GeOW was short & yet it got AAA statues. Why the hate on HS?

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#1 THE_PREZIDENT
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I was thinking of picking up HS in 3 days. Thought there was allot hype behind it just like gears of war. Thought it would at least score a 9.0. Oh well, I guess as long as I have fun with it.
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#2 Knewl2
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Gears had co-op, online, it was longer than 6 hours, it wasnt as linear gamelay so even the campaign had more replay, achievments ect....
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#3 JediMoogle
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Gears also has competitive multiplayer as well as online and offline co-op. That tends to add more replay value, and thus more to the score.
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#4 THE_PREZIDENT
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Gears had co-op, online, it was longer than 6 hours, it wasnt as linear gamelay so even the campaign had more replay, achievments ect....Knewl2
Righttttttttttttttttttttttttt. I forgot about that
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#5 club-sandwich
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Co-op, achievements, online, that's why.
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#6 ItalStallion777
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GeOW was a couple hours longer (almost double as long), has co-op, and has online multiplayer. HS has a 6-7 hour single player mode with no online... you see?
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#7 NuclearFreedom
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i would stop complaining and just get the game lol

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#8 TyrantDragon55
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Gears of War had awesome co-op and fairly good versus multiplayer, plus it was longer than Heavenly Sword and actually had things to encourage multiple play-throughs like alternate paths, hidden cog tags, and achievements.
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#9 Zeliard9
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And I know people like to diss on Gears' gameplay, but it wasn't too bad either.
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#10 Da_bomb101
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Gears had some great AI, the AI isnt very good in HS, which weakens the challenge. But the game im sure is still great.

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#11 AfterShafter
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i would stop complaining and just rent the game lol

NuclearFreedom


Fixed.
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#12 jackvegas21
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Multiplayer and co-op IMO

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#13 colmusterd28
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Please don't compare the genious of Gears of War to the currant sony flop... I know Gears, its a friend of mine, Heavanly Sword is no Gear...
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#14 dream431ca
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Multiplayer helped it..but the lag was pretty bad.
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#15 ArisShadows
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I played multiple times, also co-op and multiplayer.

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#16 istreakforfood
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i want to see u try beat geow story mode in 6 hours or less on hardcore and insane mode. casual mode you can basically run right thru it cause AIs are dumb and takes 2-3 hits to kill them.
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#17 JediMoogle
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Multiplayer helped it..but the lag was pretty bad.dream431ca
Was. Now there's almost no lag whatsoever unless you have a bad host or your own connection is bad. Either way, my chainsaw is a weapon of mass destruction so I don't care what makes it that way :twisted:
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#18 Immortal_Evil
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It has one of the best online plays and totally re-invented co-op.
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#19 dru26
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GeoW took me about 10-11 hours to beat on hardcore(which was basically normal). RFom took me about 12 hours to beat on normal. HS is also an adventure game which should be in the 15+ hour range.
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#20 AfterShafter
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Gotta love people asking why this overhyped POS didn't score as well as gears when it wasn't as long as Gears, took a year after gears to look about as good as Gears, didn't have multiplayer likes Gears, didn't have Gears' co-op, had less repayability than Gears, and just wasn't as well put together as Gears.
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#21 ParadiddleFill
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Multiplayer helped it..but the lag was pretty bad.dream431ca

you never played it, ive had gears ever since launch and rarely come upon a game that lags

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#22 HolyHandGrenad3
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Like many other people stated Gears single player is longer than HS, and it has a very good multiplayer and online co-op. Not to mention it was the first next gen game to really wow people in terms of graphics.
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#23 AfterShafter
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It has one of the best online plays and totally re-invented co-op.Immortal_Evil

... how did it re-invent co-op?

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#24 HolyHandGrenad3
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[QUOTE="dream431ca"]Multiplayer helped it..but the lag was pretty bad.ParadiddleFill

you never played it, ive had gears ever since launch and rarely come upon a game that lags

It definitely lags but the solution is simple... Find a good host. Problem solved.

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#25 THE_PREZIDENT
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Please don't compare the genious of Gears of War to the currant sony flop... I know Gears, its a friend of mine, Heavanly Sword is no Gear...
colmusterd28
sarcasm at its finest my dear boy. Lots of people complained that the story in gears sucked and it was to short. KARMA is a B**** might I say.
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#26 THE_PREZIDENT
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Multiplayer helped it..but the lag was pretty bad.dream431ca
must be your connection. My friend always gets lag, and he lives 7 blocks away from me. And in every game, he would some lag and I would'nt.
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#27 plat1num913
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Do people think before making threads?
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[QUOTE="colmusterd28"]Please don't compare the genious of Gears of War to the currant sony flop... I know Gears, its a friend of mine, Heavanly Sword is no Gear...
THE_PREZIDENT
sarcasm at its finest my dear boy. Lots of people complained that the story in gears sucked and it was to short. KARMA is a B**** might I say.

you means cows who never played gears before nor own a 360 in sw.

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The big picture. Does every game has to have a multiplayer or online element to be great? If Sony said Heavenly Sword is a 3 game series, would you accept the fact it's ok the first one was short? Questions an average gamer (kid) would not ask, yet just follow the herd to say "it's too short".
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Gotta love people asking why this overhyped POS didn't score as well as gears when it wasn't as long as Gears, took a year after gears to look about as good as Gears, didn't have multiplayer likes Gears, didn't have Gears' co-op, had less repayability than Gears, and just wasn't as well put together as Gears.AfterShafter

:lol: Damn skippy..

Also, Gears Of War was a complete thrill-ride from begining to end.

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Gears had co-op, online, it was longer than 6 hours, it wasnt as linear gamelay so even the campaign had more replay, achievments ect....Knewl2
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#32 ItalStallion777
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GeoW took me about 10-11 hours to beat on hardcore(which was basically normal). RFom took me about 12 hours to beat on normal. HS is also an adventure game which should be in the 15+ hour range.dru26

think lower...much lower. 6-7 hour single player

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#33 JediMoogle
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The big picture. Does every game has to have a multiplayer or online element to be great? If Sony said Heavenly Sword is a 3 game series, would you accept the fact it's ok the first one was short? Questions an average gamer (kid) would not ask, yet just follow the herd to say "it's too short".James_Lipton
It's possible to add plenty of replay value without making a game multiplayer. It's not difficult. When we spend money, its nice to have our $60-$70 well-spent. Look at games like Oblivion. Easily hundreds of hours of play time. Guess what: it has no multiplayer. Just throwing that out there.
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[QUOTE="Immortal_Evil"]It has one of the best online plays and totally re-invented co-op.AfterShafter

... how did it re-invent co-op?

Probably because the story molded smoothly using co-op, and splitting paths between the two players seemed pretty new for a co-op experience. Im not sure if I completely agree with immortal evil, but I think thats what he meant by it.

Anyway, I played the HS demo and thought it was repetitive 5 minutes into it, I don't know how the hell I would play it for 7 hours.

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The big picture. Does every game has to have a multiplayer or online element to be great? If Sony said Heavenly Sword is a 3 game series, would you accept the fact it's ok the first one was short? Questions an average gamer (kid) would not ask, yet just follow the herd to say "it's too short".James_Lipton
no I do not accept that, I am disappointed, because the first God of War was much longer and had a Challenge of the Titans mode (or something like that) which many gamers spent many hours playing.
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#36 Calo34
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Please don't compare gears to a stupid beat em up for an overpriced system. GeoW was the best 60 bucks I've spent on a game. Have you heard of multiplayer?
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[QUOTE="AfterShafter"]Gotta love people asking why this overhyped POS didn't score as well as gears when it wasn't as long as Gears, took a year after gears to look about as good as Gears, didn't have multiplayer likes Gears, didn't have Gears' co-op, had less repayability than Gears, and just wasn't as well put together as Gears.Pro_wrestler

:lol: Damn skippy..

Also, Gears Of War was a complete thrill-ride from begining to end.

read the HS review, wait you don't even have to do that...just read the heading.
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#38 Rangitahi
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Still buy HS it is STILL a great game.
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#39 CameosisJ
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what about GoW? Is that not in the same boat?
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#40 Art_424
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Multiplayer helped it..but the lag was pretty bad.dream431ca

Must be your Internet connection, cause me and my friends never had problms with lag.

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#41 Verge_6
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1) Gears of War had a killer multiplayer mode

2) Gears of War was longer than that

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#42 joe_g_patton
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1. Gears of War had Chainsaw.

2.Heavenly Flop?.......no chainsaw

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#43 GalvatronType_R
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You're kidding me, right? Please put down the Sony Kool Aid and please detach your lips from Phil Harrison's tushie. Gears was not a short game and certainly not 6 hours long.
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#44 Art_424
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Gears was like 8-9 long.