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1. VGChartz lol
2. PS3 is very strong in western Europe, UK aside. Now that the price has gone down, it has become the bro-gamer console, for people who buy 3 or 4 games a year, first and foremost Fifa and PES. I haven't seen statistics for my country yet, but I'm positive the PS3 did very well during 4th quarter in France too. I work with malls, and people there told me PS3s and Wiis were flying off the shelves.
Yup, especially with their *free* healthcare system the democrats always bang on about.. :roll:
YoYo278
=0 Woah there bud, no need to go all political on us. This is SW, let's just chillax, hmm? =P
Germany weekly software sales 1,962,089(-36%)Japan weekly software sales 1,634,025(-53%)That's because VGChartz doesn't consider digital sales. The PC is the dominant platform in Germany by a large margin.PC Market second in Germany lolmao FTW????HFkami
By the way, Japan is in dire need of PC gaming. It's a fact.
That's because VGChartz doesn't consider digital sales. The PC is the dominant platform in Germany by a large margin.[QUOTE="HFkami"]Germany weekly software sales 1,962,089(-36%)Japan weekly software sales 1,634,025(-53%)
PC Market second in Germany lolmao FTW????RyuRanVII
By the way, Japan is in dire need of PC gaming. It's a fact.
It's a fat.[QUOTE="AzatiS"][QUOTE="g0ddyX"]Europe always had high standards! :P Some have that opinion just like some say the opposite. Personally I would think japan has the highest standards with such a high work ethic.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_net_exportshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_current_account_balancehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capitahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_virtues there are many european countries who have a high work ethic too but it seems like americans doesnt care where their ancestors came from.European having better standards? Since when!?
p4s2p0
there are many european countries who have a high work ethic too but it seems like americans doesnt care where their ancestors came from.HFkami
Alot of mine were here already. The some Irish and Scottish people had sexy time with them, and here I am, the best poster in System Wars history.
Japan has a massive second hand market. The second hand market is about the same size as the first hand (?) market. That's why Japanese software sales are low. (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=27535512&postcount=278) But in YTD, Japan beats Germany and is about the same size as the UK.Eponique
it's the population size that matters, or else Canada would be one of the largest markets.
[QUOTE="Eponique"]Japan has a massive second hand market. The second hand market is about the same size as the first hand (?) market. That's why Japanese software sales are low. (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=27535512&postcount=278) But in YTD, Japan beats Germany and is about the same size as the UK.Ncsoftlover
it's the population size that matters, or else Canada would be one of the largest markets.
I know. I'm just saying that Japanese sales appear low because a lot of games are sold in the second hand market, which won't appear on sales charts like Chartz, who only guess the new sales. [QUOTE="HFkami"] no they dont, the data clearly shows it. I also could argue since pc games are second in sales in germany, there are even more sales in the download sector and even more in the pirating sector. I buy used games too and we have gamestops too here. Also people who buy used games tend to sell or trade their used games for other used games. Youre some kind of Japanophile who is sure is white and is from german ancestry like all americans. Great job at ignoring my post. Japan used sales are bigger than German used sales. Go to both countries and you'll see. In Japan you're not allowed to rent games so the used market has exploded in popularity and there's nothing quite like it anywhere else. And nope, I'm Asian who lives in Canada. No German blood whatsoever. Gosh, if you're going to try to make me sound ignorant, don't sound ignorant yourself :lol:[QUOTE="Eponique"]Japan has a massive second hand market. The second hand market is about the same size as the first hand (?) market. That's why Japanese software sales are low. (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=27535512&postcount=278) But in YTD, Japan beats Germany and is about the same size as the UK.HFkamino they dont, the data clearly shows it. I also could argue since pc games are second in sales in germany, there are even more sales in the download sector and even more in the pirating sector. I buy used games too and we have gamestops too here. Also people who buy used games tend to sell or trade their used games for other used games. Youre some kind of Japanophile who is sure is white and is from german ancestry like all americans.
>ignorantly assuming everyone on this forum is from America
>implying everyone in America is of German descent.
and it boils down to a completely ignorant individual trying to call a group of 300 million people ignorant. you must not be sleeping too well at night if you're coming to SW to throw this ethnicity horse **** around.
no they dont, the data clearly shows it. I also could argue since pc games are second in sales in germany, there are even more sales in the download sector and even more in the pirating sector. I buy used games too and we have gamestops too here. Also people who buy used games tend to sell or trade their used games for other used games. Youre some kind of Japanophile who is sure is white and is from german ancestry like all americans.[QUOTE="HFkami"][QUOTE="Eponique"]Japan has a massive second hand market. The second hand market is about the same size as the first hand (?) market. That's why Japanese software sales are low. (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=27535512&postcount=278) But in YTD, Japan beats Germany and is about the same size as the UK.HavocV3
>ignorantly assuming everyone on this forum is from America
>implying everyone in America is of German descent.
and it boils down to a completely ignorant individual trying to call a group of 300 million people ignorant. you must not be sleeping too well at night if you're coming to SW to throw this ethnicity horse **** around.
german ancestry makes 16% of all americans, they are higher than blacks which are probably from many other west african countries if you could track it and some mixed black people have european ancestry as well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_American[QUOTE="HavocV3"][QUOTE="HFkami"] no they dont, the data clearly shows it. I also could argue since pc games are second in sales in germany, there are even more sales in the download sector and even more in the pirating sector. I buy used games too and we have gamestops too here. Also people who buy used games tend to sell or trade their used games for other used games. Youre some kind of Japanophile who is sure is white and is from german ancestry like all americans.HFkami
>ignorantly assuming everyone on this forum is from America
>implying everyone in America is of German descent.
and it boils down to a completely ignorant individual trying to call a group of 300 million people ignorant. you must not be sleeping too well at night if you're coming to SW to throw this ethnicity horse **** around.
german ancestry makes 16% of all americans, they are higher than blacks which are probably from many other west african countries if you could track it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_AmericanThat bag you have? Put it down and stop using it.
german ancestry makes 16% of all americans, they are higher than blacks which are probably from many other west african countries if you could track it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_American[QUOTE="HFkami"][QUOTE="HavocV3"]
>ignorantly assuming everyone on this forum is from America
>implying everyone in America is of German descent.
and it boils down to a completely ignorant individual trying to call a group of 300 million people ignorant. you must not be sleeping too well at night if you're coming to SW to throw this ethnicity horse **** around.
AppleJudgement
That bag you have? Put it down and stop using it.
racistThat's because VGChartz doesn't consider digital sales. The PC is the dominant platform in Germany by a large margin.[QUOTE="HFkami"]Germany weekly software sales 1,962,089(-36%)Japan weekly software sales 1,634,025(-53%)
PC Market second in Germany lolmao FTW????RyuRanVII
By the way, Japan is in dire need of PC gaming. It's a fact.
PC gaming is actually big in Japan but they play PC games that are only available to them and not to the rest of the world.Why do you care? Who cares really? This doesn't affect anyone. I am aware though that Eastern Europe for instance has a very high amount of PC devs, but no one cares abotu them because those games usually suck. I don't see how one country selling more games than another is important in anyway whatsoever.
[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]Lol Weeaboo am cry.And suddenly VGchartz became a trust worthy source SWs never cease to amaze lol.
percech
What the hell does that word mean? You said it like twice so far, sorry if I'm not cool enough to understand some slang words. And I'm too lazy to google it, and I'm kinda scared to.
Lol Weeaboo am cry.[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]
And suddenly VGchartz became a trust worthy source SWs never cease to amaze lol.
Kashiwaba
Define weeaboo?
"Someone who is obsessed with Japan/Japanese Culture/Anime, etc. and attempts to act as if they were Japanese, even though they're far from it. They use Japanese words but usually end up pronouncing them wrong and sounding like total buttholes."[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"][QUOTE="percech"] Lol Weeaboo am cry.percech
Define weeaboo?
"Someone who is obsessed with Japan/Japanese Culture/Anime, etc. and attempts to act as if they were Japanese, even though they're far from it. They use Japanese words but usually end up pronouncing them wrong and sounding like total buttholes."Hmmmm doesnt completetly fit me but I would consider it as a compiment :D thanks.
[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"][QUOTE="percech"] Lol Weeaboo am cry.percech
Define weeaboo?
"Someone who is obsessed with Japan/Japanese Culture/Anime, etc. and attempts to act as if they were Japanese, even though they're far from it. They use Japanese words but usually end up pronouncing them wrong and sounding like total buttholes."That's what the word means? Why would someone want to be something they arn't? But I don't see anything wrong with admireing some things about a culture, for instance I find that Japan seems to have better family values in their culutre than we do here in the US, I also admire how they take care of their elderly more.
Also when the Tsunami and earthquake happened the Japanese people weren't rioting or killing eachother, if that happened here in the US you can sure as hell bet it we would have behaved like animals.That being said, you shouldn't want to be somthing your not.
I'm a Jewish American so that's my culture and ethnicity, and I have no desire to be Japanese or Italian or Black ect...but I can still admire and appreciate things about that ethnicty and culture. I don't see what's wrong with that. I kinda agree with your point nonetheless, be proud of what you are and don't try to be something else.
"Someone who is obsessed with Japan/Japanese Culture/Anime, etc. and attempts to act as if they were Japanese, even though they're far from it. They use Japanese words but usually end up pronouncing them wrong and sounding like total buttholes."[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]
Define weeaboo?
ShadowMoses900
That's what the word means? Why would someone want to be something they arn't? But I don't see anything wrong with admireing some things about a culture, for instance I find that Japan seems to have better family values in their culutre than we do here in the US, I also admire how they take care of their elderly more. Also when the Tsunami and earthquake happened the Japanese people weren't rioting or killing eachother, if that happened ther ein the US you can sure as hell bet it we would have behaved like animals.
That being said, you shouldn't want to be somthing your not. I'm a Jewish American so that's my culture, and I have no desire to be Japanese or Italian or Black ect...but I can still admire and appreciate things about that ethnicty and culture. I don't see what's wrong with that.
So what you're saying is, Japanese people will do anything their government asks them without any objections simply because of their standards of manners?[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"][QUOTE="percech"] "Someone who is obsessed with Japan/Japanese Culture/Anime, etc. and attempts to act as if they were Japanese, even though they're far from it. They use Japanese words but usually end up pronouncing them wrong and sounding like total buttholes."percech
That's what the word means? Why would someone want to be something they arn't? But I don't see anything wrong with admireing some things about a culture, for instance I find that Japan seems to have better family values in their culutre than we do here in the US, I also admire how they take care of their elderly more. Also when the Tsunami and earthquake happened the Japanese people weren't rioting or killing eachother, if that happened ther ein the US you can sure as hell bet it we would have behaved like animals.
That being said, you shouldn't want to be somthing your not. I'm a Jewish American so that's my culture, and I have no desire to be Japanese or Italian or Black ect...but I can still admire and appreciate things about that ethnicty and culture. I don't see what's wrong with that.
So what you're saying is, Japanese people will do anything their government asks them without any objections simply because of their standards of manners?What he meant is they are more civilized and less barbaric then Americans.
[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"][QUOTE="percech"] "Someone who is obsessed with Japan/Japanese Culture/Anime, etc. and attempts to act as if they were Japanese, even though they're far from it. They use Japanese words but usually end up pronouncing them wrong and sounding like total buttholes."percech
That's what the word means? Why would someone want to be something they arn't? But I don't see anything wrong with admireing some things about a culture, for instance I find that Japan seems to have better family values in their culutre than we do here in the US, I also admire how they take care of their elderly more. Also when the Tsunami and earthquake happened the Japanese people weren't rioting or killing eachother, if that happened ther ein the US you can sure as hell bet it we would have behaved like animals.
That being said, you shouldn't want to be somthing your not. I'm a Jewish American so that's my culture, and I have no desire to be Japanese or Italian or Black ect...but I can still admire and appreciate things about that ethnicty and culture. I don't see what's wrong with that.
So what you're saying is, Japanese people will do anything their government asks them without any objections simply because of their standards of manners?When did I bring up the Japanese government? But Japan from what I understand is a very submissive society, and they have different values. For instance over in their culture being shy is considered a sign of strength, don't know why. I have never been there before but I have friends who are from there or families areand that's what they tell me.
I still don't see what this has to do with Japan's Government.
so youre asian??? What chinese, korean or thai??? And you defend japan tough your ancestors are not japanese???My main point was youre japanophille doesnt matter where you from.. so now lets come to the point of used games its pointless fact, it doesnt bring money to the devolopers so i just ignore your fact cuz i cant proof you wrong but you cant proof me wrong as well. There are no specific data on every used game in every country like germany in comparison to japan, just like with downloading.HFkamiI'm not "defending" Japan, I'm stating the facts. You have to be Japanese to defend Japan now? I'm not even German, so why should I "defend" Germany?
I don't care about either. If you're going to have country warz do it elsewhere, this is System Wars, and you have to argue with facts, not with "you're not Japanese, so you're not allowed to say anything pro-Japanese".
Germany's gaming industry value at €1.937 ($2.46 billion) billion in 2010
Japan's gaming industry value at $5.9 billion in 2010
Now take your nationalist crap elsewhere.
So what you're saying is, Japanese people will do anything their government asks them without any objections simply because of their standards of manners?[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]
That's what the word means? Why would someone want to be something they arn't? But I don't see anything wrong with admireing some things about a culture, for instance I find that Japan seems to have better family values in their culutre than we do here in the US, I also admire how they take care of their elderly more. Also when the Tsunami and earthquake happened the Japanese people weren't rioting or killing eachother, if that happened ther ein the US you can sure as hell bet it we would have behaved like animals.
That being said, you shouldn't want to be somthing your not. I'm a Jewish American so that's my culture, and I have no desire to be Japanese or Italian or Black ect...but I can still admire and appreciate things about that ethnicty and culture. I don't see what's wrong with that.
Kashiwaba
What he meant is they are more civilized and less barbaric then Americans.
If being civilized means being xenophobic then you're right.I'm not "defending" Japan, I'm stating the facts. You have to be Japanese to defend Japan now? I'm not even German, so why should I "defend" Germany?[QUOTE="HFkami"] so youre asian??? What chinese, korean or thai??? And you defend japan tough your ancestors are not japanese???My main point was youre japanophille doesnt matter where you from.. so now lets come to the point of used games its pointless fact, it doesnt bring money to the devolopers so i just ignore your fact cuz i cant proof you wrong but you cant proof me wrong as well. There are no specific data on every used game in every country like germany in comparison to japan, just like with downloading.Eponique
I don't care about either. If you're going to have country warz do it elsewhere, this is System Wars, and you have to argue with facts, not with "you're not Japanese, so you're not allowed to say anything pro-Japanese".
Germany's gaming industry value at €1.937 ($2.46 billion) billion in 2010
Japan's gaming industry value at $5.9 billion in 2010
Now take your nationalist crap elsewhere.
You're obviously playing favorites.[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"][QUOTE="percech"] Lol Weeaboo am cry.percech
Define weeaboo?
"Someone who is obsessed with Japan/Japanese Culture/Anime, etc. and attempts to act as if they were Japanese, even though they're far from it. They use Japanese words but usually end up pronouncing them wrong and sounding like total buttholes."Would that make you a PCeeaboo????
So what you're saying is, Japanese people will do anything their government asks them without any objections simply because of their standards of manners?[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]
That's what the word means? Why would someone want to be something they arn't? But I don't see anything wrong with admireing some things about a culture, for instance I find that Japan seems to have better family values in their culutre than we do here in the US, I also admire how they take care of their elderly more. Also when the Tsunami and earthquake happened the Japanese people weren't rioting or killing eachother, if that happened ther ein the US you can sure as hell bet it we would have behaved like animals.
That being said, you shouldn't want to be somthing your not. I'm a Jewish American so that's my culture, and I have no desire to be Japanese or Italian or Black ect...but I can still admire and appreciate things about that ethnicty and culture. I don't see what's wrong with that.
Kashiwaba
What he meant is they are more civilized and less barbaric then Americans.
lol that's not what I was trying to say, just that when it comes to a time of crisis they act more civilized than we do here. Not that they are more civilized as a whole than we are, and I like how they take care of their elderly where over here we kinda kick them to the curb and try to forget them. And I don't think that's right. Thier society does have problems though, like I don't like how most Japanese stay at one job their whole life and over work ect...
[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"][QUOTE="percech"] So what you're saying is, Japanese people will do anything their government asks them without any objections simply because of their standards of manners? percech
What he meant is they are more civilized and less barbaric then Americans.
If being civilized means being xenophobic then you're right.Define Xenophobic xx;? I dont know whats wrong withh SWs and those big words today not everyone here is a native English speaker.
[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"][QUOTE="percech"] "Someone who is obsessed with Japan/Japanese Culture/Anime, etc. and attempts to act as if they were Japanese, even though they're far from it. They use Japanese words but usually end up pronouncing them wrong and sounding like total buttholes."percech
That's what the word means? Why would someone want to be something they arn't? But I don't see anything wrong with admireing some things about a culture, for instance I find that Japan seems to have better family values in their culutre than we do here in the US, I also admire how they take care of their elderly more. Also when the Tsunami and earthquake happened the Japanese people weren't rioting or killing eachother, if that happened ther ein the US you can sure as hell bet it we would have behaved like animals.
That being said, you shouldn't want to be somthing your not. I'm a Jewish American so that's my culture, and I have no desire to be Japanese or Italian or Black ect...but I can still admire and appreciate things about that ethnicty and culture. I don't see what's wrong with that.
So what you're saying is, Japanese people will do anything their government asks them without any objections simply because of their standards of manners?Sounds like North America frankly. Except remove the manners.
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