvious as to who "won" E3.

Most PS3 and PSP games, including the new PSP hardware, have already been revealed, taking some steam out of Sony's showing. What new will they reveal?

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#29 chocolate1325
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This is a very good thread.

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#30 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="ANIALATOR136"] 360 list looks absolutely terribleGeneralmojo

What do you mean, Alan Wake, APB, Rare game, Splinter Cell Conviction, Halo ODST are more than enough. All PS3 got is games I could care less about like God of War 3, the others aren't that big of a deal besides Heavy Rain.Ratchet could flop again but not saying it will, MAG will be tough to pull off, Uncharted 2 will need to do something drastic, Gran Turismo 5 could beoverrated like Gran Turismo 3 or great like Gran Turismo 2. Just saying.

Well we are on gamespot so that could happen lol

Uncharted has online c0-op and multiplayer, im sure thats enough

GT3 was amazing, visually and gameplay.

I wasn't a big fan of GT3, it had great graphics, but gameplay, it was good, I didn't like a whole lot of the tracks, even GT4 was better. And Uncharted 2 having online is good enough, I agree, sorry about that, LOL. I do love Ratchet and Clank, but I don't want another one to flop again, hype it A next time, LOL, nah, it's AA.

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#31 agentfred
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Just like past years, I think it'll be pretty hard to guess which company will come out on top. My money is on MS, just because they need to deliver.

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#32 MyNameisaMeme
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Great thread. Can we get a sticky?:D

If everything on that first list were to be announced, this would be the craziest E3 of all time. But, alas, it will be another disappointment.

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#33 Holyknight_CJ
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Trico, the game so good, you had to list it twice;).

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#34 chocolate1325
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I am hoping we will hear about God of War 3,Bayonetta and a few more like Tekken 6.

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#35 BioShockOwnz
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I am hoping we will hear about God of War 3,Bayonetta and a few more like Tekken 6.

chocolate1325

All 3 of those are a given. Gameplay demos.

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#36 gamerdude970
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why would the 360 need a price cut its already dirt cheap

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#37 AAllxxjjnn
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So, when does it start? Who's conference is tomorrow?
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#38 gamerdude970
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and why would the zune be annouced at e3 it has nothin to do with games

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#39 gamerdude970
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So, when does it start? Who's conference is tomorrow? AAllxxjjnn

microsofts press confrence is tommorrow at 10:30

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#40 daveg1
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nothing but rehashes from all of them more so from nintendo!
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#41 piercetruth34
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Nice. I tried to do something like this the other day but I don't really know what nintendo is doing... I think the only thing wrong there is Splinter Cell, Gay Tony, Lost planet 2, a new lionhead game and the vid camera are all confirmed and actual for MS at this point.

I think every systems lineup is huge.

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#42 CannedWorms
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nothing but rehashes from all of them more so from nintendo!daveg1
:|Obvious troll is obvious?:? And I think you're getting confused between "rehash" and "sequel". Didn't you know? A sequel is supposed to keep the main elements of their predecssors and improve on them. Shocking, I know.

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#43 daveg1
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[QUOTE="daveg1"]nothing but rehashes from all of them more so from nintendo!CannedWorms

:|Obvious troll is obvious?:? And I think you're getting confused between "rehash" and "sequel". Didn't you know? A sequel is supposed to keep the main elements of their predecssors and improve on them. Shocking, I know.

well its a good job you like a rehash..and what do you mean troll am i not allowed to be subjective with something..
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#44 CannedWorms
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[QUOTE="CannedWorms"]

[QUOTE="daveg1"]nothing but rehashes from all of them more so from nintendo!daveg1

:|Obvious troll is obvious?:? And I think you're getting confused between "rehash" and "sequel". Didn't you know? A sequel is supposed to keep the main elements of their predecssors and improve on them. Shocking, I know.

well its a good job you like a rehash..and what do you mean troll am i not allowed to be subjective with something..

I went on your profile and looked at your posts and there is nothing but negativity.

Edit: I'm going to leave it at that, I don't want to ruin all the effort Treal has put into this thread.

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#45 Chiddaling
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Nice thread. I really hope I can finally get back at buying console games. The last console game I bought was GTA IV back in Augest 29, 2008. I mostly buy PC and PSP games now. Come on E3, excite me!!

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#46 daveg1
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when you,ve been playing games as long as me you want something new but all i see nearly every year are rehashes..good day.. p.s. congrats on the good thread TC:)
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#47 aaronmullan
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Pretty good thread. Sums everything up nicely :D
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#48 finesse-gamer
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what about PC?

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#49 G-O-M-J
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Really lookin forward to this years e3, it could be the best yet!
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#50 PS360_Gamer
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this list is missing alot of games