Goldeneye Wii releases tomorrow in the US. Score predictions?

Yep, Goldeneye releases tomorrow in the US, Australia the day after (Nov. 3rd) and on November 5th in Europe. So what are your score predictions and why?

I'm leaning towards A, maybe AA on this one. I feel that it may be a good game to critics, but I have a feeling they'll say something like "it doesn't capture the magic the original had" or something like that.

I expect an 8. And why does Wikipedia say Eurocom developed Banjo Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts?:|

Yeah I'm guessing AE. The developer doesn't have a great track record. Silenthps

AA, best shooter on the Wii.

Who voted AAAA:lol:

I think its safe to predict a 7-8 range especially considering Nintendo usually allows embargos on reviews to fall early

So is this the official hype thread?

Below A. Just something about it... I can't quite put my finger on it. I just have this feeling that it's gonna bomb big time.

7.0 -8.0, somewhere in there...I will just say 7.5 to be kind.

8.0-8.5. yet another great AAE title for the wii(wii is the king of AAE)

So is this the official hype thread?

ianuilliam

Yep, Goldeneye releases tomorrow in the US and on November 5th in Europe and Australia. So what are your score predictions and why?

I'm leaning towards A, maybe AA on this one. I feel that it may be a good game to critics, but I have a feeling they'll say something like "it doesn't capture the magic the original had" or something like that.

nintendoboy16

I think it will be good, and for a Wii game probably really good, but by today's standards and compared to the other current-gen consoles it's not going to be anything particularly stand out and so it's going to be very hard pressed to score AAA and especially on gamespot imo, although it could happen if judged in context and relative to other Wii games as opposed to what the two far more powerful consoles are doing.

However, I wish it were a true AAA worthy game in every respect regardless of the platform it's on and when it's being released, just like the original truly was.

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

Yep, Goldeneye releases tomorrow in the US and on November 5th in Europe and Australia. So what are your score predictions and why?

I'm leaning towards A, maybe AA on this one. I feel that it may be a good game to critics, but I have a feeling they'll say something like "it doesn't capture the magic the original had" or something like that.

amaneuvering

I think it will be good, and for a Wii game probably really good, but by today's standards and compared to the other current-gen consoles it's not going to be anything particularly stand out and so it's going to be very hard pressed to score AAA and especially on gamespot imo, although it could happen if judged in context and relative to other Wii games as opposed to what the two far more powerful consoles are doing.

However, I wish it were a true AAA worthy game in every respect regardless of the platform it's on and when it's being released, just like the original truly was.

Actually Goldeneye gets released in Australia on the 3rd NOT the 5th, that's the European date. We have our ownCrystal-Rush

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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

Yep, Goldeneye releases tomorrow in the US and on November 5th in Europe and Australia. So what are your score predictions and why?

I'm leaning towards A, maybe AA on this one. I feel that it may be a good game to critics, but I have a feeling they'll say something like "it doesn't capture the magic the original had" or something like that.

rcafan

I think it will be good, and for a Wii game probably really good, but by today's standards and compared to the other current-gen consoles it's not going to be anything particularly stand out and so it's going to be very hard pressed to score AAA and especially on gamespot imo, although it could happen if judged in context and relative to other Wii games as opposed to what the two far more powerful consoles are doing.

However, I wish it were a true AAA worthy game in every respect regardless of the platform it's on and when it's being released, just like the original truly was.

I didn't mention anything to do with that. What I am basically saying is that the original was clearly AAA in every respect relative to it's time e.g. the graphics were some of the best of it's generation, the music and sound FX were some of the best of it's generation, the presentation was some of the best of it's generation, the controls and gameplay were some of the best of their generation, it had four player spit-screen, rumble support, a unique dual analog control option, some stunning time challenges on the levels that opened up some brilliant cheats that encouraged re-playability more than most games of it's time, etc etc...everything about the game at the time was about as good as it got, so it was cleary an AAA game then regardless of the platfom it was on.

The same simply cannot be said of the Wii version; the graphics are ok for a Wii game but utter crap next to any good looking PS3 or Xbox 360 games, certainly on a technical level. The presentation is ok but restricted by the power of the machine again. The game design and gameplay don't look to stand out in any way and certainly the online is far behind the kind of things we have come to expect on the other consoles.

It might be a good game in it's own right, and possibly a great game on Wii, but unfortunately it's just not in the same league as the original was relative to it's time and that's why it might not score AAA for example, and probably doesn't deserve to.I mean look at those circles for shadows for God's sake. That's not world class graphics by any stretch of the imagination there, but the original absolutely was for it's time.

The original was spectacular in almost every way for it's time, and in many ways genre defining (and it's legacy lives on till this day), but this new version just looks to be a decent Wii fps, maybe one of the best on the system (which really isn't saying that much relative to where the whole industry is and the other machines are right now), and that is really about it.

Do you understand?

[QUOTE="rcafan"][QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

I think it will be good, and for a Wii game probably really good, but by today's standards and compared to the other current-gen consoles it's not going to be anything particularly stand out and so it's going to be very hard pressed to score AAA and especially on gamespot imo, although it could happen if judged in context and relative to other Wii games as opposed to what the two far more powerful consoles are doing.

However, I wish it were a true AAA worthy game in every respect regardless of the platform it's on and when it's being released, just like the original truly was.

amaneuvering

reviews don't go by other console standard when reviewing the game tehy go what the cosnole can handle. this is a plan joke. there no other vierson of goldeneye 007. its only on wii/ds. they shouldn't be comparing it to james bond blood stone as that a diffrent game comeplete.

If the power stop people revewing great games than ps2 would have many 8's ... this is just not true.

your reason are not vaild.

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"][QUOTE="rcafan"] why does a game have to have something so diffrent tha many of the other fps to this date haven't done anything knew.rcafan

reviews don't go by other console standard when reviewing the game tehy go what the cosnole can handle. this is a plan joke. there no other vierson of goldeneye 007. its only on wii/ds. they shouldn't be comparing it to james bond blood stone as that a diffrent game comeplete.

If the power stop people revewing great games than ps2 would have many 8's ... this is just not true.

your reason are not vaild.

My reasons are perfectly valid and to prove it I bet you see many many reviews bring those particular points up again again in one way or another.

To even stand a chance of living up to the brilliance of the original it really did need to be doing everything top of the class imo and that quite simply is not going to be the case.

If it gets a good score, good for it, but by today's standards it doesn't look to be anything particularly brilliant or special at all, whereas the original absolutely was brilliant and special when it was released.

All those PS2 games that got 9s got them because they were truly brilliant for their time. If you reviewed them now nearly all of them would absolutely score lower, and that is just as it should be.

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"][QUOTE="rcafan"] why does a game have to have something so diffrent tha many of the other fps to this date haven't done anything knew.rcafan

reviews don't go by other console standard when reviewing the game tehy go what the cosnole can handle. this is a plan joke. there no other vierson of goldeneye 007. its only on wii/ds. they shouldn't be comparing it to james bond blood stone as that a diffrent game comeplete.

If the power stop people revewing great games than ps2 would have many 8's ... this is just not true.

your reason are not vaild.

Indeed they are not. As long as the SP and MP are as good as the N64 game, it's a success. That's what it's all about. Doesn't matter if the graphics don't stand up to 360 or PS3 standards. there are people still playing the game on N64 after all. It's mostly about gameplay, and Wii can do that just as well as 360 or PS3.

[QUOTE="rcafan"]

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"] I didn't mention anything to do with that. What I am basically saying is that the original was clearly AAA in every respect relative to it's time i.e. the graphics were some of the best of it's generation, the music and sound FX were some of the best of it's generation, the presentation was some of the best of it's generation, the controls and gameplay were some of the best of their generation...everything about the game at the time was about as good as it got, so it was cleary an AAA game then regardless of the platfom it was on. The same simply cannot be said of the Wii version; the graphics are ok for a Wii game but utter crap next to any good looking PS3 or Xbox 360 games, certainly on a technical level. The presentation is ok but restricted by the power of the machine again. The game design and gameplay don't look to stand out in any way and certainly the online is far behind the kind of things we have come to expect on the other consoles. It might be a good game in it's own right, and possibly a great game on Wii, but unfortunately it's just not in the same league as the original was relative to it's time and that's why it might not score AAA for example, and probably doesn't deserve to. I mean look at those circles for shadows for God's sake. That's not world class graphics by any stretch of the imagination there, but the original absolutely was for it's time. Do you understand?Wii4Fun

reviews don't go by other console standard when reviewing the game tehy go what the cosnole can handle. this is a plan joke. there no other vierson of goldeneye 007. its only on wii/ds. they shouldn't be comparing it to james bond blood stone as that a diffrent game comeplete.

If the power stop people revewing great games than ps2 would have many 8's ... this is just not true.

your reason are not vaild.

Indeed tehy are not. As long as the SP and MP are as good as the N64 game, it's a success. That's what it's all about. Doesn't matter if the graphics don't stand up to 360 or PS3 standards. there are people still playing the game on N64 after all.

[QUOTE="rcafan"]

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"] I didn't mention anything to do with that. What I am basically saying is that the original was clearly AAA in every respect relative to it's time i.e. the graphics were some of the best of it's generation, the music and sound FX were some of the best of it's generation, the presentation was some of the best of it's generation, the controls and gameplay were some of the best of their generation...everything about the game at the time was about as good as it got, so it was cleary an AAA game then regardless of the platfom it was on. The same simply cannot be said of the Wii version; the graphics are ok for a Wii game but utter crap next to any good looking PS3 or Xbox 360 games, certainly on a technical level. The presentation is ok but restricted by the power of the machine again. The game design and gameplay don't look to stand out in any way and certainly the online is far behind the kind of things we have come to expect on the other consoles. It might be a good game in it's own right, and possibly a great game on Wii, but unfortunately it's just not in the same league as the original was relative to it's time and that's why it might not score AAA for example, and probably doesn't deserve to. I mean look at those circles for shadows for God's sake. That's not world class graphics by any stretch of the imagination there, but the original absolutely was for it's time. Do you understand?amaneuvering

reviews don't go by other console standard when reviewing the game tehy go what the cosnole can handle. this is a plan joke. there no other vierson of goldeneye 007. its only on wii/ds. they shouldn't be comparing it to james bond blood stone as that a diffrent game comeplete.

If the power stop people revewing great games than ps2 would have many 8's ... this is just not true.

your reason are not vaild.

I suspect nostalgia will derail any accurate review scores for this game.

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[QUOTE="rcafan"]

reviews don't go by other console standard when reviewing the game tehy go what the cosnole can handle. this is a plan joke. there no other vierson of goldeneye 007. its only on wii/ds. they shouldn't be comparing it to james bond blood stone as that a diffrent game comeplete.

If the power stop people revewing great games than ps2 would have many 8's ... this is just not true.

your reason are not vaild.

rcafan

Indeed tehy are not. As long as the SP and MP are as good as the N64 game, it's a success. That's what it's all about. Doesn't matter if the graphics don't stand up to 360 or PS3 standards. there are people still playing the game on N64 after all.

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"][QUOTE="rcafan"]

reviews don't go by other console standard when reviewing the game tehy go what the cosnole can handle. this is a plan joke. there no other vierson of goldeneye 007. its only on wii/ds. they shouldn't be comparing it to james bond blood stone as that a diffrent game comeplete.

If the power stop people revewing great games than ps2 would have many 8's ... this is just not true.

your reason are not vaild.

rcafan

Or maybe those people quite fairly are just holding the games all-round quality and expectations up to the legacy and quality of the original since Activision saw fit to hype it as the next coming of the original. In that respect it most certainly can never be as good because already the graphics are nowhere near some of the best this gen, and neither is the online etc etc, so it already falls short of current-gen standards in many ways, whereas the original was at the pinnacle in pretty much every area relative to it's time. If it were just another typical Wii fps game this might not be the case, but it really isn't just another Wii fps game now is it. Not in terms of how people are going to judge it.

[QUOTE="rcafan"][QUOTE="Wii4Fun"]

Indeed tehy are not. As long as the SP and MP are as good as the N64 game, it's a success. That's what it's all about. Doesn't matter if the graphics don't stand up to 360 or PS3 standards. there are people still playing the game on N64 after all.

amaneuvering

I'm going to go with history on this one. It won't be AAAA because it isn't a Nintendo game. It won't be AAA because GS doesn't hand that score out to Wii games. It might be AA, but its a cash-in Activision remake. So I'm going to go with 7.5/10. Conservative, yet realistic. I think people are heavily over-estimating this game's potential. We are talking about Activision here... they don't go out of their way to spend lots of money to make high-quality games. They do what they have to to make them sell, and nothing more.

Though, I could be entirely wrong, and GS gives it AAA, and then proceeds to give both Mickey and Donkey Kong 8.0.

It's going to a get a 7.5. It's being hyped higher because Wii needs an FPS, and old Goldeneye was awesome for it's time. This new one doesn't look great.AmazingGaming

I'm going to go with history on this one. It won't be AAAA because it isn't a Nintendo game. It won't be AAA because GS doesn't hand that score out to Wii games. It might be AA, but its a cash-in Activision remake. So I'm going to go with 7.5/10. Conservative, yet realistic. I think people are heavily over-estimating this game's potential. We are talking about Activision here... they don't go out of their way to spend lots of money to make high-quality games. They do what they have to to make them sell, and nothing more.

Though, I could be entirely wrong, and GS gives it AAA, and then proceeds to give both Mickey and Donkey Kong 8.0.

foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"][QUOTE="rcafan"] i read a bit of an ign preview of online they only thing they said that might hurt it is the no voice chat, that would be about it i believe. well not to metion that the black box is really an orange box :Srcafan

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[QUOTE="amaneuvering"] Well there's just one example of what I'm talking about; most people expect and want voice chat in this day and age and not having it is a negative against the game as far as most current-gen gamers are concerned. There's many other other areas where the game will no doubt be judged similarly, such as the graphics of course. The original was a top tier AAA game without any doubt whatsoever in it's time, in pretty much every single area. It's clearly this game can't ever hope to be that because already there's two major areas where it clearly falls short; graphics and online. Graphics is very obvious, and online it lacks voice chat and only has 8 players and probably misses some of the more popular and common modes, etc etc etc.amaneuvering

Bond is a serect agent the only people that help is q and m. nothing more nothing else. i am not really huge online nor do i care. compare it to cod game which is a war game and if your playing online than yea i can see you wanting to talk. but when you are doing by yourself there no need for it. if i am going to play online i am playing free for all. period.

you need to let me have my opioion and stop trying to justify your crap opioion base on nothing but being shallow.

While I do think that Activision wouldn't put money into a flop...I still don't see anything appealing about the game, and wouldn't be surprised if it got 6.5'd.Planeforger

Realistically-7.5

its not a cash in... ui am tired of this lame excuse. if this was a cash in it be on ALL SYSTEMS.

rcafan

[QUOTE="rcafan"]its not a cash in... ui am tired of this lame excuse. if this was a cash in it be on ALL SYSTEMS.

foxhound_fox

It's a remake but they also have to change some of the formula to make it more current. If they had made it the same as the N64 game people would just say the game would suck because the old Goldeneye doesn't hold up to today's standards. Either way they would have opposition so...whatever...

I'd say between A and AAA. A review score of maybe 7.0 to 10.0.

I'm hoping they didn't pour all of their effort into multiplayer and screwed up the single player.