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#1 jagt808
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I can't believe some of you actually said that. Seriously, Goldeneye was never overrated. Yea, if you go back and play it now you'll be like "this isn't that great", I've played it all before." You know it feels like that because you've "played it all before" because Goldeneye basically started FPS on the consoles. But when it first came out it was seriously epic. I remember having groups of friends come over or go over to their place and just play for hours and hours. Also, Halo didn't really add anything new, however it did everything really well. Sticky grenades are not new, in Goldeneye remote mines would stick to players. Having melee isn't new, yes goldeneye had knives, even throwing knives. However, I have to agree with some that Halo is great for consoles but as a PC game it's crappy. There are just so many better PC FPS out there, but for a console game it's great. I seriously think that Halo is overrated and I'm not saying it's bad but it's not this crazy epic game like I hear almost everyone saying.
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#2 Ross_the_B0SS
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Didn't Halo introduce regenerating health?

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#4 BioShockOwnz
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Halo is still a very good game. CE being the best Halo, imo. Goldeneye really feels bad now, though. It doesn't hold up at all.

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#5 johnnyblazed88
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im pretty sure anybody you ask on here will tell you halo is overrated

even me and i love all the halos

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#6 Deathlessness
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Halo is easily the best first-person shooter on consoles.

2 years.

1 million unique daily players. Amazing. :)

This day isn't even over, and 786,551 unique gamers have played Halo 3.

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#7 g805ge
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXTy8VTDNjs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6RfMcpn0Cc

I could easily say Goldeneye is crap compared to PC FPS which it is, Quake II was released the same year as Goldeneye and it was far superior. Halo had grenades and melee combat but it was seamlessly combined allowing you to throw a grenade and melee attack with a touch of a buttonwithout holstering your weapon.

Goldeneye was good for its time but it aged badly. Perfect Dark was far superior than Goldeneye.

Also, Alien vs Predator on the Jaguar was the first exclusive console FPS before Goldeneye. Halo is more overhyped but Goldeneye is far more overrated than Halo.

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#8 mitu123
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Halo is still a very good game. CE being the best Halo, imo. Goldeneye really feels bad now, though. It doesn't hold up at all.

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Yep, even Perfect Dark holds up better than Goldeneye, I played both the other day and Perfect Dark just seems better, even Halo hold up as well. Can't wait for Perfect Dark on XBLA in winter 2009, it'll have updated graphics and online play.
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#9 FloWeN-UK
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Didn't Halo introduce regenerating health?

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Which isnt a good thing in any sense.
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#10 xscott1018
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goldeneye isn't overrated. halo i would yes a bit.
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#11 RotaryRX7
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Who says Goldeneye is overrated? That's just wrong... Wrong!!
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#12 g805ge
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[QUOTE="Ross_the_B0SS"]

Didn't Halo introduce regenerating health?

FloWeN-UK

Which isnt a good thing in any sense.

I know, I loved back then when I had to backtrack miles away to find a one lousy health pack.

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#13 Deiuos
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Anything popular is overrated.

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#14 Deiuos
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[QUOTE="FloWeN-UK"][QUOTE="Ross_the_B0SS"]

Didn't Halo introduce regenerating health?

g805ge

Which isnt a good thing in any sense.

I know, I loved back then when I had to backtrack miles away to find a one lousy health pack.

Halo is actually bringing back healthpacks. ODST has them, and I bet Halo: Reach will have them as well. They add an extra element to combat that makes the player think a bit harder on their decisions to approaching an enemy.
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#15 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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Goldeneye was awesome...back then >.>
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[QUOTE="g805ge"]

[QUOTE="FloWeN-UK"] Which isnt a good thing in any sense.Deiuos

I know, I loved back then when I had to backtrack miles away to find a one lousy health pack.

Halo is actually bringing back healthpacks. ODST has them, and I bet Halo: Reach will have them as well. They add an extra element to combat that makes the player think a bit harder on their decisions to approaching an enemy.

I always find shooters that use heath packs better then others.
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#17 g805ge
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[QUOTE="g805ge"]

[QUOTE="FloWeN-UK"] Which isnt a good thing in any sense.Deiuos

I know, I loved back then when I had to backtrack miles away to find a one lousy health pack.

Halo is actually bringing back healthpacks. ODST has them, and I bet Halo: Reach will have them as well. They add an extra element to combat that makes the player think a bit harder on their decisions to approaching an enemy.

Well its different because you're a human in ODSTwhile Master Chief is a cyborg.

I guess a regenerating health mechanic is good or bad depends. I like the way Halo 1 used it by adding a regenerating shield with a health bar, while Halo 2 and 3 had a regenerating shield and health which wasn't bad but not as good as it was in Halo 1.

Resistance 1, Crysis,and Chronicles of Riddick Escape from Butcher Bay did a better job of using a hybrid regenerating/health bar mechanic.

Then again, Tribes was the first to use a regenerating health shield mechanic.

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#18 swazidoughman
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Goldeneye is extremely overrated, its all nostalgia.

Halo is also overrated, but at least it was decent.

Goldeneye was a generic FPS with an unacceptable frame-rate and terrible controls, the only thing that was really fun on it was multi-player.

It's nowhere near as good as other FPS's at the time such as Quake, or Half-Life.

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#19 mitu123
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Goldeneye was awesome...back then >.>SAGE_OF_FIRE
Agreed, it was the 1st FPS I played, and I was so amazed by it, I put some hours into the single and mulitplayer. I played it a while ago and it doesn't age well. At least Perfect Dark aged well and we're getting it this winter in HD with updated graphics and online multiplayer.

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regenerated health is for noobs , , thats all i got to say, theres no challenge, goldeneye did each and every single thing halo does besides online -which dukenukem for pc had that and , more

halo was good for the xbox in its own merits but it still falls short of the timesplitters , perfect dark , goldeneye doom and duke nukem and quake series, id say its where the world is not enough is , almost but not quite status

lets face it , it didnt even have ai in multiplayer so its ages behind timesplitters duke nukem perfect dark and the rest of the 007 games after goldeneye

lol

also ,,

goldeneye was more challenging because

you not only had to do missions to unlock everything you had to do them in a certain time to access cheats for multiplayer or single player ,

perfect dark evolved goldeneye , , 007 perfect dark 64 evolved goldeneye ,, after perfect dark there was timesplitters which was last gens goldeneye , ,

and was again more challenging and more fun then halo 2 or 3 , halo 1 was pretty good at least it didnt focus to much on multiplayer , but it had a good mp and sp ,,

halo 2 did nothing to evolve halo and halo 3 definatelly was overated , all they added was forge ,

theyt didnt make any effort to do anything that involves unlockables and or other game changing things like slo mo , or unlimited ammo or paintball dk mode-fat heads all these things pd ge timesplitters do

also forge wasnt actually new,

its a watered down version of timesplitters map maker ,

another thing timesplitters/ge team did right ,

halo 3 may be the best 360s got as far as fps but lets face it , timesplitters future perfect is still the biggest fps of all time with 200 selectable characters 50 plus weapons 16 maps , plus about 7 premade map maker maps , and you can make your own , on the xbox it gives you loads of space so heck , ,

and ps3 for the ps2 version , , gives you alot of space just gotta keep swaping mem cards though , same for gc gotta have loads of mem cards ,

preferable the 1080 block memcard is the best option for gc/wii

so ya , just keep thinking halo is the best ever because i have proof its not

sales prove that

overall halo sold through 8.0 million world wide goldeneye sold 8.4 million

perfect dark same as goldeneye about 8.3

ts -8.0 million -across all 3 versions of ts2

and ts3 sold just about the same , so ya

their prety much supierer in fanbase and sales, and the games them selves arent pushovers either

youll never see goldeneye again , , mods dont count sorry half life fanboys ,

and now you wont see timesplitters again , , 2 of the best fps series around ,

the clost your gonna get is this winters perfect dark re release im so getting that scrw halo odst reach and wars lol

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#21 johnny_rocker
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Goldeneye is overrated, and it wasn't even that influential either. You know why console FPS are so big now? It's becuase of Halo, not Goldeneye. Halo was the first console FPS that could really challenge the big boys on PC, and it popularized a lot of features in modern shooters (regenerating shields, vehicles, seamless melee and grenades). Halo had a much bigger impact on the industry, and unlike Goldeneye, the gameplay actually holds up.
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#22 EVOLV3
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Halo is more overrated than Goldeneye.

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#23 Floppy_Jim
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No, Halo isn't overrated. Never played Goldeneye but I doubt it would impress me over a decade after it came out.
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#24 CreepyBacon
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I think the fact every game gets compared to Halo, much like this topic proves it's a standard many seem to think needs to be met. As for it not being good on the PC; So? Goldeneye wasn't on the PC. Hell RTS suck on consoles that doesn't make starcraft a pile of junk.

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#25 Dante2710
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i probably was the only one who still played goldeneye even though i had a ps2 :? i loved it and i dont think its even close to being overrated at all
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#26 SparkyProtocol
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Bungie started regenerating health and dual wielding. OBEY
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#27 VendettaRed07
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goldeneye is not overrated. Playing it is like watching a movie from the 50s or 60s like you have to appriciate how original they were, and how everything after that copied them because of their success so watching those now might feel like its similar to a new movie you have seen but not as good, because of the time it was released which isnt fair

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Bungie started regenerating health and dual wielding. OBEYSparkyProtocol

goldeneye had duel weilding

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#29 mitu123
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[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"]Bungie started regenerating health and dual wielding. OBEYVendettaRed07

goldeneye had duel weilding

True, I can show a pic of it.
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#30 SparkyProtocol
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I now it did. I have Goldeneye, but I am almost sure that Marathon started DW.
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id say its where the world is not enough is , almost but not quite status

lets face it , it didnt even have ai in multiplayer so its ages behind timesplitters duke nukem perfect dark and the rest of the 007 games after goldeneye

lol

halo 2 did nothing to evolve halo and halo 3 definatelly was overated , all they added was forge ,

the clost your gonna get is this winters perfect dark re release im so getting that scrw halo odst reach and wars lol

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#32 mitu123
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I now it did. I have Goldeneye, but I am almost sure that Marathon started DW. SparkyProtocol
Oh, I heard about that game, but never played, my bad.
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#33 SparkyProtocol
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Doesn't matter. Halo and Goldeneye are both good games IMO
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goldeneye is only considered the best because it is an old game and to some people old is gold even though that game doesnt even come close to todays games.but since its old that means it must be good, there are few old games that are still good even today...but very few

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#35 g805ge
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GoldenEyeis more overrated than Halo.

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regenerated health is for noobs , , thats all i got to say, theres no challenge, goldeneye did each and every single thing halo does besides online -which dukenukem for pc had that and , more

halo was good for the xbox in its own merits but it still falls short of the timesplitters , perfect dark , goldeneye doom and duke nukem and quake series, id say its where the world is not enough is , almost but not quite status

lets face it , it didnt even have ai in multiplayer so its ages behind timesplitters duke nukem perfect dark and the rest of the 007 games after goldeneye

lol

also ,,

goldeneye was more challenging because

you not only had to do missions to unlock everything you had to do them in a certain time to access cheats for multiplayer or single player ,

perfect dark evolved goldeneye , , 007 perfect dark 64 evolved goldeneye ,, after perfect dark there was timesplitters which was last gens goldeneye , ,

and was again more challenging and more fun then halo 2 or 3 , halo 1 was pretty good at least it didnt focus to much on multiplayer , but it had a good mp and sp ,,

halo 2 did nothing to evolve halo and halo 3 definatelly was overated , all they added was forge ,

theyt didnt make any effort to do anything that involves unlockables and or other game changing things like slo mo , or unlimited ammo or paintball dk mode-fat heads all these things pd ge timesplitters do

also forge wasnt actually new,

its a watered down version of timesplitters map maker ,

another thing timesplitters/ge team did right ,

halo 3 may be the best 360s got as far as fps but lets face it , timesplitters future perfect is still the biggest fps of all time with 200 selectable characters 50 plus weapons 16 maps , plus about 7 premade map maker maps , and you can make your own , on the xbox it gives you loads of space so heck , ,

and ps3 for the ps2 version , , gives you alot of space just gotta keep swaping mem cards though , same for gc gotta have loads of mem cards ,

preferable the 1080 block memcard is the best option for gc/wii

so ya , just keep thinking halo is the best ever because i have proof its not

sales prove that

overall halo sold through 8.0 million world wide goldeneye sold 8.4 million

perfect dark same as goldeneye about 8.3

ts -8.0 million -across all 3 versions of ts2

and ts3 sold just about the same , so ya

their prety much supierer in fanbase and sales, and the games them selves arent pushovers either

youll never see goldeneye again , , mods dont count sorry half life fanboys ,

and now you wont see timesplitters again , , 2 of the best fps series around ,

the clost your gonna get is this winters perfect dark re release im so getting that scrw halo odst reach and wars lol

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#37 drj077
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Next to Tribes, Goldeneye is and always will be one of the best multiplayer games I've ever played and it far exceeds anything with the title Halo in terms of fun.

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#38 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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Goldeneye was never that great, Perfect Dark destroys it back then, and even now.
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[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"]Bungie started regenerating health and dual wielding. OBEYmitu123

goldeneye had duel weilding

True, I can show a pic of it.

I'm pretty sure Marathon had dual weilding.
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#40 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

goldeneye had duel weilding

AAllxxjjnn

True, I can show a pic of it.

I'm pretty sure Marathon had dual weilding.

Heard of it, never played it, though.

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#41 enix165
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I think they're both pretty overrated, TBH, but Halo less so...I never liked Goldeneye back in 2002 when my brother got it(odd if you ask me, because I like Agent Under Fire on the PS2 a lot...XD), and when I played it at a friend's in September we got bored after two games and went back to playing other games. XD Halo, on the other hand, I didn't like until recently...XD

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#42 g805ge
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Next to Tribes, Goldeneye is and always will be one of the best multiplayer games I've ever played and it far exceeds anything with the title Halo in terms of fun.

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#43 clubsammich91
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Who said goldeneye was overrated?
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#44 heretrix
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What is it with you people and all of the Halo hate? It's gotten beyond ridiculous. Just let it go.I've never seen a game get hated on so much in my entire time gaming.And Goldeneye is overrated.

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#45 river_rat3117
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Didn't Halo introduce regenerating health?

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GOD. i cant stand people who say that like its a good thing. IMO i think that is one of the worst things to happen to FPSs i mean come one if i get shot i shouldnt be able to camp like a ***** till my life comes back. ok it might make sense in halo or any other game where you are wearing a computer suit . but it shouldnt apply to games like cod

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#46 heretrix
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[QUOTE="Ross_the_B0SS"]

Didn't Halo introduce regenerating health?

river_rat3117

GOD. i cant stand people who say that like its a good thing. IMO i think that is one of the worst things to happen to FPSs i mean come one if i get shot i should be able to camp like a ***** till my life comes back. ok i might make sence in halo or any other game where you are wearing a computer suit . but it shouldnt apply to games like cod

You say that like finding health packs every 50 feet is realistic.

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#47 g805ge
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[QUOTE="Ross_the_B0SS"]

Didn't Halo introduce regenerating health?

river_rat3117

GOD. i cant stand people who say that like its a good thing. IMO i think that is one of the worst things to happen to FPSs i mean come one if i get shot i should be able to camp like a ***** till my life comes back. ok i might make sence in halo or any other game where you are wearing a computer suit . but it shouldnt apply to games like cod

Like I said, I love backtracking miles away for a health pack that replenishes 5% of your low health.

Marathon was the first to introduce a regenerating health/shield mechanic.

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#48 Hihatrider87
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their both classics. they also both have characteristics that annoy me now, but i still love playing them.

imo both are appropriately appreciated.

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#49 river_rat3117
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Didn't Halo introduce regenerating health?

GOD. i cant stand people who say that like its a good thing. IMO i think that is one of the worst things to happen to FPSs i mean come one if i get shot i should be able to camp like a ***** till my life comes back. ok i might make sence in halo or any other game where you are wearing a computer suit . but it shouldnt apply to games like cod

You say that like finding health packs every 50 feet is realistic.

i knew some one was going to bring that up i no i dont like that either. although that does add more intence moments in a game than camping your life back. i would prefer a life bar system that doesnt come back, either you get good or you die. like socoms health (well back when zipper was making single player in the old socom games) and socom also does it right by using this life system in online matches. im not going to get much further into this ive stated my opinion on it and thats just how i think it should be
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#50 pierst179
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That is what people will say about Halo over 10 years after its release.