Gran Turismo 5 TGS Rumors. (56k)

Bugatti Veyron? :P

asylumni

A good critic would not do something like that....but knowing GS... you are probably right.

Rikusaki

[QUOTE="asylumni"]Bugatti Veyron? :P

foxhound_fox

A good critic would not do something like that....but knowing GS... you are probably right.

Rikusaki

These two games shoulnd't even be compared like that.

The AI has been improved. We have seen these improvements in the GamesCon build:

#1 The AI can now spin out. Which means you can fish tail them. And they can fish tail you. "Note the Silver RX7 at the beginning in the IGN video... The RX7 spun out and ran into the guard rail just before the first turn in Tokyo.. so no more "rail" cars it seems.

#2 The AI seems to have the anti-lock breaks turned off. Note that in every video all the cars braking have smoke flying out of the back of them. So it seems wheel lock up is on AI cars and not just our cars. This is good for a sim racer.

#3 The AI cars seem to have no traction control. Computer cars now go sideways in the turns and smoke starts flying out the back tires, they no longer turn like they are a slot car with 10+ traction control.

#4 The AI speed and difficulty seems to be increased some what higher than in Prologue. They're a lot quicker through turns. An example of the huge field slow down in GT5p would be the Daytona Road Course at the chicanes. You can speed through on the apex but the AI just doddles along then speeds up on the straight. Seems like AI will now speed along the apex of turns.

Rikusaki

1.) I've been seeing the AI spin out since Forza 1.....

2.) Seen this since Forza 1.... again....

3.) Seems to again? Again, Forza 1...

4.) Once again with the seems to, I'm glad it took them like 7 games to figure out that the AI needs to offer sort of a challenge. Forza at least has had great AI from day 1.

How are they not playing catch up? Everything they add Forza already offers, and they have put out less games, had a smaller develop cycle, and did so using last generation technology (Forza 1 on the Xbox features plenty of things not found on GT5P). Talk about car count all you want, but when you want to talk features and overall experience, Forza takes it hands down.

From car damage on all vehicles, challenging AI, game modes and features, Forza has the upper hand here, and if GT5 manages to start including things that weren't there originally but suddenly popped up after Forza 3 was finalized, well you now have your answer as to why development took so long.

Ferrari Enzo? That's in Forza 2.... This whole event looks like nothing but showing off things that PolyPhony has put in since their time spent with Forza 3....

....But seriously. GS would not say, "Oh Forza lets you put decal stickers on the cars and GT doesn't. Minus one point."

These two games shoulnd't even be compared like that.

Rikusaki

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]....But seriously. GS would not say, "Oh Forza lets you put decal stickers on the cars and GT doesn't. Minus one point."

These two games shoulnd't even be compared like that.

foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]....But seriously. GS would not say, "Oh Forza lets you put decal stickers on the cars and GT doesn't. Minus one point."

These two games shoulnd't even be compared like that.

PS2_ROCKS

Thats why turn 10 puts a ginormous effort on physics, 360Fps physics engine, newaerodynamics engine, the tire deformation thing, Tires that wear at different points on the tire due to camber, real time telemetry,

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"] They aren't playing catch up... Just stop. Many games have Ferraris with damage. GT isn't playing catch up with them. That's ridiculous.foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]....But seriously. GS would not say, "Oh Forza lets you put decal stickers on the cars and GT doesn't. Minus one point."

These two games shoulnd't even be compared like that.

foxhound_fox

That's not the way PD looks at it.

Again, these two games should NOT be compared like this. Obviously, PD and Turn 10 have completely different approaches to what a racing-sim should be.

It just depends on what kind of person you are.

• GT is more about the celebration of cars. Very simplistic, sleek and has a very ****/professional presentation of the content. GT games have many concept models and cars that are years from release.

• Forza is about car culture. Forza games allow for more customization and allows you to express yourself through the automobile. Forza goes for a more upbeat presentation and allows for players to connect online and show off your rides.

Also, Tokyo Xtreme Racer 3 on the PS2 had a per-pixel livery editor.

Am I the only one who doesn't want a livery editor of any kind in any GT game ever?

I don't want to see pink Ferrari's with ridiculous riceybody kits and wings that add nothing to performance. That is NOT what GT is about.

I thought sim racers were about simulating the way various cars drives around the track, not what they look like while doing so.

PS2_ROCKS

The Ferrari Enzo and FXX were both in Forza 2... and both were damageable. Though, its good Polyphony is playing catchup.

foxhound_fox

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I thought sim racers were about simulating the way various cars drives around the track, not what they look like while doing so.

heretrix

Am I the only one who doesn't want a livery editor of any kind in any GT game ever?

I don't want to see pink Ferrari's with ridiculous riceybody kits and wings that add nothing to performance. That is NOT what GT is about.

EliteKitteh

Anyone remember the jessica alba car in forza 2?

It looked, so real. I thought it was a mod at first.

Anyone remember the jessica alba car in forza 2?
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It looked, so real. I thought it was a mod at first.Tobin09

Theres a better one, by far, but I could only find pic of this one.

^That is just atrocious, sorry to be so harsh, I like your art alot on all of the sigs I have seen around here you have made, but that basically ruins a car IMO. To me that is the equivalent to painting master chiefs face on the statue of david.

Theres a better one, by far, but I could only find pic of this one.

Patience GT fans, patience. Good things come to those who wait. By the time GT5 releases it will be a monumental title that would be worth the wait. All eyes on TGS everyone, it's gonna be BIG

[QUOTE="Tobin09"]

Theres a better one, by far, but I could only find pic of this one.

Tobin09

I think this should be the topic :oops::oops:

You need to have your own personal laugh-track Riku. I can't help but laugh at you everytime you post info about GT5 that would require a stalkers obsession. I even giggle a little when you defend it to the bitter end, no matter how far behind it is in this evolving genre.

Patience GT fans, patience. Good things come to those who wait. By the time GT5 releases it will be a monumental title that would be worth the wait. All eyes on TGS everyone, it's gonna be BIG

Swift_Boss_A

Patience GT fans, patience. Good things come to those who wait. By the time GT5 releases it will be a monumental title that would be worth the wait. All eyes on TGS everyone, it's gonna be BIG

i don't even know what to tell gt fans anymore..

the only way i can try to understand the loyalty in the face of what the gt franchise has actually put out lately is to think of some poor person who has only ever had vanilla ice cream and refuses to try anything else, you can try to tell them how good rocky road, strawberry and banana is but they will never believe you unless they try it themselves

thats what GT is now, vanilla ice cream and all the other racers out there have sprinkles, and fudgy topping and whipped cream and even though you like vanilla you look at these people that don't know the difference and all you can do is feel sorry for them and what they are missing out on

You need to have your own personal laugh-track Riku. I can't help but laugh at you everytime you post info about GT5 that would require a stalkers obsession. I even giggle a little when you defend it to the bitter end, no matter how far behind it is in this evolving genre.MrGrimFandango

i don't even know what to tell gt fans anymore..

the only way i can try to understand the loyalty in the face of what the gt franchise has actually put out lately is to think of some poor person who has only ever had vanilla ice cream and refuses to try anything else, you can try to tell them how good rocky road, strawberry and banana is but they will never believe you unless they try it themselves

thats what GT is now, vanilla ice cream and all the other racers out there have sprinkles, and fudgy topping and whipped cream and even though you like vanilla you look at these people that don't know the difference and all you can do is feel sorry for them and what they are missing out on

Riverwolf007

Gran Turismo:

Forza Motorsport:

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

i don't even know what to tell gt fans anymore..

the only way i can try to understand the loyalty in the face of what the gt franchise has actually put out lately is to think of some poor person who has only ever had vanilla ice cream and refuses to try anything else, you can try to tell them how good rocky road, strawberry and banana is but they will never believe you unless they try it themselves

thats what GT is now, vanilla ice cream and all the other racers out there have sprinkles, and fudgy topping and whipped cream and even though you like vanilla you look at these people that don't know the difference and all you can do is feel sorry for them and what they are missing out on

Rikusaki

Gran Turismo:

Forza Motorsport:

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

i don't even know what to tell gt fans anymore..

the only way i can try to understand the loyalty in the face of what the gt franchise has actually put out lately is to think of some poor person who has only ever had vanilla ice cream and refuses to try anything else, you can try to tell them how good rocky road, strawberry and banana is but they will never believe you unless they try it themselves

thats what GT is now, vanilla ice cream and all the other racers out there have sprinkles, and fudgy topping and whipped cream and even though you like vanilla you look at these people that don't know the difference and all you can do is feel sorry for them and what they are missing out on

Gran Turismo:

Forza Motorsport:

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

i don't even know what to tell gt fans anymore..

the only way i can try to understand the loyalty in the face of what the gt franchise has actually put out lately is to think of some poor person who has only ever had vanilla ice cream and refuses to try anything else, you can try to tell them how good rocky road, strawberry and banana is but they will never believe you unless they try it themselves

thats what GT is now, vanilla ice cream and all the other racers out there have sprinkles, and fudgy topping and whipped cream and even though you like vanilla you look at these people that don't know the difference and all you can do is feel sorry for them and what they are missing out on

Rikusaki

Gran Turismo:

Forza Motorsport:

all i can hope is that you are currently playing something you like and not just sitting aroung waiting for gt5... dirt 2 is way fun and one of my friends is telling me NFS: Shift is a really good game too

PLEASE, if you can, post a pic of that here.AdobeArtist

[QUOTE="Tobin09"][QUOTE="CaparoT1"] LOL, Forza fans are the best. They appear to know 0 about actual cars and how they drive along wiht capabilities, and brag about physics, then make a fuss about grpahics and when they get owned by GT5 suddenly graphics dont matter any more.CaparoT1

[quote="Rikusaki"]Gran Turismo: Forza Motorsport:II-FBIsniper-II

PLEASE, if you can, post a pic of that here.AdobeArtist

[QUOTE="CaparoT1"][QUOTE="Tobin09"] OMG, what is wrong with you! If you know so much about cars, then please, do remind me of what significance tire camber is, and how caster plays into that role. Your probobly one of those kids who remember 0-60 times, displacements of several cars, and thinks they know everything. You not being able to distinguish a CG cars dancing video, from gameplay, proves to me you don't have the mental capacity to understand the inner workings of a car.Tobin09

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If GT5 release date is announced...OMFG!!!

heretrix

If OMFG = It's about dang time, then, yeah I agree.

[QUOTE="Tobin09"][QUOTE="CaparoT1"] This some type of joke, camber is the tilt of a tire, and its mesured in relation to the caster which is the center of the tire meeting the axle. Now dont give me this BS about Forza being a serious car sim. Also you have an american car in your sig...tells me a lot about a person. American cars = rubish....CaparoT1

Nice stuff, if only Porsche would join the party.GSuser123

Porsche joined the party in aka RUF
Ruf is a tuning company of porsche and makes most of the parts that make a porsche.
when you play haven't you noticed that RUF look like porsche?

[QUOTE="CaparoT1"][QUOTE="Tobin09"] Ok, so you googled it good job. Tells more about you to judge based on stereotypes, I mean, hating on american cars is the cool thing right?bleehum

[QUOTE="CaparoT1"][QUOTE="Tobin09"] Ok, so you googled it good job. Tells more about you to judge based on stereotypes, I mean, hating on american cars is the cool thing right?bleehum

And there's nothing rubbish about this car.

Cool. GT5 during holiday would be good for Sony. Personally, I would rather wait so they can put proper physics/damage on every car in the game :|.

[QUOTE="bleehum"][QUOTE="CaparoT1"] Googled? hah you're actually a joke... And its not the "cool thing" generally american cars suck. The ZR1 is respectable, but it has its limits. GM, Ford, etc make some of the worst cars. the only american car company i can show respect to is Shelby. (though dont get me wrong i love my american classics Pontiac GTO :P now thats a good old american car 350hp v8)CaparoT1

[QUOTE="Tobin09"][QUOTE="CaparoT1"] This some type of joke, camber is the tilt of a tire, and its mesured in relation to the caster which is the center of the tire meeting the axle. Now dont give me this BS about Forza being a serious car sim. Also you have an american car in your sig...tells me a lot about a person. American cars = rubish....CaparoT1

And yet your name is Caparo T1... could have at least chosen a good car.

[QUOTE="CaparoT1"][QUOTE="bleehum"] Isn't Shelby owned by Ford? >.>Tobin09

[QUOTE="Tobin09"][QUOTE="CaparoT1"] Yeah, but it dessn't mean ford cars stop sucking...lol... tata owns Jaguar, but that doesnt make tata cars suddenly good.CaparoT1

[QUOTE="CaparoT1"][QUOTE="Tobin09"] Ok, so you googled it good job. Tells more about you to judge based on stereotypes, I mean, hating on american cars is the cool thing right?Z0MBIES

And yet your name is Caparo T1... could have at least chosen a good car.

[QUOTE="CaparoT1"][QUOTE="Tobin09"] Volkswagen~Bugatti anyone?Tobin09

This is what Gran Turismo 5 will do to forza 3