Graphical shortcomings - What bothers you the most?

Bad lighting.

Bad shadows.

Bad textures.

Teh Jaggies (this one for me).

Lack of bump mapping.

Lack of normal mapping.

Lack of bloom.

Abundance of bloom.

Lousy particle effects.

Lousy or static environments.

Blocky environments or characters.

Weak animations.

Lack of detail.

Simply lousy art.

Or something else?

I bring this up because I recently downloaded the Overlord demo, and I only got it to run smoothly by turning off normal mapping and soil cover (grass, pebbles, etc). Then I turned up AA to 8x, and it looked fantastic while running very smoothly. I couldn't stand the jags. What are your graphical peeves?

Abundance of bloom.

Overthrow

This one for me

I've noticed in so many games that it looks like aink drawing scanned in for all kinds of models etc... It is very distracting. There is an uneveness somewhere or the other whereas a hand drawn game like Street Fighter was so tight and focused.

Another gripe is not enough particle effects or not enough details.

[QUOTE="Overthrow"]

Abundance of bloom.

milsvaard

This one for me

A culmination of the first four. I'm sitting here playing through the "Underground Maze" part of SSBM's Adventure Mode, and I can't help but think this game could look incredible with some of the more detailed effects we take for granted. Nothing too fancy, just a little improvement needed here and there.

lousy art. a lot of games outside of japan seem to focus too much on making a game look technically good instead of artisically good. its nice and all, but after a while it becomes boring.Kook18

Hardly, I've seen plenty of western Games recently that have wowed me with better artistic presentations than a lot of Japanese games.

What bothers me most is when a dev doesn't try. When they make a bland area and fail to decorate it or give it details. When basically not their exicution is bad but hwne their initial conespt is bad.kittykatz5k

[QUOTE="kittykatz5k"]What bothers me most is when a dev doesn't try. When they make a bland area and fail to decorate it or give it details. When basically not their exicution is bad but hwne their initial conespt is bad.Vandalvideo

I don't care waht they're getting paid, they should be ableto make a good ammount of detail in an area. rather than leaving square rooms as square rooms

Framerate, if there's one thing I just -can't- stand, it's an unstable framerate. I can live with 20 fps, as long as it stays that way constantly... A game could be 60 fps, but if it drops down noticeably below that constantly, than it just really disturbs the experience.

I think that's what developers should focus on, stable framerate, yes you might have to give up some of that eyecandy, but dammit its worth it, just look at GT4, or Forza 2, or Ninja Gaiden.... can you imagine those games without a stable framerate? Can you imagine how hard it would become if the framerate dropped all the time and you'd miss the apex or the righ timing for a block? EXACTLY my point.

framerate, definitely.

I can't STAND having the framerate slow down in Halo:CE when I play it on the 360... it's SO ANNOYING.

[QUOTE="Kook18"]lousy art. a lot of games outside of japan seem to focus too much on making a game look technically good instead of artisically good. its nice and all, but after a while it becomes boring.Donkey_Puncher

Hardly, I've seen plenty of western Games recently that have wowed me with better artistic presentations than a lot of Japanese games.

The only time I will feel negative about graphics are when:

1. There was obvious neglect to any thought about the visuals.

2. The game is hindered by its look.

3. When a developer promises higher graphics than it actually outputs.

Bad lighting.

Bad shadows.

Bad textures.

Teh Jaggies (this one for me).

Lack of bump mapping.

Lack of normal mapping.

Lack of bloom.

Abundance of bloom.

Lousy particle effects.

Lousy or static environments.

Blocky environments or characters.

Weak animations.

Lack of detail.

Simply lousy art.

Or something else?

I bring this up because I recently downloaded the Overlord demo, and I only got it to run smoothly by turning off normal mapping and soil cover (grass, pebbles, etc). Then I turned up AA to 8x, and it looked fantastic while running very smoothly. I couldn't stand the jags. What are your graphical peeves?

Overthrow

Lack of decent art direction. I mean, really, is it that hard to make a game that isn't rendered in shades of feces?

Lame animations and bloom.

Lame animation because they stick out like a sore thumb and are, well, lame.

Bloom because its become such a cliche, and because it visually annoys the crap out of me. Rainbow Six: Vegas was like Hell for my eyes.

Lack of decent anti-aliasing. Jaggies all over the place can make a game look crap in many areas. Thankfully it doesn't look like it will be an issue this generation. Even Resistance on the PS3 and Sonic on the Wii have good anti-aliasing.

^^^^ Absolutely, that was another thing that bothered me about last generation.

Bad lighting.

Bad shadows.

Bad textures.

Teh Jaggies (this one for me).

Lack of bump mapping.

Lack of normal mapping.

Lack of bloom.

Abundance of bloom.

Lousy particle effects.

Lousy or static environments.

Blocky environments or characters.

Weak animations.

Lack of detail.

Simply lousy art.

Or something else?

I bring this up because I recently downloaded the Overlord demo, and I only got it to run smoothly by turning off normal mapping and soil cover (grass, pebbles, etc). Then I turned up AA to 8x, and it looked fantastic while running very smoothly. I couldn't stand the jags. What are your graphical peeves?

Overthrow

HDR Lighting when used to make everything intensely brown or orange.......

Low Detail, Low Res Textures.

SET Camera Angles.

DARK GAMES THAT DON'T HAVE A INTERNAL CONTRAST AND BRIGHTNESS SETTING!!! IN THE OPTIONS MENUS!!!!!! WTF!!!

FOLKLORE!!!! WTF

[QUOTE="Overthrow"]

Bad lighting.

Bad shadows.

Bad textures.

Teh Jaggies (this one for me).

Lack of bump mapping.

Lack of normal mapping.

Lack of bloom.

Abundance of bloom.

Lousy particle effects.

Lousy or static environments.

Blocky environments or characters.

Weak animations.

Lack of detail.

Simply lousy art.

Or something else?

I bring this up because I recently downloaded the Overlord demo, and I only got it to run smoothly by turning off normal mapping and soil cover (grass, pebbles, etc). Then I turned up AA to 8x, and it looked fantastic while running very smoothly. I couldn't stand the jags. What are your graphical peeves?

SpecialForcesOp

HDR Lighting when used to make everything intensely brown or orange.......

Low Detail, Low Res Textures.

SET Camera Angles.

DARK GAMES THAT DON'T HAVE A INTERNAL CONTRAST AND BRIGHTNESS SETTING!!! IN THE OPTIONS MENUS!!!!!! WTF!!!

FOLKLORE!!!! WTF

[QUOTE="SpecialForcesOp"][QUOTE="Overthrow"]

Bad lighting.

Bad shadows.

Bad textures.

Teh Jaggies (this one for me).

Lack of bump mapping.

Lack of normal mapping.

Lack of bloom.

Abundance of bloom.

Lousy particle effects.

Lousy or static environments.

Blocky environments or characters.

Weak animations.

Lack of detail.

Simply lousy art.

Or something else?

I bring this up because I recently downloaded the Overlord demo, and I only got it to run smoothly by turning off normal mapping and soil cover (grass, pebbles, etc). Then I turned up AA to 8x, and it looked fantastic while running very smoothly. I couldn't stand the jags. What are your graphical peeves?

Ibacai

HDR Lighting when used to make everything intensely brown or orange.......

Low Detail, Low Res Textures.

SET Camera Angles.

DARK GAMES THAT DON'T HAVE A INTERNAL CONTRAST AND BRIGHTNESS SETTING!!! IN THE OPTIONS MENUS!!!!!! WTF!!!

FOLKLORE!!!! WTF

It's too **** dark sometimes. and the colors are sometimes too much.

Weak animations.

Lack of detail.

Simply lousy art.

Overthrow

Probably these.