He's a dudebro (people who only do things because they're cool; e.g. play Call of Duty or watch too much WWE) if his homophobia, and now his anti-Japan attitude, is anything to go by.Would that make you a PCeeaboo????
milannoir
Germany surpassed Japan in Gaming Sales
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So what you're saying is, Japanese people will do anything their government asks them without any objections simply because of their standards of manners?[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]
That's what the word means? Why would someone want to be something they arn't? But I don't see anything wrong with admireing some things about a culture, for instance I find that Japan seems to have better family values in their culutre than we do here in the US, I also admire how they take care of their elderly more. Also when the Tsunami and earthquake happened the Japanese people weren't rioting or killing eachother, if that happened ther ein the US you can sure as hell bet it we would have behaved like animals.
That being said, you shouldn't want to be somthing your not. I'm a Jewish American so that's my culture, and I have no desire to be Japanese or Italian or Black ect...but I can still admire and appreciate things about that ethnicty and culture. I don't see what's wrong with that.
Kashiwaba
What he meant is they are more civilized and less barbaric then Americans.
Americans is such a wide term unfortunately. Its one of the countries in the world where the gap between the wealthiest and the poorest is growing the fastest. Unfortunately, America gets a bad rep for a lot of things (the government is to blame for that)
If being civilized means being xenophobic then you're right.[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]
What he meant is they are more civilized and less barbaric then Americans.
Kashiwaba
Define Xenophobic xx;? I dont know whats wrong withh SWs and those big words today not everyone here is a native English speaker.
suffering from xenophobia; having abnormal fear or hatred of the strange or foreign.[QUOTE="Eponique"]I'm not "defending" Japan, I'm stating the facts. You have to be Japanese to defend Japan now? I'm not even German, so why should I "defend" Germany?[QUOTE="HFkami"] so youre asian??? What chinese, korean or thai??? And you defend japan tough your ancestors are not japanese???My main point was youre japanophille doesnt matter where you from.. so now lets come to the point of used games its pointless fact, it doesnt bring money to the devolopers so i just ignore your fact cuz i cant proof you wrong but you cant proof me wrong as well. There are no specific data on every used game in every country like germany in comparison to japan, just like with downloading.percech
I don't care about either. If you're going to have country warz do it elsewhere, this is System Wars, and you have to argue with facts, not with "you're not Japanese, so you're not allowed to say anything pro-Japanese".
Germany's gaming industry value at €1.937 ($2.46 billion) billion in 2010
Japan's gaming industry value at $5.9 billion in 2010
Now take your nationalist crap elsewhere.
You're obviously playing favorites.Its not even favourites really, Japan has a very different video game market than the rest of the western world and as such different types of games show dominance. This was simply a down trending year for Japan with the Wii weakening, the PS3 continuing mediocrity and the PSP and DS being replaced. Next year it'll likely be a different story. I agree with you that used sales aren't really the issue though. If you look at the US its experiencing fairly steady sales and it has the largest used games market.
[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"][QUOTE="percech"] If being civilized means being xenophobic then you're right. percech
Define Xenophobic xx;? I dont know whats wrong withh SWs and those big words today not everyone here is a native English speaker.
suffering from xenophobia; having abnormal fear or hatred of the strange or foreign.How do you justify saying this? I can understand if you mean it in terms of gaming but I'm unsure about what else you can come up with considering using examples from other cultures you can probably make similar (but incorrect) statements.
[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]
[QUOTE="percech"] So what you're saying is, Japanese people will do anything their government asks them without any objections simply because of their standards of manners? ActicEdge
What he meant is they are more civilized and less barbaric then Americans.
Americans is such a wide term unfortunately. Its one of the countries in the world where the gap between the wealthiest and the poorest is growing the fastest. Unfortunately, America gets a bad rep for a lot of things (the government is to blame for that)
Also factor in that America is a MUCH more diverse place than any other country, something that our foriegn neighbors don't understand. We area pretty large country and have ALOT of different cultures and ethnic groups living here and each one has influenced the this country and it's values to some degree. You also have to realise that different parts of America are vastly different than others, not just in terms of weather/environemetns, but in terms of values and even lagnuage to some degree.
Some parts are more conservative and others are more liberal, some act more "nobel" and others more "plain, like the American South for instance I noticed that the women tend to dress up more and wear more makeup and people say yes sir or yes mam to everything, where in the north women seem to dress more plain and people arn't as formal. This isn't entirely true and I'm not saying that people in northern states are ugly or rude or anything like that, it's just different values/cutlures.
To an outsider, it's really difficult to understand because America is so different and has way more diversity. This is why they don't really understnad our politics, they have good ideas sometimes and some of them mean well, but they don't really understand it. It's a totally different ball game.
[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"][QUOTE="percech"] If being civilized means being xenophobic then you're right. percech
Define Xenophobic xx;? I dont know whats wrong withh SWs and those big words today not everyone here is a native English speaker.
suffering from xenophobia; having abnormal fear or hatred of the strange or foreign.Xenophobia? I don't understand how that relates to my post. I'm an American and I'm not afraid of anyone. I was just saying that in a time of Crisis the Japanese did behave more civil than how we would have if the same thing happened here.
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[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]
What he meant is they are more civilized and less barbaric then Americans.
ShadowMoses900
Americans is such a wide term unfortunately. Its one of the countries in the world where the gap between the wealthiest and the poorest is growing the fastest. Unfortunately, America gets a bad rep for a lot of things (the government is to blame for that)
Also factor in that America is a MUCH more diverse place than any other country, something that our foriegn neighbors don't understand. We area pretty large country and have ALOT of different cultures and ethnic groups living here and each one has influenced the this country and it's values to some degree. You also have to realise that different parts of America are vastly different than others, not just in terms of weather/environemetns, but in terms of values and even lagnuage to some degree.
Some parts are more conservative and others are more liberal, some act more "nobel" and others more "plain, like the American South for instance I noticed that the women tend to dress up more and wear more makeup and people say yes sir or yes mam to everything, where in the north women seem to dress more plain and people arn't as formal. This isn't entirely true and I'm not saying that people in northern states are ugly or rude or anything like that, it's just different values/cutlures.
To an outsider, it's really difficult to understand because America is so different and has way more diversity. This is why they don't really understnad our politics, they have good ideas sometimes and some of them mean well, but they don't really understand it. It's a totally different ball game.
Indeed, I'm from Canada so even I am not fully aware of America as a whole to some extent (though I feel I have a more balanced opinion of it :P )
Even here in Canada there are a lot of differences between west coast, east coast and central cultures. NA is a pretty diverse continent though and yeah the US get a bad rep for a lot of things. Its not just all "ignorant americans" as many would have you believe. Its hardly fair to compare the values of America t the values of say Japan considering America is a far more diverse culture than Japan is.
suffering from xenophobia; having abnormal fear or hatred of the strange or foreign.[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]
Define Xenophobic xx;? I dont know whats wrong withh SWs and those big words today not everyone here is a native English speaker.
ActicEdge
How do you justify saying this? I can understand if you mean it in terms of gaming but I'm unsure about what else you can come up with considering using examples from other cultures you can probably make similar (but incorrect) statements.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox4E7b99KWQ
This isn't surprising, to me anyway.
Last I heard Germany is what's keeping Europe's Economy Stable, any of you European Brothers confrim this?
[QUOTE="ActicEdge"][QUOTE="percech"] suffering from xenophobia; having abnormal fear or hatred of the strange or foreign.percech
How do you justify saying this? I can understand if you mean it in terms of gaming but I'm unsure about what else you can come up with considering using examples from other cultures you can probably make similar (but incorrect) statements.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox4E7b99KWQIts unfortunate buuuuuuuuuut have you been to Japan and have you been to other countries in the world as well? You'll find similar things in other places of the world. Also, I suppose I would have to add that without Japanese representation in that video its extremely bias. That said I'm not very surprised by those signs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox4E7b99KWQ[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]
How do you justify saying this? I can understand if you mean it in terms of gaming but I'm unsure about what else you can come up with considering using examples from other cultures you can probably make similar (but incorrect) statements.
ActicEdge
Its unfortunate buuuuuuuuuut have you been to Japan and have you been to other countries in the world as well? You'll find similar things in other places of the world.
There's a reason why Japan is synonymous with the word.I just gave you a reason why software sales are doing better in Germany right now and you completely ignore it. You're blind, bro. You like a country that hates you. Congrats.percechThat's not what the thread's about. Thread title states that "Germany surpassed Japan in gaming sales". He cites one week of sales using a very inaccurate source. I give him an accurate source source as to why that is, and also showing how Japan is still a bigger market than Germany.
TC spews nationalist and racist crap. You are being TC-lite by calling everyone weeaboo and going on about how the Japanese are horrible and how its a horrible country. Nothing from the other camp but insults since the OP.
Germany's has been the 3rd largest economy in the world for decades, until just recently where China has surpassed it. So they do hold most of the control.This isn't surprising, to me anyway.
Last I heard Germany is what's keeping Europe's Economy Stable, any of you European Brothers confrim this?
LegatoSkyheart
[QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="percech"] If you knew anything about anything then you'd know that Germany is the 2nd biggest pc market in the world. A big pc game was recently released(Star Wars), so it's not surprising that the software sales are higher in Germany than Japan in the recent week. Like I said though, you're playing favorites and that clouds your judgement and knowledge greatly.percechAnd Japan is the second biggest console market, and the second biggest handheld market (and not far from being #1). I believe YOU'RE the one who's blinded. All you've been doing is calling people weeaboos anyway. No links and no proper arguments. I just gave you a reason why software sales are doing better in Germany right now and you completely ignore it. You're blind, bro. You like a country that hates you. Congrats.
but what you are saying is like saying Japan did overtake the US is the biggest market in the world when MH, DQ or Pokemon sold almost 4 mil in 1 week you cant compare 1 market during its peak period to another during its most stagnant period.
[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]Germany's has been the 3rd largest economy in the world for decades, until just recently where China has surpassed it. So they do hold most of the control.This isn't surprising, to me anyway.
Last I heard Germany is what's keeping Europe's Economy Stable, any of you European Brothers confrim this?
percech
ah So it is true.
I don't usually keep up with these kinds of things so when I heard it from my friend I just assumed it was New.
[QUOTE="ActicEdge"][QUOTE="percech"] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox4E7b99KWQpercech
Its unfortunate buuuuuuuuuut have you been to Japan and have you been to other countries in the world as well? You'll find similar things in other places of the world.
There's a reason why Japan is synonymous with the word.Says whom?
This isn't to say I disagree with you that you'll find more discrimination of the type in your video in Japan vs somewhere like Canada, the USA or the UK but that's more due to those being much more multi cultural nations. If you travel through asia a,d africa you won't find those types of sign unusual. That's just reality.
There's a reason why Japan is synonymous with the word.[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]
Its unfortunate buuuuuuuuuut have you been to Japan and have you been to other countries in the world as well? You'll find similar things in other places of the world.
ActicEdge
Says whom?
This isn't to say I disagree with you that you'll find more discrimination of the type in your video in Japan vs somewhere like Canada, the USA or the UK but that's more due to those being much more multi cultural nations. If you travel through asia a,d africa you won't find those types of sign unusual. That's just reality.
Says the internet. You google the word and you'll find Japan next to it. What you said isn't really an excuse. If the US was this way, you and everyone else in the world would crucify Americans for it. When Japan does it then everyone looks the other way because they're thought to be humble people.[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]Germany's has been the 3rd largest economy in the world for decades, until just recently where China has surpassed it. So they do hold most of the control. Japan has a bigger economy than Germany. China surpassed Germany a long time ago, and surpassed Japan in 2010. http://www.aolnews.com/2011/02/14/china-surpasses-japan-as-worlds-no-2-economy/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)This isn't surprising, to me anyway.
Last I heard Germany is what's keeping Europe's Economy Stable, any of you European Brothers confrim this?
percech
[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]Germany's has been the 3rd largest economy in the world for decades, until just recently where China has surpassed it. So they do hold most of the control. Japan has a bigger economy than Germany. China surpassed Germany a long time ago, and surpassed Japan in 2010. http://www.aolnews.com/2011/02/14/china-surpasses-japan-as-worlds-no-2-economy/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal) It did not surpass it a long time ago. I also never said Germany having a bigger economy than Japan. Like I said, they were 3rd for a long time. READING COMPREHENSION, bro...use it.This isn't surprising, to me anyway.
Last I heard Germany is what's keeping Europe's Economy Stable, any of you European Brothers confrim this?
Eponique
[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]
[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]
Americans is such a wide term unfortunately. Its one of the countries in the world where the gap between the wealthiest and the poorest is growing the fastest. Unfortunately, America gets a bad rep for a lot of things (the government is to blame for that)
ActicEdge
Also factor in that America is a MUCH more diverse place than any other country, something that our foriegn neighbors don't understand. We area pretty large country and have ALOT of different cultures and ethnic groups living here and each one has influenced the this country and it's values to some degree. You also have to realise that different parts of America are vastly different than others, not just in terms of weather/environemetns, but in terms of values and even lagnuage to some degree.
Some parts are more conservative and others are more liberal, some act more "nobel" and others more "plain, like the American South for instance I noticed that the women tend to dress up more and wear more makeup and people say yes sir or yes mam to everything, where in the north women seem to dress more plain and people arn't as formal. This isn't entirely true and I'm not saying that people in northern states are ugly or rude or anything like that, it's just different values/cutlures.
To an outsider, it's really difficult to understand because America is so different and has way more diversity. This is why they don't really understnad our politics, they have good ideas sometimes and some of them mean well, but they don't really understand it. It's a totally different ball game.
Indeed, I'm from Canada so even I am not fully aware of America as a whole to some extent (though I feel I have a more balanced opinion of it :P )
Even here in Canada there are a lot of differences between west coast, east coast and central cultures. NA is a pretty diverse continent though and yeah the US get a bad rep for a lot of things. Its not just all "ignorant americans" as many would have you believe. Its hardly fair to compare the values of America t the values of say Japan considering America is a far more diverse culture than Japan is.
Ya like how everyone in Canada loves Obama and they think he is amazing, but they don't relly understand it and they don't seem to have an accurate picture of him becasue they don't live here. America is just a very different place, there are some similarities, but once you live here and spend some time you kinda see things differently. I noticed that foriengners love to watch things about American news and talk about our politics more than their own, where as here in the US we don't really care or pay attention to others politics.
I am aware that Canada has 3 major parties (we only have two, and they both suck) and I know your prime minister is Steven Harper, but most Americans probably wouldn't know that. But it would be wrong of me to say "ya Steven Harper rocks" because I don't live there so I don't really understand Canada's issues.I think the reason why forigners pay attention to us so much is because we have the biggest influnece on world events.
Also I do know Canada has diversity, but it's not like it is here in the US. We literally have a ton of every ethnic group and culture here. I also hear theat French Canadians are more reserved than English speaking Canadians. Our French immigrants mostly settled in the deep south and became the Creole and the Cajun. Just different environement here.
[QUOTE="ActicEdge"][QUOTE="percech"] There's a reason why Japan is synonymous with the word. percech
Says whom?
This isn't to say I disagree with you that you'll find more discrimination of the type in your video in Japan vs somewhere like Canada, the USA or the UK but that's more due to those being much more multi cultural nations. If you travel through asia a,d africa you won't find those types of sign unusual. That's just reality.
Says the internet. You google the word and you'll find Japan next to it. What you said isn't really an excuse. If the US was this way, you and everyone else in the world would crucify Americans for it. When Japan does it then everyone looks the other way because they're thought to be humble people.The US was like this, worse in fact :|
I'm not saying its right (well duh its clearly wrong and I have no intention of ever visiting Japan anyway), I'm just saying, western culture was pretty much built of the back of immigration and foreigners are a much more prevalent part of the culture obviously. I'm not saying Japan gets away with it because they are humble, I'm saying that calling that country the definition of Xenophobic when if you travel across many parts of Asia and Africa you will see and experience similar treatment if you are not of that ethnicity is pretty extreme. Also, the internet is a great place to find excellent information but its also a place brimming with ignorance. You're in SW are you not?
Says the internet. You google the word and you'll find Japan next to it. What you said isn't really an excuse. If the US was this way, you and everyone else in the world would crucify Americans for it. When Japan does it then everyone looks the other way because they're thought to be humble people.[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]
Says whom?
This isn't to say I disagree with you that you'll find more discrimination of the type in your video in Japan vs somewhere like Canada, the USA or the UK but that's more due to those being much more multi cultural nations. If you travel through asia a,d africa you won't find those types of sign unusual. That's just reality.
ActicEdge
The US was like this, worse in fact :|
I'm not saying its right (well duh its clearly wrong and I have no intention of ever visiting Japan anyway), I'm just saying, western culture was pretty much built of the back of immigration and foreigners are a much more prevalent part of the culture obviously. I'm not saying Japan gets away with it because they are humble, I'm saying that calling that country the definition of Xenophobic when if you travel across many parts of Asia and Africa you will see and experience similar treatment if you are not of that ethnicity is pretty extreme. Also, the internet is a great place to find excellent information but its also a place brimming with ignorance. You're in SW are you not?
Japan used to be MUCH MUCH worse than the US with slavery. Japan did the same thing except a lot worse with the Chinese immigrants back then. Don't forget, these people bombed the hell out of us for no reason, they also killed anything that wasn't Japanese. Trust me, they were much worse.I'm not "defending" Japan, I'm stating the facts. You have to be Japanese to defend Japan now? I'm not even German, so why should I "defend" Germany?[QUOTE="HFkami"] so youre asian??? What chinese, korean or thai??? And you defend japan tough your ancestors are not japanese???My main point was youre japanophille doesnt matter where you from.. so now lets come to the point of used games its pointless fact, it doesnt bring money to the devolopers so i just ignore your fact cuz i cant proof you wrong but you cant proof me wrong as well. There are no specific data on every used game in every country like germany in comparison to japan, just like with downloading.Eponique
I don't care about either. If you're going to have country warz do it elsewhere, this is System Wars, and you have to argue with facts, not with "you're not Japanese, so you're not allowed to say anything pro-Japanese".
Germany's gaming industry value at €1.937 ($2.46 billion) billion in 2010
Japan's gaming industry value at $5.9 billion in 2010
Now take your nationalist crap elsewhere.
**The drop marks the third year in a row of Japanese video game retail decline. Falling hardware revenues drove the 2010 decline** so the japanese article is hardware too?? But the german isnt?? But if it includes hardware in both articles its obviously that germany that has a large PC Market is missing PC hardware and mobile phones in its data.[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]suffering from xenophobia; having abnormal fear or hatred of the strange or foreign.[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]
Define Xenophobic xx;? I dont know whats wrong withh SWs and those big words today not everyone here is a native English speaker.
percech
How do you justify saying this? I can understand if you mean it in terms of gaming but I'm unsure about what else you can come up with considering using examples from other cultures you can probably make similar (but incorrect) statements.
youtubeYa that's wrong, but I don't think it happens in the majority of Japan. I know some people who lived there for awhile and they didn't experience discrimination.I here there is a word they use for outsiders though, don't remember what it is. Also there is still alot of tension between Japanese people and Koreans and Chinese, it mostly stems from WW2 and how brutal the Japanese army was to these people. So they never fully forgave each other, what's funny though is that Koreans and Japanese and Chinese are all the same ethnicity, but different cultures.
Kinda like how Jews and Arabs are the same ethnicity/race, but yet they fight each other. It's ironic and stupid kinda because they are genetic cousins of each other.
The German one includes console hardware too. If you want to include PC hardware and mobile phones too, I don't mind :lol: Let me remind you that virtually all households in both countries have a PC and own a mobile phone, and Japan's population is 130 million while Germany's is 80 million
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]
Also factor in that America is a MUCH more diverse place than any other country, something that our foriegn neighbors don't understand. We area pretty large country and have ALOT of different cultures and ethnic groups living here and each one has influenced the this country and it's values to some degree. You also have to realise that different parts of America are vastly different than others, not just in terms of weather/environemetns, but in terms of values and even lagnuage to some degree.
Some parts are more conservative and others are more liberal, some act more "nobel" and others more "plain, like the American South for instance I noticed that the women tend to dress up more and wear more makeup and people say yes sir or yes mam to everything, where in the north women seem to dress more plain and people arn't as formal. This isn't entirely true and I'm not saying that people in northern states are ugly or rude or anything like that, it's just different values/cutlures.
To an outsider, it's really difficult to understand because America is so different and has way more diversity. This is why they don't really understnad our politics, they have good ideas sometimes and some of them mean well, but they don't really understand it. It's a totally different ball game.
ShadowMoses900
Indeed, I'm from Canada so even I am not fully aware of America as a whole to some extent (though I feel I have a more balanced opinion of it :P )
Even here in Canada there are a lot of differences between west coast, east coast and central cultures. NA is a pretty diverse continent though and yeah the US get a bad rep for a lot of things. Its not just all "ignorant americans" as many would have you believe. Its hardly fair to compare the values of America t the values of say Japan considering America is a far more diverse culture than Japan is.
Ya like how everyone in Canada loves Obama and they think he is amazing, but they don't relly understand it and they don't seem to have an accurate picture of him becasue they don't live here. America is just a very different place, there are some similarities, but once you live here and spend some time you kinda see things differently. I noticed that foriengners love to watch things about American news and talk about our politics more than their own, where as here in the US we don't really care or pay attention to others politics.
I am aware that Canada has 3 major parties (we only have two, and they both suck) and I know your prime minister is Steven Harper, but most Americans probably wouldn't know that. But it would be wrong of me to say "ya Steven Harper rocks" because I don't live there so I don't really understand Canada's issues.I think the reason why forigners pay attention to us so much is because we have the biggest influnece on world events.
Also I do know Canada has diversity, but it's not like it is here in the US. We literally have a ton of every ethnic group and culture here. I also hear theat French Canadians are more reserved than English speaking Canadians. Our French immigrants mostly settled in the deep south and became the Creole and the Cajun. Just different environement here.
This specifically I feel is a direct correlation to the fact that A) the US dollar is pretty much the standard everything is measured up to in this world and B) for Canada at least, our ecomony is directly tied to the US since more than 50% of our exports (where Canada makes most of its money) go to the US. A large portion of the world's economy and well being is dependent on American politics and policy so this isn't really surprising. Americans don't really give a shiit about what happens in say Mexico for example (which is fine, people of a nation has a responsibility to keep their government hhonest first and foremost) but on the flip side, American policy can absolutely destroy the economy of other places in the world. Food for thought. As far as Obama is concerned I'll make it really easy for people, Bush essentially screwed **** up so bad in the eyes of people anyone could be a better replacement. And to top it off, yay he is black. (I know it sounds bad to say that but w/e I'm black too but I'm also not stupid)
edit: Well I should have paid more attention to the second paragraph which basically addresses my first :P
Anyway in terms of diversity its all about where you live in the country. America as a whole is not much more diverse than Canada is, there are concentrated pockets in both countries. For example, Toronto or Montreal in Canada are places you will find an extremely wide mix of different ethnicity. Per capita Canada has a higher immigration rate than America. Its the highest in the world in fact. I wouldn't be able to tell you the difference between french canadian and english canadian well. Not much of a history major nor do my roots lie in Canada or Europe :P
[QUOTE="ActicEdge"][QUOTE="percech"] Says the internet. You google the word and you'll find Japan next to it. What you said isn't really an excuse. If the US was this way, you and everyone else in the world would crucify Americans for it. When Japan does it then everyone looks the other way because they're thought to be humble people.percech
The US was like this, worse in fact :|
I'm not saying its right (well duh its clearly wrong and I have no intention of ever visiting Japan anyway), I'm just saying, western culture was pretty much built of the back of immigration and foreigners are a much more prevalent part of the culture obviously. I'm not saying Japan gets away with it because they are humble, I'm saying that calling that country the definition of Xenophobic when if you travel across many parts of Asia and Africa you will see and experience similar treatment if you are not of that ethnicity is pretty extreme. Also, the internet is a great place to find excellent information but its also a place brimming with ignorance. You're in SW are you not?
Japan used to be MUCH MUCH worse than the US with slavery. Japan did the same thing except a lot worse with the Chinese immigrants back then. Don't forget, these people bombed the hell out of us for no reason, they also killed anything that wasn't Japanese. Trust me, they were much worse.I don't know much about eastern history (hell I don't know much about "western" history) though I do know Japan had quite the terror streak and claimed much dominance in the east through what I understand to be brutal domination tactics. Comparing who treated slaves worse though is a pretty damn redundant point frankly though :|
As far as bombing (to which I wouldn't have much knowledge), if you are refering to pearl habour, my understanding is that that wasn't unprovoked. Granted I couldn't tell you what did provoke. As retaliation, America did drop 2 nukes though despite again from what I have read, Japan basically admitting defeat and claiming to concede defeat if the emperor was not harmed. (my history is again pretty damn partition so I could be incorrect on some of these points)
Japan used to be MUCH MUCH worse than the US with slavery. Japan did the same thing except a lot worse with the Chinese immigrants back then. Don't forget, these people bombed the hell out of us for no reason, they also killed anything that wasn't Japanese. Trust me, they were much worse.[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]
The US was like this, worse in fact :|
I'm not saying its right (well duh its clearly wrong and I have no intention of ever visiting Japan anyway), I'm just saying, western culture was pretty much built of the back of immigration and foreigners are a much more prevalent part of the culture obviously. I'm not saying Japan gets away with it because they are humble, I'm saying that calling that country the definition of Xenophobic when if you travel across many parts of Asia and Africa you will see and experience similar treatment if you are not of that ethnicity is pretty extreme. Also, the internet is a great place to find excellent information but its also a place brimming with ignorance. You're in SW are you not?
ActicEdge
I don't know much about eastern history (hell I don't know much about "western" history) though I do know Japan had quite the terror streak and claimed much dominance in the east through what I understand to be brutal domination tactics. Comparing who treated slaves worse though is a pretty damn redundant point frankly though :|
As far as bombing (to which I wouldn't have much knowledge), if you are refering to pearl habour, my understanding is that that wasn't unprovoked. Granted I couldn't tell you what did provoke. As retaliation, America did drop 2 nukes though despite again from what I have read, Japan basically admitting defeat and claiming to concede defeat if the emperor was not harmed. (my history is again pretty damn partition so I could be incorrect on some of these points)
Japan didn't submit until the US dropped the nukes. You need to go back to world history, you're getting many things wrong. Also with your argument about who was worse being redundant, didn't you do the exact same thing by mentioning slavery and the US?[QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="percech"] I never said they're not. From the beginning I said they were smaller. YOu have a reading problem, bro? DAYUM YOU STOOPID.percechYou tried to refute my argument by saying that Germany is a bigger market than Japan if you take population in account (which backfired horribly). I said that that would be irrelevant since we're discussing absolute size. Why would you bring up population if you were talking about overall size? :roll: I was exaggerating obviously. Besides, if we take hardware into account with the PC market, it would be closer considering Germany is the largest PC market next to the US. The PC market is included in the link I provided. In fact, it includes mobile and social gaming as well, while the Japanese link is purely handhelds and consoles.
The TC told me to include PC hardware as well, and I told him that it would pad the Japanese market more than it would the German market.
I was exaggerating obviously. Besides, if we take hardware into account with the PC market, it would be closer considering Germany is the largest PC market next to the US. The PC market is included in the link I provided. In fact, it includes mobile and social gaming as well, while the Japanese link is purely handhelds and consoles.[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="Eponique"] You tried to refute my argument by saying that Germany is a bigger market than Japan if you take population in account (which backfired horribly). I said that that would be irrelevant since we're discussing absolute size. Why would you bring up population if you were talking about overall size? :roll:Eponique
The TC told me to include PC hardware as well, and I told him that it would pad the Japanese market more than it would the German market.
I can't even view the Germany link.[QUOTE="ActicEdge"][QUOTE="percech"] Japan used to be MUCH MUCH worse than the US with slavery. Japan did the same thing except a lot worse with the Chinese immigrants back then. Don't forget, these people bombed the hell out of us for no reason, they also killed anything that wasn't Japanese. Trust me, they were much worse. percech
I don't know much about eastern history (hell I don't know much about "western" history) though I do know Japan had quite the terror streak and claimed much dominance in the east through what I understand to be brutal domination tactics. Comparing who treated slaves worse though is a pretty damn redundant point frankly though :|
As far as bombing (to which I wouldn't have much knowledge), if you are refering to pearl habour, my understanding is that that wasn't unprovoked. Granted I couldn't tell you what did provoke. As retaliation, America did drop 2 nukes though despite again from what I have read, Japan basically admitting defeat and claiming to concede defeat if the emperor was not harmed. (my history is again pretty damn partition so I could be incorrect on some of these points)
Japan didn't submit until the US dropped the nukes. You need to go back to world history, you're getting many things wrong. Also with your argument about who was worse being redundant, didn't you do the exact same thing by mentioning slavery and the US?I specifically remember reading (recently, a couple months ago in fact, library books will do wonders when you live with Political science students) that while Japan did not officially submit until after the nukes, the US managed to intercept Japanese communications where they were already accepting that they should surrender. I could get you the quote but it would take a couple days (need to ask my friend as it was him who had me read it so I would have to get him to track it down for me. I doubt you care that much though, I know I don't), this was from a published book not the internet for reference. I am not going to claim any great knowledge in world history though so I'll drop the topic here.
As for the redundant comment, I brought up the US and slavery simply to make the point that you said people would be all over the US if they did something like that when in their history they did in fact do worse than that. They obviously corrected it which was also part of my point in that original point as well :| So no I didn't do the same thing lol as it was never in reference to anyone being an evil entity more than to point out that your "if" comment "was"actually a reality at one point in time. It was never finger pointing, I don't really care who was "worse" when we all clearly know it was wrong.
Does this have any relevance to American gamers?
[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]All Americans are Germans so yes.Does this have any relevance to American gamers?
Eponique
gotcha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox4E7b99KWQ[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]
How do you justify saying this? I can understand if you mean it in terms of gaming but I'm unsure about what else you can come up with considering using examples from other cultures you can probably make similar (but incorrect) statements.
ActicEdge
Its unfortunate buuuuuuuuuut have you been to Japan and have you been to other countries in the world as well? You'll find similar things in other places of the world. Also, I suppose I would have to add that without Japanese representation in that video its extremely bias. That said I'm not very surprised by those signs.
I'd say a country not really taking any refugees, and is very hesitant to take any immigrant, despite the fact the country's population is rapidly declining is probably a sign of xenophobia, if that's not the right word, maybe people are not interested in any cultural diversity.
I generally think Japan is a relatively "selfish", the fact Japanese people's charitability ranks 119 in the world kind of shows that, they're known to be highly obsessed with their own culture, as well as European luxury goods... for some strange reason. Sometimes I also think Japan is a developed country with a developing nation mentality, nothing wrong with that or the selfishness though, you do what you want to do with your wealth, Japan is a wealthy country and people live very well, to them, that's probably all that matters.
Japan didn't submit until the US dropped the nukes. You need to go back to world history, you're getting many things wrong. Also with your argument about who was worse being redundant, didn't you do the exact same thing by mentioning slavery and the US?[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]
I don't know much about eastern history (hell I don't know much about "western" history) though I do know Japan had quite the terror streak and claimed much dominance in the east through what I understand to be brutal domination tactics. Comparing who treated slaves worse though is a pretty damn redundant point frankly though :|
As far as bombing (to which I wouldn't have much knowledge), if you are refering to pearl habour, my understanding is that that wasn't unprovoked. Granted I couldn't tell you what did provoke. As retaliation, America did drop 2 nukes though despite again from what I have read, Japan basically admitting defeat and claiming to concede defeat if the emperor was not harmed. (my history is again pretty damn partition so I could be incorrect on some of these points)
ActicEdge
I specifically remember reading (recently, a couple months ago in fact, library books will do wonders when you live with Political science students) that while Japan did not officially submit until after the nukes, the US managed to intercept Japanese communications where they were already accepting that they should surrender. I could get you the quote but it would take a couple days (need to ask my friend as it was him who had me read it so I would have to get him to track it down for me. I doubt you care that much though, I know I don't), this was from a published book not the internet for reference. I am not going to claim any great knowledge in world history though so I'll drop the topic here.
As for the redundant comment, I brought up the US and slavery simply to make the point that you said people would be all over the US if they did something like that when in their history they did in fact do worse than that. They obviously corrected it which was also part of my point in that original point as well :| So no I didn't do the same thing lol as it was never in reference to anyone being an evil entity more than to point out that your "if" comment "was"actually a reality at one point in time. It was never finger pointing, I don't really care who was "worse" when we all clearly know it was wrong.
Everyone knows that the nukes were not to end the war but to show the world and the CCCP the power which the US got espacially after how the CCCP occupied Berlin that was the beginning of the cold war.
i dont think so there is nothing metioned about hardware, also germany has 100 million mobile phones while japan has only 120 million in its population http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_mobile_phones_in_use and the japanese might have more pcs but what i meant is that german pc gamer might upgrade their machines for gaming. They are spending more on hardware than japanese.The German one includes console hardware too. If you want to include PC hardware and mobile phones too, I don't mind :lol: Let me remind you that virtually all households in both countries have a PC and own a mobile phone, and Japan's population is 130 million while Germany's is 80 million
Eponique
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