Gran Turismo 5 vs Forza 3: Setting the Stakes

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#1 Killzowner
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Heres what im thinking, whichever game gets a higher rating on GS, thats it, that system is officially better. Im willing to put a tie on the line just for 360 owners to agree on this deal, thats how confident i am that GT5 will score higher then forza 3. if GT5>forza3 then we agree the PS3 > 360 if forza3 >= GT5, 360 > PS3. Im sure cows will have no problem with this theory because they are confident GT5 is the better game, hopefully the lemmings havent gave up on forza 3 though despite all the bad news they are spurting out about it.
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#2 Jaysonguy
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Why would that make sense to do?

Why that genre over any others?

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#3 ChrisSpartan117
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Please, for the love of God, please stop the GT5 vs. Forza 3 threads. Please. It just gets worse every time people do it.

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#4 SilverChimera
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im not sure if you're being serious here or not. but one game will not determine the winner of the wars unless it is metal gear solid 4.

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Why would we base superiority of a system (which is, in and of itself, an arbitrary ideal, subject to an individuals preference on numerous variables) to a makeshift feud between two racing titles?
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#6 Doolz2024
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I have a feeling both are going to get a 9 here on GS. I could be wrong, though.
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#7 killa4lyfe
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Please, for the love of God, please stop the GT5 vs. Forza 3 threads. Please. It just gets worse every time people do it.

ChrisSpartan117
yeah but it makes for great fun u know, like bioshockownz and that greenwalt guy vs like the cows. Its cheap entertainment *grabs popcorn*
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#8 Killzowner
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im not sure if you're being serious here or not. but one game will not determine the winner of the wars unless it is metal gear solid 4.

SilverChimera
becuase lemmings wont accept the fact that ps3>360 even with MGS4, they always bring up forza series as "the racing sim". other genres are plentiful on both system, but with this one, the lemmings own terms should help them finally admit the ps3 is better. so i say we go with not only the series that they think sets standards, but on that is in a genre that only these 2 games really matter.
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#9 swazidoughman
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I have a feeling both are going to get a 9 here on GS. I could be wrong, though.Doolz2024

They better not get the same score.

Sure, the lulz will be immense, but the amount of whiney GT:5 and F3 threads will kill the board.

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[QUOTE="Killzowner"][QUOTE="SilverChimera"]

im not sure if you're being serious here or not. but one game will not determine the winner of the wars unless it is metal gear solid 4.

becuase lemmings wont accept the fact that ps3>360 even with MGS4, they always bring up forza series as "the racing sim". other genres are plentiful on both system, but with this one, the lemmings own terms should help them finally admit the ps3 is better. so i say we go with not only the series that they think sets standards, but on that is in a genre that only these 2 games really matter.

Or maybe, just maybe people have different opinions. I have a PS3 and a 360, but I prefer the 360 and Forza. It doesn't make me right or wrong, it's just my opinion. And I certainly wouldn't think that one game would determine if one console is better than the other. And honestly, a lot of PS3 owners didn't like MGS4, including myself.
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#11 infamous_27
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I'd be disapointed if GT5 only got a 9 on Gamespot considering all the work PD put into the game.

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#12 Threebabycows
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[QUOTE="SilverChimera"]

im not sure if you're being serious here or not. but one game will not determine the winner of the wars unless it is metal gear solid 4.

Killzowner

becuase lemmings wont accept the fact that ps3>360 even with MGS4, they always bring up forza series as "the racing sim". other genres are plentiful on both system, but with this one, the lemmings own terms should help them finally admit the ps3 is better. so i say we go with not only the series that they think sets standards, but on that is in a genre that only these 2 games really matter.

LMAO, what does MGS4 have to do with FM3?Why should the PS3 be better in the racing sim/racing genre? The 360 owners have PGR3&4, Forza 2 and soon to be FM3. While cows have A GT5 demo, ridge racer?, and umm yea.

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#13 imaps3fanboy
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GT5 > Forza 3

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#14 ChrisSpartan117
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Why would we base superiority of a system (which is, in and of itself, an arbitrary ideal, subject to an individuals preference on numerous variables) to a makeshift feud between two racing titles?DonPerian
Because neither console has made a really powerful attempt to dominate the racing sim genre like GT5 and FM2 are.
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I'll probably get both, the g25 works on xbox right?
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#16 Fizzman
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why would anyone agree to that it makes zero sense, and only the most completely delusional fanboy would agree to that.

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#17 DarknessLion
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I have a feeling both are going to get a 9 here on GS. I could be wrong, though.Doolz2024
Then they will have nothing to fight about.
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#18 Killzowner
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why would anyone agree to that it makes zero sense, and only the most completely delusional fanboy would agree to that.

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hmm, just curious, do you like forza mroe or GT? my guess is....LOL.
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#19 Gamer556
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I remember GT fanboys showing this same kind of confidence back when GT4 came out.

How did that go again?

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#20 Fizzman
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

why would anyone agree to that it makes zero sense, and only the most completely delusional fanboy would agree to that.

Killzowner

hmm, just curious, do you like forza mroe or GT? my guess is....LOL.

gonna get both, and i prefer forza just a tad more then GT5. How will it affect me in the slightest sense? You are just an incredibly insecure fanboy who gets all hot and bothered when people say they prefer the 360 over the ps3.

can you explain to me how the PS3 would automatically be the better system solely on one game outscoring another?

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#21 Rikusaki
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I'm just gonna post what killed the last GT5 vs. FM3 thread:

  • Gran Turismo is all about the quality and quantity of the content and how it's presented. GT has always been about making the racing sim genre appeal to the mass audience.
  • Forza Motorsport is about the things you can do with that content and the ability to customize it to your liking. It's more about expressing yourself through the automobile.

Two very different apporaches to what a racing sim should be.

I don't even know why we still compare them like this anymore..

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#22 Killzowner
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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

I'm just gonna post what killed the last GT5 vs. FM3 thread:

Gran Turismo is all about the quality and quantity of the content and how it's presented. GT has always been about making the racing sim genre appeal to the mass audience. Forza Motorsport is about the things you can do with that content and the ability to customize it to your liking. It's more about expressing yourself through the automobile.

Two very different apporaches to what a racing sim should be.

I don't even know why we still compare them like this anymore..

sounds like forza 3 is sounds like its relying on gimmicks and gt5 will be a true sim racer.
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Heres what im thinking, whichever game gets a higher rating on GS, thats it, that system is officially better.

Im willing to put a tie on the line just for 360 owners to agree on this deal, thats how confident i am that GT5 will score higher then forza 3.

if GT5>forza3 then we agree the PS3 > 360 if forza3 >= GT5, 360 > PS3.

Im sure cows will have no problem with this theory because they are confident GT5 is the better game, hopefully the lemmings havent gave up on forza 3 though despite all the bad news they are spurting out about it.Killzowner

If they score the same, then sales will determine it. So GT5 > Forza 3

;)

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[QUOTE="Killzowner"]Heres what im thinking, whichever game gets a higher rating on GS, thats it, that system is officially better.

Im willing to put a tie on the line just for 360 owners to agree on this deal, thats how confident i am that GT5 will score higher then forza 3.

if GT5>forza3 then we agree the PS3 > 360 if forza3 >= GT5, 360 > PS3.

Im sure cows will have no problem with this theory because they are confident GT5 is the better game, hopefully the lemmings havent gave up on forza 3 though despite all the bad news they are spurting out about it.jakehouston88

If they score the same, then sales will determine it. So GT5 > Forza 3

;)

Since sales do matter in SW, you're right, and I'm buying it.
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#25 Rikusaki
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[QUOTE="Killzowner"]Heres what im thinking, whichever game gets a higher rating on GS, thats it, that system is officially better.

Im willing to put a tie on the line just for 360 owners to agree on this deal, thats how confident i am that GT5 will score higher then forza 3.

if GT5>forza3 then we agree the PS3 > 360 if forza3 >= GT5, 360 > PS3.

Im sure cows will have no problem with this theory because they are confident GT5 is the better game, hopefully the lemmings havent gave up on forza 3 though despite all the bad news they are spurting out about it.jakehouston88

If they score the same, then sales will determine it. So GT5 > Forza 3

;)

Well, of course GT will sell more. Prologue is one of the top selling games on the PS3 and it's less than a fraction of what GT5 will be.
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#26 Killzowner
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cmon guys seriously, lemmings are already hesitating to accept this now you guys wanna take the tie away from them?
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I'll probably get both, the g25 works on xbox right?robmonga2
Nope. Otherwise, I'd let PD pound sand and pick up FM3. MS' wheel is total garbage, and I'm not replacing all my Logitech/Playseats gear with Fanatec. I don't have a lot of faith in PD's ability to execute on their promises. My guess is damage will be dropped, and a sim without damage isn't a sim at all, as there's no disincentive to keep people from using you as a bumper.
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#28 jakehouston88
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[QUOTE="jakehouston88"]

[QUOTE="Killzowner"]Heres what im thinking, whichever game gets a higher rating on GS, thats it, that system is officially better.

Im willing to put a tie on the line just for 360 owners to agree on this deal, thats how confident i am that GT5 will score higher then forza 3.

if GT5>forza3 then we agree the PS3 > 360 if forza3 >= GT5, 360 > PS3.

Im sure cows will have no problem with this theory because they are confident GT5 is the better game, hopefully the lemmings havent gave up on forza 3 though despite all the bad news they are spurting out about it.Rikusaki

If they score the same, then sales will determine it. So GT5 > Forza 3

;)

Well, of course GT will sell more. Prologue is one of the top selling games on the PS3 and it's less than a fraction of what GT5 will be.

I know GT5 will get a better score and sell better...so GT5 > Forza 3

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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="jakehouston88"]

If they score the same, then sales will determine it. So GT5 > Forza 3

;)

jakehouston88

Well, of course GT will sell more. Prologue is one of the top selling games on the PS3 and it's less than a fraction of what GT5 will be.

I know GT5 will get a better score and sell better...so GT5 > Forza 3

Well if they count physics as a big part of it then FM3>GT5, I also somehow know FM3 wil score higher, kinda like you.

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#30 Shafftehr
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[QUOTE="SilverChimera"]

im not sure if you're being serious here or not. but one game will not determine the winner of the wars unless it is metal gear solid 4.

Killzowner

becuase lemmings wont accept the fact that ps3>360 even with MGS4, they always bring up forza series as "the racing sim". other genres are plentiful on both system, but with this one, the lemmings own terms should help them finally admit the ps3 is better. so i say we go with not only the series that they think sets standards, but on that is in a genre that only these 2 games really matter.

Funny, not Gamerankings, Metacritic, nor the gamers who actually go out and fork over money for a system accepted MGS4 as making the PS3 the superior console. That was pretty much just a few holdout game review sites that did that... Oh, and Cows.

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#31 Tobin09
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Your both wrong, They will both score equal for different reasons.

Forza for gameplay, online, UGC, customization, physics.

Gt for presentation, graphics, technical features, sheer quanity of content.

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#32 DeadMagazines
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cmon guys seriously, lemmings are already hesitating to accept this now you guys wanna take the tie away from them?Killzowner
No it's just no one but cows will take you seriously because of your name and obviously baiting / trolling.
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[QUOTE="robmonga2"]I'll probably get both, the g25 works on xbox right?lowe0
Nope. Otherwise, I'd let PD pound sand and pick up FM3. MS' wheel is total garbage, and I'm not replacing all my Logitech/Playseats gear with Fanatec. I don't have a lot of faith in PD's ability to execute on their promises. My guess is damage will be dropped, and a sim without damage isn't a sim at all, as there's no disincentive to keep people from using you as a bumper.

awwwwww man, forget forza then. GT5 all the way, I'm so stoked man...I should start building a pod and saving up for a wheel.
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="robmonga2"]I'll probably get both, the g25 works on xbox right?robmonga2
Nope. Otherwise, I'd let PD pound sand and pick up FM3. MS' wheel is total garbage, and I'm not replacing all my Logitech/Playseats gear with Fanatec. I don't have a lot of faith in PD's ability to execute on their promises. My guess is damage will be dropped, and a sim without damage isn't a sim at all, as there's no disincentive to keep people from using you as a bumper.

awwwwww man, forget forza then. GT5 all the way, I'm so stoked man...I should start building a pod and saving up for a wheel.

No, it allows all wheels now.

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#35 Tobin09
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Forza has that Fanatech wheel, which is better, (but more expensive) than the g25, H-shifter/clutch and all.

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Both generic games w/ better graphics than their generic predecessors... but anyone can say that about any game! :\
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#37 Tobin09
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Both generic games w/ better graphics than their generic predecessors... but anyone can say that about any game! :\cocolabouto
Yep both generic game that are constantly rated AAA, and have sold millions. Good job dude, you know what your talking about.
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#38 Wubba
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Personally, I think both games will get a 9.5. If it ends in a tie, I gotta give Turn10 the victory because the would have put out a 9.2 game in addition to a F3/GT5 tie in the same period of time. Either way, it takes more than one game to prove the superiority of a console.

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[QUOTE="robmonga2"]I'll probably get both, the g25 works on xbox right?lowe0
Nope. Otherwise, I'd let PD pound sand and pick up FM3. MS' wheel is total garbage, and I'm not replacing all my Logitech/Playseats gear with Fanatec. I don't have a lot of faith in PD's ability to execute on their promises. My guess is damage will be dropped, and a sim without damage isn't a sim at all, as there's no disincentive to keep people from using you as a bumper.

Garbage?...really?..

I mean the cost difference is $200 between the G25 and the 360 wheel...so there is going to be an inherent feel of materials when you are not driving.....But I can assure you that the LT/accuracy between the two is damn spot on...

What did you not like about the wheel?

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[QUOTE="Killzowner"]Heres what im thinking, whichever game gets a higher rating on GS, thats it, that system is officially better. Im willing to put a tie on the line just for 360 owners to agree on this deal, thats how confident i am that GT5 will score higher then forza 3. if GT5>forza3 then we agree the PS3 > 360 if forza3 >= GT5, 360 > PS3. Im sure cows will have no problem with this theory because they are confident GT5 is the better game, hopefully the lemmings havent gave up on forza 3 though despite all the bad news they are spurting out about it.

No one is going to care let alone remember your idea 4 years from now when GT5 finally gets a release date.
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*facepalm

Seriously, logic has left TC's brain.

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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="robmonga2"]I'll probably get both, the g25 works on xbox right?masiisam

Nope. Otherwise, I'd let PD pound sand and pick up FM3. MS' wheel is total garbage, and I'm not replacing all my Logitech/Playseats gear with Fanatec. I don't have a lot of faith in PD's ability to execute on their promises. My guess is damage will be dropped, and a sim without damage isn't a sim at all, as there's no disincentive to keep people from using you as a bumper.

Garbage?...really?..

I mean the cost difference is $200 between the G25 and the 360 wheel...so there is going to be an inherent feel of materials when you are not driving.....But I can assure you that the LT/accuracy between the two is damn spot on...

What did you not like about the wheel?

The pedals had no resistance whatsoever, and it doesn't feel like there's a lot of granularity in the throttle/brake response. The force feedback is decent, but the breakaway clamp is so wobbly that it soaks most of it up. The paddles started making scraping noises each time I'd shift; I had to open up the wheel and reseat the springs. And finally, after sending it away for the recall, the wheel MS sent me didn't even work (the buttons stopped working after an hour or so of use). I had to send it back again (it took two months to get MS to take it back), and the second wheel I got back won't center properly (it centers turned slightly left, which is annoying if you're trying to unwind for a straightaway). And that's a conclusion I reached before I had a G25 - I'm basing all that on comparison to my old Driving Force Pro.
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Heres what im thinking, whichever game gets a higher rating on GS, thats it, that system is officially better. Im willing to put a tie on the line just for 360 owners to agree on this deal, thats how confident i am that GT5 will score higher then forza 3. if GT5>forza3 then we agree the PS3 > 360 if forza3 >= GT5, 360 > PS3. Im sure cows will have no problem with this theory because they are confident GT5 is the better game, hopefully the lemmings havent gave up on forza 3 though despite all the bad news they are spurting out about it.Killzowner

Im not all into cars, dont see the reason to be... I could care less about either game. Whichever game is better, that just means the developer is better at making sim racers, it has nothing to do with the consoles :roll:

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[QUOTE="Killzowner"][QUOTE="Fizzman"]

why would anyone agree to that it makes zero sense, and only the most completely delusional fanboy would agree to that.

hmm, just curious, do you like forza mroe or GT? my guess is....LOL.

Just.Stop.Posting your OP is like saying, if america beats brazil in soccer than americans are smarter and better than people from brazil.. It's just stupid and makes no sense.
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#45 heretrix
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im not sure if you're being serious here or not. but one game will not determine the winner of the wars unless it is metal gear solid 4.

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As much as I loved MGS 4, your comment is just as bad as the TC's. No one game can determine anything.MGS 4 is an awesome game, but that one game does not dimish the 360's entire game library.

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#46 Malta_1980
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got a strong feeling both will either get a 9/10 or a maximum of 9.5... however both Forza3 & GT5 will get the same score on GS...

Anyways i'm just looking forward to both titles since am a huge fan of racing games :)

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#47 abuabed
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One game can't determine which system is better, and I'm just guessing that both will score AAA with one higher than the other by 0.5
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#48 -ScorpionKing
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yes it's true that ps3 is a graphic king... but ps 3 is'nt a sales king...just admit it that ps3 is in the last position...anyway in my opinion GT5 will be a little bit better than forza 3 in graphic because of ps3's technology

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#49 LookAnDrolL
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TC should buy some "Sense" its come with silly packages of "Common sense"
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#50 Tragic_Kingdom7
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Heres what im thinking, whichever game gets a higher rating on GS, thats it, that system is officially better. Im willing to put a tie on the line just for 360 owners to agree on this deal, thats how confident i am that GT5 will score higher then forza 3. if GT5>forza3 then we agree the PS3 > 360 if forza3 >= GT5, 360 > PS3. Im sure cows will have no problem with this theory because they are confident GT5 is the better game, hopefully the lemmings havent gave up on forza 3 though despite all the bad news they are spurting out about it.Killzowner

Wow. System Wars has really deteriorated lately.