Grand Theft Auto 4 - BS

I have to sign into Steam, then Rockstar Social Club, and then Games for Windows LIVE just to play multiplayer? Is this even necessary? BS proprietary software.

I have to sign into Steam, then Rockstar Social Club, and then Games for Windows LIVE just to play multiplayer? Is this even necessary? BS proprietary software.

CZVA

I just sign into PSN, but yeh I dont play it online anyways. Its more of a 1p game to me, still playing it, great game.

gta4 on pcs is notably one of the few multiplats that are better on consoles

gta4 on pcs is notably one of the few multiplats that are better on consoles

Zarkuna

Rockstar stick it to the pirates on GTA 4. The game is so bad on PC they don't even download it. :lol:

gta4 on pcs is notably one of the few multiplats that are better on consoles

Zarkuna

Totally disagree. Sure you need to jump through loops, but the PC version of GTA 4 is the first version of any GTA game where everything controls better, including vehicles.

And yes, I own GTA4 on PC and EOLC on my console. And there is no question what version is better.

And to TC, I haven't touched multiplayer, but the SP only need Rockstar Social Club to run. I bought it on Steam, but I don't even need to run Steam. Hell, I even skipped the Games For Windows sign up. Didn't need it.

Rockstar stick it to the pirates on GTA 4. The game is so bad on PC they don't even download it. :lol:

xhawk27

GTA4 has MP?

[QUOTE="xhawk27"]

Rockstar stick it to the pirates on GTA 4. The game is so bad on PC they don't even download it. :lol:

Stevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="xhawk27"]

Rockstar stick it to the pirates on GTA 4. The game is so bad on PC they don't even download it. :lol:

Stevo_the_gamer

I hear it's not very optimized though.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="xhawk27"]

Rockstar stick it to the pirates on GTA 4. The game is so bad on PC they don't even download it. :lol:

xhawk27

I hear it's not very optimized though.

Well, on my medium-low PC, it looks and runs better than both console versions.

So I think I might disagree.

I hear it's not very optimized though.

xhawk27

I thought they removed the need to log into Rockstar Social Club, and even if they didn't just set it to auto log in.

Buying it on Steam was your choice, and how Steam can be considered a negative i don't know.

All i have to do is log into Games for Windows live, takes 2 seconds.

[QUOTE="Zarkuna"]

gta4 on pcs is notably one of the few multiplats that are better on consoles

organic_machine

Totally disagree. Sure you need to jump through loops, but the PC version of GTA 4 is the first version of any GTA game where everything controls better, including vehicles.

And yes, I own GTA4 on PC and EOLC on my console. And there is no question what version is better.

And to TC, I haven't touched multiplayer, but the SP only need Rockstar Social Club to run. I bought it on Steam, but I don't even need to run Steam. Hell, I even skipped the Games For Windows sign up. Didn't need it.

Additionally, the latest patch kills the game's optimization. I used to run the game maxed @ 1680x1050 and get 60 FPS. After the latest patch I don't even get 25 FPS anymore, and it studders terribly.

GTA 4 on PC controls like ass. Worse implementation of mouse control I've ever dealt with in a game. KHAndAnime

How?

I thought they removed the need to log into Rockstar Social Club, and even if they didn't just set it to auto log in.

Buying it on Steam was your choice, and how Steam can be considered a negative i don't know.

All i have to do is log into Games for Windows live, takes 2 seconds.

Snagal123

GTA 4 on PC controls like ass. Worse implementation of mouse control I've ever dealt with in a game.

Additionally, the latest patch kills the game's optimization. I used to run the game maxed @ 1680x1050 and get 60 FPS. After the latest patch I don't even get 25 FPS anymore, and it studders terribly.

KHAndAnime

I can't disagree more, the keyboard controls for driving are very solid, i can take corners with ease flawless over and over, bikes are easy as well,the mouse only makes this better by looking before turning into corners, its far easier than a controller for looking around while driving imo. When your on foot there is no question a mouse is better because of the accuracy a mouse gives.

Every GTA game has always had solid m/kb controls, GTA4s are the best so far imo.

The only time i ever pick up the controller is for choppers, which don't feel right with the mouse, but thats all.

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]

GTA 4 on PC controls like ass. Worse implementation of mouse control I've ever dealt with in a game.

Additionally, the latest patch kills the game's optimization. I used to run the game maxed @ 1680x1050 and get 60 FPS. After the latest patch I don't even get 25 FPS anymore, and it studders terribly.

Snagal123

I can't disagree more, the keyboard controls for driving are very solid, i can take corners with ease flawless over and over, bikes are easy as well,the mouse only makes this better by looking before turning into corners, its far easier than acontroller for looking around while driving imo. When your on foot there is no question a mouse is better because of theaccuracy a mouse gives.

Every GTA game has always had solid m/kb controls, GTA4s are the best so far imo.

The only time i ever pick up the controller is for choppers, which don't feel right with the mouse, but thats all.

I agree totally. The driving is much better on the PC. And so is performing drive bys.

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]GTA 4 on PC controls like ass. Worse implementation of mouse control I've ever dealt with in a game. organic_machine

How?

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="xhawk27"]

Rockstar stick it to the pirates on GTA 4. The game is so bad on PC they don't even download it. :lol:

xhawk27

I hear it's not very optimized though.

It takes a monster PC to run it at max. But running it at the same settings as the console version is easy. With mods, GTA 4 looks incredible on the PC.

I would say it actually controls better on the PC as well, the fact that you dont need lock on is nice, the vehicals control well with a keyboard, only problem is the choopers, but its not a big deal.

[QUOTE="organic_machine"]

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]GTA 4 on PC controls like ass. Worse implementation of mouse control I've ever dealt with in a game. KHAndAnime

How?

Can't say i suffer from this, i would know if it was there. Sounds similar to what many had in Dead Space which i didn't have either. I'm on Win 7, 64bit. V-sync and mouse smoothing can cause this.

Aiming is just a breeze, i can pull headshots everytime while driving at speed. I'm sure you and many others may have issues, but many also don't.

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="organic_machine"]

How?

Snagal123

Can't say i suffer from this, i would know if it was there. Sounds similar to what many had in Dead Space which i didn't have either. I'm on Win 7, 64bit. V-sync and mouse smoothing can cause this.

Aiming is just a breeze, i can pull headshots everytime while driving at speed. I'm sure you and many others may have issues, but many also don't.

I have no V-Sync on and there's no ingame option for mouse smoothing.KHAndAnime

Don't know what else to say...Get a better mouse? :P

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"] I have no V-Sync on and there's no ingame option for mouse smoothing.Snagal123

Don't know what else to say...Get a better mouse? :P

[QUOTE="Snagal123"]

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"] I have no V-Sync on and there's no ingame option for mouse smoothing.KHAndAnime

Don't know what else to say...Get a better mouse? :P

But others don't have these issues, so i'm going to say it is your skill :D

Oh and Logitech suck, Razerall theway! :P

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="Snagal123"]

Don't know what else to say...Get a better mouse? :P

Snagal123

But others don't have these issues, so i'm going to say it is your skill :D

Oh and Logitech suck, Razerall theway! :P

I should say it's your skill - your skill isn't being limited by the bad controls since you were never good at aiming in the first place. But if you want to go at some CS:S or something, let's go. ;)KHAndAnime

Bad Company 2?

Actually, GTA4! :P

[QUOTE="Zarkuna"]

gta4 on pcs is notably one of the few multiplats that are better on consoles

organic_machine

Totally disagree. Sure you need to jump through loops, but the PC version of GTA 4 is the first version of any GTA game where everything controls better, including vehicles.

And yes, I own GTA4 on PC and EOLC on my console. And there is no question what version is better.

And to TC, I haven't touched multiplayer, but the SP only need Rockstar Social Club to run. I bought it on Steam, but I don't even need to run Steam. Hell, I even skipped the Games For Windows sign up. Didn't need it.

I have to sign into Steam, then Rockstar Social Club, and then Games for Windows LIVE just to play multiplayer? Is this even necessary? BS proprietary software.

CZVA

This myth about PC GTA IV being the prime example of a terrible port needs to die off. First of all, it looks and runs better than its console counterpart on nearly every somewhat modern machine out there (that is, since even the lower settings of the PC version are higher than those on consoles). At 640p (well, to be fair, 720p for the Xbox 360) and some severe stuttering at that, it's not exactly a gruelling feat to best the performance of either console.

I'm running the game on a Phenom II X4 940 coupled with a GeForce GTX 280 (soon-to-be two years old GPU) at much higher settings, and at a highly desirable framerate, than what the 360/PS3 would be able to achieve combined. I was frankly quite shocked to see how atrocious the Xbox 360 version of EFLC looked in comparison, since when I first played GTA IV, shortly after the release of the console versions, it was a great looking game.

One of the problems at hand is most likely that many PC gamers are more or less used to a framerate of no lower than 30-40 FPS on a minimum. Since GTA IV was one of the first, at that time, so called 'horrible' ports released for the PC, it was probably regarded as such due to the fact that for a PC game, it generally performed bad, when in reality it wasn't really worse than the console iterations.

On a side note, or, rather on topic, RGSC is not required as of the latest patch. It's automatically uninstalled right after applying the 1.0.6.0 patch.

I have to sign into Steam, then Rockstar Social Club, and then Games for Windows LIVE just to play multiplayer? Is this even necessary? BS proprietary software.

CZVA

Are you trolling? I am asking you because nothing is correct of what you said and you are trying to get attention.
You don't have to sign into Steam because Steam starts when you start your PC. Also Rockstar Social Club and Windows LIVE are sign automatic. The only thing that you have to do is to double-click the game icon and after a few seconds you are in the game. So fast and simple...

[QUOTE="CZVA"]

I have to sign into Steam, then Rockstar Social Club, and then Games for Windows LIVE just to play multiplayer? Is this even necessary? BS proprietary software.

MK-Professor

Are you trolling? I am asking you because nothing is correct of what you said and you are trying to get attention.
You don't have to sign into Steam because Steam starts when you start your PC. Also Rockstar Social Club and Windows LIVE are sign automatic. The only thing that you have to do is to double-click the game icon and after a few seconds you are in the game. So fast and simple...

The issue is... he needs 3 seperate accounts to play this game. I got Dirt2 free with my videocard (steam download) and I was pissed to find out that I had to make a LIVE for windows account.

...I ended up not playing the game at all.

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[QUOTE="CZVA"]

I have to sign into Steam, then Rockstar Social Club, and then Games for Windows LIVE just to play multiplayer? Is this even necessary? BS proprietary software.

AntiType

Are you trolling? I am asking you because nothing is correct of what you said and you are trying to get attention.
You don't have to sign into Steam because Steam starts when you start your PC. Also Rockstar Social Club and Windows LIVE are sign automatic. The only thing that you have to do is to double-click the game icon and after a few seconds you are in the game. So fast and simple...

The issue is... he needs 3 seperate accounts to play this game. I got Dirt2 free with my videocard (steam download) and I was pissed to find out that I had to make a LIVE for windows account.

...I ended up not playing the game at all.

everything sign automatic... the same thing you can say for the xbox that you need to create a LIVE account the first time. The same is with the windows LIVE, but the only differences is that you don't need to pay $50 per year...

gta4 on pcs is notably one of the few multiplats that are better on consoles

Zarkuna

PC version

• Mods
• option to use k/b or 360-controller or whatever controller you like.
• Fast loading
• video editor
• Don't require to use the dvd in order to play the game just double-click
• Better graphics
• 1920x1200
• fps 45-70fps
• high textures
• large view distance
• more traffic(casr, pedestrians)
• better shadows
• other effect onhigh etc.

Consoles version

• no Mods
• slow loading
• require to use the dvd in order to play the game
• Looks unbelievable bleary...
• 1280x720 – 1152x640(ps3)
• low fps 15-25fps
• low textures
• low view distance
• low traffic(cars, pedestrians)
• poor shadows
• other effect on low etc.

now you see how superior is the pc version

[QUOTE="organic_machine"]

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]GTA 4 on PC controls like ass. Worse implementation of mouse control I've ever dealt with in a game. KHAndAnime

How?

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="organic_machine"]

How?

DragonfireXZ95