Gran Turismo 5 Prologue IS A FULL GAME

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#1 iamanehero
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GT5P IS A FULL GAME. But, it is not a full Gran Turismo game. That's where the confusion comes from. Unfortunately, Gran Turismo's vast amount of material just overshadows the prologue versions.

But, compared to other racing games, while it's not going to be the most content-packed one, it's definitely a full game.

If it weren't for Gran Turismo 5, they could probably just add a few more features and sell this for the full price. The only reason it's priced at $40 is because the actual GT5 will be $60 and then it just looks wrong.

And people who are calling it a demo are just sad. A demo is 1 track and 2-3 cars. I think Motorstorm's demo had 2 bikes and 2 cars. GT5P has over 60 cars. Seriously people crying "demo" have never actually played a racing game demo.

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#2 Chutebox
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Couldn't care less what people say, game is going to be awesome and is well worth the 40 bucks. It has 70 cars and 5 tracks with different paths in each...More than good enough for me.
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#3 Always-Honest
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GT5P IS A FULL GAME.

iamanehero

nope, it's part of a game still to come and in an unfinished state.

could still be great value and great to play

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#4 II-FBIsniper-II
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Couldn't care less what people say, game is going to be awesome and is well worth the 40 bucks. It has 70 cars and 5 tracks with different paths in each...More than good enough for me.Chutebox
Do you plan on buying GT5?

Then how is it worth the money since you are going to have to pay another $60 for the full game even though you already have paid 2/3 of the price for not even half of the game?

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#5 Rikusaki
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I also don't think it's really a demo.

Demo means demonstation.

GT5 Prologue is not a demonstaration when it has

60 cars,

5 tracks,

2 player spit screen offline,

Gran Turismo mode and

16 player online.

It is a full game that is the prologue to Gran Turismo 5.

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#6 skrat_01
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Its an extended demo.

Sheesh its obvious.

There are demos that have full online modes, and singleplayer levels ect.....

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#7 l-_-l
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*YAWN* Wake me when the demo is over.
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#8 Rikusaki
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Its an extended demo.

Sheesh its obvious.

There are demos that have full online modes, and singleplayer levels ect.....

skrat_01

Yes, but demos always have limitations or locked areas.

GT5: P is a full version of itself.

It's not a demo of GT5 because it simply isn't GT5.

It's the PROLOGUE to GT5.

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#9 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Its an extended demo.

Sheesh its obvious.

There are demos that have full online modes, and singleplayer levels ect.....

Rikusaki

Yes, but demos always have limitations or locked areas.

GT5: P is a full version of itself.

It's not a demo of GT5 because it simply isn't GT5.

It's the PROLOGUE to GT5.

It contains content that is available in GT5 - a taste of things to come.
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#10 Rikusaki
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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Its an extended demo.

Sheesh its obvious.

There are demos that have full online modes, and singleplayer levels ect.....

skrat_01

Yes, but demos always have limitations or locked areas.

GT5: P is a full version of itself.

It's not a demo of GT5 because it simply isn't GT5.

It's the PROLOGUE to GT5.

It contains content that is available in GT5 - a taste of things to come.

Yeah, but it is a different taste! It's the taste of a PROLOGUE, not a demo.

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#11 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Its an extended demo.

Sheesh its obvious.

There are demos that have full online modes, and singleplayer levels ect.....

Rikusaki

Yes, but demos always have limitations or locked areas.

GT5: P is a full version of itself.

It's not a demo of GT5 because it simply isn't GT5.

It's the PROLOGUE to GT5.

It contains content that is available in GT5 - a taste of things to come.

Yeah, but it is a different taste! It's the taste of a PROLOGUE, not a demo.

the term 'proluge' is just a fancy way of saying demo.

You get content in GT5: P that you get in GT5.

The only difference is that its out early and you are paying for it.

Its just a glorified demo that you are paying for, sure it will probably be good, but when you put down $60 to GT5 you are re-buying everything you bought GT5: P for.

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#12 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]Couldn't care less what people say, game is going to be awesome and is well worth the 40 bucks. It has 70 cars and 5 tracks with different paths in each...More than good enough for me.II-FBIsniper-II

Do you plan on buying GT5?

Then how is it worth the money since you are going to have to pay another $60 for the full game even though you already have paid 2/3 of the price for not even half of the game?

Because GT5 will be a much bigger game than Prol. Which is why the price for both is worth it.

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#13 HAZE-Unit
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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Its an extended demo.

Sheesh its obvious.

There are demos that have full online modes, and singleplayer levels ect.....

skrat_01

Yes, but demos always have limitations or locked areas.

GT5: P is a full version of itself.

It's not a demo of GT5 because it simply isn't GT5.

It's the PROLOGUE to GT5.

It contains content that is available in GT5 - a taste of things to come.

Yeah, but it is a different taste! It's the taste of a PROLOGUE, not a demo.

the term 'proluge' is just a fancy way of saying demo.

You get content in GT5: P that you get in GT5.

The only difference is that its out early and you are paying for it.

Its just a glorified demo that you are paying for, sure it will probably be good, but when you put down $60 to GT5 you are re-buying everything you bought GT5: P for.

GT5: P is a game of it's own way, it is not GT5 nor GT5 demo, GT5 won't be like GT5: P, they are different games.

I had GT4: P last gen, it was a different game from GT4, it was Prologue, it was the exact/specific meaning, not exaggerating as you say, not a demo like silly people are saying, don't judge something you don't even have a clue of..

I don't think if your favorite game came out in prolougue, you could skip it, if you knew the "game" ( I intend to not call it full game because GT5 will be different as I said) going to be released after 8-10 months.

I rather play GT5: P ( which is an amazing "demo" if you would like to call it) than waiting for another 8-10 months for the "game" to be released.

Just let the people enjoy what they are doing.

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#14 Zenfoldor
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It's a demo. Stop trying to convince yourself you didn't spend 50 bucks on a demo, in one of the worst, franchise milking, schemes of all time.

Anyone who owns it, fails. Sorry, truth hurts. Don't spend 50 dollars on a freakin' demo, ffs.

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#15 Rikusaki
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It's a demo. Stop trying to convince yourself you didn't spend 50 bucks on a demo, in one of the worst, franchise milking, schemes of all time.

Anyone who owns it, fails. Sorry, truth hurts. Don't spend 50 dollars on a freakin' demo, ffs.

Zenfoldor

It's really not. Prologue is it's own game. GT3 Prologue and GT4 Prologue were both very different from GT3 and GT4.

Gran Tuismo 5 is will be the follow-up to Prologue.

GT5: Prologue is the prologue TO GT5.

Not a demo OF GT5.

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#16 HAZE-Unit
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It's a demo. Stop trying to convince yourself you didn't spend 50 bucks on a demo, in one of the worst, franchise milking, schemes of all time.

Anyone who owns it, fails. Sorry, truth hurts. Don't spend 50 dollars on a freakin' demo, ffs.

Zenfoldor

I don't know how this demo keep me enjoying it, Im Freaking milked people, he is telling the truth, this is a demo, don't listen to me, I've payed $40 to the JP version and Im going to buy the US version, IM BEING MILKED TO THE FULLEST. :cry:

BTW, Im going to buy GT5 also, I can't get enough of GT series, I just can't.

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#17 Rikusaki
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[QUOTE="Zenfoldor"]

It's a demo. Stop trying to convince yourself you didn't spend 50 bucks on a demo, in one of the worst, franchise milking, schemes of all time.

Anyone who owns it, fails. Sorry, truth hurts. Don't spend 50 dollars on a freakin' demo, ffs.

HAZE-Unit

I don't know how this demo keep me enjoying it, Im Freaking milked people, he is telling the truth, this is a demo, don't listen to me, I've payed $40 to the JP version and Im going to buy the US version, IM BEING MILKED TO THE FULLEST. :cry:

BTW, Im going to buy GT5 also, I can't get enough of GT series, I just can't.

Same here. I have the Japenese version and I'm going to get the US version too.

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#18 Rikusaki
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I hope you guys understand this:

GT5: Prologue is the prologue TO GT5.

Not a demo OF GT5.

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#19 HAZE-Unit
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"][QUOTE="Zenfoldor"]

It's a demo. Stop trying to convince yourself you didn't spend 50 bucks on a demo, in one of the worst, franchise milking, schemes of all time.

Anyone who owns it, fails. Sorry, truth hurts. Don't spend 50 dollars on a freakin' demo, ffs.

Rikusaki

I don't know how this demo keep me enjoying it, Im Freaking milked people, he is telling the truth, this is a demo, don't listen to me, I've payed $40 to the JP version and Im going to buy the US version, IM BEING MILKED TO THE FULLEST. :cry:

BTW, Im going to buy GT5 also, I can't get enough of GT series, I just can't.

Same here. I have the Japenese version and I'm going to get the US version too.

I LOVE COLLECTING GT5 DEMOS, they don't offer anything but 70 cars, 2 player split-screen, drift mode, gran turismo mode, GT TV, 16 cars Online mode and the most realistic driving I've ever experienced.

And I wish they don't add damage, I want it to be the bumber cars 5, I like that way.

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#20 planbfreak4eva
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[QUOTE="iamanehero"]

GT5P IS A FULL GAME.

Always-Honest

nope, it's part of a game still to come and in an unfinished state.

could still be great value and great to play

who cares....only lemmings think its a demo....they can think whatever they want...we ppl are still buying the game...and the prologue will be by far better than forza 2
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#21 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Its an extended demo.

Sheesh its obvious.

There are demos that have full online modes, and singleplayer levels ect.....

HAZE-Unit

Yes, but demos always have limitations or locked areas.

GT5: P is a full version of itself.

It's not a demo of GT5 because it simply isn't GT5.

It's the PROLOGUE to GT5.

It contains content that is available in GT5 - a taste of things to come.

Yeah, but it is a different taste! It's the taste of a PROLOGUE, not a demo.

the term 'proluge' is just a fancy way of saying demo.

You get content in GT5: P that you get in GT5.

The only difference is that its out early and you are paying for it.

Its just a glorified demo that you are paying for, sure it will probably be good, but when you put down $60 to GT5 you are re-buying everything you bought GT5: P for.

GT5: P is a game of it's own way, it is not GT5 nor GT5 demo, GT5 won't be like GT5: P, they are different games.

I had GT4: P last gen, it was a different game from GT4, it was Prologue, it was the exact/specific meaning, not exaggerating as you say, not a demo like silly people are saying, don't judge something you don't even have a clue of..

I don't think if your favorite game came out in prolougue, you could skip it, if you knew the "game" ( I intend to not call it full game because GT5 will be different as I said) going to be released after 8-10 months.

I rather play GT5: P ( which is an amazing "demo" if you would like to call it) than waiting for another 8-10 months for the "game" to be released.

Just let the people enjoy what they are doing.

How is it its own game?

It contains content that will be in GT5.

All it is is a glorified pre release of GT5 - a 'extra large' demo, that you pay for.

Sure if a game I really had a extended demo that contained about 20% of the content of the full game 8 months before its release i'd consider buying it, but its just an extended demo.

Thats it.

Note i never said its bad.

However.

How will it be its own game?

Please elaborate, as by saying 'i have no clue' then not even borthering to enforce your point makes you look even worse.

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#22 elmafia
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I have no idea how you guys can say this is not a demo. Its not a full gran turismo game, yes. May it be bigger than some other racing games, yes. But if its not a full gran turismo game, then that makes it a demo. Because when the full game will be released you'll get the exact same stuff again, plus all the other stuff. I'm getting gran turismo 5 not gran turismo 5 - demo. I'm not saying its bad or anything. If a game I really wanted would do the same thing 8-10 months before the full game was out I might buy it. but it still a demo of what to come.
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#23 Stonin
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By all current measures this is a full game for the PS3. Sure it is short, lacking in content, overpriced and not available in over half of the territories but for a PS3 game that's the norm.

It is amazing what people will accept as good when the standards they are used to are so low.

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#24 WilliamRLBaker
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:lol:

It doesn't matter what you guys say GT5 prologue is a demo demo and prologue mean the EXACT same thing by definition, And its the truth GT5 prologue is a demo most magazines agree as well.

Your being asked to pay 40 dollars for a taste of whats in the full game that you will have to pay 60 dollars for....in essence GT5 prologue tells us one thing, the makers want money right now so instead of finishing the game and geting the full game out they want to release a half assed demo game and charge for it.

40+60=100 your paying 100 dollars for a game because heres the deal! YOU AREN'T geting a discount off the full game once it comes out.

IF you gotta keep telling your self this isn't a demo to justify spending 100 dollars on a game then go right ahead, but your paying 100 dollars for a lil plastic disc with some dyes in it. Atleast past super pricey games *steel betallion comes to mind* we're pricey as hell beacause of the mamoth controller that came with that game..your not geting any thing like that with this game.

ITs a demo deal with it.

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#25 iamanehero
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This is EXACTLY my point. Every argument in this thread that says GT5P is a demo, COMPARES IT TO GT5. But that's unfair because GT5 is so huge. If you compare it to ANY NON-GT RACING GAME, it's a full game. Hey, maybe for some people GT5P is enough. Or for some people, they would rather pay 40 for GT5P and 60 for GT5. I mean, if it's not ridiculous to pay 60 for Need for Speed or Ridge Racer and then 60 for GT5, then why is it ridic to pay 40 for GT5P and 60 for GT5?

It's like saying, Twilight Princess is CRAP because it's not nearly as good as Ocarina of Time. Well, that's only because OoT is the best game of all time. TP is still a great game. GT5 sets the bar so high that it makes GT5P looks lacking in content, but if you just judge it as a standalone game, it fares pretty well.

Name one demo that has even one-fifth the amount of cars in GT5P. Oh, you can't.

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#26 ChinoJamesKeene
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I also don't think it's really a demo.

Demo means demonstation.

GT5 Prologue is not a demonstaration when it has

60 cars,

5 tracks,

2 player spit screen offline,

Gran Turismo mode and

16 player online.

It is a full game that is the prologue to Gran Turismo 5.

Rikusaki

5 tracks is a demo.

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#27 Always-Honest
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[QUOTE="Always-Honest"][QUOTE="iamanehero"]

GT5P IS A FULL GAME.

planbfreak4eva

nope, it's part of a game still to come and in an unfinished state.

could still be great value and great to play

who cares....only lemmings think its a demo....they can think whatever they want...we ppl are still buying the game...and the prologue will be by far better than forza 2

tc cares.... i don't. people can buy what ever they want. i won't buy prologue though. you pay 40 bucks for an unfinished game that will be 60 bucks again if you want the finished full version. I'll buy the full version.

It will LOOK far better then Forza2 (buttugly jaggie game), but forza2 is VERY good as a racer. you didn't play it.

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#28 FrozenLiquid
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I think people need to look up the term prologue. I'm with you on this one Cows. I can see how lemmings and other fanboys can really work you. I guess they should start calling the prologues in novels "demos" :lol:. Demo of the main protagonist, demo of the main conflict, demo of the concept. :lol: Suck it up haters.
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#29 white45e
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GT5P IS A FULL GAME. But, it is not a full Gran Turismo game. That's where the confusion comes from. Unfortunately, Gran Turismo's vast amount of material just overshadows the prologue versions.

But, compared to other racing games, while it's not going to be the most content-packed one, it's definitely a full game.

If it weren't for Gran Turismo 5, they could probably just add a few more features and sell this for the full price. The only reason it's priced at $40 is because the actual GT5 will be $60 and then it just looks wrong.

And people who are calling it a demo are just sad. A demo is 1 track and 2-3 cars. I think Motorstorm's demo had 2 bikes and 2 cars. GT5P has over 60 cars. Seriously people crying "demo" have never actually played a racing game demo.

iamanehero

looks like cows are living upto their name

look out here comes sony to milk ya fankid

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#30 Always-Honest
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I think people need to look up the term prologue. I'm with you on this one Cows. I can see how lemmings and other fanboys can really work you. I guess they should start calling the prologues in novels "demos" :lol:. Demo of the main protagonist, demo of the main conflict, demo of the concept. :lol: Suck it up haters.FrozenLiquid

I think SONY need to look up the term prologue...

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#31 HAZE-Unit
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

GT5: P is a game of it's own way, it is not GT5 nor GT5 demo, GT5 won't be like GT5: P, they are different games.

I had GT4: P last gen, it was a different game from GT4, it was Prologue, it was the exact/specific meaning, not exaggerating as you say, not a demo like silly people are saying, don't judge something you don't even have a clue of..

I don't think if your favorite game came out in prolougue, you could skip it, if you knew the "game" ( I intend to not call it full game because GT5 will be different as I said) going to be released after 8-10 months.

I rather play GT5: P ( which is an amazing "demo" if you would like to call it) than waiting for another 8-10 months for the "game" to be released.

Just let the people enjoy what they are doing.

skrat_01

How is it its own game?

It contains content that will be in GT5.

All it is is a glorified pre release of GT5 - a 'extra large' demo, that you pay for.

Sure if a game I really had a extended demo that contained about 20% of the content of the full game 8 months before its release i'd consider buying it, but its just an extended demo.

Thats it.

Note i never said its bad.

However.

How will it be its own game?

Please elaborate, as by saying 'i have no clue' then not even borthering to enforce your point makes you look even worse.

Read what I said and you will know, read the bolded words.

The content and modes of GT4: P was different, even the gameplay.

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#32 Caseytappy
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How can it be a full game when its part of GT 5 ?

5 Tracks , ...........just 5 tracks , just 5 freaking tracks .... damn...maybe you mean " Fools game " ?

How about every dev. sells his game only partially and after that again when its completely finished , Cows don't seem to mind .

How about , MGS Prologue for 40 bucks , or the next FF Prologue , hands up GTA and the next Resident Evil Prologue Cows ??

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#33 FrozenLiquid
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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]I think people need to look up the term prologue. I'm with you on this one Cows. I can see how lemmings and other fanboys can really work you. I guess they should start calling the prologues in novels "demos" :lol:. Demo of the main protagonist, demo of the main conflict, demo of the concept. :lol: Suck it up haters.Always-Honest

I think SONY need to look up the term prologue...

No, they don't. Taken from dictionary.com: 1. a preliminary discourse; a preface or introductory part of a discourse, poem, or novel. 2. an introductory speech, often in verse, calling attention to the theme of a play. 3. the actor or actress who delivers this. 4. an introductory scene, preceding the first act of a play, opera, etc. 5. any introductory proceeding, event, etc.: Appetizing delicacies were the prologue to a long dinner. I mean, look, you didn't even need to learn the meaning behind the term to see how different a GT: P game is from a normal video game demo. You can call it milkage, you can call it foul play, you can call it almost anything you want just because you hate the idea. But it is essentially a polished introduction for the next installment in the series i.e a prologue. And quite frankly, it is unlike any other demo in terms of presentation and size.
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I'm probably going to buy it, but with rage and to sate my lust for a Gran Turismo game until GT5 comes out.
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No, they don't. Taken from dictionary.com: 1. a preliminary discourse; a preface or introductory part of a discourse, poem, or novel. 2. an introductory speech, often in verse, calling attention to the theme of a play. 3. the actor or actress who delivers this. 4. an introductory scene, preceding the first act of a play, opera, etc. 5. any introductory proceeding, event, etc.: Appetizing delicacies were the prologue to a long dinner. I mean, look, you didn't even need to learn the meaning behind the term to see how different a GT: P game is from a normal video game demo. You can call it milkage, you can call it foul play, you can call it almost anything you want just because you hate the idea. But it is essentially a polished introduction for the next installment in the series i.e a prologue. And quite frankly, it is unlike any other demo in terms of presentation and size.FrozenLiquid

I'm not saying it's a demo.. never did.. but it's not a full game. GT5 is the full game. when you buy prologue, you're buying an unfinished part of GT5. When you want to buy the rest of the game, you'll have to buy the entire game and pay 60 bucks..

For people who don't mind, fine.. they can buy whatever they like.. but it's not a full game.

for example: a prologue to a movie is not showing 2/3 of that same movie

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Taken from dictionary.com:

1. a preliminary discourse; a preface or introductory part of a discourse, poem, or novel.
2. an introductory speech, often in verse, calling attention to the theme of a play.
3. the actor or actress who delivers this.
4. an introductory scene, preceding the first act of a play, opera, etc.
5. any introductory proceeding, event, etc.: Appetizing delicacies were the prologue to a long dinner.

None of the above speaks of content that will be repeated again in the part it introduces , this doesn't apply to GT Prologue !

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#37 HAZE-Unit
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How can it be a full game when its part of GT 5 ?

5 Tracks , ...........just 5 tracks , just 5 freaking tracks .... damn...maybe you mean " Fools game " ?

How about every dev. sells his game only partially and after that again when its completely finished , Cows don't seem to mind .

How about , MGS Prologue for 40 bucks , or the next FF Prologue , hands up GTA and the next Resident Evil Prologue Cows ??

Caseytappy

What is it that make you suddenly care about the milkage we get? do you wanna pay for us or what? Im not directing this words only to you.

And I don't mind playing a MGS prologue for it, FF or whatever Big hitter game before its release.

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I don't care what it is since I don't own a PS3
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Taken from dictionary.com:

1. a preliminary discourse; a preface or introductory part of a discourse, poem, or novel.
2. an introductory speech, often in verse, calling attention to the theme of a play.
3. the actor or actress who delivers this.
4. an introductory scene, preceding the first act of a play, opera, etc.
5. any introductory proceeding, event, etc.: Appetizing delicacies were the prologue to a long dinner.

None of the above speaks of content that will be repeated again in the part it introduces , this doesn't apply to GT Prologue !

Caseytappy

See my other post, I said GT4: P was different from GT4.

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I don't care about the milkage you get but the TC calls it a full game and that is foolish , you yourself called it for what it is

" Milkage " .

Like the milk than go for it but the TC tries to justify his purchase here by calling it a stand alone full game , it makes him look insecure and isn't needed .

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Read what I said and you will know, read the bolded words.

The content and modes of GT4: P was different, even the gameplay.

HAZE-Unit

yes you have said again and again that its a different game, but you havent explained HOW the gameplay, content and modes were different.

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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]No, they don't. Taken from dictionary.com: 1. a preliminary discourse; a preface or introductory part of a discourse, poem, or novel. 2. an introductory speech, often in verse, calling attention to the theme of a play. 3. the actor or actress who delivers this. 4. an introductory scene, preceding the first act of a play, opera, etc. 5. any introductory proceeding, event, etc.: Appetizing delicacies were the prologue to a long dinner. I mean, look, you didn't even need to learn the meaning behind the term to see how different a GT: P game is from a normal video game demo. You can call it milkage, you can call it foul play, you can call it almost anything you want just because you hate the idea. But it is essentially a polished introduction for the next installment in the series i.e a prologue. And quite frankly, it is unlike any other demo in terms of presentation and size.Always-Honest

I'm not saying it's a demo.. never did.. but it's not a full game. GT5 is the full game. when you buy prologue, you're buying an unfinished part of GT5. When you want to buy the rest of the game, you'll have to buy the entire game and pay 60 bucks..

For people who don't mind, fine.. they can buy whatever they like.. but it's not a full game.

for example: a prologue to a movie is not showing 2/3 of that same movie

Do you think it is going to be called a demo by employees when the game is released? :lol: or are they going to call it the "unfinished game"? :lol: it is a full game, either if you like or not.

It is a prologue for the game, that is the name, no other one and I will buy it haters.

Im gonna enjoy the unifinished game 5.

Fanboys miss out ALOT.

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Taken from dictionary.com:

1. a preliminary discourse; a preface or introductory part of a discourse, poem, or novel.
2. an introductory speech, often in verse, calling attention to the theme of a play.
3. the actor or actress who delivers this.
4. an introductory scene, preceding the first act of a play, opera, etc.
5. any introductory proceeding, event, etc.: Appetizing delicacies were the prologue to a long dinner.

None of the above speaks of content that will be repeated again in the part it introduces , this doesn't apply to GT Prologue !

Caseytappy

Definition of demo

A demonstration, as of a product or service.

A brief tape or recording illustrating the abilities of a musician or other performer.

A product, such as an automobile, used for demonstration and often sold later at a discount.

Simply put prologue and demo are all most exactly the same thing, they both mean a taste of something before the main course or the test of something before the full version.

GT5 prologue is a demo.

@haze actually fanboys aren't missing any thing...all the stuff in GT5 prologue? will appear in the full game...so they can buy that for 60 bux instead of spending a full 100 to get the same product but more of it.

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Compared to other racing games on the market its quite sad that in some regards it overtakes them in terms of features and vehicle numbers. Even still though i don't like the idea of having to buy essentially the same improved and enhanced version again a year or so down the line so i'll give this a miss.
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

Read what I said and you will know, read the bolded words.

The content and modes of GT4: P was different, even the gameplay.

skrat_01

yes you have said again and again that its a different game, but you havent explained HOW the gameplay, content and modes were different.

Thank you, this is all I wanted to hear, your confirmation of your ignorance of the game/series.

Im not going to waste my time with you explaining anything anymore.

If you want some explanation, Search for it yourself.

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[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

Read what I said and you will know, read the bolded words.

The content and modes of GT4: P was different, even the gameplay.

HAZE-Unit

yes you have said again and again that its a different game, but you havent explained HOW the gameplay, content and modes were different.

Thank you, this is all I wanted to hear, your confirmation of your ignorance of the game/series.

Im not going to waste my time with you explaining anything anymore.

If you want some explanation, Search for it yourself.

and why was it different? because the users hated it and they literally had to change it or GT4 would not have sold.

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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]No, they don't. Taken from dictionary.com: 1. a preliminary discourse; a preface or introductory part of a discourse, poem, or novel. 2. an introductory speech, often in verse, calling attention to the theme of a play. 3. the actor or actress who delivers this. 4. an introductory scene, preceding the first act of a play, opera, etc. 5. any introductory proceeding, event, etc.: Appetizing delicacies were the prologue to a long dinner. I mean, look, you didn't even need to learn the meaning behind the term to see how different a GT: P game is from a normal video game demo. You can call it milkage, you can call it foul play, you can call it almost anything you want just because you hate the idea. But it is essentially a polished introduction for the next installment in the series i.e a prologue. And quite frankly, it is unlike any other demo in terms of presentation and size.Always-Honest

I'm not saying it's a demo.. never did.. but it's not a full game. GT5 is the full game. when you buy prologue, you're buying an unfinished part of GT5. When you want to buy the rest of the game, you'll have to buy the entire game and pay 60 bucks..

For people who don't mind, fine.. they can buy whatever they like.. but it's not a full game.

for example: a prologue to a movie is not showing 2/3 of that same movie

This is where I go "Que?" Simply because, I never stated it was a full game. I was clearly arguing against the case of it being a demo, and I clearly used that word in the first post. And since you replied to that comment, I assumed that you were arguing against that very point. Anyway, You're right: a prologue to a movie is not showing 2/3 of that same movie. Like a novel, it most usually leads into the main story. But that's one way of introducing material. It's not the only way. It's a prologue because it's indicative of the character, story, and concepts of the film. Much like the term anti-semetic has been transformed into a term exclusively for Jews in contemporary times (because it should be applicable to Arabs too), "prologue" has transformed into a term almost exclusively for chronologically preceding events. In, and of itself, I believe this game to be a full game. Like a volume of a series. Reading a bit more information on this game, it seems that the term "prologue" is really only in reference to the previous entry in the series. And also, they're releasing a demo of this game. So the skeptic's view is that it is a demo of a demo.

Taken from dictionary.com:

1. a preliminary discourse; a preface or introductory part of a discourse, poem, or novel.
2. an introductory speech, often in verse, calling attention to the theme of a play.
3. the actor or actress who delivers this.
4. an introductory scene, preceding the first act of a play, opera, etc.
5. any introductory proceeding, event, etc.: Appetizing delicacies were the prologue to a long dinner.

None of the above speaks of content that will be repeated again in the part it introduces , this doesn't apply to GT Prologue !

Caseytappy
Read above. And here's an example on why English is a very important subject. The topic today is "How I shall prove one of the above speaks for GT Prologue" So, a prologue is a "preliminary discourse". Let's break it down. I'm sure you've heard of in racing "preliminary rounds". I'm sure you've heard of "preliminary exams". They are repeated in the "main course". I'll say it again, they are repeated in the final 'version'. "Discourse". It means communication. In video game terms, it's the game play. So put them together again. "Prologue". "Preliminary discourse". "Introductory gameplay". You may aka it as "Caseytappy just got owned".
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

Read what I said and you will know, read the bolded words.

The content and modes of GT4: P was different, even the gameplay.

HAZE-Unit

yes you have said again and again that its a different game, but you havent explained HOW the gameplay, content and modes were different.

Thank you, this is all I wanted to hear, your confirmation of your ignorance of the game/series.

Im not going to waste my time with you explaining anything anymore.

If you want some explanation, Search for it yourself.

So you are not going to even bother enforcing your point or even try proving me wrong, let alone link me to a source

All this does is weaken your argument, and enforce the 'GT5: P is an extended demo' argument even more

And no im not 'ignorant' to the GT series, I own GT4, and purchased a Logitech Driving Force Pro Wheel for GT4 and PC racing sims

'ignorant'.... Gee just a bit ironic :roll:

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[QUOTE="Caseytappy"]

Taken from dictionary.com:

1. a preliminary discourse; a preface or introductory part of a discourse, poem, or novel.
2. an introductory speech, often in verse, calling attention to the theme of a play.
3. the actor or actress who delivers this.
4. an introductory scene, preceding the first act of a play, opera, etc.
5. any introductory proceeding, event, etc.: Appetizing delicacies were the prologue to a long dinner.

None of the above speaks of content that will be repeated again in the part it introduces , this doesn't apply to GT Prologue !

WilliamRLBaker

Definition of demo

A demonstration, as of a product or service.

A brief tape or recording illustrating the abilities of a musician or other performer.

A product, such as an automobile, used for demonstration and often sold later at a discount.

Simply put prologue and demo are all most exactly the same thing, they both mean a taste of something before the main course or the test of something before the full version.

GT5 prologue is a demo.

@haze actually fanboys aren't missing any thing...all the stuff in GT5 prologue? will appear in the full game...so they can buy that for 60 bux instead of spending a full 100 to get the same product but more of it.

The term "demo" denotes an unfinished state of something. That accounts for a vast majority of video game demos. You can get demos of films but the public never see them. The public only sees trailers, which are prologues: in crude terms a polished "demo". I think demos in that medium are on average much longer than a trailer.
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#50 hamidious
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I think we can call it an Episode of the full game, a very big episode that is. Much like Half Life 2 Episodes, only ...bigger.