Gran Turismo 5: the one PS3 game that was NOT smoke and mirrors (56k warning)

When GT5 was in its early days--when it was only called "Vision Gran Turismo"--I remember people doubting whether or not the footage shown was real.

Specifically, when this trailer was released, folks said that it was more smoke and mirrors--that Sony was just showing another Killzone or Motorstorm trailer.

Also, early screenshots like this one were repeatedly called CGI smoke and mirrors:

Sony did bite itself in the *** by releasing those CG trailers, but you gotta give credit where it's due. Polyphony lived up to its promise. The Vision GT trailer looked like CGI, but Gran Turismo 5 Prologue looks just as good, if not better in some scenes:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/23935.html

Gameplay Demo of Prologue

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24083.html

GT5: the one PS3 game that looked too good to be true, but actually lived up to its promise.

...and this is not even the final product.

Very nice.

i'd wait before i'd say that. you haven't learned have youfurtherfan

Yes, I haven't learned :roll:

Millions of people have already played the GTHD demo. It's real.

GT5 Prologue is a step up from GTHD. And GT5 will very probably be a step up from GT5 Prologue.

[QUOTE="furtherfan"]i'd wait before i'd say that. you haven't learned have youfuzzysquash

Yes, I haven't learned :roll:

Millions of people have already played the GTHD demo. It's real.

GT5 Prologue is a step up from GTHD. And GT5 will very probably be a step up from GT5 Prologue.

I don't think the cars arwe rendered in that much detail in-game, all screens and videos might be running from the game engine but i doubt the cars in-game what have lighting as good as that pic or be as smooth. Don't get me wrong though, still the best car models iv seen in a game.

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[QUOTE="furtherfan"]i'd wait before i'd say that. you haven't learned have youTheFlush

Yes, I haven't learned :roll:

Millions of people have already played the GTHD demo. It's real.

GT5 Prologue is a step up from GTHD. And GT5 will very probably be a step up from GT5 Prologue.

That's nice. But it's the foundation for GT5 Prologue and GT5.

Millions of gamers can attest that the screenshots and videos prior to GTHD's release were real.

The same will go for GT5 Prologue. There was a live gameplay demo of Prologue at GC 2007:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24083.html

[QUOTE="furtherfan"]i'd wait before i'd say that. you haven't learned have youfuzzysquash

Yes, I haven't learned :roll:

Millions of people have already played the GTHD demo. It's real.

GT5 Prologue is a step up from GTHD. And GT5 will very probably be a step up from GT5 Prologue.

@OP

best thing todo is wait until the game is released to talk about graphics... Sony have a habit of lying.

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[QUOTE="furtherfan"]i'd wait before i'd say that. you haven't learned have you-wii60-

Yes, I haven't learned :roll:

Millions of people have already played the GTHD demo. It's real.

GT5 Prologue is a step up from GTHD. And GT5 will very probably be a step up from GT5 Prologue.

From what I can tell, the environments already look improved in Prologue. And like I said in the original post, it's still a work in progress. They're probably focusing on car models first, and then on physics, damage, environment later on.

In any case, your criticism of GTHD's environments is beside the point of my original post. GT5 Prologue has already lived up to the promise of those original trailers/screenshots for Vision GT.

I don't think the cars arwe rendered in that much detail in-game, all screens and videos might be running from the game engine but i doubt the cars in-game what have lighting as good as that pic or be as smooth. Don't get me wrong though, still the best car models iv seen in a game.

michael098

Well, PGR3 car models looked most spectacular in garage mode too. You're obviously not going to see that much detail whille racing, but those models are real-time alright.

Its easy to make a racing game look good when u dont have a damage system in place, ropey physics and lack lustre environments.

Forza is still the king in my opinion, GT5 will have to do somethin very special indeed to change my view.

[QUOTE="-wii60-"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

[QUOTE="furtherfan"]i'd wait before i'd say that. you haven't learned have youfuzzysquash

Yes, I haven't learned :roll:

Millions of people have already played the GTHD demo. It's real.

GT5 Prologue is a step up from GTHD. And GT5 will very probably be a step up from GT5 Prologue.

From what I can tell, the environments already look improved in Prologue. And like I said in the original post, it's still a work in progress. They're probably focusing on car models first, and then on physics, damage, environment later on.

In any case, your criticism of GTHD's environments is beside the point of my original post. GT5 Prologue has already lived up to the promise of those original trailers/screenshots for Vision GT.

Its easy to make a racing game look good when u dont have a damage system in place, ropey physics and lack lustre environments.

Forza is still the king in my opinion, GT5 will have to do somethin very special indeed to change my view.

l34052

But's not full 3D.. only the cars on the track, having a pre rendered background lets u to have better looking car models, and the rest for other graphical effects.
-wii60-

I'm quite sure that neither you or I am qualified enough to make sweeping judgments about Polyphony's ability to deliver on a complete graphical package (environments, cars, and all) in GT5.

When you watch the Prologue gameplay demo, the environment does not look 2D, as it admittedly did in GTHD.

Finally, as I've said before, Prologue does indeed deliver on the promise of Vision GT, as evidenced by screenshots and gameplay videos.

But the PS3 has no colorz so this must be fake!

Great shots. The controls better not suck like Lair.

So what, great graphics .... what will really make this different from GT4?daqua_99

Great graphics is the point of this thread. More specifically, graphics that lived up to the hype.

And better graphics in a racing game means a more immersive experience.

no HDR, no Dynamic Lightning on the car, no Smoke , less detailed environment. Justheavily polygoned cars out there. 007ybse04

Uh huh. Did you even watch the gameplay video?

[QUOTE="-wii60-"]

But's not full 3D.. only the cars on the track, having a pre rendered background lets u to have better looking car models, and the rest for other graphical effects.
fuzzysquash

I'm quite sure that neither you or I am qualified enough to make sweeping judgments about Polyphony's ability to deliver on a complete graphical package (environments, cars, and all) in GT5.

When you watch the Prologue gameplay demo, the environment does not look 2D, as it admittedly did in GTHD.

Finally, as I've said before, Prologue does indeed deliver on the promise of Vision GT, as evidenced by screenshots and gameplay videos.

fuzzy speaks truth. quit while your head wii60.

the car selection screen is lol xD

the bacdrop is all 2D bar the car :roll: which is most likely the only 'real' time item on the screen....

[QUOTE="007ybse04"]no HDR, no Dynamic Lightning on the car, no Smoke , less detailed environment. Justheavily polygoned cars out there. fuzzysquash

Uh huh. Did you even watch the gameplay video?

looked great. but mostly the cars. when that video showed the racing you don't get to see the environment much but of what i saw of the trees and some other side items the textures were low res and some were just flat.

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

[QUOTE="007ybse04"]no HDR, no Dynamic Lightning on the car, no Smoke , less detailed environment. Justheavily polygoned cars out there. Ontain

Uh huh. Did you even watch the gameplay video?

looked great. but mostly the cars. when that video showed the racing you don't get to see the environment much but of what i saw of the trees and some other side items the textures were low res and some were just flat.

[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

[QUOTE="007ybse04"]no HDR, no Dynamic Lightning on the car, no Smoke , less detailed environment. Justheavily polygoned cars out there. ragrdoll21

Uh huh. Did you even watch the gameplay video?

looked great. but mostly the cars. when that video showed the racing you don't get to see the environment much but of what i saw of the trees and some other side items the textures were low res and some were just flat.

If it has a low res environment, it wont matter how good the cars look.. It will make the game look like trash overall

like oh my god, this is so fantastic. nearly 2 years after launch Sony fanboys will finally have a game that (possibly) delivers on promises.

i'll hold my judgement until launch seeing nearly all hyped PS3 games so far have turned out to just be eye candy with no gameplay value.

[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

[QUOTE="007ybse04"]no HDR, no Dynamic Lightning on the car, no Smoke , less detailed environment. Justheavily polygoned cars out there. ragrdoll21

Uh huh. Did you even watch the gameplay video?

looked great. but mostly the cars. when that video showed the racing you don't get to see the environment much but of what i saw of the trees and some other side items the textures were low res and some were just flat.

I did say the cars looked great. probably better than any other game. but there's always a price to pay. over all i don't think that the trees and other side items mean all that much when you're driving and they are wizzing by but it is something.

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You guys find some thing wrong with every damn PS3 game....just give them their respect and leave.DoctorBunny

If it has a low res environment, it wont matter how good the cars look.. It will make the game look like trash overall

lets not get too crazy. it doesn't look like trash. we're only critical because we're watching a video of the game. if we were playing we'd be looking at the cars more than the trees. the trees would just be a blur since they are going by quickly and they wouldn't be the focus of our eyes.

[QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

[QUOTE="007ybse04"]no HDR, no Dynamic Lightning on the car, no Smoke , less detailed environment. Justheavily polygoned cars out there. DoctorBunny

Uh huh. Did you even watch the gameplay video?

looked great. but mostly the cars. when that video showed the racing you don't get to see the environment much but of what i saw of the trees and some other side items the textures were low res and some were just flat.

If it has a low res environment, it wont matter how good the cars look.. It will make the game look like trash overall

but then again, it's the best looking racing game now.

[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"][QUOTE="ragrdoll21"]

You guys find some thing wrong with every damn PS3 game....just give them their respect and leave.Ontain

If it has a low res environment, it wont matter how good the cars look.. It will make the game look like trash overall

lets not get too crazy. it doesn't look like trash. we're only critical because we're watching a video of the game. if we were playing we'd be looking at the cars more than the trees. the trees would just be a blur since they are going by quickly and they wouldn't be the focus of our eyes.

I recognize the criticisms of the environment. Like I said, it already looks improved from GTHD, and it's not a finished product. They're continuing to work on it.

My only point with this thread is to show that GT5 Prologue has lived up to the promise of Vision GT.

Its easy to make a racing game look good when u dont have a damage system in place, ropey physics and lack lustre environments.

Forza is still the king in my opinion, GT5 will have to do somethin very special indeed to change my view.

l34052

The "no damage" criticism is played out, not to mention irrelevant since GT5 will have damage.

[QUOTE="l34052"]

Its easy to make a racing game look good when u dont have a damage system in place, ropey physics and lack lustre environments.

Forza is still the king in my opinion, GT5 will have to do somethin very special indeed to change my view.

fuzzysquash

The "no damage" criticism is played out, not to mention irrelevant since GT5 will have damage.

What happens in Forza/PGR When you ram into a wall at 230mph? Your bumper falls off. Yeah.. thats realyl real... Im glad GT5 Held out on fake damage.

no HDR, no Dynamic Lightning on the car, no Smoke , less detailed environment. Justheavily polygoned cars out there. 007ybse04

:lol:, Oh God.