Going by new footage,will RAGE be console gfx king when its all said and done?

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#1 Bus-A-Bus
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I think it could be...Considering it runs at(confirmed) 720p and 60fps on this consoles while still having awesome visuals,especially animations and artstyle I'm thinking not alot of 30fps can give it run for its money.So this being such a good looking game,running twice faster and being twice more responsive than other contetenders its clearly in league of its own.What does SW think?

Latest footage-"The Well"(8 mins)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYAJuw7ICfs

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#2 The_Capitalist
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Not impressed by the graphics so far. They are good, but not the absolute best I have seen. There is too much blood splatter for my taste.

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#3 amaneuvering
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In some ways yes but in other ways no actually.

Great textures and detail, really nice character animation and solid framerate, but static sky boxes, not a lot of world destruction and there's not really any impressive shadows other than those on the characters. Also, little details like seeing the players hand when they interact with things like switches and levers etc are missing.

Just looking at the game as an overall image it looks visually very impressive but some of the little flourishes I've come to expect just aren't there for me personally.

It's still beautiful but I think with a little more polish in a couple of other areas it could have been truly mind blowing.

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#4 T-razor1
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It truly will be a toss up between a lot of games for the title this fall. Rage definitely has a chance and just looks stunning.

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#5 Cali3350
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Considering it runs at 60fps and any other console game worth anything struggles with 30, yes id say so.

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#6 xxmatt125xx
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It looks nice but it doesn't really blow me away, it might just be the art style that is throwing me off.
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#7 KC_Hokie
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I think it will. John Carmack keeps stating how the Xbox 360 is the best console he's ever seen. Wild prediction: the Xbox 360 version will be the best looking console game period.
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#8 SRTtoZ
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Youre talking console graphix king but you posted PC footage.
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#9 Zensword
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Looks great butIMO, Uncharted 3or Battlefield 3 will be consolegfx king.

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#10 Cali3350
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Looks great butIMO, Uncharted 3or Battlefield 3 will be consolegfx king.

Zensword

See i disagree, as they are both 30fps. Rage looks that good at 60. Marvelous.

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#11 FatSlasH
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That's PC footage...

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#12 Zensword
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[QUOTE="Zensword"]

Looks great but IMO, Uncharted 3or Battlefield 3 will be consoleg fx king.

Cali3350

See i disagree, as they are both 30fps. Rage looks that good at 60. Marvelous.

Maybe Rage is the consoleframerate king but gfx king ? No.

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#13 eNT1TY
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Not imo, it does look great but not particularly better looking than existing console games for either of the hd systems. Even PC footage showed wonky low detail spots juxtaposed with very detailed spots within the same scene resulting in visual inconsistencies strewn about throughout. Also, framerate (according to the well video) seems to not be locked at 60fps since there were many apparent dips throughout the video. In all honesty metro 2033 on 360 produced more detailed interiors. What this game does really well is the variety of textures, i don't think i noticed any obvious tiled or repeated textures, every room had unique cracks/wear/tear on floors/walls/ceilings and that is pretty damn cool.
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#14 deactivated-66e3137ab3ad5
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Not by a long shot. The graphics are okay, but not graphics king worthy.
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#15 Mozelleple112
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No. Plain and simple.
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#16 BlbecekBobecek
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Isnt that footage from a PC version? Id say so judging by the sharpness of textures.

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#17 Heil68
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Nope, that's going to U3.
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#18 SaltyMeatballs
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Graphics alone? No. Graphics and performance, without a doubt the best I have seen on consoles, 60fps, large/open world.
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#19 Mawy_Golomb
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I don't understand why this game gets such a positive response from a lot of people, especially if its gameplay is hardly anything revolutionary? If you're going mainly by the AI and graphics alone, then that's not enough, at least for me, to get excited. One can easily compare it to Fallout 3/Vegas or Borderlands. Is it receiving so much attention because its an id Software game?

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#20 AnxietyAttack
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Nope, that's going to U3.Heil68
Yup, sure is..

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#21 lowe0
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In my eyes, id can do no wrong. September's going to be awesome.

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#22 AnxietyAttack
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It will be down to GeoW3 and Rage I would say.

Graphics King

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#23 DJ_Headshot
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No but it will be the best looking open world game that also happens to runs at 60fps on consoles.
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#24 Chutebox
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Yay for a freaking minute advertisement........

And to answer the question, no, judging by that video. I don't know if it's because it's on youtube, but Witcher 2 looks better.

Oh wait, consoles.....Still say no.

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#25 RawDeal_basic
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If it runs at a solid 60 fps in 720p (which I doubt), of course it will.

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#26 Pug-Nasty
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There are a lot of sub par areas in that video, details that just don't look good.

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#28 Inconsistancy
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I think it will. John Carmack keeps stating how the Xbox 360 is the best console he's ever seen. Wild prediction: the Xbox 360 version will be the best looking console game period.KC_Hokie
Carmack said the PS3 version would look slightly better..

I don't understand why this game gets such a positive response from a lot of people, especially if its gameplay is hardly anything revolutionary? If you're going mainly by the AI and graphics alone, then that's not enough, at least for me, to get excited. One can easily compare it to Fallout 3/Vegas or Borderlands. Is it receiving so much attention because its an id Software game?

Mawy_Golomb

Why is it comparable to a few garbage RPG's? Same setting (vaguely) and it has guns?! Must be the same game.

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#29 Ondoval
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If it runs at a solid 60 fps in 720p (which I doubt), of course it will.

RawDeal_basic

WipeOut HD Fury runs at 1080p x 60 fps most of the time, and even being very good looking I think that isn't the console game with better graphics all around.

Sure, Rage looks way better than most of the other games at 60 fps in consoles (rage is id Tech 5, COD is id Tech 3 enhanced), but there's games with better detail and better scale. We must wait and see.

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#30 gpuking
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Just because it's 60fps doesn't mean it would look the best, maybe one of the most technically impressive however. Now this will be Console graphics king in terms of raw visual impact.
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#31 spookykid143
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[QUOTE="Heil68"]Nope, that's going to U3.AnxietyAttack

Yup, sure is..

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That's co-op, Single player is when UC3 will shine

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#32 Inconsistancy
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Just because it's 60fps doesn't mean it would look the best, maybe one of the most technically impressive however. Now this will be Console graphics king in terms of raw visual impact.  gpuking
The amount of time it takes to render a frame at 60 fps is .016666 seconds (rage), at 30fps (uncharted/most other games) it's .033333 seconds. The more time you spend rendering each frame the better it can look because power is finite, and to go from 30 fps to 60 requires 3x the power that would be otherwise used for visual quality, not just fps. Rage being at 60 has had a lot cut to achieve that, it shouldn't be garphics king.

However, it is the graphics king among 60fps 720p games :D
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#33 gpuking
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However, it is the graphics king among 60fps 720p games :DInconsistancy
Could very well be and it would eat MW3 alive for sure.
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#34 fend_oblivion
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[QUOTE="Heil68"]Nope, that's going to U3.AnxietyAttack

Yup, sure is..

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That is from a WIP build and not to mention, this pic is of multiplayer. Do you honestly think they'd make a sequel that looks worse than its predecessor?

Back on topic, RAGE looks awesome though in the vid, it seemed they are using a sort of pseudo cell shaded look to some objects (like that cross bow). I hope RAGE will have a great story and tons of replayability :)

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#35 silversix_
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Sure looks better than Gears 3 which is the best looking game on 360?
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#36 GotNugz
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not sure why this game is getting the hype. gameplay looks boring and the graphics while good are nothing to write home about. btw this was the pc version and it was still underwhelming Crysis 2 looks far better and imo i dont see it being surpassed this year or maybe for the rest of this gen on consoles. if you really want uber graphics wait until games come out using Unreal Engine 4, frostbite 2, Cryengine 3(proper). or another words wait until next generation the HD twins have basically been maxed out.

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#37 gpuking
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E3 is in how many hours from now? I say we come back to this thread after watching some new gameplay shall we:)?
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#38 Asim90
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Whoa the gameplay looks insanely good! The graphics are fantastic but I'm more impressed with how good the gameplay looks and what they have achieved with the game world, it looks really immersive. I have Fallout 3 and Borderlands but stopped playing them rather quickly due to the lack of polish, bugs, average visuals and average gameplay. This however looks fantastic, will definitely pick this one up.

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#39 SkaRy_RuLeZ
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[QUOTE="Zensword"]

Looks great butIMO, Uncharted 3or Battlefield 3 will be consolegfx king.

Cali3350

See i disagree, as they are both 30fps. Rage looks that good at 60. Marvelous.

performance != graphics.

No game running at 60 fps will ever be even close to graphics king.

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#40 fend_oblivion
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[QUOTE="Cali3350"]

[QUOTE="Zensword"]

Looks great butIMO, Uncharted 3or Battlefield 3 will be consolegfx king.

SkaRy_RuLeZ

See i disagree, as they are both 30fps. Rage looks that good at 60. Marvelous.

performance != graphics.

No game running at 60 fps will ever be even close to graphics king.

Here you go :)

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#41 MFDOOM1983
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[QUOTE="AnxietyAttack"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"]Nope, that's going to U3.spookykid143

Yup, sure is..

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That's co-op, Single player is when UC3 will shine

So uc3 will only look good a 1/3 of the time?

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#42 clone01
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I think it looks great. But its always tough to judge until I see the game running on my own TV.

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#43 PAL360
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Well, it won the best graphics last E3 so it wont be far from it. Still i think Crysis 2 looks better and believe that by the end of this year Uncharted 3 and Gears 3 will be the best looking console games.

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#45 Crystal-Rush
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Considering it runs at 60fps and any other console game worth anything struggles with 30, yes id say so.

Cali3350
Judging by the latest gameplay trailer, Rage is running at 30fps, so i don't know what the hell your thinking or any other person who thinks that. COD runs at 60fps and Rage doesn't look anywhere near as smooth
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#46 Inconsistancy
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[QUOTE="Cali3350"]

Considering it runs at 60fps and any other console game worth anything struggles with 30, yes id say so.

Crystal-Rush

Judging by the latest gameplay trailer, Rage is running at 30fps, so i don't know what the hell your thinking or any other person who thinks that. COD runs at 60fps and Rage doesn't look anywhere near as smooth

The video is captured at 35fps ('least that's what fraps was saying it was at), regardless of the framerate of the actual game. I don't see how you can tell if it's running sub 60fps ingame, when the capture is sub 60fps itself.

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#47 Mawy_Golomb
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So, what exactly is so original about Rage? I see nothing. Honestly. I don't want to troll around, but id Software hasn't said much about what makes this game stand out from its competitors. And if that can't be done, then, you're not going to convince a lot of folks to like your product, especially since it's mostly referring to the graphics or AI.

Awesome graphics /= great game.

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#48 lucky_star
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The game looks pretty good.

The biggest issue for me is that 99% of the enemies look the same. In all the gameplay videos it looks and sounds like you are fighting clones.

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#49 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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No way in hell. The textures really let the game down, and well the shaders suck too. Things don't look like they should.
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#50 catfishmoon23
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Graphics alone? No. Graphics and performance, without a doubt the best I have seen on consoles, 60fps, large/open world.SaltyMeatballs

This is how I feel.